From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 1 18:17:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Astrid Pretterhofer) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:17:36 +0100 (MET) Subject: [kj] Lanterns of Dope on line References: <8A5895F2E48FA145A39E569702887983058797@exchange02.unv.wlv.ac.uk> Message-ID: <29257.1067710656@www68.gmx.net> hey Rob, thanks soooo much for that. AEON is very close to how it was in my memory, Exorcism though failed to fulfill expectations (because of the lack of Jaz's eyes, i guess). thanks again, great stuff! Astrid. > Many thanks from the Midlands...listening to it now and A > eons is superb > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ro > b's Arse [mailto:joker@Z6.com] > Sent: Thu 10/30/2003 4: > 54 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Cc: > Subject: [kj] > Lanterns of Dope on line > > > > > > > http://www.robm > oss.nildram.co.uk > > Seems like this is the one most pe > ople are interested in. > > Roskilde next week.......... > ........... > > ________________________________________ > _____________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and ho > me of worldmap.com) > ___________________________________ > ____________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera. > net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++ From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 00:03:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (death wish) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:03:18 +0000 Subject: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show Message-ID: Dead quiet? What happened in Detroit? Or have I mysteriously fallen from the list? T. >From: "Christof hamille" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:10:38 -0500 > >Who is coming to this show. let me know and we will meet up. tix are >$15.00 > > >chris > > >>From: matt_hawes@linpacmh.com >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >>To: gathering@misera.net >>Subject: Re: [kj] Liverpool show >>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:18:04 -0400 >> >>Killing Joke in Detroit on Halloween, Freakin awesome, Im am there... >> >>MAtt >> >> "The information in this e-mail and any >>attachments >>to it are confidential. The contents may not be copied or used by anyone >>other than the addressee and must not be further disclosed without our >>permission. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please notify >>the >>sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachments to it from >>your systems. Warning: Although the company has taken reasonable >>precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, the company >>cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use >>of >>this e-mail or any attachments to it." >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering@misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_________________________________________________________________ >Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! >https://broadband.msn.com > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 00:56:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alexi Hamilton) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:56:08 +0000 Subject: [kj] Chicago show in 2 hours!!!! Message-ID:
   Well, I'm off to meet up with Chicago/St. Louis Gatherers....I'm so excited about the show tonight that I'm about to jump out of my seat!  I shall give a report (hopefully with pictures) to follow!
 
YAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
~Alexi

See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 00:56:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show Message-ID: <6418708.1067734582324.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> I was wondering the same... everyone wiped out in some sort of cataclysmic halloween gathering apocalypse? 'Hell night' in Detroit was always meant to be a bit scary, or so I've heard... N > from: death wish > date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:03:18 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show > > Dead quiet? What happened in Detroit? Or have I mysteriously fallen from the > list? > > T. > > > >From: "Christof hamille" > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show > >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:10:38 -0500 > > > >Who is coming to this show. let me know and we will meet up. tix are > >$15.00 > > > > > >chris > > > > > >>From: matt_hawes@linpacmh.com > >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >>To: gathering@misera.net > >>Subject: Re: [kj] Liverpool show > >>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:18:04 -0400 > >> > >>Killing Joke in Detroit on Halloween, Freakin awesome, Im am there... > >> > >>MAtt > >> > >> "The information in this e-mail and any > >>attachments > >>to it are confidential. The contents may not be copied or used by anyone > >>other than the addressee and must not be further disclosed without our > >>permission. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please notify > >>the > >>sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachments to it from > >>your systems. Warning: Although the company has taken reasonable > >>precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, the company > >>cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the use > >>of > >>this e-mail or any attachments to it." > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Gathering mailing list > >>Gathering@misera.net > >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! > >https://broadband.msn.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http://join.msn.com/?page=misc/specialoffers&pgmarket=en-ca > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 01:03:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 02:03:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show In-Reply-To: <6418708.1067734582324.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <20031102020300.M21012-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 neilfperry@btinternet.com wrote: > I was wondering the same... everyone wiped out in some sort > of cataclysmic halloween gathering apocalypse? 'Hell night' in > Detroit was always meant to be a bit scary, or so I've heard... Yeah, we burned it all and pissed it out. Wait, wrong list .. b From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 09:14:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:14:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] Year Of The Devil to be screened in Nottingham (16/11/03) Message-ID: <001e01c3a121$c62f7ee0$4d857ed4@mydomain.com> As ever, from the Gathering Messages Board : http://www.misera.net/gathering/board/messages/4279.html Any one want a couple of tickets for the "Year Of The Devil" film on Nov 16, guess who's in it playing himself..? Posted by johnblonde on November 01, 2003 at 22:45:52: (62.254.0.16) Hi everyone, had enough of the Killin Joke bunch of old pissheads debate? Not too bothered how yet another gig went over in the States? Well, it's culture time... In Nottingham on Nov 16, at the Broadway cinema, there is a one off showing at 4.15 pm of Year of the Devil, a Czech movie about a Dutch filmmaker making a documentary about a recovering alcoholic going on tour with a folk rock group. Meanwhile, the group are being courted by a legendary singer to perform with a Prague orchestra. No prizes for guessing who the singer is! So, in the spirit of co-operation expressed by folk like Mrs.C and Pat Fastard, I plan to get a couple of tickets which I will give away to anyone who can get to Nottm at that time and wants to bring a friend. Not sure what the competition is yet to get them, just seeing if anyone is interested first. IF Mrs.C or Pat.F are reading this, any ideas welcome. Stay Lucky John ***************************** I saw this with JP down at the Hammersmith Riverside studios late last year. It then was part of a Czech Film Festival and we also got a short unplugged set from two of the Cechomor guys. The film, live music plus a free bottle of Czech beer all for a fiver. Can't be bad. I have no idea what the deal is up in Nottingham though. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 11:23:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Wayne Walker) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 11:23:49 +0000 Subject: [kj] Lanterns of Dope on line Message-ID: Many thanks again Rob for putting this gig on-line, I loved the way Mathematics of Chaos turned into Hollywood Babylon towards the end! >From: "Astrid Pretterhofer" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: RE: [kj] Lanterns of Dope on line >Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:17:36 +0100 (MET) > >hey Rob, thanks soooo much for that. AEON is very close to how it was in my >memory, Exorcism though failed to fulfill expectations (because of the lack >of Jaz's eyes, i guess). >thanks again, great stuff! >Astrid. > > > > Many thanks from the Midlands...listening to it now and A > > eons is superb > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ro > > b's Arse [mailto:joker@Z6.com] > > Sent: Thu 10/30/2003 4: > > 54 PM > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Cc: > > Subject: [kj] > > Lanterns of Dope on line > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.robm > > oss.nildram.co.uk > > > > Seems like this is the one most pe > > ople are interested in. > > > > Roskilde next week.......... > > ........... > > > > ________________________________________ > > _____________________ > > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and ho > > me of worldmap.com) > > ___________________________________ > > ____________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera. > > net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > >-- >NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... >Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService > >Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net > >+++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++ > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 11:33:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bob Barathy) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 11:33:49 -0000 Subject: [kj] Year Of The Devil to be screened in Nottingham (16/11/03) In-Reply-To: <001e01c3a121$c62f7ee0$4d857ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: A very generous gesture! Unfortunaely too far for me to contemplate. Is this film out on DVD or VHS though? Bob From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 11:58:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (circusbar) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:58:04 -0200 Subject: [kj] Lanterns of Dope on line Message-ID: Hi Rob, trying to download right now, but it says that the link doesn=B4t work, did you get it off line??? many thanks diaz --- Acabe com aquelas janelinhas que pulam na sua tela. AntiPop-up UOL - =C9 gr=E1tis! http://antipopup.uol.com.br From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 17:23:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:23:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Lanterns of Dope on line Message-ID: <20031102172351.778763978@sitemail.everyone.net> Nope! Should still be ther Diaz. try again. --- "circusbar" wrote: Hi Rob, trying to download right now, but it says that the link doesn=C2=B4t work, did you get it off line??? many thanks diaz --- Acabe com aquelas janelinhas que pulam na sua tela. AntiPop-up UOL - =C3=89 gr=C3=A1tis! http://antipopup.uol.com.br _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 17:58:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 12:58:34 -0500 Subject: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show All right already I was busy yesterday Message-ID: All right, all right, all right, jesus christ I was working all day yesterday. And for the record it is called Devil's Night the day before Halloween and the curfew's and neighborhood watches start the week of Halloween and extending to the few days following. This year the were only 40 fires and the average number on any given night is around 40. The arson threat has really not been present for quite some time. All right on tho the show. Halloween night. While throwing some candy at some kids the batphone rings. "I got here at 8:00 PM when the doors opened and Amen just started playing at 9:00 PM" (parphrasing here ). Holy batshit. I wasn't planning on getting down there until 10:oo PM or so. So we close up and get ready. I am gettign ansty because my wife was not ready in 5 minutes like I was. At this point the batphone rings again. "Hey Chris it is Paul from the Gathering. I am across the street from the venue and I will be there in a little while. I got your money." Damn right you better have my money (I kid, I kid). We are out the door. No more trick or treaters on the street and the streets are free for cruising. Down at the venue. People on cell phones, probably drunk, thinking their shit is hotter than the sun and on a friday night can really piss a guy off. I'll just leave it at that. Get to the door I hear Amen. And then I hear "We are Amen this is our last song.", whew looks like I got here just in time Killing Joke will be on within the half hour (time now 9:45 PM). I was not disappointed at all by missing Amen. If they are good (which they might be), I would not have that so by what little I have heard. I get in to the venue (Majestic Theatre *) and I see a man with a leather coat with bones painted on them (he said "like the Misfits" but Iwas thinking more like Spinal Tap) it is Paul Bernardi. We talk have a good time. I am guessing he willbe the winner of seeing the most shows (at least Stateside). There are not a lot of people. Maybe a couple hundred. Halloween is a tough night to play in Detroit. There are always big events going on and parties and all of the other typical crap. And add the Shonen Knife is playing next door so all of th e garage rock jerks are there adn then Insane Clown Posse (which didn't they break up? Man I hoped so. they are getting as bad as Kiss with their farewell crap) is down the street so all o fthe idiotic jerks are there. So the venue was a little dry. Paul introduces me to a man and his wife who know for the life of me I cannto remeber his name (I really am sorry it was nice meeting you). Well anyway it was mentioned that the show will start at 11;15 PM. So I did get here early and why the long gap between Amen and Killing Joke I do not know. There are a few people dressed up for Halloween. A lot of older people (like myself) and lost of them showing off their old Killing Joke t-shirts. the man who cannto be named mentioned that everyone in the band seem to be in good spirits adn ready to go. 11;15 PM nothing 11:30 PM nothing. Then the lights go out. Faith Healer is blasting through the system. And now it is time. The set list is the same with one exception. No Follow the Leader for the encore, BUT, Frenzy is thrown in. Us older folks are standing at the fron enjoying the show. By the time they get to Blood On Your Hands the kids could not contain themselves and had to start moshing around. Everyone seemed to be in good moods. Jaz was doingthe robotronic arms stutters while Geordie was oozing around looking as cool as ever. Raven was, well Raven. Complete with stocking cap and orange and black stripped sweater (I though Mr. Atkins had the stripped thing patented and played out ;) ) looming and glooming around. Mr. Parsons was there to play drums and do it very well. Nick was low key and inthe corner hittignn the keys and the sounds perfectly. They were good. Tight. It just seemed to be another show for them. Which is fine but Jaz left us with little (practically no) stage banter. The only thing I can remeber is "Vote republican. Wardance". After the show I gathered up myself to try to meet them. I am not good at thsi sort of thing. I saw Geordies wife and son (who looks like a young Geordie) and it seemed like there was a lot of family and friends from the area. I did not stick aroudn because it was crowded and I was tired. I was fine with that. Onthe way out I saw Ted and told him how great he was. He joked around a bit and did fist in the air thing and said thank you. I stepped outside and foudn myself at the end of another thrilling Killing Joke show. I hope they do come back in 2004. And Geordie will be tracked and stalked and forced to give me guitar lessons. I kid, I kid, I kid. Chris p.s. Mr Bernadi probably has a better commentary on the night, and a fine chap also. * Majestic Theatre sits on the infamous Woodward Avenue. I believe some time before the "Big One" (WWII) the Avenue was widened , which as a result cut the Majestic almost in half. If you look up at the ceiling you can still see the original ornate tiling and the center point of it is towards the entrance of the building. Originally it was a movie and playhouse. It sat vacant for decades. I think some time in the sixties they gutted all of the seats and started doing shows again. I am guessing but it probably holds around 600. Really tall ceilings with not a lot of depth. And as a result the sound is awful. It bounces around in the worst way imagineable. Recently they have done a major overhaul of the soundsystem and it is much, much better. The venue has been open now (regularly) for the last 15 years or so. Attached to it is the Magic Stick bar/concert venue and the Garden Bowl which is one of Detroit's oldest Bowling Alleys. The Majestic Theatre is also known as the last venue Houdini performed at before being admitted to the hospital directly behind it where he passed away (from a incident in Vancouver prior). I am not exact on my history but something like that. >From: neilfperry@btinternet.com >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT) > >I was wondering the same... everyone wiped out in some sort >of cataclysmic halloween gathering apocalypse? 'Hell night' in >Detroit was always meant to be a bit scary, or so I've heard... >N > > > from: death wish > > date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:03:18 > > to: gathering@misera.net > > subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show > > > > Dead quiet? What happened in Detroit? Or have I mysteriously fallen from >the > > list? > > > > T. > > > > > > >From: "Christof hamille" > > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show > > >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:10:38 -0500 > > > > > >Who is coming to this show. let me know and we will meet up. tix are > > >$15.00 > > > > > > > > >chris > > > > > > > > >>From: matt_hawes@linpacmh.com > > >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > >>To: gathering@misera.net > > >>Subject: Re: [kj] Liverpool show > > >>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:18:04 -0400 > > >> > > >>Killing Joke in Detroit on Halloween, Freakin awesome, Im am there... > > >> > > >>MAtt > > >> > > >> "The information in this e-mail and any > > >>attachments > > >>to it are confidential. The contents may not be copied or used by >anyone > > >>other than the addressee and must not be further disclosed without our > > >>permission. 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Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 18:49:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 18:49:08 -0000 Subject: [kj] very OT - on the beeb again References: Message-ID: <003601c3a172$00657a60$8f887ed4@mydomain.com> Okay folks, the BBC filming took place today but it was moved London Heathrow (due to the lack of activity at RAF Northolt over a normal weekend). The upshot is that the footage will be used for a "Special Report" on the fate of our Bail Money which is currently scheduled for the main BBC1 Evening News program tomorrow night (the report should be on at about 6.15pm). If any news dramatic stories occur & the schedule changes, the report may be moved to Tuesday, Wednesday etc. As promised I prominently wore my Pssyche/Wardance t-shirt under my combat jacket, but since we were standing out there for over 4 hours (I'd banked on about 1/2 an hour), I pretty much froze my cods off by the windswept "27L" threshold. It was almost as chilly as last Sunday in Copenhagen ... it is exactly 2 years to the day when I made that fateful trip to Greece. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoni Adamiak" To: Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: [kj] very OT - on the beeb again > Hello folks, > > Just a quick note to say that the BBC are filming a bit with me and some of > the other ex-spies outside RAF Northolt on Sunday. It's mainly to highlight > the fact that nearly 2 years on, our £10K (each) bail money is still being > withheld. The guy asked if I would partake in a *hobby* shoot but I think > I'll just stand there looking miserable with my KJ Wardance t-shirt on > display (even if it's subzero out there !) > > It may be shown on BBC LDN on Monday - not sure of the finer details at this > stage. > > Regards, > > Antoni > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 19:03:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:03:19 -0500 Subject: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show All right already I was busy yesterday Message-ID: sorry for all of the typos >From: "Christof hamille" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show All right already I was busy >yesterday Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 12:58:34 -0500 > >All right, all right, all right, jesus christ I was working all day >yesterday. And for the record it is called Devil's Night the day before >Halloween and the curfew's and neighborhood watches start the week of >Halloween and extending to the few days following. This year the were only >40 fires and the average number on any given night is around 40. The arson >threat has really not been present for quite some time. > >All right on tho the show. > >Halloween night. While throwing some candy at some kids the batphone >rings. "I got here at 8:00 PM when the doors opened and Amen just started >playing at 9:00 PM" (parphrasing here ). Holy batshit. I wasn't planning >on getting down there until 10:oo PM or so. So we close up and get ready. >I am gettign ansty because my wife was not ready in 5 minutes like I was. >At this point the batphone rings again. "Hey Chris it is Paul from the >Gathering. I am across the street from the venue and I will be there in a >little while. I got your money." Damn right you better have my money (I >kid, I kid). We are out the door. No more trick or treaters on the street >and the streets are free for cruising. >Down at the venue. People on cell phones, probably drunk, thinking their >shit is hotter than the sun and on a friday night can really piss a guy >off. I'll just leave it at that. Get to the door I hear Amen. And then I >hear "We are Amen this is our last song.", whew looks like I got here just >in time Killing Joke will be on within the half hour (time now 9:45 PM). I >was not disappointed at all by missing Amen. If they are good (which >they might be), I would not have that so by what little I have heard. I >get in to the venue (Majestic Theatre *) and I see a man with a leather >coat with bones painted on them (he said "like the Misfits" but Iwas >thinking more like Spinal Tap) it is Paul Bernardi. We talk have a good >time. I am guessing he willbe the winner of seeing the most shows (at >least Stateside). There are not a lot of people. Maybe a couple hundred. >Halloween is a tough night to play in Detroit. There are always big events >going on and parties and all of the other typical crap. And add the Shonen >Knife is playing next door so all of th e garage rock jerks are there adn >then Insane Clown Posse (which didn't they break up? Man I hoped so. they >are getting as bad as Kiss with their farewell crap) is down the street so >all o fthe idiotic jerks are there. So the venue was a little dry. Paul >introduces me to a man and his wife who know for the life of me I cannto >remeber his name (I really am sorry it was nice meeting you). Well anyway >it was mentioned that the show will start at 11;15 PM. So I did get here >early and why the long gap between Amen and Killing Joke I do not know. >There are a few people dressed up for Halloween. A lot of older people >(like myself) and lost of them showing off their old Killing Joke t-shirts. > the man who cannto be named mentioned that everyone in the band seem to >be in good spirits adn ready to go. >11;15 PM nothing >11:30 PM nothing. >Then the lights go out. Faith Healer is blasting through the system. And >now it is time. The set list is the same with one exception. No Follow >the Leader for the encore, BUT, Frenzy is thrown in. Us older folks are >standing at the fron enjoying the show. By the time they get to Blood On >Your Hands the kids could not contain themselves and had to start moshing >around. Everyone seemed to be in good moods. Jaz was doingthe robotronic >arms stutters while Geordie was oozing around looking as cool as ever. >Raven was, well Raven. Complete with stocking cap and orange and black >stripped sweater (I though Mr. Atkins had the stripped thing patented and >played out ;) ) looming and glooming around. Mr. Parsons was there to >play drums and do it very well. Nick was low key and inthe corner hittignn >the keys and the sounds perfectly. They were good. Tight. It just seemed >to be another show for them. Which is fine but Jaz left us with little >(practically no) stage banter. The only thing I can remeber is "Vote >republican. Wardance". >After the show I gathered up myself to try to meet them. I am not good at >thsi sort of thing. I saw Geordies wife and son (who looks like a young >Geordie) and it seemed like there was a lot of family and friends from the >area. I did not stick aroudn because it was crowded and I was tired. I >was fine with that. Onthe way out I saw Ted and told him how great he was. > He joked around a bit and did fist in the air thing and said thank you. >I stepped outside and foudn myself at the end of another thrilling Killing >Joke show. >I hope they do come back in 2004. And Geordie will be tracked and stalked >and forced to give me guitar lessons. I kid, I kid, I kid. > >Chris > >p.s. Mr Bernadi probably has a better commentary on the night, and a fine >chap also. > >* Majestic Theatre sits on the infamous Woodward Avenue. I believe some >time before the "Big One" (WWII) the Avenue was widened , which as a result >cut the Majestic almost in half. If you look up at the ceiling you can >still see the original ornate tiling and the center point of it is towards >the entrance of the building. Originally it was a movie and playhouse. It >sat vacant for decades. I think some time in the sixties they gutted all >of the seats and started doing shows again. I am guessing but it probably >holds around 600. Really tall ceilings with not a lot of depth. And as a >result the sound is awful. It bounces around in the worst way imagineable. > Recently they have done a major overhaul of the soundsystem and it is >much, much better. The venue has been open now (regularly) for the last 15 >years or so. Attached to it is the Magic Stick bar/concert venue and the >Garden Bowl which is one of Detroit's oldest Bowling Alleys. The Majestic >Theatre is also known as the last venue Houdini performed at before being >admitted to the hospital directly behind it where he passed away (from a >incident in Vancouver prior). I am not exact on my history but something >like that. > >>From: neilfperry@btinternet.com >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >>To: gathering@misera.net >>Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT) >> >>I was wondering the same... everyone wiped out in some sort >>of cataclysmic halloween gathering apocalypse? 'Hell night' in >>Detroit was always meant to be a bit scary, or so I've heard... >>N >> >> > from: death wish >> > date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:03:18 >> > to: gathering@misera.net >> > subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >> > >> > Dead quiet? What happened in Detroit? Or have I mysteriously fallen >>from the >> > list? >> > >> > T. >> > >> > >> > >From: "Christof hamille" >> > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> > >To: gathering@misera.net >> > >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >> > >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:10:38 -0500 >> > > >> > >Who is coming to this show. let me know and we will meet up. tix are >> > >$15.00 >> > > >> > > >> > >chris >> > > >> > > >> > >>From: matt_hawes@linpacmh.com >> > >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> > >>To: gathering@misera.net >> > >>Subject: Re: [kj] Liverpool show >> > >>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:18:04 -0400 >> > >> >> > >>Killing Joke in Detroit on Halloween, Freakin awesome, Im am there... >> > >> >> > >>MAtt >> > >> >> > >> "The information in this e-mail and any >> > >>attachments >> > >>to it are confidential. The contents may not be copied or used by >>anyone >> > >>other than the addressee and must not be further disclosed without >>our >> > >>permission. 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Get two months FREE! >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 20:52:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 15:52:19 -0500 Subject: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show All right already I was busy yesterday Message-ID: <200311022052.hA2KqBcw005465@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> "People on cell phones, probably drunk, thinking their shit is hotter than the sun" Not sure why, but this sentence had me laughing like a drunk hyaena. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "Christof hamille" >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show All right already I was busy yesterday >Date: Sun, Nov 2, 2003, 12:58 PM > >All right, all right, all right, jesus christ I was working all day >yesterday. And for the record it is called Devil's Night the day before >Halloween and the curfew's and neighborhood watches start the week of >Halloween and extending to the few days following. This year the were only >40 fires and the average number on any given night is around 40. The arson >threat has really not been present for quite some time. > >All right on tho the show. > >Halloween night. While throwing some candy at some kids the batphone rings. > "I got here at 8:00 PM when the doors opened and Amen just started playing >at 9:00 PM" (parphrasing here ). Holy batshit. I wasn't planning on >getting down there until 10:oo PM or so. So we close up and get ready. I >am gettign ansty because my wife was not ready in 5 minutes like I was. At >this point the batphone rings again. "Hey Chris it is Paul from the >Gathering. I am across the street from the venue and I will be there in a >little while. I got your money." Damn right you better have my money (I >kid, I kid). We are out the door. No more trick or treaters on the street >and the streets are free for cruising. >Down at the venue. People on cell phones, probably drunk, thinking their >shit is hotter than the sun and on a friday night can really piss a guy off. > I'll just leave it at that. Get to the door I hear Amen. And then I hear >"We are Amen this is our last song.", whew looks like I got here just in >time Killing Joke will be on within the half hour (time now 9:45 PM). I was >not disappointed at all by missing Amen. If they are good (which they >might be), I would not have that so by what little I have heard. I get in >to the venue (Majestic Theatre *) and I see a man with a leather coat with >bones painted on them (he said "like the Misfits" but Iwas thinking more >like Spinal Tap) it is Paul Bernardi. We talk have a good time. I am >guessing he willbe the winner of seeing the most shows (at least Stateside). > There are not a lot of people. Maybe a couple hundred. Halloween is a >tough night to play in Detroit. There are always big events going on and >parties and all of the other typical crap. And add the Shonen Knife is >playing next door so all of th e garage rock jerks are there adn then Insane >Clown Posse (which didn't they break up? Man I hoped so. they are getting >as bad as Kiss with their farewell crap) is down the street so all o fthe >idiotic jerks are there. So the venue was a little dry. Paul introduces me >to a man and his wife who know for the life of me I cannto remeber his name >(I really am sorry it was nice meeting you). Well anyway it was mentioned >that the show will start at 11;15 PM. So I did get here early and why the >long gap between Amen and Killing Joke I do not know. There are a few >people dressed up for Halloween. A lot of older people (like myself) and >lost of them showing off their old Killing Joke t-shirts. the man who >cannto be named mentioned that everyone in the band seem to be in good >spirits adn ready to go. >11;15 PM nothing >11:30 PM nothing. >Then the lights go out. Faith Healer is blasting through the system. And >now it is time. The set list is the same with one exception. No Follow the >Leader for the encore, BUT, Frenzy is thrown in. Us older folks are >standing at the fron enjoying the show. By the time they get to Blood On >Your Hands the kids could not contain themselves and had to start moshing >around. Everyone seemed to be in good moods. Jaz was doingthe robotronic >arms stutters while Geordie was oozing around looking as cool as ever. >Raven was, well Raven. Complete with stocking cap and orange and black >stripped sweater (I though Mr. Atkins had the stripped thing patented and >played out ;) ) looming and glooming around. Mr. Parsons was there to >play drums and do it very well. Nick was low key and inthe corner hittignn >the keys and the sounds perfectly. They were good. Tight. It just seemed >to be another show for them. Which is fine but Jaz left us with little >(practically no) stage banter. The only thing I can remeber is "Vote >republican. Wardance". >After the show I gathered up myself to try to meet them. I am not good at >thsi sort of thing. I saw Geordies wife and son (who looks like a young >Geordie) and it seemed like there was a lot of family and friends from the >area. I did not stick aroudn because it was crowded and I was tired. I was >fine with that. Onthe way out I saw Ted and told him how great he was. He >joked around a bit and did fist in the air thing and said thank you. I >stepped outside and foudn myself at the end of another thrilling Killing >Joke show. >I hope they do come back in 2004. And Geordie will be tracked and stalked >and forced to give me guitar lessons. I kid, I kid, I kid. > >Chris > >p.s. Mr Bernadi probably has a better commentary on the night, and a fine >chap also. > >* Majestic Theatre sits on the infamous Woodward Avenue. I believe some >time before the "Big One" (WWII) the Avenue was widened , which as a result >cut the Majestic almost in half. If you look up at the ceiling you can >still see the original ornate tiling and the center point of it is towards >the entrance of the building. Originally it was a movie and playhouse. It >sat vacant for decades. I think some time in the sixties they gutted all of >the seats and started doing shows again. I am guessing but it probably >holds around 600. Really tall ceilings with not a lot of depth. And as a >result the sound is awful. It bounces around in the worst way imagineable. >Recently they have done a major overhaul of the soundsystem and it is much, >much better. The venue has been open now (regularly) for the last 15 years >or so. Attached to it is the Magic Stick bar/concert venue and the Garden >Bowl which is one of Detroit's oldest Bowling Alleys. The Majestic Theatre >is also known as the last venue Houdini performed at before being admitted >to the hospital directly behind it where he passed away (from a incident in >Vancouver prior). I am not exact on my history but something like that. > >>From: neilfperry@btinternet.com >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >>To: gathering@misera.net >>Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT) >> >>I was wondering the same... everyone wiped out in some sort >>of cataclysmic halloween gathering apocalypse? 'Hell night' in >>Detroit was always meant to be a bit scary, or so I've heard... >>N >> >> > from: death wish >> > date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:03:18 >> > to: gathering@misera.net >> > subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >> > >> > Dead quiet? What happened in Detroit? Or have I mysteriously fallen from >>the >> > list? >> > >> > T. >> > >> > >> > >From: "Christof hamille" >> > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> > >To: gathering@misera.net >> > >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >> > >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:10:38 -0500 >> > > >> > >Who is coming to this show. let me know and we will meet up. tix are >> > >$15.00 >> > > >> > > >> > >chris >> > > >> > > >> > >>From: matt_hawes@linpacmh.com >> > >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> > >>To: gathering@misera.net >> > >>Subject: Re: [kj] Liverpool show >> > >>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:18:04 -0400 >> > >> >> > >>Killing Joke in Detroit on Halloween, Freakin awesome, Im am there... >> > >> >> > >>MAtt >> > >> >> > >> "The information in this e-mail and any >> > >>attachments >> > >>to it are confidential. The contents may not be copied or used by >>anyone >> > >>other than the addressee and must not be further disclosed without our >> > >>permission. If you have received this e-mail by mistake, please >>notify >> > >>the >> > >>sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachments to it >>from >> > >>your systems. 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Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >> > >>http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http://join.msn.com /?page=mis >c/specialoffers&pgmarket=en-ca >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering@misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> >> >>-- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering@misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy >patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 20:58:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (The Exorcist) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:58:48 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] NYC 2003 photos In-Reply-To: <200311022052.hA2KqBcw005465@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/ Above is The Link. Sorry for the crapp with all the marks (dust). I've come to the conclusion that it is time for a new camera. Feh! I didn't name them cuase I am in a wee bit of a hurry. Nevertheless. Enjoy! Sincerely, Man in need of new camera From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 21:06:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:06:42 -0500 Subject: [kj] NYC 2003 photos Message-ID: <200311022106.hA2L6Ygt008086@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Nicely done, man. I love how the girl in the background of this photo appreciates the idiocy of the proceedings. http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/gang01.jpg Believe it or not, I'll have more coming this week as well. Odd that short a comparitively short performance should be as well documented. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: The Exorcist >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] NYC 2003 photos >Date: Sun, Nov 2, 2003, 3:58 PM > >http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/ > >Above is The Link. > >Sorry for the crapp with all the marks (dust). >I've come to the conclusion that it is time for a new camera. >Feh! >I didn't name them cuase I am in a wee bit of a hurry. >Nevertheless. >Enjoy! > >Sincerely, Man in need of new camera > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 21:09:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 21:09:30 -0000 Subject: [kj] NYC 2003 photos References: Message-ID: <13a901c3a185$9c7fa840$d9ad883e@mycomputer> has Geordie high lighted his hair? http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/08.jpg > http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/ > > Above is The Link. > > Sorry for the crapp with all the marks (dust). > I've come to the conclusion that it is time for a new camera. > Feh! > I didn't name them cuase I am in a wee bit of a hurry. > Nevertheless. > Enjoy! > > Sincerely, Man in need of new camera > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 21:14:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 13:14:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show All right already I was busy yesterday Message-ID: <20031102211450.17B94398A@sitemail.everyone.net> I dodn't nitoce any --- "Christof hamille" wrote: sorry for all of the typos >From: "Christof hamille" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show All right already I was busy >yesterday Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 12:58:34 -0500 > >All right, all right, all right, jesus christ I was working all day >yesterday. And for the record it is called Devil's Night the day before >Halloween and the curfew's and neighborhood watches start the week of >Halloween and extending to the few days following. This year the were only >40 fires and the average number on any given night is around 40. The arson >threat has really not been present for quite some time. > >All right on tho the show. > >Halloween night. While throwing some candy at some kids the batphone >rings. "I got here at 8:00 PM when the doors opened and Amen just started >playing at 9:00 PM" (parphrasing here ). Holy batshit. I wasn't planning >on getting down there until 10:oo PM or so. So we close up and get ready. >I am gettign ansty because my wife was not ready in 5 minutes like I was. >At this point the batphone rings again. "Hey Chris it is Paul from the >Gathering. I am across the street from the venue and I will be there in a >little while. I got your money." Damn right you better have my money (I >kid, I kid). We are out the door. No more trick or treaters on the street >and the streets are free for cruising. >Down at the venue. People on cell phones, probably drunk, thinking their >shit is hotter than the sun and on a friday night can really piss a guy >off. I'll just leave it at that. Get to the door I hear Amen. And then I >hear "We are Amen this is our last song.", whew looks like I got here just >in time Killing Joke will be on within the half hour (time now 9:45 PM). I >was not disappointed at all by missing Amen. If they are good (which >they might be), I would not have that so by what little I have heard. I >get in to the venue (Majestic Theatre *) and I see a man with a leather >coat with bones painted on them (he said "like the Misfits" but Iwas >thinking more like Spinal Tap) it is Paul Bernardi. We talk have a good >time. I am guessing he willbe the winner of seeing the most shows (at >least Stateside). There are not a lot of people. Maybe a couple hundred. >Halloween is a tough night to play in Detroit. There are always big events >going on and parties and all of the other typical crap. And add the Shonen >Knife is playing next door so all of th e garage rock jerks are there adn >then Insane Clown Posse (which didn't they break up? Man I hoped so. they >are getting as bad as Kiss with their farewell crap) is down the street so >all o fthe idiotic jerks are there. So the venue was a little dry. Paul >introduces me to a man and his wife who know for the life of me I cannto >remeber his name (I really am sorry it was nice meeting you). Well anyway >it was mentioned that the show will start at 11;15 PM. So I did get here >early and why the long gap between Amen and Killing Joke I do not know. >There are a few people dressed up for Halloween. A lot of older people >(like myself) and lost of them showing off their old Killing Joke t-shirts. > the man who cannto be named mentioned that everyone in the band seem to >be in good spirits adn ready to go. >11;15 PM nothing >11:30 PM nothing. >Then the lights go out. Faith Healer is blasting through the system. And >now it is time. The set list is the same with one exception. No Follow >the Leader for the encore, BUT, Frenzy is thrown in. Us older folks are >standing at the fron enjoying the show. By the time they get to Blood On >Your Hands the kids could not contain themselves and had to start moshing >around. Everyone seemed to be in good moods. Jaz was doingthe robotronic >arms stutters while Geordie was oozing around looking as cool as ever. >Raven was, well Raven. Complete with stocking cap and orange and black >stripped sweater (I though Mr. Atkins had the stripped thing patented and >played out ;) ) looming and glooming around. Mr. Parsons was there to >play drums and do it very well. Nick was low key and inthe corner hittignn >the keys and the sounds perfectly. They were good. Tight. It just seemed >to be another show for them. Which is fine but Jaz left us with little >(practically no) stage banter. The only thing I can remeber is "Vote >republican. Wardance". >After the show I gathered up myself to try to meet them. I am not good at >thsi sort of thing. I saw Geordies wife and son (who looks like a young >Geordie) and it seemed like there was a lot of family and friends from the >area. I did not stick aroudn because it was crowded and I was tired. I >was fine with that. Onthe way out I saw Ted and told him how great he was. > He joked around a bit and did fist in the air thing and said thank you. >I stepped outside and foudn myself at the end of another thrilling Killing >Joke show. >I hope they do come back in 2004. And Geordie will be tracked and stalked >and forced to give me guitar lessons. I kid, I kid, I kid. > >Chris > >p.s. Mr Bernadi probably has a better commentary on the night, and a fine >chap also. > >* Majestic Theatre sits on the infamous Woodward Avenue. I believe some >time before the "Big One" (WWII) the Avenue was widened , which as a result >cut the Majestic almost in half. If you look up at the ceiling you can >still see the original ornate tiling and the center point of it is towards >the entrance of the building. Originally it was a movie and playhouse. It >sat vacant for decades. I think some time in the sixties they gutted all >of the seats and started doing shows again. I am guessing but it probably >holds around 600. Really tall ceilings with not a lot of depth. And as a >result the sound is awful. It bounces around in the worst way imagineable. > Recently they have done a major overhaul of the soundsystem and it is >much, much better. The venue has been open now (regularly) for the last 15 >years or so. Attached to it is the Magic Stick bar/concert venue and the >Garden Bowl which is one of Detroit's oldest Bowling Alleys. The Majestic >Theatre is also known as the last venue Houdini performed at before being >admitted to the hospital directly behind it where he passed away (from a >incident in Vancouver prior). I am not exact on my history but something >like that. > >>From: neilfperry@btinternet.com >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >>To: gathering@misera.net >>Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT) >> >>I was wondering the same... everyone wiped out in some sort >>of cataclysmic halloween gathering apocalypse? 'Hell night' in >>Detroit was always meant to be a bit scary, or so I've heard... >>N >> >> > from: death wish >> > date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:03:18 >> > to: gathering@misera.net >> > subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >> > >> > Dead quiet? What happened in Detroit? Or have I mysteriously fallen >>from the >> > list? >> > >> > T. >> > >> > >> > >From: "Christof hamille" >> > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> > >To: gathering@misera.net >> > >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >> > >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:10:38 -0500 >> > > >> > >Who is coming to this show. let me know and we will meet up. tix are >> > >$15.00 >> > > >> > > >> > >chris >> > > >> > > >> > >>From: matt_hawes@linpacmh.com >> > >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> > >>To: gathering@misera.net >> > >>Subject: Re: [kj] Liverpool show >> > >>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:18:04 -0400 >> > >> >> > >>Killing Joke in Detroit on Halloween, Freakin awesome, Im am there... >> > >> >> > >>MAtt >> > >> >> > >> "The information in this e-mail and any >> > >>attachments >> > >>to it are confidential. The contents may not be copied or used by >>anyone >> > >>other than the addressee and must not be further disclosed without >>our >> > >>permission. 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Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 2 22:13:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 23:13:31 +0100 Subject: [kj] NYC 2003 photos Message-ID: my fave as well.... dirk /only 7 weeks until the xmass break >From: "Alex Smith" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] NYC 2003 photos >Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:06:42 -0500 > > >Nicely done, man. > >I love how the girl in the background of this photo appreciates the idiocy >of the proceedings. > >http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/gang01.jpg > > >Believe it or not, I'll have more coming this week as well. Odd that short >a >comparitively short performance should be as well documented. > >Alex in NYC > > > >---------- > >From: The Exorcist > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: [kj] NYC 2003 photos > >Date: Sun, Nov 2, 2003, 3:58 PM > > > > >http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/ > > > >Above is The Link. > > > >Sorry for the crapp with all the marks (dust). > >I've come to the conclusion that it is time for a new camera. > >Feh! > >I didn't name them cuase I am in a wee bit of a hurry. > >Nevertheless. > >Enjoy! > > > >Sincerely, Man in need of new camera > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ NEU: Polyphone Klingeltöne und farbige Logos für Ihr Handy! http://polyphonetoene.handy.msn.de Jetzt Handy aufpeppen! From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 03:31:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dave Axford) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:31:43 -0500 Subject: [kj] NYC 2003 photos. Geordie's mop References: <13a901c3a185$9c7fa840$d9ad883e@mycomputer> Message-ID: <001d01c3a1bb$02011ed0$826f8a3f@Joker> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3A191.17FEA4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PM Subject: Re: [kj] NYC 2003 photos > has Geordie high lighted his hair? >=20 > http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/08.jpg >=20 Seems so. Just a few days later in Toronto his hair was solid platinum.=20 Dave ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3A191.17FEA4C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
PM
Subject: Re: [kj] NYC 2003 = photos

