[kj] Hypo-pathetically speaking

Mon Nov 1 17:21:32 EST 2004

Ok, but why does the US govt. feel the need to rebuild Iraq? It didn't
need rebuilding before they went in. Why is it their place to inflict
'democracy' on another people with a massively different culture?

I'd agree though, that the US govt. should throw some constructively
spent money at Afghanistan - not because of the most recent campaign,
but because they hijacked & then used the place as the battleground
for *their* Soviet campaign. Since then it seems that little has happened
in terms of putting that damage right - 4kin burnt-out Soviet tanks
still knocking about all over the gaff! "Yeah, thanks for fighting a
bit of our Cold War for us - see ya!"

ade666

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of peter.west410
Sent: 01 November 2004 19:07
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Hypo-pathetically speaking

I would say that Osama wants George  W  out.
     At the moment America is trying to rebuild Iraq &Afghanistan(will
follow).Once Democracy, The Army and Police are in place then Al -Queda will
have difficulty operating in Iraq(In the future).That is the reason the new
security forces are under constant attack,That is why many westerners have
been kidnapped,To try to make Western companies abandon the re-building
process,An thus leaving Al-Queda a chance to regain the country.
   If a new regime took over in USA then they may withdraw ,or at least not
be so hard-line.
    I don't think that there will be an attack on America before the
Elections,Because if something was planned ,Then Bin-Laden would nt of
released the video .Maybe he does nt have the resources to attack,So he's
trying to scare the electorate into voting Bush out.
     I know the Spanish election result had some other factors,But if the
train-bombings never took place then the right -wing government would have
been elected.

            PW

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From: "Alexandra Tolksdorf" <alexandra.tolksdorf at web.de>
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:33 PM
Subject: AW: [kj] Hypo-pathetically speaking

Of course bin Laden wants George W. to stay in the White House as he has
had a good time with him so far. That's why they broadcast the video
now, a few days before the vote. People get scared and think W. will
"keep them safe". "Better not risk anything by voting for the new guy."
To me it's the product of years of dumbing people down by making a good
education too expensive for the majority, and constant instant access to
reality-denying mind-numbing TV programmes an easy alternative to real
life.

Alexandra.(Hamburger.)

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Im Auftrag von Rob
Gesendet: Montag, 1. November 2004 17:30
An: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Betreff: RE: [kj] Hypo-pathetically speaking

although the Bin Laden broadcast has sent voters sprinting to the Bush
camp no? From all of Bin laden's attempt to promote himself as an uber
politician, I'm sure he'd rather have Bush in there as it feeds his
hunger for a bloody war..........

horbag
(hoping this site returns to normal after the frenzy over the past week
or so)
-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of first fossil
Sent: 01 November 2004 12:43
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Hypo-pathetically speaking
Good question, but you can't compare the two places and you can't say
for sure what effect an attack can have.

In the Spanish elections I don't think many people switched sides
because of the bombs. The idea is that the attack woke up a huge mass of
people who normally wouldn't have given a shit and they went out to vote
Socialist. Also the pro-Bush right-wing govt stabbed themselves in the
foot by going into propaganda overload trying to blame ETA, the Basque
separatist group - people smelt a rat and gave the govt a slap.

As Alex says, in USA  I'm sure that the Republicans have prepared a much
better thought out plan of action should anything diabolical happen.

foss.

"peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
After seeing the latest Bin-laden video,Where he threatens America.
Do Americans think there will be another attack before the
elections,Because there was an attack on Madrid before the Spanish
elections,Which swayed the elections.The right-wing party were heading
for
victory,The attack happened and the Left got in.
In America they say the vote could go either way,So if an attack on
America happened,It might just sway it for the left.
So Yankee-boys.If an attack happened on American soil(say 1000
casualties),Which you knew would get Bush out,Would you quietly
rejoice.?

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