[kj] First amongt equals

Juliet Pleming pricepleming at tiscali.co.uk
Mon Apr 25 11:27:46 EDT 2005


I often feel like that living in this society too. The basic stuff is
just a lot more complicated.
 
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of ade
Sent: 25 April 2005 15:07
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: RE: [kj] First amongt equals
 
Sometimes all the free-time is taken-up by the basic stuff like finding
food, so some
people just don't have time to think of anything beyond the daily sh!t.
 
ade.
 
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc
Sent: 25 April 2005 14:58
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'; Alex Smith
Subject: RE: [kj] First amongt equals
>A thousand years ago ,living in mud huts was common the world 
>over,some people have progressed out of them and some havent. 
>Call it what you like,But you cant disagree with the facts. 
The fact that some societies have decided that living in mud huts (or
caves etc) isn't what they want does not necessarily denote progression,
rather it shows a different set of priorities . . . 
To suggest that a society in Africa (or wherever) is less advanced
because they haven't decided to live by your ideals smacks of the
Victorian missionary ethos ("they're not Christian and therefore need
pulling into the 19th century whether they want it or not") 
Who decides what is advanced and what is the best way to live? 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From:   peter.west410 [SMTP:peter.west410 at ntlworld.com] 
Sent:   Monday, April 25, 2005 2:45 PM 
To:     Alex Smith; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Subject:        Re: [kj] First amongt equals 
 
Once again Alex avoids the issue by labelling it: A wind-up,stupid,
immature 
or  resorts to a personal slur.Whilst I know that he doesnt address the 
points because he knows Im right and has no answer with a valid logical 
reply. 
      A thousand years ago ,living in mud huts was common the world 
over,some people have progressed out of them and some havent. 
    Call it what you like,But you cant disagree with the facts. 
             PW 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net> 
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>; <joker at Z6.com>; "A list about all things Killing

Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net> 
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 2:13 PM 
Subject: Re: [kj] First amongt equals 
 
> 
> 
> Once again, another stupid debate devolves into an idiotic wind-up. 
> 
> 
> Alex in NYC 
> 
> 



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