> has Geordie high lighted his hair?
> =
>=20 http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/08.jpg<= BR>>
Seems so. Just a few days later in = Toronto his hair=20 was solid platinum.
 
 
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3A191.17FEA4C0-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 03:43:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 22:43:12 EST Subject: [kj] Detroit - white hot Message-ID: <112.2aadc724.2cd728d0@aol.com> --part1_112.2aadc724.2cd728d0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just back from the airport from a whirlwind visit to all things Detroit and a perfect way to spend Halloween. Met up with some long lost fellow KJ devotees at the show and it may have been the best show I've seen on this tour (DC, Baltimore, aborted Philly). The sound was crisp-clear-and crushingly loud--but the venue accomodated the volume well. This set was dead on perfect. Seeing Red continues to be a fave - though my wife and I still wish they'd insert more new material into the set. Digging into the archives, they did Frenzy, and did it justice. Jaz was healthy and well into the proceedings and said after the show that he was feeling much better. I think this all bodes well for the rest of the tour. While I always have a fantastic time in Detroit, I do have to issue an all points bulletin spanking to the town for not showing up in more force. Promoters asleep at the wheel? If Killing Joke is doing a show in your town on Halloween night and the gig isn't sold out, then someone is clearly not on the ball. But-it did seem that people streamed in during the set and there was a nice turnout in the end. Visiting with the band before and after the set with friends and family, it did seem like all were in good spirits. Positive vibrations for the future on all fronts. For those Gatherers with a show date on the horizon: bring a friend--bring several--get the word out in your town and prime the pumps for these remaining dates. Here's to more in the future. --part1_112.2aadc724.2cd728d0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just back from the airport from a whirlwind visit to a= ll things Detroit and a perfect way to spend Halloween.

Met up with some long lost fellow KJ devotees at the show and it may have be= en the best show I've seen on this tour (DC, Baltimore, aborted Philly).&nbs= p; The sound was crisp-clear-and crushingly loud--but the venue accomodated=20= the volume well.    This set was dead on perfect.  Seein= g Red continues to be a fave - though my wife and I still wish they'd insert= more new material into the set.  Digging into the archives, they did F= renzy, and did it justice.  Jaz was healthy and well into the proceedin= gs and said after the show that he was feeling much better.   I th= ink this all bodes well for the rest of the tour. 

While I always have a fantastic time in Detroit, I do have to issue an all p= oints bulletin spanking to the town for not showing up in more force. &= nbsp; Promoters asleep at the wheel?  If Killing Joke is doing a show i= n your town on Halloween night and the gig isn't sold out, then someone is c= learly not on the ball.  But-it did seem that people streamed in during= the set and there was a nice turnout in the end.   Visiting with=20= the band before and after the set with friends and family, it did seem like=20= all were in good spirits.  Positive vibrations for the future on all fr= onts.  For those Gatherers with a show date on the horizon: bring a fri= end--bring several--get the word out in your town and prime the pumps for th= ese remaining dates.  Here's to more in the future. --part1_112.2aadc724.2cd728d0_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 09:33:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Ford Prefect) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:33:10 -0000 Subject: [kj] Detroit - white hot References: <112.2aadc724.2cd728d0@aol.com> Message-ID: <000901c3a1ed$7f8d17a0$627e9151@sn7212787026> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3A1ED.7EDEFD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just read gloomy reports from milwaukee no the message board. quite a = contrast to the detroit show by the sound of it, anyone here got = anything to say about it? graham ----- Original Message -----=20 From: FlumeDC@aol.com=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:43 AM Subject: [kj] Detroit - white hot Just back from the airport from a whirlwind visit to all things = Detroit and a perfect way to spend Halloween. Met up with some long lost fellow KJ devotees at the show and it may = have been the best show I've seen on this tour (DC, Baltimore, aborted = Philly). The sound was crisp-clear-and crushingly loud--but the venue = accomodated the volume well. This set was dead on perfect. Seeing = Red continues to be a fave - though my wife and I still wish they'd = insert more new material into the set. Digging into the archives, they = did Frenzy, and did it justice. Jaz was healthy and well into the = proceedings and said after the show that he was feeling much better. I = think this all bodes well for the rest of the tour. =20 While I always have a fantastic time in Detroit, I do have to issue an = all points bulletin spanking to the town for not showing up in more = force. Promoters asleep at the wheel? If Killing Joke is doing a show = in your town on Halloween night and the gig isn't sold out, then someone = is clearly not on the ball. But-it did seem that people streamed in = during the set and there was a nice turnout in the end. Visiting with = the band before and after the set with friends and family, it did seem = like all were in good spirits. Positive vibrations for the future on = all fronts. For those Gatherers with a show date on the horizon: bring = a friend--bring several--get the word out in your town and prime the = pumps for these remaining dates. Here's to more in the future. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3A1ED.7EDEFD50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
just read gloomy = reports from=20 milwaukee no the message board. quite a contrast to the detroit show by = the=20 sound of it, anyone here got=20 anything to say about it?
 
graham
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 FlumeDC@aol.com=20
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 = 3:43=20 AM
Subject: [kj] Detroit - white = hot

Just back from the airport from a whirlwind visit = to all=20 things Detroit and a perfect way to spend Halloween.

Met up = with some=20 long lost fellow KJ devotees at the show and it may have been the best = show=20 I've seen on this tour (DC, Baltimore, aborted Philly).  The = sound was=20 crisp-clear-and crushingly loud--but the venue accomodated the volume=20 well.    This set was dead on perfect.  Seeing Red = continues to be a fave - though my wife and I still wish they'd insert = more=20 new material into the set.  Digging into the archives, they did = Frenzy,=20 and did it justice.  Jaz was healthy and well into the = proceedings and=20 said after the show that he was feeling much better.   I = think this=20 all bodes well for the rest of the tour. 

While I always = have a=20 fantastic time in Detroit, I do have to issue an all points bulletin = spanking=20 to the town for not showing up in more force.   Promoters = asleep at=20 the wheel?  If Killing Joke is doing a show in your town on = Halloween=20 night and the gig isn't sold out, then someone is clearly not on the=20 ball.  But-it did seem that people streamed in during the set and = there=20 was a nice turnout in the end.   Visiting with the band = before and=20 after the set with friends and family, it did seem like all were in = good=20 spirits.  Positive vibrations for the future on all fronts.  = For=20 those Gatherers with a show date on the horizon: bring a friend--bring = several--get the word out in your town and prime the pumps for these = remaining=20 dates.  Here's to more in the future.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3A1ED.7EDEFD50-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 12:49:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:49:32 -0500 Subject: [kj] ILM on the Chicago Show Message-ID: <200311031250.hA3CoCgt011446@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> >From Mr.Diamond, one of the few regular posters to ILM with taste: "Alex, I honoured the fire last night!! I went to the Killing Joke show - they were great! It was a lot of fun, I'm glad I decided to go. I saw a bunch of my older friends who I hadn't seen in a while, old crusty veterans of Chicago rock. Funny how these older punk and post-punk groups seem to be the only thing that can get a certain segment out to shows these days (the Rocket From the Tombs show was the same way). So yeah, the band was fun. Geordie is definitely cool to watch - he plays with a lot of style. I just wish I could have heard him better! The sound was totally shit, but that's par for the course for the shitty Metro. It was all low end, the bass rumbling really sort of obliterated everything. And since Geordie so often plays in higher registers, a lot was lost. Still, his signature guitar tone was somewhat discernable and sounded great. Parsons sounded great - he fits with them; it was a natural choice, really. Coleman had the exact same get-up as in your pic up there. Raven was rocking the "Polizie" shirt. The setlist was like first album stuff every other song. 2nd was "Requiem", 4th was "Complications" and 6th was "Wardance". They played "The Wait" toward the end of the set. Um ... I don't remember everything else - I'm not hugely familiar with their stuff (haven't heard the new one yet, either) - but they definitely played "Kings and Queens" off Night Time (the only song from that lp, I'm pretty sure) and "The Fall of Because" from What's This For... The encore consisted of two songs ... neither of which I recognized....wait, I just checked AMG to look at their song titles and I think they probably played "Dregs" from Revelations (I don't own that lp). I thought they were saying "red!!" in the chorus, but I bet it was "dregs". So yeah, a good time was had by all. It's funny cuz as I was standing there watching the show with some buddies I was totally thinking that I probably wouldn't have made it out without your proselytizing. I was feeling kind of lazy. But I had never seen them before, and I haven't seen that many rock shows this year (like only 3 or 4!), and I was kind of in the mood to be rocked. And it did rock! Oh, and that opening band was HORRIBLE. Christ in heaven, were they bad. - Mr.D" From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 13:11:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stevie "workslave" Robinson) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:11:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] ILM on the Chicago Show Message-ID: <25622919.1067865093490.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> recognized....wait, I just checked AMG to look at their song titles and I think they probably played "Dregs" from Revelations (I don't own that lp). I thought they were saying "red!!" in the chorus, but I bet it was "dregs". Seeing Red? I wish it was Dregs! From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 13:58:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:58:47 -0600 Subject: [kj] Detroit - white hot In-Reply-To: <000901c3a1ed$7f8d17a0$627e9151@sn7212787026> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3150691128_20381197 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 11/3/03 3:33 AM, "Ford Prefect" wrote: > just read gloomy reports from milwaukee no the message board. quite a contrast > to the detroit show by the sound of it, anyone here got anything to say about > it? > > graham >> >> > Fucking hell, that does sound bad. Anyone here go to it? What happened???? It has been, by far, the most bizarre, fucked up weekend. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM --B_3150691128_20381197 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Detroit - white hot On 11/3/03 3:33 AM, &qu= ot;Ford Prefect" <woody2shooz@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

just read gloomy reports from milwaukee no the messag= e board. quite a contrast to the detroit show by the sound of it, anyone her= e got anything to say about it?
graham

 

Fucking hell, that does sound bad. Anyone here go to it? What happened??= ??


It has been, by far, the most bizarre, fucked up weekend.

KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HO= NOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM --B_3150691128_20381197-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 14:13:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:13:13 -0500 Subject: [kj] ILM on the Chicago Show Message-ID: <3BCC0330.2E385891.398839F0@aol.com> It was surely not "Dregs" (just kind of a jam tune, plus they never play anything off "Revelations". It was "Seeing Red", a good anti-war song from the new LP, where he sings "Red" 4 times in the chorus. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 14:25:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:25:42 -0000 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCCF@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A216.5CCCBC64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It does sound like it wasn't their best show. This was posted on the NMA = noticeboard: "I just got back from seeing the Killing Joke at the Rave in Milwaukee, = Wisconsin. Last time I saw them was in 1989 in Chicago! I was so excited = to see them but I have to tell you, it was the worst show I have ever = seen. First off, the crowd consisted of only about 75 people. Maybe that = had something to do with their attitudes. They made us wait quite a long = time before they came out. Then they got on stage and made some rude = remarks about Americans. They never broke a sweat during the show. The = sound was terrible! You couldn't even hear Jaz's voice; you really = couldn't hear him at all, literally, half of the time. They weren't even = on stage for 45 minutes. When they were done they just walked off, = leaving the stage w/o any words. They didn't play an encore. Everyone, = and I mean everyone, left disappointed. Most were very vocal about it. I = am so disappointed as they are a great band and I had heard so many good = reviews. Did anyone else have a similar experience with them?" 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Marc > -----Original Message----- > From: GregSlawson@aol.com [SMTP:GregSlawson@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:13 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] ILM on the Chicago Show > > It was surely not "Dregs" (just kind of a jam tune, plus they never play > anything off "Revelations". It was "Seeing Red", a good anti-war song from > the new LP, where he sings "Red" 4 times in the chorus. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 14:53:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:53:16 -0500 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? Message-ID: <00A77BC4.3EF9345E.00166308@aol.com> In a message dated 11/3/2003 9:25:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, jane.shadforth@shell.com writes: > it was the worst show I have ever seen. First off, the crowd consisted of only about 75 people. Maybe that had something to do with their attitudes. They made us wait quite a long time before they came out. Then they got on stage and made some rude remarks about Americans. They never broke a sweat during the show. The sound was terrible! You couldn't even hear Jaz's voice; you really couldn't hear him at all, literally, half of the time. They weren't even on stage for 45 minutes. When they were done they just walked off, leaving the stage w/o any words. They didn't play an encore. Everyone, and I mean everyone, left disappointed. Most were very vocal about it. I am so disappointed as they are a great band and I had heard so many good reviews. Did anyone else have a similar > experience with them?" Sounds a bit like the DC show, but I dont think the DC show was quite as bad. One thing I will say is that I felt dissapointed and felt bad for the band that at this stage in their careers they are playing to 75-150 people in these small ass clubs. Someone mentioned next time KJ plays that we need to try to drum up people to go. It would be nice to not have to do this and there be a bit more promo over their shows. There was someone who I have been preaching the Joke glories to for sometime and so he went to the DC show. He pretty much thought they were a Joke alright. I felt bad, but oh well. With that show Jaz was sick and it just wasnt one of their best showings. Everyone is allowed that. Ive seen some great shows of theirs and not holding it against them. I just hope next go around they try for a bit more production- bring back the light show, stage fog and fire breathers. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 15:10:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:10:05 -0500 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? Message-ID: <52839592.363DB84B.398839F0@aol.com> VGhlIHJlYWwgcHJvYmxlbSB3L3RoZSBVUyBzaG93cyBzZWVtcyB0byBiZSBNVFYvcmFkaW8u IEkga25vdyBzb21lb25lIHdobyB3YXMgYXQgdGhlaXIgTG9uZG9uIHNob3cgKGFuZCBhbHNv IHRoZSBCb3N0b24gb25lKSBhbmQgdGhlIExvbmRvbiBjcm93ZCBmaWxsZWQgYSBiaWcgdGhl YXRyZSBhbmQgd2FzIGVudGh1c2lhc3RpYy4gSW4gQm9zdG9uLCBvbmx5IGFib3V0IDE1MCBs b25nLXRpbWUgZmFucyBzaG93ZWQgdXAsIHRoZSBzb3VuZCB3YXNuJ3QgZ29vZCwgYW5kIHRo ZXkgb25seSBoYWQgdGltZSBmb3Igb25lIHNvbmcgZm9yIGEgMm5kIGVuY29yZSAoaXQgd2Fz ICJQYW5kZW1vbml1bSIsIHdoaWNoIEpheiBpbnRyb2VkIGJ5IHNheWluZyAiV2UndmUgb25s eSBnb3QgdGltZSBmb3Igb25lIG1vcmUsIExldCdzIHBhcnR5IikuIE15IHBvaW50IGlzLCB0 aGF0IGF0IGxlYXN0IGluIHRoZSBVUywgbW9yZSBwZW9wbGUgd291bGQgc2hvdyB1cCBpdCB0 aGUgY29ycG9yYXRlIHJhZGlvIHN0YXRpb25zIGFjdHVhbGx5IHBsYXllZCB0aGUgYmFuZC4g TmV2ZXIgbWluZCB0aGF0IGF0IGxlYXN0IDUwJSBvZiB3aGF0IHRoZSBETyBwbGF5IHdhcyBp bmZsdWVuY2VkIGJ5IEtKLCBidXQgaXQgYSBiYW5kIGlzIG5vdCBwYXJ0IG9mIHRoZSBsYXRl c3QgbWFya2V0aW5nIHRyZW5kLCB0aGV5IGRvbid0IGhhdmUgYSBjaGFuY2UuIFJpZ2h0IG5v dyBldmVyeXRoaW5nIHNlZW1zIHRvIHNvdW5kIGxpa2UgR29vZCBDaGFybG90dGUgKHdobyBj b3BpZWQgR3JlZW4gRGF5LCB3aG8gY29waWVkIHRoZSBSYW1vbmVzKS4gQSBmZXcgeWVhcnMg YWdvLCBpdCB3YXMgdGhlIExpbXAgQml6a2l0IHBob25leSByYXAtbWV0YWwgc291bmQsIGFu ZCBhIGZldyB5ZWFycyBiZWZvcmUgdGhhdCBldmVyeW9uZSBzb3VuZGVkIGxpa2UgU291bmRn YXJkZW4gYW5kIE5pcnZhbmEuIFRoZXNlIGNvcnBvcmF0ZSByYWRpbyBhbmQgTVRWIHdob3Jl cyBoYXZlIG5vIHJlc3BlY3QgZm9yIHRoZSBvcmlnaW5zIG9mIHRoZXNlIGJhbmRzIGVpdGhl ci4gVGhhdCdzIHdoeSBpdCdzIGltcG9ydGFudCBmb3IgdXMgdG8gdGVsbCBwZW9wbGUgYWJv dXQgS0ohCg== From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 15:11:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Nika) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:11:16 +0100 Subject: [kj] Year Of The Devil to be screened in Nottingham (16/11/03) Message-ID: <20031103151118Z115897-28706+89016@mail.centrum.cz> >Is this > film out on DVD or VHS though? > > Bob > Yes it is in the Czech republic both on DVD and VHS, don't if they have it anywhere else though. The DVD extended version is even better than the original. Nika -------------------- IDOS - jízdní øády - Vyhledání spojení vlakem, busem i MHD. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 15:18:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:18:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? In-Reply-To: <52839592.363DB84B.398839F0@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031103151851.56124.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> I don't think ANYTHING on the radio right now sounds like it was influenced by Killing Joke. If it was, it might be at least halfway tolerable. Good Charlotte, Nickelback, Linkin Park? You think those fuckers have any IDEA who Killing Joke are? Impossible. Bands like KJ have absolutely no niche in commercial radio and MTV these days. It's just a barren, unable to accomodate anything worthwhile, wasteland. At this point, they really are going on word of mouth and cred alone. So it really is up to us to spread the word. Leigh --- GregSlawson@aol.com wrote: > The real problem w/the US shows seems to be > MTV/radio. I know someone who was at their London > show (and also the Boston one) and the London crowd > filled a big theatre and was enthusiastic. In > Boston, only about 150 long-time fans showed up, the > sound wasn't good, and they only had time for one > song for a 2nd encore (it was "Pandemonium", which > Jaz introed by saying "We've only got time for one > more, Let's party"). My point is, that at least in > the US, more people would show up it the corporate > radio stations actually played the band. Never mind > that at least 50% of what the DO play was influenced > by KJ, but it a band is not part of the latest > marketing trend, they don't have a chance. Right now > everything seems to sound like Good Charlotte (who > copied Green Day, who copied the Ramones). A few > years ago, it was the Limp Bizkit phoney rap-metal > sound, and a few years before that everyone sounded > like Soundgarden and Nirvana. These corporate radio > and MTV whores have no respect for the origins of > these bands either. That's why it's important for us > to tell people about KJ! > «az¸§‚f¢–)à–+-«az¸§‚h¬z¶§zØm¶Ÿÿ~‹«¥¨«–+-뙨¥™©ÿ–+-Šwèþ­…êâž ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 15:25:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Joachim Plorin) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Minneapolis Message-ID: <20031103152502.95122.qmail@web12604.mail.yahoo.com> Woo-hoo! Less than 12 hours before the Joke go on. Look for the three people coughing their lungs out in the front row at the Fine Line...that's us. J ===== Dragnet Drag - the Peter Murphy Information Site http://www.angelfire.com/music2/petermurphy/ "poetry-free since 1999!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 15:29:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:29:33 -0500 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? Message-ID: <5EF13E3A.315577D3.398839F0@aol.com> No, I wasn't saying that Good Charlotte or any of those band were infl. by KJ. But many bands are--Nirvana and their clones, NIN, etc. I don't even like these bands, even though I love KJ--just goes to show that an original can't be beat. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 15:30:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:30:50 +0100 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? Message-ID: <691fd946924fa8.6924fa8691fd94@iol.cz> The problem though is also the fact that the band always make long breaks= in its existence=2E Corporate total control over music production is a f= act=2C but =22objective reality=22 (absolutely unjust to really influenci= al bands that made difference to popular music)=2E=2E=2E still some good = bands are able to get played=2E but not if they have a break in their app= earance of 8 years or so=2E = Here in Czech Republic is another problem that mayn young people who woul= d be interested in Killing Joke music and gigs cannot afford a ticket for= 18 USD=2E This is enourmous sum of money for young people=2E I can handl= e it since I am working=2C but those who are at school can only afford it= if they have quite rich parents=2E No wonder that the gig was rather ful= l of total fans and nostalgists like myself=2E I have seen at the gig mos= tly old faces that I knew from various alternative and goth parties and g= igs in early 1990s=2E But days after the gig when I went to local pub where many teenagers go a= nd said I was at KJ gig=2E Couple of them were very enthusiastic about it= =2E (after the question about how much was a ticket they usually sadly sa= id =22I could not go anyway=22)=2E Pavel=2C Praha ----- P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va ----- Od=3A Leigh Newton =3Cmorbidflorist=40yahoo=2Ecom=3E Datum=3A pond=ECl=ED=2C 3=2E listopadu 2003 v 4=3A18 odp P=F8edm=ECt=3A Re=3A =5Bkj=5D Milwaukee=3F=3F =3E I don=27t think ANYTHING on the radio right = =3E now sounds =3E like it was influenced by Killing Joke=2E If = =3E it was=2C it =3E might be at least halfway tolerable=2E Good = =3E Charlotte=2CNickelback=2C Linkin Park=3F You think = =3E those fuckers have =3E any IDEA who Killing Joke are=3F Impossible=2E = =3E Bands like =3E KJ have absolutely no niche in commercial = =3E radio and =3E MTV these days=2E It=27s just a barren=2C unable to =3E accomodate anything worthwhile=2C wasteland=2E = =3E At this =3E point=2C they really are going on word of = =3E mouth and cred =3E alone=2E So it really is up to us to spread = =3E the word=2E = =3E = =3E Leigh =3E = =3E --- GregSlawson=40aol=2Ecom wrote=3A =3E =3E The real problem w/the US shows seems to be =3E =3E MTV/radio=2E I know someone who was at their = =3E London=3E show (and also the Boston one) and = =3E the London crowd =3E =3E filled a big theatre and was enthusiastic=2E In =3E =3E Boston=2C only about 150 long-time fans = =3E showed up=2C the =3E =3E sound wasn=27t good=2C and they only had time = =3E for one =3E =3E song for a 2nd encore (it was = =3E =22Pandemonium=22=2C which =3E =3E Jaz introed by saying =22We=27ve only got time = =3E for one =3E =3E more=2C Let=27s party=22)=2E My point is=2C that at = =3E least in =3E =3E the US=2C more people would show up it the = =3E corporate=3E radio stations actually played = =3E the band=2E Never mind =3E =3E that at least 50=25 of what the DO play was = =3E influenced=3E by KJ=2C but it a band is not part = =3E of the latest =3E =3E marketing trend=2C they don=27t have a chance=2E = =3E Right now =3E =3E everything seems to sound like Good = =3E Charlotte (who =3E =3E copied Green Day=2C who copied the Ramones)=2E = =3E A few =3E =3E years ago=2C it was the Limp Bizkit phoney = =3E rap-metal =3E =3E sound=2C and a few years before that = =3E everyone sounded =3E =3E like Soundgarden and Nirvana=2E These = =3E corporate radio =3E =3E and MTV whores have no respect for the = =3E origins of =3E =3E these bands either=2E That=27s why it=27s = =3E important for us =3E =3E to tell people about KJ! =3E =3E =3E =19=3Faz=B8=A7=3Ff=3F=3F)=3F=3F+-=19=3Faz=B8=A7=3Fh=3Fz=3F=A7z=3Fm=3F= =3F=3F=7E=3F=3F=3F=A8=3F=3F+- =3E =3F=EB=3F=3F=A8=3F=3F=3F=3F=3F+-=3Fw=3F=3F=06=AD=3F=3F=E2=3F =3E = =3E = =3E =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3E http=3A//www=2Edaiquiri=2Etvheaven=2Ecom =3E http=3A//www=2Etweek=2Etvheaven=2Ecom =3E http=3A//www=2Emp3=2Ecom/tweek =3E http=3A//www=2Emp3=2Ecom/green=5Flung =3E = =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E Do you Yahoo!=3F =3E Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears =3E http=3A//launch=2Eyahoo=2Ecom/promos/britneyspears/ =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E Gathering mailing list =3E Gathering=40misera=2Enet =3E http=3A//four=2Epairlist=2Enet/mailman/listinfo/gathering =3E From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 15:36:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fat potanga) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:36:14 +0000 Subject: [kj] What's THIS artwork Message-ID: Colesy.... been meaning to ask this for aaages but keep forgetting. A while ago you mentioned that you were disappointed with how the a/w for WTF came out. What did you have in mind....? _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 15:40:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:40:49 -0600 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? In-Reply-To: <52839592.363DB84B.398839F0@aol.com> Message-ID: No offence Greg, but you have completely and utterly missed the point here. A lot of radio stations, er... DJ's here, don't have a fucking clue who the Joke are. Those that do, think the last album they released was Extremities= . Imagine their surprise to hear there is a new one, with Grohl on it. To get the stations to play it, you have to get off your arse and get some pub out there. Zuma and Big Life have failed time and time again at this. Like a bunch of 15 year olds, smoking a joint in the basement, on moms computer, going "do you think we need to make a poster?" "Nah man, this shit sells itself." Clueless fucking idiots, with egos the size of fucking Russia. Not a good mix. It is one thing to be a bumbling, stupid, ass hole and know it, but these clowns actually think they do a good job. On 11/3/03 9:10 AM, "GregSlawson@aol.com" wrote: > The real problem w/the US shows seems to be MTV/radio. I know someone who= was > at their London show (and also the Boston one) and the London crowd fille= d a > big theatre and was enthusiastic. In Boston, only about 150 long-time fan= s > showed up, the sound wasn't good, and they only had time for one song for= a > 2nd encore (it was "Pandemonium", which Jaz introed by saying "We've only= got > time for one more, Let's party"). My point is, that at least in the US, m= ore > people would show up it the corporate radio stations actually played the = band. > Never mind that at least 50% of what the DO play was influenced by KJ, bu= t it > a band is not part of the latest marketing trend, they don't have a chanc= e. > Right now everything seems to sound like Good Charlotte (who copied Green= Day, > who copied the Ramones). A few years ago, it was the Limp Bizkit phoney > rap-metal sound, and a few years before that everyone sounded like Soundg= arden > and Nirvana. These corporate radio and MTV whores have no respect for the > origins of these bands either. That's why it's important for us to tell p= eople > about=20 > KJ! =19=ABaz=B8=A7=80 =9A=8AX=A7=80 b=B2=D0=06j=D8^=AE)=E0=02h=ACz=B6=80=9D=EB@=86=DBi=03=FF > =DF=A2=EA=C0=A5=A8=AB=96+-=02w=AD=FEf=A2=96f=A7=FEX=AC=B6)=DF=A3=F8=1A=B6=17=AB=8Ax KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 15:42:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:42:23 -0000 Subject: [kj] What's THIS artwork Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0E3@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >What did you have in mind....? Kittens . .. Kittens dancing if flower filled fields with an orchestra of lemurs playing in the background . . :o) > -----Original Message----- > From: fat potanga [SMTP:fatpotanga@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:36 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: [kj] What's THIS artwork > > Colesy.... > > been meaning to ask this for aaages but keep forgetting. > > A while ago you mentioned that you were disappointed with how the a/w for > WTF came out. > What did you have in mind....? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 16:39:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:39:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm Message-ID: <20031103163941.B9C28393A@sitemail.everyone.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1067877581-27315-0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't like this. You say this came from the NMA board, but I saw the exact same post at one of the KJ message boards. This person is just doing the rounds. OK, Killing Joke had an bad day at the office, very sorry but this person claims to be a fan. This doesn't seem like fan behaviour. Complain to Killing Joke via one of the websites, but this pointless slagging is a waste of time. --- "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" wrote: It does sound like it wasn't their best show. This was posted on the NMA noticeboard: "I just got back from seeing the Killing Joke at the Rave in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Last time I saw them was in 1989 in Chicago! I was so excited to see them but I have to tell you, it was the worst show I have ever seen. First off, the crowd consisted of only about 75 people. Maybe that had something to do with their attitudes. They made us wait quite a long time before they came out. Then they got on stage and made some rude remarks about Americans. They never broke a sweat during the show. The sound was terrible! You couldn't even hear Jaz's voice; you really couldn't hear him at all, literally, half of the time. They weren't even on stage for 45 minutes. When they were done they just walked off, leaving the stage w/o any words. They didn't play an encore. Everyone, and I mean everyone, left disappointed. Most were very vocal about it. I am so disappointed as they are a great band and I had heard so many good reviews. Did anyone else have a similar experience with them?" I'm glad we didn't get any shows like that in the UK, Jane _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) ------------=_1067877581-27315-0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IisOAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcA GAAAAElQTS5NaWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEE gAEADAAAAE1pbHdhdWtlZT8/ACIEAQWAAwAOAAAA0wcLAAMADgAZACoAAQA6 AQEggAMADgAAANMHCwADAA4AGQAqAAEAOgEBCYABACEAAABERkEyM0ZFM0JE ODUxMDQ0ODMyODdBRTZCOUMyQTk3NQBIBwEDkAYACAkAADAAAAALAAIAAQAA AAMAJgAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkAZLzMXBaiwwEeAD0AAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAA AgFHAAEAAAA2AAAAYz1XVzthPTQwME5FVDtwPVNIRUxMO2w9V1lULVMtMDE4 LTAzMTEwMzE0MjU0MlotNDY0MDIAAAAeAHAAAQAAAAwAAABNaWx3YXVrZWU/ PwACAXEAAQAAABYAAAABw6IWWjzPwy5XqAxFqL7BsAhmpv7RAAAeABoMAQAA ACAAAABTaGFkZm9ydGgsIEphbmUgRSBTVUtPUC1VT0lULzQyAB4AHQ4BAAAA DAAAAE1pbHdhdWtlZT8/AAIBCRABAAAA8AMAAOwDAACCBQAATFpGdXWrXXQD AAoAcmNwZzEyNSYyAPgLYG5nAdA1N08B9wKkA+MCAGNoCsBz8GV0MCAHEwKD AFADVB8QyQdtAoMOUBBmcHJxKxSBEO59CoF2CJB3a+kLgGQ0DGBjAFALAwu1 pCBJBUBkbweRcwhgARcgIGxpa2UgaUEFQHdhc24nBUB0aGhlaQXAYgeQBUBz 0Ghvdy4TMGgEABnC2CBwbxrACYAgAiAaMoEHsE1BIG5vdA3g9mUG4AsROgqi CoQKhAswkHNiMTABQHNhHwEsICIR8wvwNBhgIGo6dRrBZx0QGpAA0GsgrwNS GOAJ4AuAZxxzSwMQ0xlQIdFKbxlxYRojB/BsYXYZgQOgTQMQGdB14RlwZSwg VwQABaAAgfpuGzBMGeAaIQdxIDEfQB8H4BpBIXAboiPRMTk4SjkjwkMbYGNh ILAhhyAxG6IY8CBleGMZoJ0cIXQooCGRJlRidQVAPyBAEPAjoSlBHBAiYCB5 7whgJJAZpBxzdwWwGsUqNt5lI6AFwCGRJTFGGnAawf5vASAkkByCBQAbEBkw JOPlHARmHEFseSMABuAqEaQ3NRvQZW8LUGUbMPhNYXkaoBoxIxEQ8Bkw/xjw B4AaQCHDKKAYoBnAGaBOaBo1IxAdIHR1AQBz3RsyZTBQAMABACAgcBnB+Rmh cXUo8SMAGUACICHh/yXCGqACEAlwGjIwUCfQJdH/MJE0sxxjMFAgshxRGsAn 4M8i8RkhNSMyciByNHE6sNsmgArAawQgMHRBB4AFENcn0ACANLVuLVNiA2Ai 4ukY4HdlIxFkCHEh1Rr2vzpSGRIrswSQBRACYGUoEMZZCGAvQXVsZBoCLVGH A6AaUArBSmF6JwQg9HZvHTE7KyI7AQdAMEH/QQdB4xtgIXAjEUNhJJAZUO9A IUNiJJAQ8GwwATAAHIJ/JbI0tT3gCXBBVzlXNzEgujQw4G0LgCoQNJJXOIe/ R3IYkTzwN3QgYxnQbBlwPy/SLoExQCOQPmc5k3cvLyigAHBHUQWwZDSmZGl/ QUMLUTBRA6AJ8AWhMVFF/y1hKzA88CSQOeIgQAeAT5LfUFcxQAGATsEfQHAb 4AuA/xwRMWEb8UpkUFJCgSfQAyD/MHQZoBswIEA34CiCUoojAP8r0zBRN1E2 UAnBIxEg8Bkh/1DkMjJB4jJSNRFN4SCwBHD3OwEWwjShRE7gTcJK0irw/xEg KlQ9sQdwAxAKwSjAMQDPCIFP0CwRM4VtPx+gHdStInFlFGQYQichcGcLYP8/ wUqhTuQ5sEThTeEa8gQgzxlTMeMj0RyCVUskkEIwv15yH9QeKgu2HdMWgQBl EB4ANRABAAAARAAAADw0RTFCNjgyREVEQzRFQjQwOUQ1MjJDNDcxRTUyN0RD RjYyQ0NDRkB3eXQtcy0wMTguZXVyb3BlLnNoZWxsLmNvbT4AAwCAEP////8f APMQAQAAACgAAABNAGkAbAB3AGEAdQBrAGUAZQAlADMARgAlADMARgAuAEUA TQBMAAAACwD2EAAAAABAAAcwTq5LEhaiwwFAAAgwDEbWXBaiwwEDAN4/r28A AAMA8T8JBAAAHgD4PwEAAAAgAAAAU2hhZGZvcnRoLCBKYW5lIEUgU1VLT1At VU9JVC81MgACAfk/AQAAAEQAAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgAKy/hggEAAAAA AAAAL089U0hFTEwvT1U9T1BFL0NOPVJFQ0lQSUVOVFMvQ049V1lKU0g5AB4A +j8BAAAAFQAAAFN5c3RlbSBBZG1pbmlzdHJhdG9yAAAAAAIB+z8BAAAAHgAA AAAAAADcp0DIwEIQGrS5CAArL+GCAQAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAwD9P+QEAAADABlA AAAAAAMAGkAAAAAAHgAwQAEAAAAHAAAAV1lKU0g5AAAeADFAAQAAAAcAAABX WUpTSDkAAB4AOEABAAAABwAAAFdZSlNIOQAAHgA5QAEAAAACAAAALgAAAAMA CVkDAAAACwBYgQggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAADoUAAAAAAAADAHCBCCAG AAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABShQAANW8BAB4AcYEIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABG AAAAAFSFAAABAAAABAAAADkuMAADALiBCCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAB hQAAAAAAAAsAvYEIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAOFAAAAAAAAAwDCgQgg BgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEYUAAAAAAAADAMeBCCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAA RgAAAAAQhQAAAAAAAAMAzoEIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABiFAAAAAAAA CwDkgQggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAABoUAAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAsAIwAA AAAAAwAGEDYBj5oDAAcQfAMAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUA AABJVERPRVNTT1VORExJS0VJVFdBU05UVEhFSVJCRVNUU0hPV1RISVNXQVNQ T1NURURPTlRIRU5NQU5PVElDRUJPQVJEOiJJSlVTVEdPVEJBQ0tGUk9NU0VF SU5HVEhFS0lMTElOAAAAAAIBfwABAAAARAAAADw0RTFCNjgyREVEQzRFQjQw OUQ1MjJDNDcxRTUyN0RDRjYyQ0NDRkB3eXQtcy0wMTguZXVyb3BlLnNoZWxs LmNvbT4AKTc= ------------=_1067877581-27315-0-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 16:50:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:50:43 -0500 Subject: [kj] Minneapolis Message-ID: <4644FD01.5ED87C8E.398839F0@aol.com> What city are you in? From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 16:51:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:51:03 -0600 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: <20031103163941.B9C28393A@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: On 11/3/03 10:39 AM, "Rob's Arse" wrote: > I don't like this. You say this came from the NMA board, but I saw the ex= act > same post at one of the KJ message boards. This person is just doing the > rounds. OK, Killing Joke had an bad day at the office, very sorry but thi= s > person claims to be a fan. This doesn't seem like fan behaviour. Very true. I am not doubting this happened, but if you have seen enough shows in life, you realize bands sometimes have off nights. Oh well, ya had a bad day, see ya next time round, and move on. > Complain to=20 > Killing Joke via one of the websites, Oh dear god no...please no...I don=B9t want to hear it. Also...Would not be a good decision for a fan to complain to me about a show. For one, I wont get to go to any of the Joke tour in the US, and for another thing, I had to help move my mom & step dad this weekend, and about got into a fist fight with my uncle during the move. I am not in the best o= f moods today, to deal with a fan who happened to see a bad show. Boo fucking hoo on them. <----see, a bad day at the office > but this pointless slagging is a waste > of time. Especially when you consider the band themselves. Like this shit would make a difference. A true Joker would know this. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 16:59:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:59:36 -0500 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? Message-ID: <57E2DD7A.24D352DC.398839F0@aol.com> True, and the DJs are given lists of songs they HAVE to play. So if the record companies are not doing their job, it's a lost cause. But the radio station CEOs are the ones who make these decisions about what to play. And fewer and fewer companies own these big stations--there was just a bill to curb ownership of the media by fewer companies in the US, but it did not pass. I think the right-wing Clear Channel Co. owns 35% of the market! Greg From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 17:05:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:05:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: <20031103163941.B9C28393A@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20031103170521.85196.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> It could be that he felt that the band put in a lacklustre performance due to the shitty attendance that night. if so, then i'd say that's grounds for being pissed off. Leigh --- Rob's Arse wrote: > I don't like this. You say this came from the NMA > board, but I saw the exact same post at one of the > KJ message boards. This person is just doing the > rounds. OK, Killing Joke had an bad day at the > office, very sorry but this person claims to be a > fan. This doesn't seem like fan behaviour. Complain > to Killing Joke via one of the websites, but this > pointless slagging is a waste of time. > > > --- "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" > wrote: > It does sound like it wasn't their best show. This > was posted on the NMA noticeboard: > > "I just got back from seeing the Killing Joke at the > Rave in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Last time I saw them > was in 1989 in Chicago! I was so excited to see them > but I have to tell you, it was the worst show I have > ever seen. First off, the crowd consisted of only > about 75 people. Maybe that had something to do with > their attitudes. They made us wait quite a long time > before they came out. Then they got on stage and > made some rude remarks about Americans. They never > broke a sweat during the show. The sound was > terrible! You couldn't even hear Jaz's voice; you > really couldn't hear him at all, literally, half of > the time. They weren't even on stage for 45 minutes. > When they were done they just walked off, leaving > the stage w/o any words. They didn't play an encore. > Everyone, and I mean everyone, left disappointed. > Most were very vocal about it. I am so disappointed > as they are a great band and I had heard so many > good reviews. Did anyone else have a similar > experience with them?" > > I'm glad we didn't get any shows like that in the > UK, Jane > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/ms-tnef name=winmail.dat ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 17:10:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:10:05 -0000 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCD5@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> I'm not condoning the posting of bad reviews all over the place, but I = guess this is a natural reaction to the disappointment the lady must = have felt having paid good money to go and see a favourite band who she = had very high expectations of that didn't deliver. Sure bands have off = days, and to be fair, she has acknowledged this in saying that they are = "a great band" and that she had "heard so many good reviews". Her posts = might not make a difference, but I guess she's just getting her = disappointment off her chest. Off days or not, however, it is not the punters' fault if gigs are not = well promoted, and imo the few that do make the effort to turn out for = underpromoted shows deserve a good show just as much as those who are = lucky enough to catch a full-house. If Big Life & Zuma are not doing = their job, (and it sounds like they haven't been), the band shouldn't = take it out on the few fans that do make the effort to turn out to see = them. If they instead gave those few fans a good show, they will tell = their friends, and maybe next time around the crowd will be a little = larger. =20 Maybe I'm over simplifying things - it sounds like there were technical = problems if the sound was that bad, but I can't help thinking they = didn't really put the effort in because of the poor sales, which is = "jolly bad form" imo. Jane -----Original Message----- From: Jester [mailto:webmaster@killing-joke.com] Sent: 03 November 2003 16:51 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm On 11/3/03 10:39 AM, "Rob's Arse" wrote: > I don't like this. You say this came from the NMA board, but I saw the = exact > same post at one of the KJ message boards. This person is just doing = the > rounds. OK, Killing Joke had an bad day at the office, very sorry but = this > person claims to be a fan. This doesn't seem like fan behaviour. Very true. I am not doubting this happened, but if you have seen enough shows in life, you realize bands sometimes have off nights. Oh well, ya = had a bad day, see ya next time round, and move on. > Complain to=20 > Killing Joke via one of the websites, Oh dear god no...please no...I don=B9t want to hear it. Also...Would not be a good decision for a fan to complain to me about a show. For one, I wont get to go to any of the Joke tour in the US, and = for another thing, I had to help move my mom & step dad this weekend, and = about got into a fist fight with my uncle during the move. I am not in the = best of moods today, to deal with a fan who happened to see a bad show. Boo = fucking hoo on them. <----see, a bad day at the office > but this pointless slagging is a waste > of time. Especially when you consider the band themselves. Like this shit would = make a difference. A true Joker would know this. