[kj] OT Fighting Corporate Rip-offs

Lucy Cornwell gathering@misera.net
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Neiman-Marcus Cookie Hoax
May 2003

This particular hoax has been going around for years and years though for
some reason I never included it here. It is pretty obviously a hoax as it
has lots of errors. Consider, the writer would have to sign her VISA credit
receipt. Don't you think whe would have noticed the $250? Also, her VISA
statement would only list Nieman-Marcus and a total. It does not list the
items.

Something I missed when I read it (and was informed of by a reader) is that
the total on the statement does not add up. It says,

  $250.00 - Cookie
  $20.00 - Scarf
  $9.95 - 2 salads
  --------
  $279.95 - Total
While the hoax says $285??? The difference is too small to be sales tax so I
guess the writer cannot add.
You can actually go to the Neiman-Marcus website and download the cookie
recipe. The recipe on the website is a little different from the recipe in
the hoax. The hoax recipe contains oats, a hershey bar, and nuts while the
official recipe contains espresso powder. I have been told that both recipes
are very good.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Tom Foolery
  Sent: 27 January 2004 07:16
  To: gathering@misera.net
  Subject: [kj] OT Fighting Corporate Rip-offs



  > > This is a true story. Please forward when you finish reading!
  > >
  > > A little background: Neiman-Marcus, if you don't know already, is a
  very expensive shop; i.e. they sell a typical $8.00 t-shirt for $50.00.
  > >
  > > Let's let them have it!
  > >>>
  > > THIS IS A TRUE STORY
  > > My daughter and I had just finished lunch at a Neiman-Marcus Cafe in
  Dallas. Because both of us are such biscuit lovers, we decided to try
  the
  > > "Neiman-Marcus cookie". It was so excellent that I asked if they
  would
  give me the recipe. The waitress said with a small frown, "I'm afraid
  > > not, but you can BUY the recipe."
  > >>>
  > > I asked how much, and she responded, "Only two fifty - it's a great
  deal!" I agreed to that, and told her to add it to my bill.
  > >>>
  > > Thirty days later, I got my VISA st atement, and the Neiman-Marcus
  charge was $285.00. I looked at it again, and I remembered I had only
  spent
  > > $9.95 for two sandwiches and about $20.00 for a scarf. At the bottom
  of
  the statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe-$250.00". That was outrageous!
  > >>>
  > > I called Neiman's Accounting Department and told them the waitress
  had
  said it was "two fifty", which clearly does not mean "two hundred and
  > > fifty dollars" by any reasonable interpretation of the phrase.
  Neiman-Marcus refused to budge. They would not refund my money because,
  according to them;
  > >
  > > "What the waitress told you is not our problem. You have already
  seen
  the recipe. We absolutely will not refund your money."
  > >
  > > I explained to the Accounting Department lady the criminal statutes
  which govern fraud in the state of Texas. I threatened to report them to
  the
  > > Better Busines s Bureau and the Texas Attorney General's office. I
  was
  basically told: Do what you want. Don't bother thinking of how you can
  > > get even, and don't bother trying to get any of your money back."
  > >>>
  > > I said, OK, you've got my $250, and now I'm going to have $250 worth
  of
  fun." I told her that I was going to see to it that every cookie lover
  > > in the world with an e-mail account gets a $250 cookie recipe from
  Neiman-Marcus... for free. She replied, "I wish you wouldn't do that."
  > >>>
  > > I said, "Well, perhaps you should have thought of that before you
  RIPPED
  ME OFF!" and slammed down the phone.
  > >>>
  > > So here it is! Please pass it on to everyone you can possibly think
  of.
  I paid $250 for this, and I don't want Neiman-Marcus to EVER make
  another
  > > penny from this recipe!
  > >>>
  > >>> NEIMAN-MARCUS COOKIES (Recipe may be halved)
  > >>> 2 cups butter
  > >>> 24 oz. chocolate chips
  > >>> 4 cups flour
  > >>> 2 cups brown sugar
  > >>> 2 tsp. (Bicarb) soda
  > >>> 1 tsp. salt
  > >>> 2 cups sugar
  > >>> 1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated)
  > >>> 5 cups blended oatmeal
  > >>> 4 eggs
  > >>> 2 tsp. baking powder
  > >>> 2 tsp. vanilla
  > >>> 3 cups chopped nuts (your choice)
  > >>>
  > >>> Measure oatmeal, and blend in a blender to a fine powder. Cream
  the
  > >> butter
  > >>> and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla, mix together with flour,
  > >> oatmeal,
  > >>> salt, baking powder, and Bicarb (soda). Add chocolate chips,
  Hershey
  > >> Bar,
  > >>> and nuts. Roll into balls, and place two inches apart on a cookie
  > >> sheet.
  > >>> Bake for 10 minutes at (180)  375 degrees.
  > >>>
  > >>> The above quantities makes 112 cookies.
  > >
  > > PLEASE KEEP THE RECIPE AND SEND IT TO EVERY PERSON YOU KNOW WHO HAS
  AN
  > > E-MAIL ADDRESS! This is not a joke-it's a true story.



  luv from

  Stimro

  "Mummy, what's a Killing Joke?"

  "A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"



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<P>May 2003 </P>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
gathering-admin@misera.net=20
  [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom=20
  Foolery<BR><B>Sent:</B> 27 January 2004 07:16<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  gathering@misera.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [kj] OT Fighting Corporate=20
  Rip-offs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>&gt; &gt; This is a true story. Please forward when you =
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waitress=20
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  &gt;&gt;&gt; 4 eggs<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; 2 tsp. baking powder<BR>&gt;=20
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  <BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; sheet.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Bake for 10 minutes at=20
  (180)&nbsp; 375 degrees.<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; The =
above=20
  quantities makes 112 cookies.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; PLEASE KEEP =
THE RECIPE=20
  AND SEND IT TO EVERY PERSON YOU KNOW WHO HAS<BR>AN<BR>&gt; &gt; E-MAIL =

  ADDRESS! This is not a joke-it's a true story.<BR><BR><BR>
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  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Black, Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif">luv =
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  <P><FONT face=3D"Arial Black">Stimro</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif"><EM>"Mummy, what's a =
Killing=20
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  <P><EM>"A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"</EM></P></DIV></DIV><BR=20
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