[kj] Used CDs. . .

Alex Smith gathering@misera.net
Wed, 08 Oct 2003 08:43:08 -0500


"i think accuracy is given a backseat to being funny"

See, that's where I completely disagree. If you're going to lambast
something in a comedic way, unless you have your FACTS right, it's not going
to matter.

Alex in NYC


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>From: Leigh Newton <morbidflorist@yahoo.com>
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Used CDs. . . 
>Date: Tue, Oct 7, 2003, 11:25 PM
>

>that's what got me as well! the ministry part is
>fucking hilarious. 
>
>i think shit like this is not to be taken too
>seriously. i think accuracy is given a backseat to
>being funny in an outrageous and slightly perverse
>way. it's good for a laugh and not much more. nothing
>to set your tastes by, for damn sure. 
>
>Leigh
>
>--- sade1 <saulomar1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>    wow, this was painfully funny if you happen to
>> like the tomes
>> reviewed. They even picked on The Sundays - they
>> never hurt
>> anyone...
>> But the Ministry review had me laffing hard...it's
>> 'to a tee'
>> what i've seen at EVERY Mnstry show,
>> 21: Ministry: Psalm 69
>>     Ministry fans don't die; in their world, they
>> don't even get
>> old. Prune-faced, grey-haired and drawn, they're
>> still blowing
>> rails of coke and wearing 18-inch Docs to clubs
>> nationwide. In
>> his big money heyday (1988-95), Ministry founder Al
>> Jourgensen
>> hit the stage with so much snow in his dreds it
>> looked like he
>> was wearing a powdered wig. Maybe it was heroin (who
>> really
>> knows?) but this much is clear: since Iggy Pop and
>> Bowie's
>> Berlin debauchery, no one in the underground music
>> scene has
>> done more drugs than this very angry Cubs fan. 
>> Though the name first surfaced on a handful of
>> effeminate
>> sub-Depeche Mode club tracks, Ministry soon became
>> the defining
>> industrial act, a raging speed metal freight train
>> that embraced
>> sequencing and later sampling. Like "Stigmata",
>> "Thieves" and
>> "Burning Inside", this album's "N.W.O.", "Just One
>> Fix" and the
>> Butthole Surfers collaboration "Jesus Built My
>> Hotrod" are songs
>> you should know by heart. Thousands of Lollapalooza
>> goers bought
>> Psalm 69 after the calamitous penultimate sets
>> Ministry
>> delivered, but this is exactly the sort of record
>> your wife will
>> shame you into selling ten years later, especially
>> if you have
>> kids. I may have to side with the ladies, since the
>> proto-grindcore "TV II" is to yuppies the audio
>> equivalent of
>> The Exorcist. Profit from the generation gap, young
>> readers:
>> this one still has nine-inch nails.
>> 
>> 2: New Order: Republic
>>     If you ever get into it with a snotty New Order
>> fan-- the
>> kind that refuses to acknowledge the hilarious
>> oafishness of
>> Bernard Sumner's lyrics (thankfully there aren't too
>> many after
>> Get Ready)-- there's one phrase guaranteed to send
>> them
>> screaming from the room: "Bass mechanic,
>> YEAAAAAAAAAAAH!" It may
>> have been sampled from Miami bass progenitor DXJ's
>> prescient
>> 1986 hit "Bass Mechanic", but no amount of
>> referential hipster
>> cachet could make me listen to "Spooky" ever again.
>> Sumner
>> shouting, "Let's defend the things we say," over
>> such a sub-par
>> backing track-- even by New Order's preprogrammed
>> standards-- is
>> agony. For him, regret. 
>> To this day, you can still find the "limited run",
>> lifejacket
>> version of Republic in rural American used CD shops.
>> Apart from
>> "Everyone Everywhere", a breezy, half-asleep bit of
>> wallpaper at
>> best, the three great singles ("Regret", "World" and
>> "Ruined in
>> a Day") from this hugely over-promoted 1993 album
>> are available
>> on the flawless Best of New Order, which was
>> released only two
>> years later to recoup against this album and the sad
>> supporting
>> tour that broke New Order up for almost ten years.
>> Head to the
>> hits comp for everything you'll need from this
>> tepid, repetitive
>> bore (and from Technique, for that matter
>> 
>> 
>> --- Mark Kolmar <mark@burningrome.com> wrote:
>> >
>>
>http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/features/castoffs-and-cutouts/index.shtml
>> > 
>> > Mostly savage 
>> 
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