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 17:22:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:22:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCD5@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> Message-ID: <20031103172241.67094.qmail@web10408.mail.yahoo.com> YES! Exactly what i was getting at. Very well said, Jane. If one person comes, if 10 people come, if 100 come, if 1000 come, you should always try and put in a good show. The diehards shouldn't have to suffer because of lack of promotion, or even lack of interest. Anyways, what does an "off-day" really amount to when you're in a band, a fairly successful band, no less? Can't be all that bad. Leigh --- "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" wrote: > I'm not condoning the posting of bad reviews all > over the place, but I guess this is a natural > reaction to the disappointment the lady must have > felt having paid good money to go and see a > favourite band who she had very high expectations of > that didn't deliver. Sure bands have off days, and > to be fair, she has acknowledged this in saying that > they are "a great band" and that she had "heard so > many good reviews". Her posts might not make a > difference, but I guess she's just getting her > disappointment off her chest. > > Off days or not, however, it is not the punters' > fault if gigs are not well promoted, and imo the few > that do make the effort to turn out for > underpromoted shows deserve a good show just as much > as those who are lucky enough to catch a full-house. > If Big Life & Zuma are not doing their job, (and it > sounds like they haven't been), the band shouldn't > take it out on the few fans that do make the effort > to turn out to see them. If they instead gave those > few fans a good show, they will tell their friends, > and maybe next time around the crowd will be a > little larger. > > Maybe I'm over simplifying things - it sounds like > there were technical problems if the sound was that > bad, but I can't help thinking they didn't really > put the effort in because of the poor sales, which > is "jolly bad form" imo. > > Jane > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jester [mailto:webmaster@killing-joke.com] > Sent: 03 November 2003 16:51 > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm > > > On 11/3/03 10:39 AM, "Rob's Arse" > wrote: > > > I don't like this. You say this came from the NMA > board, but I saw the exact > > same post at one of the KJ message boards. This > person is just doing the > > rounds. OK, Killing Joke had an bad day at the > office, very sorry but this > > person claims to be a fan. This doesn't seem like > fan behaviour. > > Very true. I am not doubting this happened, but if > you have seen enough > shows in life, you realize bands sometimes have off > nights. Oh well, ya had > a bad day, see ya next time round, and move on. > > > Complain to > > Killing Joke via one of the websites, > > Oh dear god no...please no...I don¹t want to hear > it. > > Also...Would not be a good decision for a fan to > complain to me about a > show. For one, I wont get to go to any of the Joke > tour in the US, and for > another thing, I had to help move my mom & step dad > this weekend, and about > got into a fist fight with my uncle during the move. > I am not in the best of > moods today, to deal with a fan who happened to see > a bad show. Boo fucking > hoo on them. <----see, a bad day at the office > > > but this pointless slagging is a waste > > of time. > > Especially when you consider the band themselves. > Like this shit would make > a difference. A true Joker would know this. > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 17:46:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:46:13 -0600 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: <20031103172241.67094.qmail@web10408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Should-a, would-a, could-a.... All great in this nice fuzzy, touchy feely world we can create in our minds. But! This is not human nature. If your boss tells you he is going to pay you $100.00 a day, then cuts it to $40.00 a day, would you still do the same quality of work? Not many people would. Fuck, one bad show, and people lose their minds. I bet none of those that complain have EVER had a bad day. On 11/3/03 11:22 AM, "Leigh Newton" wrote: > YES! Exactly what i was getting at. Very well said, > Jane. If one person comes, if 10 people come, if 100 > come, if 1000 come, you should always try and put in a > good show. The diehards shouldn't have to suffer > because of lack of promotion, or even lack of > interest. Anyways, what does an "off-day" really > amount to when you're in a band, a fairly successful > band, no less? Can't be all that bad. > > Leigh > > --- "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" > wrote: >> I'm not condoning the posting of bad reviews all >> over the place, but I guess this is a natural >> reaction to the disappointment the lady must have >> felt having paid good money to go and see a >> favourite band who she had very high expectations of >> that didn't deliver. Sure bands have off days, and >> to be fair, she has acknowledged this in saying that >> they are "a great band" and that she had "heard so >> many good reviews". Her posts might not make a >> difference, but I guess she's just getting her >> disappointment off her chest. >> >> Off days or not, however, it is not the punters' >> fault if gigs are not well promoted, and imo the few >> that do make the effort to turn out for >> underpromoted shows deserve a good show just as much >> as those who are lucky enough to catch a full-house. >> If Big Life & Zuma are not doing their job, (and it >> sounds like they haven't been), the band shouldn't >> take it out on the few fans that do make the effort >> to turn out to see them. If they instead gave those >> few fans a good show, they will tell their friends, >> and maybe next time around the crowd will be a >> little larger. >> >> Maybe I'm over simplifying things - it sounds like >> there were technical problems if the sound was that >> bad, but I can't help thinking they didn't really >> put the effort in because of the poor sales, which >> is "jolly bad form" imo. >> >> Jane >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jester [mailto:webmaster@killing-joke.com] >> Sent: 03 November 2003 16:51 >> To: gathering@misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm >> >> >> On 11/3/03 10:39 AM, "Rob's Arse" >> wrote: >> >>> I don't like this. You say this came from the NMA >> board, but I saw the exact >>> same post at one of the KJ message boards. This >> person is just doing the >>> rounds. OK, Killing Joke had an bad day at the >> office, very sorry but this >>> person claims to be a fan. This doesn't seem like >> fan behaviour. >> >> Very true. I am not doubting this happened, but if >> you have seen enough >> shows in life, you realize bands sometimes have off >> nights. Oh well, ya had >> a bad day, see ya next time round, and move on. >> >>> Complain to >>> Killing Joke via one of the websites, >> >> Oh dear god no...please no...I don?t want to hear >> it. >> >> Also...Would not be a good decision for a fan to >> complain to me about a >> show. For one, I wont get to go to any of the Joke >> tour in the US, and for >> another thing, I had to help move my mom & step dad >> this weekend, and about >> got into a fist fight with my uncle during the move. >> I am not in the best of >> moods today, to deal with a fan who happened to see >> a bad show. Boo fucking >> hoo on them. <----see, a bad day at the office >> >>> but this pointless slagging is a waste >>> of time. >> >> Especially when you consider the band themselves. >> Like this shit would make >> a difference. A true Joker would know this. >> >> >> >> KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! >> OCCISIO LOCATIO >> >> THE WEBMASTER, >> JESTER >> WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM >> WWW.PARALLAX1.COM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > ===== > http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com > http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com > http://www.mp3.com/tweek > http://www.mp3.com/green_lung > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears > http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 18:02:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:02:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? In-Reply-To: <57E2DD7A.24D352DC.398839F0@aol.com> from "GregSlawson@aol.com" at Nov 03, 2003 11:59:36 AM Message-ID: <200311031802.hA3I2k2D012438@basil.jkm.net> > True, and the DJs are given lists of songs they HAVE to play. So if the record companies are not doing their job, it's a lost cause. But the radio station CEOs are the ones who make these decisions about what to play. And fewer and fewer companies own these big stations--there was just a bill to curb ownership of the media by fewer companies in the US, but it did not pass. I think the right-wing Clear Channel Co. owns 35% of the market! Yup, which is one reason I think that file sharing HAS to go on in order for bands who aren't on Clear Channel's playlists to make it. It's the only way fans can hear other bands without going out and buying an entire CD just to see if they like it. FUCK Clear Channel. I think I am going to take them on ;-) The other thing I was musing over is whether the RIAA can sue someone who's only uploaded music that is NOT released in the US. Many of us no doubt listen to such bands, who don't have an American label. Anyone know? I'm not going to go out and slurp up all such music! but I am curious. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 18:16:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:16:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031103181657.34420.qmail@web10412.mail.yahoo.com> you can hardly compare working in an office to being on TOUR, now can you? that's what i meant about how bad can a successful touring musician's off-day be. If that analogy you described is alluding to KJ's tour support being cut in half or something of that nature, well, is that the fan's fault? The die-hards who drive hours out of their way to see a show? People like us who are frothing at the bit for any and all minutia related to the band? Like Ricky Roma said: "Fuck YOU, pal! Your excuses are your OWN!". Anyways, this is all heresay really. I have no idea why the show was bad, how bad it actually was, or if it was bad at ALL. So fuck it, let's just make Kool Aid. OH YEAH! Leigh --- Jester wrote: > Should-a, would-a, could-a.... > > All great in this nice fuzzy, touchy feely world we > can create in our minds. > But! This is not human nature. If your boss tells > you he is going to pay you > $100.00 a day, then cuts it to $40.00 a day, would > you still do the same > quality of work? Not many people would. > > Fuck, one bad show, and people lose their minds. I > bet none of those that > complain have EVER had a bad day. > > On 11/3/03 11:22 AM, "Leigh Newton" > wrote: > > > YES! Exactly what i was getting at. Very well > said, > > Jane. If one person comes, if 10 people come, if > 100 > > come, if 1000 come, you should always try and put > in a > > good show. The diehards shouldn't have to suffer > > because of lack of promotion, or even lack of > > interest. Anyways, what does an "off-day" really > > amount to when you're in a band, a fairly > successful > > band, no less? Can't be all that bad. > > > > Leigh > > > > --- "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" > > wrote: > >> I'm not condoning the posting of bad reviews all > >> over the place, but I guess this is a natural > >> reaction to the disappointment the lady must have > >> felt having paid good money to go and see a > >> favourite band who she had very high expectations > of > >> that didn't deliver. Sure bands have off days, > and > >> to be fair, she has acknowledged this in saying > that > >> they are "a great band" and that she had "heard > so > >> many good reviews". Her posts might not make a > >> difference, but I guess she's just getting her > >> disappointment off her chest. > >> > >> Off days or not, however, it is not the punters' > >> fault if gigs are not well promoted, and imo the > few > >> that do make the effort to turn out for > >> underpromoted shows deserve a good show just as > much > >> as those who are lucky enough to catch a > full-house. > >> If Big Life & Zuma are not doing their job, (and > it > >> sounds like they haven't been), the band > shouldn't > >> take it out on the few fans that do make the > effort > >> to turn out to see them. If they instead gave > those > >> few fans a good show, they will tell their > friends, > >> and maybe next time around the crowd will be a > >> little larger. > >> > >> Maybe I'm over simplifying things - it sounds > like > >> there were technical problems if the sound was > that > >> bad, but I can't help thinking they didn't really > >> put the effort in because of the poor sales, > which > >> is "jolly bad form" imo. > >> > >> Jane > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jester [mailto:webmaster@killing-joke.com] > >> Sent: 03 November 2003 16:51 > >> To: gathering@misera.net > >> Subject: Re: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm > >> > >> > >> On 11/3/03 10:39 AM, "Rob's Arse" > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I don't like this. You say this came from the > NMA > >> board, but I saw the exact > >>> same post at one of the KJ message boards. This > >> person is just doing the > >>> rounds. OK, Killing Joke had an bad day at the > >> office, very sorry but this > >>> person claims to be a fan. This doesn't seem > like > >> fan behaviour. > >> > >> Very true. I am not doubting this happened, but > if > >> you have seen enough > >> shows in life, you realize bands sometimes have > off > >> nights. Oh well, ya had > >> a bad day, see ya next time round, and move on. > >> > >>> Complain to > >>> Killing Joke via one of the websites, > >> > >> Oh dear god no...please no...I don?t want to hear > >> it. > >> > >> Also...Would not be a good decision for a fan to > >> complain to me about a > >> show. For one, I wont get to go to any of the > Joke > >> tour in the US, and for > >> another thing, I had to help move my mom & step > dad > >> this weekend, and about > >> got into a fist fight with my uncle during the > move. > >> I am not in the best of > >> moods today, to deal with a fan who happened to > see > >> a bad show. Boo fucking > >> hoo on them. <----see, a bad day at the office > >> > >>> but this pointless slagging is a waste > >>> of time. > >> > >> Especially when you consider the band themselves. > >> Like this shit would make > >> a difference. A true Joker would know this. > >> > >> > >> > >> KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > >> OCCISIO LOCATIO > >> > >> THE WEBMASTER, > >> JESTER > >> WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > >> WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gathering mailing list > >> Gathering@misera.net > >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gathering mailing list > >> Gathering@misera.net > >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com > > http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com > > http://www.mp3.com/tweek > > http://www.mp3.com/green_lung > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears > > http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 18:23:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:23:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? In-Reply-To: <200311031802.hA3I2k2D012438@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: <20031103182341.35285.qmail@web10412.mail.yahoo.com> I just love how all these industy people who have their back up about file-sharing and how it's hurting the music industry never really stopped to consider that maybe the quality of the music that's being pushed to the mainstream has something to do with it. There is absolutely NO thought put towards marketing a band as having some sort of longevity at all. I think these people assume that folks who buy CDs and watch MTV have zero-attention span (and they're right, hehe) so all their big bands are crafted and engineered to be disposable. 3 year life span, tops! Gee, i wonder why no one wants to buy their CDs! Leigh --- Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > True, and the DJs are given lists of songs they > HAVE to play. So if the record companies are not > doing their job, it's a lost cause. But the radio > station CEOs are the ones who make these decisions > about what to play. And fewer and fewer companies > own these big stations--there was just a bill to > curb ownership of the media by fewer companies in > the US, but it did not pass. I think the right-wing > Clear Channel Co. owns 35% of the market! > > Yup, which is one reason I think that file sharing > HAS to go on in > order for bands who aren't on Clear Channel's > playlists to make it. > It's the only way fans can hear other bands without > going out > and buying an entire CD just to see if they like it. > > FUCK Clear Channel. I think I am going to take them > on ;-) > > The other thing I was musing over is whether the > RIAA can > sue someone who's only uploaded music that is NOT > released > in the US. Many of us no doubt listen to such > bands, who > don't have an American label. Anyone know? I'm not > going > to go out and slurp up all such music! but I am > curious. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 18:43:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 12:43:58 -0600 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: <20031103181657.34420.qmail@web10412.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 11/3/03 12:16 PM, "Leigh Newton" wrote: > you can hardly compare working in an office to being > on TOUR, now can you? Nope. A day in the office is much much much easier than being away from your home for weeks on end, having to talk with all these people that come up to you, and try to put on the happy face, because you know they may never get another chance to meet you, everything is in consideration for the "fans". Everything you do is public. None of that happens when you go to the office. You go there for 8 hours, then get to come home. No one really cares what you do when your there, as long as it looks like you did something on the next report at the end of the quarter. > that's what i meant about how > bad can a successful touring musician's off-day be. If > that analogy you described is alluding to KJ's tour > support being cut in half or something of that nature, > well, is that the fan's fault? Leigh, how in the hell does support have anything to do with having a off performance due to illness or other things that may be going on within the band? Not a damn thing. Also, I already answered that question. I never said it was the fans fault. No where did I say that, or even insinuate that. What I did say is that it is human nature to react when you see a gathering of 75 - 100 people. > The die-hards who drive > hours out of their way to see a show? People like us > who are frothing at the bit for any and all minutia > related to the band? Like Ricky Roma said: "Fuck YOU, > pal! Your excuses are your OWN!". More like "your problems are your own..." > > Anyways, this is all heresay really. I have no idea > why the show was bad, how bad it actually was, or if > it was bad at ALL. So fuck it, let's just make Kool > Aid. OH YEAH! Right now, Jaz could get on stage here in Texas, take a big steaming dump, Raven could sick the pit bulls on the two or three people that would actually show up, and that would be loads better than what we have, and make me more than fucking happy. Right now, people that actually get to see them get on stage, for even one song with a horrible muddy mix, and Jaz puking on people, get no sympathy from me, cause that is a hell of a lot better than not seeing them at all. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 19:14:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:14:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031103191425.46058.qmail@web10412.mail.yahoo.com> Well, everyone is different, different strokes and all that shit. But, having done both (worked in an office and been on tour and away from home for months at a time), i can say that the latter is infinately preferable (although it has to be said that no one and i mean no one and i mean NO ONE was interested in talking to me on a "fan" level, so there are obvious differences). The tour support thing? i dunno, just seemed like you were alluding to that or them getting fucked over in some monitary way. Ex-ker-uuuuuuse me for bringing it up! The fact is that if they put in a lousy show because the attendance was poor, then that's a dickhead move if i ever heard one. And the fact that you yourself said that you'd be fine if Jaz and Raven took a shit onstage just shows that you can't be objective about this, so screw it, nothing anyone says will change your mind. Now wrap your arms around yourself and just hug all that hostility away! :):):):):):):):):):):) Leigh --- Jester wrote: > On 11/3/03 12:16 PM, "Leigh Newton" > wrote: > > > you can hardly compare working in an office to > being > > on TOUR, now can you? > > Nope. A day in the office is much much much easier > than being away from your > home for weeks on end, having to talk with all these > people that come up to > you, and try to put on the happy face, because you > know they may never get > another chance to meet you, everything is in > consideration for the "fans". > Everything you do is public. None of that happens > when you go to the office. > You go there for 8 hours, then get to come home. No > one really cares what > you do when your there, as long as it looks like you > did something on the > next report at the end of the quarter. > > > that's what i meant about how > > bad can a successful touring musician's off-day > be. If > > that analogy you described is alluding to KJ's > tour > > support being cut in half or something of that > nature, > > well, is that the fan's fault? > > Leigh, how in the hell does support have anything to > do with having a off > performance due to illness or other things that may > be going on within the > band? Not a damn thing. Also, I already answered > that question. I never said > it was the fans fault. No where did I say that, or > even insinuate that. What > I did say is that it is human nature to react when > you see a gathering of 75 > - 100 people. > > > The die-hards who drive > > hours out of their way to see a show? People like > us > > who are frothing at the bit for any and all > minutia > > related to the band? Like Ricky Roma said: "Fuck > YOU, > > pal! Your excuses are your OWN!". > > > More like "your problems are your own..." > > > > Anyways, this is all heresay really. I have no > idea > > why the show was bad, how bad it actually was, or > if > > it was bad at ALL. So fuck it, let's just make > Kool > > Aid. OH YEAH! > > Right now, Jaz could get on stage here in Texas, > take a big steaming dump, > Raven could sick the pit bulls on the two or three > people that would > actually show up, and that would be loads better > than what we have, and make > me more than fucking happy. Right now, people that > actually get to see them > get on stage, for even one song with a horrible > muddy mix, and Jaz puking on > people, get no sympathy from me, cause that is a > hell of a lot better than > not seeing them at all. > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 19:17:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:17:54 -0000 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? References: Message-ID: <006101c3a23f$2f756d10$92af883e@mycomputer> Blimey! When will/did the new single come out? I err.. missed it! there. Zuma and Big Life have failed time and time again at this. Like a bunch of 15 year olds, smoking a joint in the basement, on moms computer, going "do you think we need to make a poster?" "Nah man, this shit sells itself." Clueless fucking idiots, with egos the size of fucking Russia. Not a good mix. It is one thing to be a bumbling, stupid, ass hole and know it, but these clowns actually think they do a good job. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 19:29:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:29:58 -0600 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: <20031103191425.46058.qmail@web10412.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 11/3/03 1:14 PM, "Leigh Newton" wrote: > Well, everyone is different, different strokes and all > that shit. But, having done both (worked in an office > and been on tour and away from home for months at a > time), i can say that the latter is infinately > preferable (although it has to be said that no one and > i mean no one and i mean NO ONE was interested in > talking to me on a "fan" level, so there are obvious > differences). The tour support thing? i dunno, just > seemed like you were alluding to that or them getting > fucked over in some monitary way. Ex-ker-uuuuuuse me > for bringing it up! The fact is that if they put in a > lousy show because the attendance was poor, then > that's a dickhead move if i ever heard one. And the > fact that you yourself said that you'd be fine if Jaz > and Raven took a shit onstage just shows that you > can't be objective about this, so screw it, nothing > anyone says will change your mind. True man...I cant be objective right now....in all honesty. Also, when I wa= s single, no kids and such, I would much rather be away from home. Now, with = a wife and kids, I would hate the thought. Just another perspective to it. Some of these old guys in the joke have the wife and kids waiting. Adds something different to the mix...maybe, I don=B9t know. > Now wrap your arms > around yourself and just hug all that hostility away! > :):):):):):):):):):):) Dood, I wish I could right now. Fuck I wish it were that simple. I should just stay away from the net right now, really. Having to have my step dad, mom, and wife hold me back from kicking the shit out of my uncle for jumpin= g in my wife's face, in front of our kids, Saturday night, has me really steaming, still. At least I know that the entire family is (for once) completely on my side in this one. Still, I have a thurst for blood, that i= s actually only getting worse, not better, with time. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 19:35:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:35:33 -0600 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? In-Reply-To: <006101c3a23f$2f756d10$92af883e@mycomputer> Message-ID: On 11/3/03 1:17 PM, "Stephen Robinson" wrote: > Blimey! > > When will/did the new single come out? I err.. missed it! > Zuma: puff...Single? Red Inc: cough...What single? Big Life: puff....The one from 89? KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 19:38:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 14:38:51 -0500 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? Message-ID: I am going to make one point and sit back. The big labels that are crying about loss of sales because of music swapping is not going after the companies that make CD burners. Why? Because how would someone like Virgin sue Sony? It can't and won't happen. It is a one-sided weak arguement. done chris >From: Leigh Newton >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Milwaukee?? >Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:23:41 -0800 (PST) > >I just love how all these industy people who have >their back up about file-sharing and how it's hurting >the music industry never really stopped to consider >that maybe the quality of the music thaat's being >pushed to the mainstream has something to do with it. >There is absolutely NO thought put towards marketing a >band as having some sort of longevity at all. I think >these people assume that folks who buy CDs and watch >MTV have zero-attention span (and they're right, hehe) >so all their big bands are crafted and engineered to >be disposable. 3 year life span, tops! Gee, i wonder >why no one wants to buy their CDs! > >Leigh > >--- Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > > True, and the DJs are given lists of songs they > > HAVE to play. So if the record companies are not > > doing their job, it's a lost cause. But the radio > > station CEOs are the ones who make these decisions > > about what to play. And fewer and fewer companies > > own these big stations--there was just a bill to > > curb ownership of the media by fewer companies in > > the US, but it did not pass. I think the right-wing > > Clear Channel Co. owns 35% of the market! > > > > Yup, which is one reason I think that file sharing > > HAS to go on in > > order for bands who aren't on Clear Channel's > > playlists to make it. > > It's the only way fans can hear other bands without > > going out > > and buying an entire CD just to see if they like it. > > > > FUCK Clear Channel. I think I am going to take them > > on ;-) > > > > The other thing I was musing over is whether the > > RIAA can > > sue someone who's only uploaded music that is NOT > > released > > in the US. Many of us no doubt listen to such > > bands, who > > don't have an American label. Anyone know? I'm not > > going > > to go out and slurp up all such music! but I am > > curious. > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >===== >http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com >http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com >http://www.mp3.com/tweek >http://www.mp3.com/green_lung > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears >http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with broadband Internet access. Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 19:41:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alexi Hamilton) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:41:01 +0000 Subject: [kj] Chicago Message-ID:

