[kj] Hitler...Youth...the pope?

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Seems to me that most religions are against nature...

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of melinda grant
Sent: 20 April 2005 19:02
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Hitler...Youth...the pope?


jim harper.......thanx 4 that.....there is nothing like dragging up the
truth,there r so many hypocrites in that organisation,makes my skin
crawl........btw,listening to radio 4 this morn(a very down to earth,
almost boring  station,every now and again there is a good topic aired)
there was a dabate about wether or not the priests should be aloud to give
up the oath of celabacy,reason=most of them cannot hak it,and it would make
4 an all around pleasant and agreeable priest on society if this age old
tradition was dropped,after all,these guys r still in the physical
world/needs be/its only natural,any way,what about the ritual that they all
supposadibly go through if they ever have an unclean thought
or engage in a so called unlean action like making love ---they flog

them selfs,to beat the thought action out of them selfs,well that sounds
kinkyer than engaging in a bit of old fashioned///lov making..


mel london  uk
>From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
><gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Hitler...Youth...the pope?
>Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:40:38 +0100 (BST)
>
>http://web.archive.org/web/20020607141945/http://abcnews.go.com/sections/20
20/DailyNews/2020_Vatican_coverup_020426.html
>
>Sorry the URL is so long. It's an article from 2002, accusing Ratzinger of
>covering up child abuse cases involving very high-ranking priests. There's
>plenty more about Father Maciel (a Mexican priest accused many times) if
>you want to go dig it up, but it seems fairly conclusive that Ratzinger
>preferred not to investigate the charges.
>
>Jim Harper.
>
>melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>jim--if it is part of the comforsation,then it is relavant to ...dig up a
>few points from this new popes past....bak traking on events, is a better
>way 4 all to get a full view of the whole event, here in the present--any
>way,by what u said,it seems that the new pope is up to his neck in it....
>
>mel london uk
>
> >From: Jim Harper
> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Hitler...Youth...the pope?
> >Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:53:17 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >A valid point. Besides, the man has recent (and serious) crimes upon his
> >head: there's no need to dig up events from that long ago.
> >
> >Jim Harper.
> >
> >Dave Noonan wrote:
> >Mel - Dave2 has beaten me to it - joining the Hitler Youth was compulsory
> >for a child of the Pope's age and I can only imagine how severe the
> >consequences may have been for those who did not participate. We can sit
> >cosy with the benefit of hindsight and berate someone for making those
> >choices without ourselves having to face the consequences, all I have
>read
> >states he was not a particularly willing participant so I am not going to
> >beat him with that particular stick – it is a smokescreen over the real
> >issues of his view on the world today.
> >
> >Dave
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