[kj] NYC gig - Mission Accomplished

Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:09:49 -0500

No worries, Cliff. Like I said, unless Tod decides to tag along, you have
three. Otherwise you have two waiting for you. Call the number I gave ya
last night (I'd re-post it by I don't have it with me) and find out about
scoring more tix for the rest of your travelling circus. But, rest assured
that you have at least two already taken care of.

In thinking more about this, I'm wondering if the sheer reason no one else
save the African dude was on "line" (a sad little line of two) with me is
that *NO ONE REALLY KNOWS ABOUT THIS GIG*. For a start, I don't listen to
NYC radio at all, so I don't rightly know if they've been playing any track=
s
off the album or making any announcements. Secondly, there is absolutely
*NO* poster/flyer campaign on the streets at all. This was *NOT* the case
circa PANDEMONIUM, where the chilling blue face of Hermes could regularly b=
e
seen peeking enigmatically out at you every five blocks or so. Even in the
likeliest of record stores, there isn't any display beyond the album in the
racks (which, I'm happy to say, remains prominent in most of the 'new
release' racks I've seen). Even the band's own website (I know, I know ---
pickin' on an easy target again) is at best vague and at worst non-commital
about the date.

Unless you're an obssesed jerkoff fanboy like myself (unwilling to let
information be selectively spoon-fed to him at a rate that makes glaciers
seem stealthy) how is John Q. Joker to know?? If you were simply a passive
fan of Killing Joke, there's every reason to believe this gig could float
right under the radar. Even the billing on the CMJ site is subtle beyond
belief (the Joke are listed under the "opening night party" roster, yet are
nowhere to be found on the list of bands scheduled to play during the
entirety of the seminar...it was a fluke that I spotted it....had I not
known to look for it, how would I have ever learned about it?)

If I were one of the boys in the band, I'd want to kick someone's ass about
this right now. THE WORD MUST BE SPREAD!

Alex in NYC

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>From: "Cliff and Kara Livingston" <antifrz@alaska.net>
>To: <gathering@misera.net>
>Cc: "Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] NYC gig - Mission Accomplished
>Date: Fri, Sep 26, 2003, 3:41 PM
>

