Fw: Re: [kj] For Beginners Out Now

Jerry Butson jerry at fleamusic.co.uk
Fri Aug 6 18:10:28 EDT 2004


Could be. I came across two alternate mixes of Kings and Queens, both in a dubby vein. Neither were marked as the Knaves Mix but my guess is that that title was conjured up by the marketing dept and that one of the se mixes would have been it.

j
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: cispas at skynet.be 
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  Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 1:47 PM
  Subject: RE: Re: [kj] For Beginners Out Now


  Hmmm, my usual cd-shop didn't have KJ4Beginners. Bloke couldn't even find it on his computer... =:o( 
  Speaking of unreleased mixes : will we ever get to hear the Knaves Mix of Kings And Queens? You know, that mysterious second 12"-mix that never made it onto vinyl. Is it lying in an EMI-vault somewhere? 
  Cis
   
   


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  Why thankyou Alex. My sleevenotes pretty much just amount to a potted
  history of the band but, I hope, put across some of the themes I was hoping
  the comp would address. Verbose, me?

  Anyone else bought 4 beginners yet? If so what d'you think of the unreleased
  mixes etc.?

  Sorry I've not been around here a while. I just find that the less I'm
  around the less of a fool I show myself up to be!

  j

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Alex Smith" 
  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
  ; 
  Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:08 AM
  Subject: [kj] For Beginners Out Now


  >
  > So, quite unexpectedly, I spotted a copy of KILLING JOKE FOR BEGINNERS in
  the Times Square Virgin megatoilet. Snatched it up, of course. Some
  thoughts.....
  >
  > - The "previously unreleased mix" of "We Have Joy" is much more
  drum-driven, but l! acks the harried, messy edge of the version on
  REVELATIONS. There are some lyrical switcheroos as well.
  >
  > - The single version of "Harlequin" isn't a wild departure from the
  original. A great song is a great song is a great song.
  >
  > - The single version of "Victory" is slightly different, but not enough to
  win new love from haterz like Our Rob Moss. A cleaner vocal can be heard.
  Slightly less obtrusive keybs. Lengthy bass intro is jettisoned.
  >
  > - The Chris Kimsey mix of "Rubicon" boasts a sharper guitar sound, which
  we likes alot, we does.
  >
  > - The Colesy cover art is ace, of course, but the inner booklet artwork is
  simply the inverted image from the cover, and various details of the child's
  grinning, slightly sinister stare. Back cover is a close up of the child's
  brow & burning red eyeballs.
  >
  > - Our own Jerry Butson writes some stonking liner notes. Nice work, Jerry!
  >
  > - I'! d like to see FOR BEGINNERS VOLUME TWO featuring material from
  EXTREMITIES on, personally. Not holding my breath, though.
  >
  > Anyway, there you have it.
  >
  > Alex in NYC
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