[kj] SCARIEST record...

Fri Apr 15 14:15:23 EDT 2005

Dear Jane 

I don't know - you and Paula....all these running injuries! But
seriously, I'm sorry to hear that. It must be so disappointing after all
the build-up, to feel so incapacitated. I'm not in your league. I have
tried running. At my peak last year goaded on by Jason, did 13 miles
across Welsh mountains but then I hurt the ball of my foot running on
uneven ground. Took months to heal. I tend to cycle, swim and walk now.

Have you read Paula's book? She has had quite a lot of injuries that she
has overcome. Quite interesting.

Good luck!

Juliet

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Shadforth, Jane SUKOP-OFI/3521
Sent: 15 April 2005 14:42
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: RE: [kj] SCARIEST record...

Hi Juliet,

Adductor still not completely healed, so training is very minimal, as I
can't do anything that involves using my left leg. I can just about get
away with swimming if I don't kick at all, and am careful on turns. I
can also use an arm-cycle to raise the heartrate a little, but it's very
boring. I'm hopeful I'll be able to cycle again in the next week or so,
and run soon after that, but it's difficult to know.

So - no, I didn't do Paris - we went anyway to watch the race, meet up
with friends, and do a bit of sight-seeing, but even that was limited,
as I couldn't walk as much as I'd like to have.

My fitness is disintegrating rapidly, and I'm finding it all very
frustrating being so incapacitated. Windsor Triathlon is only 9 weeks
away, so if I don't get training for that soon, I'm probably going to
have to switch from Olympic to Sprint distance, (hopefully not pull out
completely), and my main goal of the year, (to be fit enough to do a
half ironman triathlon, the Vitruvian, in September), is looking more &
more challenging.

Feeling sorry for myself, but I keep reminding myself that there's a lot
of people with a lot worse problems out there, which kinda puts it into
perspective.

Oh well - lets hope I'm fit enough to jig a little next time KJ play???

Jane

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Juliet Pleming
Sent: 15 April 2005 15:21
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: RE: [kj] SCARIEST record...

How's the training going? Has your aductor(?)healed yet? Did you do
Paris?

Juliet

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of Shadforth, Jane SUKOP-OFI/3521
Sent: 15 April 2005 10:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: RE: [kj] SCARIEST record...

I've briefly met a couple of them at a wedding reception in Nottingham,
and also at the odd gig in Rock City. I'm terrible with names, so
couldn't tell you which ones, (apart from not Dani), but they seemed
perfectly affable gents as far as I could make out... 

Jane

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Juliet Pleming
Sent: 15 April 2005 11:35
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: RE: [kj] SCARIEST record...

After emerging from my mumsy frame of mind I sort of realised the tongue
in cheekiness of it all. Someone told me that he had seen a documentary
about Cradle of Filth. The documentary was really about a young fan of
theirs who started to hang around backstage with them, I think. Anyway
the fan's mum was very worried about the influence of all this horrible
stuff on her son. So she went along and met the band and I think she
ended up touring with them - looking after them. Doing their washing,
cooking tea, that sort of thing. And after all that she thought they
were quite nice boys really.

Juliet 

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: 14 April 2005 16:16
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] SCARIEST record...

Aren't they DELIBERATELY sort've taking the piss, though, by being so 
ridiculously over the top?

Alex in NYC

On Thursday, April 14, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Christof hamille wrote:

> The only thing scary about them is that their following is as large as

> it is.  Their counter part Dimmu Borgur (sp), who my friend calls Demi

> Moore is absolutely hillarious.  HAve you seen them?  Or their videos.

>  I cannot remeber the last time I laughed that hard.  If my child came

> home listening to that I would probably rest easier knowing that 
> everything will be okay and that it is a phase.  It is hard to stay 
> "true" to black/death metal.
>
> Chris
>
>> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] SCARIEST record...
>> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:07:43 -0400
>>
>> Cradle of Filth are too damn silly to be scary.
>>
>> Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2005, at 04:12 AM, Juliet Pleming wrote:
>>
>>> The one by John Cale/Velvet Underground comes to mind. Where the guy
>>> posts himself to someone in a big box. I found that very creepy.
>>>
>>> I find some modern music scary. I found Eminem very scary the first 
>>> time
>>> I listened to him. I listened to him on a tape that belonged to my 
>>> then
>>> 12 year old son. I find the gangsta rap stuff quite disturbing.
>>>
>>> The other son listens to Cradle of Filth which I found scary too.
>>>
>>> I am now used to it. I remember when I bought 'Stations of the 
>>> Crass'.
>>> My mother found it and wept. She was really scared. I couldn't
>>> understand the fuss and bother at the time. But then neither could I
>>> understand why she was upset about me experimenting with drugs.
>>>
>>> Juliet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 
>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>> On Behalf Of Leigh Newton
>>> Sent: 14 April 2005 07:50
>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] SCARIEST record...
>>>
>>> That's funny, i was gonna say Plague Mass as well.
>>>
>>> Elegy by John Zorn is pretty disturbing in places as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Dogma by Asterisk is pretty scary in it's piercing
>>> relentlessness. Very fucking heavy.
>>>
>>> Of course, nothing can top how scared i got after
>>> hearing Reign in Blood by Slayer for the first time.
>>> All of 14 years old. i thought they were dead serious.
>>> Took me awhile to put the tape back in and listen
>>> beyond the first half of Angel Of Death.
>>>
>>> Leigh
>>>
>>> --- Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hahahahaha....I hadn't read this before I submitted
>>>> my selection
>>>> (PLAGUE MASS by DG) which is like walking through a
>>>> fuckin' body
>>>> part-littered mine field.
>>>>
>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 13, 2005, at 05:05 AM,
>>>> fatpotanga wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Diamanda Galas – The Divine Punishment (or
>>>> anything by William
>>>>> Shatner.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Funnily a mate & I enough I was discussing D.G.
>>>> yesterday after I
>>>>> bumped into an old friend of ours called Mike at
>>>> the weekend.
>>>>> My mate bought The Divine Punishment in 86 (we
>>>> were 16) and lent it to
>>>>> Mike saying it’d shit him up.
>>>>> He didn’t believe us so took it home for a listen.
>>>>> Now Mike had the whole of his parents attic as his
>>>> bedroom and being a
>>>>> man played it at midnight to prove a point.
>>>>> He got so scared he hid the record under a heavy
>>>> box, unplugged the
>>>>> stereo, put the clip on the needle arm and
>>>> actually removed and hid
>>>>> the needle cartridge itself so it wouldn’t play
>>>> itself in the night.
>>>>> Oh how we took the piss....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13/4/05 3:31 am, "Bill Meissner" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>    So what IS the scariest record of all time???
>>>>>
>>>>>
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