>Most Excellent news my man,lemme know asap how many are available,and i'll
>pay you quickly with interest due when we hit the bar,haha Cheers,Cliff
>Thanks Alex completly makes my day,thanks very much !
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net>
>To: "Cliff and Kara Livingston" <antifrz@alaska.net>; <gathering@misera.ne=
t>
>Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:47 AM
>Subject: Re: [kj] NYC gig - Mission Accomplished
>
>
>
>
>Oy! What a morning. So, after becoming deeply disheartened by the seeming
>lack of cohesion behind the logistics of this gig, I rose this morning
>around 10:30 (after my 4pm to 4am shift) to bring to fruition the plan of
>having Killing Joke tickets in hand by the end of the day. I checked the
>various websites (CMJ, Webster Hall, Ticketmaster), and there was no chang=
e.
>Details were either frustratingly vague or non-existant.
>
>As fate would have it, I live but a mere three city blocks from Webster
>Hall, so I grabbed an iced coffee from a local deli, hit the ATM and
>proceeded to the venue at about 11:15 am. The front of Webster Hall (a
>criminally unrecognized architectural landmark dating back to god knows
>when) looked as shut as a beachfront surfshop during the bleakest days of
>December. One solitary individual (count'em: 1) sat on the steps, reading =
a
>copy of Kurt Vonegut's "Slaughterhouse Five". "Excuse me," I asked, "Are y=
ou
>here for the same reason I'm here?" "Teecketts gow en sail ad noooon," he
>mumbled, quickly returning to Vonegut's heady text....an interesting
>situation, given that English didn't immediately seem like this fellow's
>native tongue. Fine. So, I paced around, finishing my iced coffee and
>wondering what the hell's up. No one else around. A few likely looking,
>black-clad students walked down the street, but passed right by, heading f=
or
>the post office at the end of the block. Things were not adding up. I went
>back to the Vonegut-reader.
>
>"Which show are you looking to get tickets for?" I petitioned. He looked
>back up, and in a thick, African accent, "Keeeling Jowuck". "Really??" I
>retorted, hopefully not sounding too incredulous (not to put too fine a
>point on it, but this gentleman really didn't seem to be the type whose
>heart-rate accelartes when he hears the opening throb of "The Wait"). "Yes=
,"
>he replied, "I yem getting Keeeling Jowuck teeckets fohr mye friend, who
>izzat worruk at de mowmant."
>
>Could this really be it? Am I really the *ONLY* person in New York City
>waiting to get Killing Joke tickets, apart from some guy who is stuck at t=
he
>office and sends his exchange student pal? I was getting more dubious by t=
he
>moment.
>
>I called my ever-savvy pal Rob at his office out on Long Island (Andy Mise=
ra
>has met Rob...he's the gent getting furiously drunk with us in those pics =
on
>Andy's site from my London visit in 2000). I have Rob scan the Ticketmaste=
r
>site, the CMJ site and the Webster Hall site for any further developments.
>No news. I continued to pace up and down the block. Tick, tick, tick, tick=
.
>
>Around five minutes to noon, I decide to call the box office. "Hi," I say,
>"are you planning on selling tickets today, as advertised, for the CMJ
>opening night showcase on October 22nd?" "Not until 1:30". ***click***
>Gosh, thanks for telling us. In the spirit of fair play and good will, I
>inform my studious African friend that the sale time has evidently been
>pushed back to 1:30. He sighs, but doesn't look especially phased. I decid=
e
>to repair back home, use the facilities, eat some breakfast and grab a boo=
k
>to read for when I go back. Suddenly panicking (unreasonably so) that in m=
y
>absence, a veritable army of zealous My Morning Jacket fans have shown up =
to
>buy out the ticket supply, I hot-foot it back to Webster Hall, only to be
>met with the exact same scene, only my African pal has given up on Vonegut=
,
>and is now staring blankly into the middle-distance.
>
>"Mebbe no wan lykes dee Keeeling Jowuk," he helpfully postulates, only to =
be
>met with my furrowed-brow and "I WILL END YOU, BLASPHEMER" scowl. More tim=
e
>passes. Around 1pm, a ponytailed fellow in an ill-fitting Webster Hall
>t-shirt/dress pops out the door, asking either of us if we have a light.
>Neither of us do, but suddenly the African gent seizes the day. "Winnn mei
>weee bi teecketts fohr deee Keeeling Jowuck konserrt?" Captain Ponytail
>squints quizzically at the query until I butt in and translate. "Oh," he
>shrugs, "just ring the buzzer over at the door behind the stairs and that'=
ll
>let you into the box office." Progress maybe? Let's see.
>
>Letting the African dude go first (he got there before me, after all), we
>enter Webster Hall and climb a flight of stairs to the box office. It is
>only about 1:05 pm. Behind the counter was a eastern european-looking babe
>in a black wife-beater looking surprisingly pleased to see us. Sure enough=
,
>tickets were to be had. The African bloke buys a solitary ticket for his
>toiling friend and leaves, without a further word. I step up and pick up s=
ix
>tickets (as that's as far as my money would take me), so Dirk -- I have yo=
ur
>two tickets, and Cliff, depending on whether or not Tod [A]shely decides t=
o
>join us, you have two or three tickets waiting for you.
>
>As a final note, Killing Joke are listed at the bottom of the proceedings,
>under The New Deal and My Morning Jacket.
>
>Fini.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----------
>>From: "Cliff and Kara Livingston" <antifrz@alaska.net>
>>To: <gathering@misera.net>
>>Cc: "Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net>
>>Subject: Re: [kj] NYC gig
>>Date: Thu, Sep 25, 2003, 5:38 PM
>>
>
>>Yes Alex can you pick us up some tickets ?
>>Do ya know how much they are each?
>>If under $20 please buy 6 if over $20 buy 4 ?
>>Thanks,lemme know if ya get them,or if i shoud check out ticketmaster,don=
't
>>wanna miss out even a short KJ set is worth the trip,altho there's gonna =
be
>>a show in Philly.
>>Cheers and many thanks in advance,Cliff & Kara & whoever else is
>benifitting
>>!
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net>
>>To: <gathering@misera.net>; <gathering@misera.net>
>>Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:58 AM
>>Subject: Re: [kj] NYC gig
>>
>>
>>
>>Have to say, this whole event is getting more worriesome by the hour. For=
 a
>>start, the box office at Webster Hall (the venue) doesn't know anything
>>about the event in question (despite the fact that tix are going on sale
>for
>>it tomorrow at noon). They directed me to Ticketmaster, who showed no sig=
n
