[kj] OT: Hypocrisy

[Graham Brown]

I'm wondering whether the bands have much say in the matter or whether the label or publisher can do what they like with a piece of music.  

I could be wrong...




-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of peter.west410
Sent: 22 November 2004 14:19
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Hypocrisy


"Many have refused to be associated with sky".

    For what reason do "many"people refuse too be associated with Sky.And if
you are against it ,Then I hope you don't watch any of the programmes.
    The only difference between U2 and the KJ advertising campaigns is the
scale and amount of money involved.U2 song was used in a commercial so was
KJs ,U2s faces were used KJs were nt.The more money the advertisers pay the
more the band do.KJ were nt paid much.I suppose U2 use ipods,So why should
nt they advertise it,If I remember correctly the KJ song was used to
advertise a Sky programme(snow-boarding I think)



----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Davies" <Patrick.Davies at subsea7.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Hypocrisy


I see a difference:

1 making a piece of music and someone buying it in order to use it as
part of their promotion

2 actually being part of the promotion so that you are trying to
identify with the product

is there a difference?

For me yes. In this case U2 are making a statement that they are the
product are intrinsically linked as one. The iPod has been revolutionary
and U2 are jumping on it for street credibility and iPod are happy to
use that to capture that market. My sons mates are queuing up to get
their mini ipods filled with tunes as their parents have given them
without understanding whats involved

Many have refused to be associated with sky.

ePat

-----Original Message-----
From: peter.west410 [mailto:peter.west410 at ntlworld.com]
Sent: 22 November 2004 13:46
To: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Hypocrisy

"iPod commercial??"

Let's not forget that KJ sold some of their songs to the same
channel(Sky
Sports)I ve heard "Whiteout" and one from the last album.The only
difference
is that U2 got a load of money and  the advertising was high -profile,KJ
only got a pittance and the adverts were low-profile.
   But in the terms of selling themselves ,There was no difference.Just
the
amount of money they received was different
          PW


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