[kj] Jaz would nt appreciate this article

Tue Apr 5 14:47:09 EDT 2005

First, it is true that people are working harder, and longer hours (esp. in the US). And while more wealth overall is being created, there are larger %'s of people of people each year w/o basic services and needs being met worldwide. How is this seeming contradiction possible? Because the wealth is not "for everyone to share". It is based on what can be SOLD. So while the middle class in Europe and US can buy more cell phones, dvds, etc., the majority can buy less and less. And the more that is produced, the less, percentage wise, gets sold, so the industrialists have to cut back on pay and hours even more, making the cycle deepen. That's economics for ya! A little more complicated that what the free-market people talk about, but true.  

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From: peter.west410 <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
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Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz would nt appreciate this article

What you fail to understand is basic principles of economics.Yes the rich
are getting richer,But that doesnt mean that the poor are getting poorer.
  MORE WEALTH IS BEING CREATED.
Do you understand that people are working and producing more wealth for
everyone to share.
     I understand that there are poor  people in Mexico.But answer this
honestly.
  Generally:Was the population of Mexico poorer when you were growing up?Is
the poor  population dwindling?
    I suspect that the proportion of people without the basic needs is alot
less than in the past
           PW

How many poor people do you know wearing new shoes, driving a car and using
their cell phone?

The answer is easy.... you are not part of the poor. You're a mid-class guy.

At the end I don't know if the poor are getting poorer, but what is
absolutely true is that the rich are getting richer.

Here in Mexico we have Carlos Slim who's the 4th richer guy in the world (if
not exactly he's always into the top 10). He's getting richer every single
day, and against many people could think he's not a complete bastard, just a
little bit (at least he has made some things to restore antique zones of
cities, parks, etc.).
In contrast we have about 15/20% of population comformed by very poor
people, I mean POOR PEOPLE without any basic services (water, electricity,
etc).

mis dos pesos

Javier
mexicocity

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Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz would nt appreciate this article
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:41:06 +0100

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> "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer"
>
> How many times have you heard that?
> > From my observations this is completely untrue,The population is
> considerably more wealthier than a generation ago.People have never had so
> much disposable income.Nowadays youngsters all wear labels,got mobiles and
> as most are overweight,they must be getting ample food.Televisions,VCRs,
> phones and cars are the norm,Before they were luxury items.I dont know
about
> anyone else,But I used to get new shoes when the ones I had got a whole
> in,Not when a new design came out.And the only time one would get new
> clothes is when the old ones fell apart.I dont see that happening today.
>     Can anyone honestly say they this generation is worse off then
previous
> ones?
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