[kj] OT: Pirating of new U2 release

[ade]

Fair comment - I used to have an agenda that would stop me listening to
certain bands, etc. Then I got into Throbbing Gristle & bit by bit, all that
rubish went out the window - it did nothing more than hold me back.

If you like it, then it's good (for you) !!!

IMO Achtung Baby is a sh!t-hot album & opened a lot of mainstream eyes to
what could be done post rave/madchester, ie, the injection of groove into
popular mainstream.

You know, why is it a problem that they have music business funding?
Wouldn't it be good if KJ had anything like U2's budget? I'd like to see
that & see how well it could be put to work.


ade666

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat
Sent: 09 November 2004 14:41
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Pirating of new U2 release


had to look up the discography on that one. Achtung Baby was 91, which
was 10 years after i had stopped listening to them. The scene here was
killing joke, pTv through to ToH/SoD. Bands like the redskins etc were
not to be found on the middle class student jukeboxes and the nation
was in conflict with Thatcherwith the miners strike breaking the back
of poular uprising.

while the likes of U2 with their music industry funding went to fill
rock stadiums, there was a consious decision to go more to squat gigs
or free raves in fields. Achtung Baby was missed thanks to Spiral
Tribe (i have a youth remix somewhere), <<tune in turn on drop in>>
the only use for the joshua tree was to burn it on the pyre so
everyone could dance around it! ; ))

im only kidding alex, we all have our own journies. Its not a competition.


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:54:54 -0500, Alexander Smith
<vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I think U2 stopped being "relevant" (whatever that means) after ACHTUNG
> BABY (an at-the-time refreshing image overhaul they've still not
> recovered from). Apart from the odd track here and there, it strikes me
> that they've long since stopped making music that "mattered". That
> said, I've always liked them despite their elephantine pretension
> (although since when is humility a staple of great music? I ask you --
> are Killing Joke humble? No, and nor should they be!) As the kids here
> in the States say, U2 have "jumped the shark", and are now as old, out
> of it and fuddy-duddy as Emerson Lake & Palmer were in 1977.
>
> REM, as far as I'm concerned, probably should have called it quits
> after CHRONIC TOWN, but to continue since Billy Berry's departure earns
> them a death warrant, I'd say. And Michael Stipe is nine-times as much
> of a jackass as Bono can  be.
>
> Alex in NYC
>

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