[kj] happy birthday ADOLF

[iPat]

not really know. The light switch analogy was precise and matter of
fact.
********Well that asks more questions than it answers:
Were the lights voice activated?
Were the lights on continuously?
Why was nt there any light switches?
Did they have access to any other light switches? ect ect ******


now you are being ridiculous for the sake of it
 
*******But facts are facts********

Clearly so but maybe not truths. 
 

or is it about control?

********Control & power over people is all part of the same package*********

Yes, but this contradicts many of your other statements. You say
people have free choice yet acknowledge the above statement

 ******I dont know if it was spontaneous or state sponsored,But its safe to
say that if the authorities wanted to stop it ,they would********

Which is the same in this country

 But subsequent generations of children will be learning selective history

*******Its a common occurrence ,its the same the world over*******

but you took umbrage at this very point! *******But facts are
facts******** you say and now you seem to accept that this is not the
case, that the amount of information clearly is controlled by those
with a vested interest and so in that argument there is a restriction
and therefore not a freedom of choice


*********Any means necessary was a slogan for both sides in the
dispute**********

now that's bollocks.

 
********I would say that predecessors respected natural resources more
,Because they came into contact with them more.I must of been about 12 years
old before I saw a real cow**********

and so they were aware of the power of the force of nature more than
urbanites today. Glad you now accept that point. I was just down in
Wales where the inquiry just started concerning the kids who got
washed away in a flash flood, encouraged into the water by a youth
worker who had no respect for the power of water. After the new years
Tsunami do you think people have a greater respect for the power of
nature? Or was it just entertainment value for a week or so on the
telly?
-- 
iPat
live for today, live for tomorrow
"Truth is a pathless land. Man cannot come to it through any
organisation, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual,
nor through any philosophic knowledge or psychological technique. He
has to find it through the mirror of relationship, through the
understanding of the contents of his own mind, through observation and
not through intellectual analysis or introspective dissection..."