>>of recognition either.
>>
>>Moreover, on the night of the show (Oct.22), the doors don't open until
>>7:30. So far....there are three bands listed (with "many more to be
>>announced") lined-up before Killing Joke (and, by the way, apparently My
>>Morning Jacket have a higher billing than the Joke). That says "short set=
s"
>>to me.
>>
>>
>>I'm starting to get very pissed off.
>>
>>Alex in NYC
>>
>>----------
>>>From: "Dirk Kingerske" <dirkingerske@hotmail.com>
>>>To: gathering@misera.net
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] NYC gig
>>>Date: Thu, Sep 25, 2003, 12:23 PM
>>>
>>
>>>Hi Alex,
>>>
>>>two tix would be brilliant.... many thanks in advance!
>>>
>>>dirkcatchingup
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net>
>>>>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>>>>To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net
>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] NYC gig
>>>>Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:08:39 -0500
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dirk (and anyone else)....
>>>>
>>>>Tix go on sale for the NYC gig tomorrow at noon. At the moment, I'm
>>pickin'
>>>>up TWO tix for you, correct? Anyone else need assistance on this front?=
 I
>>>>luckily have the day, so I have all day to spend achieving the goal of =
KJ
>>>>tix in hand.
>>>>
>>>>Ale xin NYC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----------
>>>> >From: "Dirk Kingerske" <dirkingerske@hotmail.com>
>>>> >To: gathering@misera.net
>>>> >Subject: RE: [kj] giger counter
>>>> >Date: Thu, Sep 25, 2003, 11:40 AM
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >just for the record (and I know that i'm far from leading... I reckon
>>>>Matt
>>>> >has to have the lead at the moment..) I've just returned from my 3rd
>>>>Killing
>>>> >Joke gig this year and I have to admit that Bochum was brillliant! Th=
e
>>>>venue
>>>> >wasn't sold out and at first I was a bit worried that the tranquilize=
d
>>>> >audience wouldn't contribute to a decent Joke-night atmosphere.... bu=
t
>>>>this
>>>> >actually didn't matter... They kicked off with Communion and ended wi=
th
>>>> >Pandemonium, both with the Checmor violin player in addition. In
>between
>>>> >they played lovely tunes as Wardance, the Wait, TDRS, Kings and Queen=
s,
>>>> >Blood on your hands, change, tension, the fall of because, frenzy,
>>>>whiteout,
>>>> >seeing red, loose cannon, total invasion (not too sure about this one=
,
>>>> >though), empire song and asteroid.... a 110 mins setlist....
>>unspeakable!
>>>> >now let's talk about the audience: since nobody was moving up front i=
t
>>>>was
>>>> >up to Matt, Tom, Martin, Frank and me: we had so much space it was
>great
>>>>and
>>>> >it felt almost like a private concert.... we dashed into the crowd ba=
ck
>>>>and
>>>> >forth and hardly anyone, apart from some occasional visitors, who cam=
e
>>up
>>>> >when they played new album stuff,disturbed us at our little
>>gathering....
>>>> >pure magic! can't wait until tomorrow: Hamburg I'm COMING!!!!!
>>>> >
>>>> >p.s. matt, did you finally ask for the telephone number of the blonde
>>>> >waitress.... you whom I mean :o)
>>>> >
>>>> >>From: "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" <jane.shadforth@shell.com>
>>>> >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>>>> >>To: <gathering@misera.net>
>>>> >>Subject: RE: [kj] giger counter
>>>> >>Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:50:57 +0100
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Thanks Brian - I know about showtimes.... seen Killing Joke & NMA at
>>the
>>>> >>Elysee a couple of times before.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>We arrive in Paris at 13:00, so should have plenty of time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Jane
>>>> >>
>>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>> >>From: wittz@btinternet.com [mailto:wittz@btinternet.com]
>>>> >>Sent: 25 September 2003 15:40
>>>> >>To: gathering@misera.net
>>>> >>Subject: RE: [kj] giger counter
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>For the Montmatre(?) Paris gig there is a descent Irish bar just dow=
n
>>>>the
>>>> >>road that serves an excellent pint.
>>>> >>As you FACE the Elyesey(?) go left down the main road for a couple o=
f
>>>> >>hundred yards and the pub is on a corner in what is the opposite sid=
e
>>>>from
>>>> >>the Elyesey venue.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Caution the gigs at this place are known to start early !!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Brian.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >  from:    "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42"
>>>><jane.shadforth@shell.com>
>>>> >> >  date:    Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:29:43
>>>> >> >  to:      gathering@misera.net
>>>> >> >  subject: RE: [kj] giger counter
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I expect the european contingent will be in the lead at the momen=
t,
>>>> >>although we have plenty of chances to catch them up in October...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I can't remember who else said they were going to Rotterdam &
>>Paris??
>>>> >>Can anyone suggest a good bar near each venue to meet up beforehand?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Jane
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > PS - if you reply after 16:00 BST today, please mail
>>>> >>hioctaneorange@hotmail.com, which I'll try to check occasionally.
>We're
>>>>off
>>>> >>travelling to see the Cramps in Notts & London & go to a wedding in
>>>> >>Sheffield before we head to NL on Sunday.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> > From: pr 001 [mailto:stay_one_jump_ahead@hotmail.com]
>>>> >> > Sent: 25 September 2003 13:14
>>>> >> > To: gathering@misera.net
>>>> >> > Subject: [kj] giger counter
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > so who's been to the most gigs on this tour so far then? maybe we
>>>>should
>>>> >> > have a competition and the winner gets a prize. antoni, jane, mat=
t,
>>>>mik
>>>> >>-
>>>> >> > you guys must be in the running. tell you what, i'll donate a kj
>>>>poster
>>>> >>to
>>>> >> > whomever can clock up the most ticket stubs. let battle commence.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > ps. jel, my post was also in half-jest so don't feel bad. now i
>feel
>>>>bad
>>>> >> > about making you feel bad.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > pps jerry, tell rob jel has been slagging him off.
>>>> >> >
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