Chicago was not as bad as that.  They did break a sweat and had 2 songs for an encore (didn't know if that was their choice or if it was the Metro's doing) But, like that show, they started 45 minutes later than their posted start time and the sound was shit.  At many points, you couldn't hear Jaz's voice and Geordie's guitar was pretty quiet.  Also, the soundguy couldn't figure out what was up with reoccuring feedback and Jaz was obviously quite pissed off because of this.  Raven and Geordie would just look at each other and make faces and smile.  They let it roll off their back.  You could tell they were having fun, for the most part.  The show was a lot shorter than I was hoping but they did pull a lot of songs off of older albums to play.  We got songs like Requiem, The Wait, Fall of Because, Kings and Queens and several others.  Their Encore was Asteroid and Pandaemonium.  Not much off the new album to be honest.  Sad that they didn't play The House that Pain Built.

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>From: "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: "Gathering2"
>Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??
>Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:25:42 -0000
>
>It does sound like it wasn't their best show. This was posted on the NMA noticeboard:
>
>"I just got back from seeing the Killing Joke at the Rave in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Last time I saw them was in 1989 in Chicago! I was so excited to see them but I have to tell you, it was the worst show I have ever seen. First off, the crowd consisted of only about 75 people. Maybe that had something to do with their attitudes. They made us wait quite a long time before they came out. Then they got on stage and made some rude remarks about Americans. They never broke a sweat during the show. The sound was terrible! You couldn't even hear Jaz's voice; you really couldn't hear him at all, literally, half of the time. They weren't even on stage for 45 minutes. When they were done they just walked off, leaving the stage w/o any words. They didn't play an encore. Everyone, and I mean everyone, left disappointed. Most were very vocal about it. I am so disappointed as they are a great band and I had heard so many good reviews. Did anyone else have a similar experience with them?"
>
>I'm glad we didn't get any shows like that in the UK, Jane
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Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 19:58:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 11:58:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031103195812.75052.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com> Well, yeah, but there's also many uses for burning CDs other than putting music on them. Pirating video games, for example! Leigh --- Christof hamille wrote: > I am going to make one point and sit back. The big > labels that are crying > about loss of sales because of music swapping is not > going after the > companies that make CD burners. Why? Because how > would someone like Virgin > sue Sony? It can't and won't happen. It is a > one-sided weak arguement. > > done > > chris > > > >From: Leigh Newton > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: Re: [kj] Milwaukee?? > >Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:23:41 -0800 (PST) > > > >I just love how all these industy people who have > >their back up about file-sharing and how it's > hurting > >the music industry never really stopped to consider > >that maybe the quality of the music thaat's being > >pushed to the mainstream has something to do with > it. > >There is absolutely NO thought put towards > marketing a > >band as having some sort of longevity at all. I > think > >these people assume that folks who buy CDs and > watch > >MTV have zero-attention span (and they're right, > hehe) > >so all their big bands are crafted and engineered > to > >be disposable. 3 year life span, tops! Gee, i > wonder > >why no one wants to buy their CDs! > > > >Leigh > > > >--- Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > > > True, and the DJs are given lists of songs > they > > > HAVE to play. So if the record companies are not > > > doing their job, it's a lost cause. But the > radio > > > station CEOs are the ones who make these > decisions > > > about what to play. And fewer and fewer > companies > > > own these big stations--there was just a bill to > > > curb ownership of the media by fewer companies > in > > > the US, but it did not pass. I think the > right-wing > > > Clear Channel Co. owns 35% of the market! > > > > > > Yup, which is one reason I think that file > sharing > > > HAS to go on in > > > order for bands who aren't on Clear Channel's > > > playlists to make it. > > > It's the only way fans can hear other bands > without > > > going out > > > and buying an entire CD just to see if they like > it. > > > > > > FUCK Clear Channel. I think I am going to take > them > > > on ;-) > > > > > > The other thing I was musing over is whether the > > > RIAA can > > > sue someone who's only uploaded music that is > NOT > > > released > > > in the US. Many of us no doubt listen to such > > > bands, who > > > don't have an American label. Anyone know? I'm > not > > > going > > > to go out and slurp up all such music! but I am > > > curious. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > >===== > >http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com > >http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com > >http://www.mp3.com/tweek > >http://www.mp3.com/green_lung > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears > >http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Surf and talk on the phone at the same time with > broadband Internet access. > Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month (depending > on the local service > providers in your area). https://broadband.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 20:01:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:01:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm Message-ID: <20031103200103.F0F73E4C0@sitemail.everyone.net> Fair enopugh Leigh. Quite agree that they have a right to moan. But moan at KJ or management or whatever. My beef is that this person slags them off at a New Model Army forum. That's just petty. That's my point. --- Leigh Newton wrote: YES! Exactly what i was getting at. Very well said, Jane. If one person comes, if 10 people come, if 100 come, if 1000 come, you should always try and put in a good show. The diehards shouldn't have to suffer because of lack of promotion, or even lack of interest. Anyways, what does an "off-day" really amount to when you're in a band, a fairly successful band, no less? Can't be all that bad. Leigh --- "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" wrote: > I'm not condoning the posting of bad reviews all > over the place, but I guess this is a natural > reaction to the disappointment the lady must have > felt having paid good money to go and see a > favourite band who she had very high expectations of > that didn't deliver. Sure bands have off days, and > to be fair, she has acknowledged this in saying that > they are "a great band" and that she had "heard so > many good reviews". Her posts might not make a > difference, but I guess she's just getting her > disappointment off her chest. > > Off days or not, however, it is not the punters' > fault if gigs are not well promoted, and imo the few > that do make the effort to turn out for > underpromoted shows deserve a good show just as much > as those who are lucky enough to catch a full-house. > If Big Life & Zuma are not doing their job, (and it > sounds like they haven't been), the band shouldn't > take it out on the few fans that do make the effort > to turn out to see them. If they instead gave those > few fans a good show, they will tell their friends, > and maybe next time around the crowd will be a > little larger. > > Maybe I'm over simplifying things - it sounds like > there were technical problems if the sound was that > bad, but I can't help thinking they didn't really > put the effort in because of the poor sales, which > is "jolly bad form" imo. > > Jane > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jester [mailto:webmaster@killing-joke.com] > Sent: 03 November 2003 16:51 > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm > > > On 11/3/03 10:39 AM, "Rob's Arse" > wrote: > > > I don't like this. You say this came from the NMA > board, but I saw the exact > > same post at one of the KJ message boards. This > person is just doing the > > rounds. OK, Killing Joke had an bad day at the > office, very sorry but this > > person claims to be a fan. This doesn't seem like > fan behaviour. > > Very true. I am not doubting this happened, but if > you have seen enough > shows in life, you realize bands sometimes have off > nights. Oh well, ya had > a bad day, see ya next time round, and move on. > > > Complain to > > Killing Joke via one of the websites, > > Oh dear god no...please no...I dont want to hear > it. > > Also...Would not be a good decision for a fan to > complain to me about a > show. For one, I wont get to go to any of the Joke > tour in the US, and for > another thing, I had to help move my mom & step dad > this weekend, and about > got into a fist fight with my uncle during the move. > I am not in the best of > moods today, to deal with a fan who happened to see > a bad show. Boo fucking > hoo on them. <----see, a bad day at the office > > > but this pointless slagging is a waste > > of time. > > Especially when you consider the band themselves. > Like this shit would make > a difference. A true Joker would know this. > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 20:05:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:05:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm Message-ID: <20031103200520.C929B3943@sitemail.everyone.net> Exactly Joe. Touring in a band IS like going to the office, it's what you do to put bread on the table. It all looks glamorous, but believe me, behind the bright lights and warpaint, it's pissy dressing rooms, rooms stinking of piss/beer/vomit, no decent food and little privacy. But I'd fucking sell my arse to be where Killing Joke are ! (any offers???) --- Jester wrote: On 11/3/03 12:16 PM, "Leigh Newton" wrote: > you can hardly compare working in an office to being > on TOUR, now can you? Nope. A day in the office is much much much easier than being away from your home for weeks on end, having to talk with all these people that come up to you, and try to put on the happy face, because you know they may never get another chance to meet you, everything is in consideration for the "fans". Everything you do is public. None of that happens when you go to the office. You go there for 8 hours, then get to come home. No one really cares what you do when your there, as long as it looks like you did something on the next report at the end of the quarter. > that's what i meant about how > bad can a successful touring musician's off-day be. If > that analogy you described is alluding to KJ's tour > support being cut in half or something of that nature, > well, is that the fan's fault? Leigh, how in the hell does support have anything to do with having a off performance due to illness or other things that may be going on within the band? Not a damn thing. Also, I already answered that question. I never said it was the fans fault. No where did I say that, or even insinuate that. What I did say is that it is human nature to react when you see a gathering of 75 - 100 people. > The die-hards who drive > hours out of their way to see a show? People like us > who are frothing at the bit for any and all minutia > related to the band? Like Ricky Roma said: "Fuck YOU, > pal! Your excuses are your OWN!". More like "your problems are your own..." > > Anyways, this is all heresay really. I have no idea > why the show was bad, how bad it actually was, or if > it was bad at ALL. So fuck it, let's just make Kool > Aid. OH YEAH! Right now, Jaz could get on stage here in Texas, take a big steaming dump, Raven could sick the pit bulls on the two or three people that would actually show up, and that would be loads better than what we have, and make me more than fucking happy. Right now, people that actually get to see them get on stage, for even one song with a horrible muddy mix, and Jaz puking on people, get no sympathy from me, cause that is a hell of a lot better than not seeing them at all. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 20:05:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:05:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? In-Reply-To: <20031103195812.75052.qmail@web10405.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031103210511.P67047-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Leigh Newton wrote: > Well, yeah, but there's also many uses for burning CDs > other than putting music on them. > > Pirating video games, for example! Porn. b From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 20:12:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:12:23 -0500 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm References: <20031103200520.C929B3943@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <005f01c3a246$cbbedec0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C3A21C.E2596800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <> don't bother bartering with that nasty thing rob! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rob's Arse=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm Exactly Joe. Touring in a band IS like going to the office, it's what = you do to put bread on the table. It all looks glamorous, but believe = me, behind the bright lights and warpaint, it's pissy dressing rooms, = rooms stinking of piss/beer/vomit, no decent food and little privacy. But I'd fucking sell my arse to be where Killing Joke are ! (any = offers???) --- Jester wrote: On 11/3/03 12:16 PM, "Leigh Newton" wrote: > you can hardly compare working in an office to being > on TOUR, now can you? Nope. A day in the office is much much much easier than being away = from your home for weeks on end, having to talk with all these people that come = up to you, and try to put on the happy face, because you know they may never = get another chance to meet you, everything is in consideration for the = "fans". Everything you do is public. None of that happens when you go to the = office. You go there for 8 hours, then get to come home. No one really cares = what you do when your there, as long as it looks like you did something on = the next report at the end of the quarter. > that's what i meant about how > bad can a successful touring musician's off-day be. If > that analogy you described is alluding to KJ's tour > support being cut in half or something of that nature, > well, is that the fan's fault? Leigh, how in the hell does support have anything to do with having a = off performance due to illness or other things that may be going on within = the band? Not a damn thing. Also, I already answered that question. I = never said it was the fans fault. No where did I say that, or even insinuate = that. What I did say is that it is human nature to react when you see a gathering = of 75 - 100 people.=20 > The die-hards who drive > hours out of their way to see a show? People like us > who are frothing at the bit for any and all minutia > related to the band? Like Ricky Roma said: "Fuck YOU, > pal! Your excuses are your OWN!". More like "your problems are your own..." >=20 > Anyways, this is all heresay really. I have no idea > why the show was bad, how bad it actually was, or if > it was bad at ALL. So fuck it, let's just make Kool > Aid. OH YEAH! Right now, Jaz could get on stage here in Texas, take a big steaming = dump, Raven could sick the pit bulls on the two or three people that would actually show up, and that would be loads better than what we have, = and make me more than fucking happy. Right now, people that actually get to see = them get on stage, for even one song with a horrible muddy mix, and Jaz = puking on people, get no sympathy from me, cause that is a hell of a lot better = than not seeing them at all. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C3A21C.E2596800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rob's Arse =
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 = 3:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj]=20 Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm


Exactly Joe. Touring in a band IS like going to the = office,=20 it's what you do to put bread on the table. It all looks glamorous, = but=20 believe me, behind the bright lights and warpaint, it's pissy dressing = rooms,=20 rooms stinking of piss/beer/vomit, no decent food and little=20 privacy.

But I'd fucking sell my arse to be where Killing Joke = are !=20 (any offers???)

--- Jester <webmaster@killing-joke.com= >=20 wrote:
On 11/3/03 12:16 PM, "Leigh Newton" <morbidflorist@yahoo.com>=20 wrote:

> you can hardly compare working in an office to=20 being
> on TOUR, now can you?

Nope. A day in the office = is much=20 much much easier than being away from your
home for weeks on end, = having to=20 talk with all these people that come up to
you, and try to put on = the happy=20 face, because you know they may never get
another chance to meet = you,=20 everything is in consideration for the "fans".
Everything you do is = public.=20 None of that happens when you go to the office.
You go there for 8 = hours,=20 then get to come home. No one really cares what
you do when your = there, as=20 long as it looks like you did something on the
next report at the = end of=20 the quarter.

> that's what i meant about how
> bad can = a=20 successful touring musician's off-day be. If
> that analogy you=20 described is alluding to KJ's tour
> support being cut in half = or=20 something of that nature,
> well, is that the fan's = fault?

Leigh,=20 how in the hell does support have anything to do with having a=20 off
performance due to illness or other things that may be going on = within=20 the
band? Not a damn thing. Also, I already answered that question. = I never=20 said
it was the fans fault. No where did I say that, or even = insinuate=20 that. What
I did say is that it is human nature to react when you = see a=20 gathering of 75
- 100 people.

> The die-hards who = drive
>=20 hours out of their way to see a show? People like us
> who are = frothing=20 at the bit for any and all minutia
> related to the band? Like = Ricky=20 Roma said: "Fuck YOU,
> pal! Your excuses are your=20 OWN!".


More like "your problems are your own..."
> =
>=20 Anyways, this is all heresay really. I have no idea
> why the = show was=20 bad, how bad it actually was, or if
> it was bad at ALL. So fuck = it,=20 let's just make Kool
> Aid. OH YEAH!

Right now, Jaz could = get on=20 stage here in Texas, take a big steaming dump,
Raven could sick the = pit=20 bulls on the two or three people that would
actually show up, and = that=20 would be loads better than what we have, and make
me more than = fucking=20 happy. Right now, people that actually get to see them
get on = stage, for=20 even one song with a horrible muddy mix, and Jaz puking on
people, = get no=20 sympathy from me, cause that is a hell of a lot better than
not = seeing them=20 at all.



KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO = LOCATIO=20

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C3A21C.E2596800-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 20:14:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:14:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: <20031103200520.C929B3943@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20031103201424.73228.qmail@web10411.mail.yahoo.com> Yep, all good examples of the downside of being on tour. Every day is a brand new and exciting search for a toilet that is actually shit-in-able and not just a stand-5-feet-away pisspot, something OTHER than McPuke to eat (although the 99 cent menu is about all you can afford. thank god for Wendy's) and maaaaybe something other than a cold, hard, dirty floor to sleep on. You had dressing rooms? LUCKY! hehe. All that said, the highs by far outshine the lows. If you're into it, i guess. I don't know. It's fun. fun! Leigh --- Rob's Arse wrote: > > Exactly Joe. Touring in a band IS like going to the > office, it's what you do to put bread on the table. > It all looks glamorous, but believe me, behind the > bright lights and warpaint, it's pissy dressing > rooms, rooms stinking of piss/beer/vomit, no decent > food and little privacy. > > But I'd fucking sell my arse to be where Killing > Joke are ! (any offers???) > > --- Jester wrote: > On 11/3/03 12:16 PM, "Leigh Newton" > wrote: > > > you can hardly compare working in an office to > being > > on TOUR, now can you? > > Nope. A day in the office is much much much easier > than being away from your > home for weeks on end, having to talk with all these > people that come up to > you, and try to put on the happy face, because you > know they may never get > another chance to meet you, everything is in > consideration for the "fans". > Everything you do is public. None of that happens > when you go to the office. > You go there for 8 hours, then get to come home. No > one really cares what > you do when your there, as long as it looks like you > did something on the > next report at the end of the quarter. > > > that's what i meant about how > > bad can a successful touring musician's off-day > be. If > > that analogy you described is alluding to KJ's > tour > > support being cut in half or something of that > nature, > > well, is that the fan's fault? > > Leigh, how in the hell does support have anything to > do with having a off > performance due to illness or other things that may > be going on within the > band? Not a damn thing. Also, I already answered > that question. I never said > it was the fans fault. No where did I say that, or > even insinuate that. What > I did say is that it is human nature to react when > you see a gathering of 75 > - 100 people. > > > The die-hards who drive > > hours out of their way to see a show? People like > us > > who are frothing at the bit for any and all > minutia > > related to the band? Like Ricky Roma said: "Fuck > YOU, > > pal! Your excuses are your OWN!". > > > More like "your problems are your own..." > > > > Anyways, this is all heresay really. I have no > idea > > why the show was bad, how bad it actually was, or > if > > it was bad at ALL. So fuck it, let's just make > Kool > > Aid. OH YEAH! > > Right now, Jaz could get on stage here in Texas, > take a big steaming dump, > Raven could sick the pit bulls on the two or three > people that would > actually show up, and that would be loads better > than what we have, and make > me more than fucking happy. Right now, people that > actually get to see them > get on stage, for even one song with a horrible > muddy mix, and Jaz puking on > people, get no sympathy from me, cause that is a > hell of a lot better than > not seeing them at all. > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 20:14:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:14:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee?? In-Reply-To: <20031103210511.P67047-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <20031103201452.2071.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> Porn. Can't forget porn. --- Bo Krogsgaard wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Leigh Newton wrote: > > > Well, yeah, but there's also many uses for burning > CDs > > other than putting music on them. > > > > Pirating video games, for example! > > Porn. > > > b > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 21:04:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (death wish) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:04:22 +0000 Subject: [kj] Vancouver showtime Message-ID: Can anyone tell me what time KJ are due onstage in Vancouver on the 11th? It's not an early show or anything like that is it? Thanks, Trevor _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 21:23:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:23:57 +0000 Subject: [kj] WTF...! Message-ID: --============_-1144227854==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" A while ago you mentioned that you were disappointed with how the a/w for WTF came out. What did you have in mind....? Rob's Arse! No seriously though, I was still working on it when they "claimed it" so it got rushed and I never really got to finish it properly. I have now though...hee hee hee. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1144227854==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" WTF...!
A while ago you mentioned that you were disappointed with how the a/w for WTF came out.
What did you have in mind....?
Rob's Arse!

No seriously though, I was still working on it when they "claimed it" so it got rushed and I never really got to finish it properly.
I have now though...hee hee hee.
cheers,
colesy
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--============_-1144227854==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 21:45:28 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 08:45:28 +1100 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm Message-ID: Did the band really expect to be packing 'em in in Milwaukee? Despite being bloody good, Killing Joke are a largely forgotten band touring their first album in donkeys ages, an album that's not particularly accessible and one that's not sold well outside of the UK (that's a guess - did it sell well anywhere?). They just can't expect to pull huge crowds! Especially not in a backwater like Milwaukee. Surely the ticket presales would tell them (their promoters) that it's not worth going there. Killing Joke are most popular in England and that's where they'll always play their best shows. Screw, I hope I'm not the only mongrel who shows up in Sydney! -S ~Analysis, Paralysis~ ---------------------- Forwarded by Scott Lambeth/CO/HIC on 04/11/2003 08:36 --------------------------- "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" @misera.net on 04/11/2003 04:10:05 Please respond to gathering@misera.net Sent by: gathering-admin@misera.net To: cc: Subject: RE: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm I'm not condoning the posting of bad reviews all over the place, but I guess this is a natural reaction to the disappointment the lady must have felt having paid good money to go and see a favourite band who she had very high expectations of that didn't deliver. Sure bands have off days, and to be fair, she has acknowledged this in saying that they are "a great band" and that she had "heard so many good reviews". Her posts might not make a difference, but I guess she's just getting her disappointment off her chest. Off days or not, however, it is not the punters' fault if gigs are not well promoted, and imo the few that do make the effort to turn out for underpromoted shows deserve a good show just as much as those who are lucky enough to catch a full-house. If Big Life & Zuma are not doing their job, (and it sounds like they haven't been), the band shouldn't take it out on the few fans that do make the effort to turn out to see them. If they instead gave those few fans a good show, they will tell their friends, and maybe next time around the crowd will be a little larger. Maybe I'm over simplifying things - it sounds like there were technical problems if the sound was that bad, but I can't help thinking they didn't really put the effort in because of the poor sales, which is "jolly bad form" imo. Jane -----Original Message----- From: Jester [mailto:webmaster@killing-joke.com] Sent: 03 November 2003 16:51 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm On 11/3/03 10:39 AM, "Rob's Arse" wrote: > I don't like this. You say this came from the NMA board, but I saw the exact > same post at one of the KJ message boards. This person is just doing the > rounds. OK, Killing Joke had an bad day at the office, very sorry but this > person claims to be a fan. This doesn't seem like fan behaviour. Very true. I am not doubting this happened, but if you have seen enough shows in life, you realize bands sometimes have off nights. Oh well, ya had a bad day, see ya next time round, and move on. > Complain to > Killing Joke via one of the websites, Oh dear god no...please no...I don=B9t want to hear it. Also...Would not be a good decision for a fan to complain to me about a show. For one, I wont get to go to any of the Joke tour in the US, and for another thing, I had to help move my mom & step dad this weekend, and about got into a fist fight with my uncle during the move. I am not in the best of moods today, to deal with a fan who happened to see a bad show. Boo fucking hoo on them. <----see, a bad day at the office > but this pointless slagging is a waste > of time. Especially when you consider the band themselves. Like this shit would make a difference. A true Joker would know this. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering **************************************************************** NOTICE - This message is intended only for the use of the=20 addressee named above and may contain privileged and=20 confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not=20 disseminate, copy or take any action based upon it. If you=20 received this message in error please notify HIC immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of HIC. **************************************************************** From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 22:14:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:14:04 +0000 Subject: [kj] malicious tickery tockery Message-ID: You should be able to see the clocks on the MD site by Wednesday night. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 22:25:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:25:37 -0500 Subject: [kj] malicious tickery tockery References: Message-ID: <004101c3a259$687cbc20$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C3A22F.7F206D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i am counting the seconds!!! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mike coles=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:14 PM Subject: [kj] malicious tickery tockery You should be able to see the clocks on the MD site by Wednesday = night. cheers, colesy --=20 Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C3A22F.7F206D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i am counting the seconds!!!
 
 
 
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C3A22F.7F206D20-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 22:50:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:50:46 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <200311032251.hA3MpQgt027188@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned Brit music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly Brits have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably the Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of Leon ("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking **AWFUL** they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best of `03". Fuckin' dire, dire crap. Alex in NYC From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 23:03:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (J.Paul Owens) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 23:03:53 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: >Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned Brit >music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly >Brits >have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably the >Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of Leon >("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking **AWFUL** >they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best >of `03". Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up for - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? jp _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 23:07:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:07:21 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? References: Message-ID: <008001c3a25f$3d7cfca0$de887ed4@mydomain.com> Touche ! Sorry Alex, you walked into that one :o) * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "J.Paul Owens" To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > >Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned Brit > >music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly > >Brits > >have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably the > >Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of Leon > >("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking **AWFUL** > >they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best > >of `03". > > > Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up for - > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > > jp > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 23:28:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:28:17 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <200311032328.hA3NSAgt003713@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> "Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up for - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?" ::::sigh:::: Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively or not is another matter). Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "J.Paul Owens" >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM > >>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned Brit >>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly >>Brits >>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably the >>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of Leon >>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking **AWFUL** >>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best >>of `03". > > >Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up for - > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > >jp > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 23:35:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:35:06 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? References: <200311032328.hA3NSAgt003713@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <008301c3a263$1d479b80$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C3A239.33D2E280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, kicks! there are many = "underground" mags actually. just none for crust dwellers. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Smith=20 To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? "Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it = up for - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?" ::::sigh:::: Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at = least bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively = or not is another matter). Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "J.Paul Owens" >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM > >>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned = Brit >>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those = silly=20 >>Brits >>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, = notably the >>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings = of Leon >>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking = **AWFUL** >>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed = "The Best >>of `03". > > >Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it = up for -=20 > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > >jp > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!=20 >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C3A239.33D2E280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, = kicks! there=20 are many "underground" mags actually. just none for crust=20 dwellers.
 
 
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, = what's the=20 matter with you?


"Serves you right for buying Q magazine = really  -=20 what'd you pick it up for
-  the Dido article or the Eagles=20 retrospective?"

::::sigh::::

Ever read any Yank music = mags, JP?=20 They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least
bother to acknoledge bands = I like=20 (whether they reveiw them positively or
not is another = matter).

Alex=20 in NYC




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>From: "J.Paul Owens" = <john_paul_owens@hotmail.com>
>To:=20 gathering@misera.net
>Subj= ect:=20 Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
>Date: Mon, = Nov 3,=20 2003, 6:03 PM
>

>>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with = the=20 latest issue of much-maligned Brit
>>music periodical, Q = magazine,=20 I've finally heard two bands those silly =
>>Brits
>>have=20 been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably=20 the
>>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the = States' own=20 Kings of Leon
>>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' = shocked at=20 how fucking **AWFUL**
>>they both are....and they're the = first two=20 cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best
>>of=20 `03".
>
>
>Serves you right for buying Q magazine=20 really  - what'd you pick it up for -
>  the Dido = article or=20 the Eagles=20 = retrospective?
>
>jp
>
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C3A239.33D2E280-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 3 23:52:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:52:45 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <200311032353.hA3NrOgt019349@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3150730365_292467_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't been worth the paper it's shoddily printed on for about twenty-two years. There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is so hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, but they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably comprehensive. Alex in NYC ---------- From: "fluw" To: Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, kicks! there are many "underground" mags actually. just none for crust dwellers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Smith To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? "Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up for - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?" ::::sigh:::: Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively or not is another matter). Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "J.Paul Owens" > >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM > >>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned Brit >>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly >>Brits >>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably the >>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of Leon >>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking **AWFUL** >>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best >>of `03". > > >Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up for - > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > >jp > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --MS_Mac_OE_3150730365_292467_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't been worth the paper it's shoddily printed on for= about twenty-two years.

There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is so ha= ted. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, but they= 're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably comprehensiv= e.

Alex in NYC

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From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM


we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, = kicks! there are many "underground" mags actually. just none for c= rust dwellers.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Smith <mailto:vassifer@earthl= ink.net>  
To: gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net>  ; gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net>  
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?


"Serves you right for buying Q magazine really  - what'd you pick= it up for
-  the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?"

::::sigh::::

Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least=
bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively or not is another matter).

Alex in NYC




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>From: "J.Paul Owens" <john_paul_o= wens@hotmail.com <mailto:john_paul_ow= ens@hotmail.com> >
>To: gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
>Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM
>

>>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned = Brit
>>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those si= lly
>>Brits
>>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, not= ably the
>>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' = own Kings of Leon
>>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how f= ucking **AWFUL**
>>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed &q= uot;The Best
>>of `03".
>
>
>Serves you right for buying Q magazine really  - what'd you pick i= t up for -
>  the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?
>
>jp
>
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--MS_Mac_OE_3150730365_292467_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 00:03:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:03:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? In-Reply-To: <200311032251.hA3MpQgt027188@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031104000359.76135.qmail@web86102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-241941289-1067904239=:75195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Somehow Alex we seem to be linked by a profound sense of injustice. I remember the first time I saw The Darkness on tv. I was up late checking out MTV2 (always an awful waste of time) when that song came on. My first thought was that it was a joke, my second was that no-one could ever like this sort of music. However, when they got nominated for the mercury prize I realised what I had perhaps always known. People are fucking stupid. Kings Of Leon... I can't imagine anything more drab. Someone needs to pay. I mean Travis sold millions of albums and I for one wasn't one of the bastards who bought one. But some sick people out there did, and there must be a way to stop them. Alex Smith wrote: Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned Brit music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly Brits have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably the Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of Leon ("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking **AWFUL** they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best of `03". Fuckin' dire, dire crap. Alex in NYC _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-241941289-1067904239=:75195 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Somehow Alex we seem to be linked by a profound sense of injustice. 
 
I remember the first time I saw The Darkness on tv.  I was up late checking out MTV2 (always an awful waste of time) when that song came on.  My first thought was that it was a joke, my second was that no-one could ever like this sort of music.
 
However, when they got nominated for the mercury prize I realised what I had perhaps always known.  People are fucking stupid.
 
Kings Of Leon... I can't imagine anything more drab. 
 
Someone needs to pay.  I mean Travis sold millions of albums and I for one wasn't one of the bastards who bought one.  But some sick people out there did, and there must be a way to stop them.

Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:

Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned Brit
music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly Brits
have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably the
Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of Leon
("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking **AWFUL**
they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best
of `03".

Fuckin' dire, dire crap.


Alex in NYC
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-241941289-1067904239=:75195-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 00:04:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 00:04:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] malicious tickery tockery In-Reply-To: <004101c3a259$687cbc20$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031104000424.51740.qmail@web86109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1534532644-1067904264=:50926 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit backwards... fluw wrote:i am counting the seconds!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: mike coles To: gathering@misera.net Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:14 PM Subject: [kj] malicious tickery tockery You should be able to see the clocks on the MD site by Wednesday night. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1534532644-1067904264=:50926 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
backwards...

fluw <fluwdot@earthlink.net> wrote:
i am counting the seconds!!!
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: mike coles
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:14 PM
Subject: [kj] malicious tickery tockery

You should be able to see the clocks on the MD site by Wednesday night.
cheers,
colesy
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1534532644-1067904264=:50926-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 01:26:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:26:39 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? In-Reply-To: <200311032328.hA3NSAgt003713@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> from "Alex Smith" at Nov 03, 2003 06:28:17 PM Message-ID: <200311040126.hA41QdnM014963@basil.jkm.net> > Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least > bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively or > not is another matter). Yeah, I bought a magazine called rock sound (lower case and all) and there is quite a bit of pop-metal in it. OTOH, there are bands covered that I quite like and never see covered here -- Muse, Snow Patrol, Cooper Temple Clause, British Sea Power, and more..... From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 02:57:28 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:57:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? In-Reply-To: <200311032251.hA3MpQgt027188@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031104025728.94311.qmail@web10409.mail.yahoo.com> What else was on there? Leigh --- Alex Smith wrote: > > Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of > much-maligned Brit > music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two > bands those silly Brits > have been spilling their lager all over themselves > in praising, notably the > Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the > States' own Kings of Leon > ("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at > how fucking **AWFUL** > they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a > disc dubbed "The Best > of `03". > > Fuckin' dire, dire crap. > > > Alex in NYC > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 03:03:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:03:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <4548385.1067915028988.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Do you not get Mojo over there Alex? If we're talking slightly scholarly serious music mags, it is far superior to Q. Q is just so fucking... smug. And the same old PR-led bullshit. Mojo is slightly more historical, but I've read stuff in there that's been superb - the entire history of the MC5 comes to mind. If you like that sort of thing, that is... N > from: Alex Smith > There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is so > hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, but > they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably > comprehensive. -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 06:14:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bill Meissner) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:14:12 -0800 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke L.A. show Message-ID: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D602025FFC@encore02.libertylivewire.com> Hello all, I am happy to be back part of this wonderful Gathering.After a 1 year absence from the list I now have a new job and new computer to receive e-mails on via Outlook.Although I have to admit that I have not had much to contribute to the list as of yet but have enjoyed and thank you all for the knowledge I have gained through all of you old school Jokers.I will be seeing Killing Joke for the first time on Nov.14th here in Hollywood,CA. at the El Rey Theater - I CAN'T WAIT!Any other L.A. Gathering members out there planning a get together?Keep me posted! See ya , Billy Goat From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 09:37:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fat potanga) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 09:37:42 +0000 Subject: [kj] WTF...! Message-ID: >>...to finish it properly. I have now though...hee hee hee. Oooh, and will you be sharing Mr Coles? ----Original Message Follows---- From: mike coles Reply-To: gathering@misera.net To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] WTF...! Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:23:57 +0000 A while ago you mentioned that you were disappointed with how the a/w for WTF came out. What did you have in mind....? Rob's Arse! No seriously though, I was still working on it when they "claimed it" so it got rushed and I never really got to finish it properly. I have now though...hee hee hee. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 10:14:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 02:14:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP Message-ID: <20031104101427.F023E7276@sitemail.everyone.net> http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 10:39:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:39:10 -0000 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0F1@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Losts of interesting tracks Interesting . . . Blue Feather followed by New Day . . you don't see that often :o) >What's next???? Got anything Revelations era ? Thanks for this Rob . . . I'll delete the graffiti on those motorway bridges now . . Marc . > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob's Arse [SMTP:joker@Z6.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:14 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP > > > http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk > > follow the link to Roskilde. > The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, as > this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. > Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! > > Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. > > What's next???? > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 10:57:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:57:51 +0100 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP Message-ID: <3FA7943F.20766.6AE553@localhost> On 4 Nov 2003 at 2:14, Rob's Arse wrote: > Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. The Wait and Wardance are broken, the rest took me about 50 seconds to fetch. Thanks a lot!! b From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 10:59:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Ford Prefect) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:59:36 -0000 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <20031104101427.F023E7276@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <000b01c3a2c2$bdd2cd90$1c9a9151@sn7212787026> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3A2C2.BC426990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ambarseador, with these mp3s you are spoiling us. What year was this? unfortunately it seems metallica have claimed the wait and i can't get = wardance either. graham ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rob's Arse=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper = mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3A2C2.BC426990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ambarseador, with these = mp3s you are=20 spoiling us. What year was this?
 
unfortunately it seems = metallica have=20 claimed the wait and i can't get wardance either.
 
graham
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follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
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File under "decent but not overly exciting industrial metal" i guess. b From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 12:17:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:17:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Wardance/Wait links fixed Message-ID: <20031104121715.6B4EA3997@sitemail.everyone.net> Thanks! www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 12:47:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:47:31 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <200311041248.hA4Cm9gt001561@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Ah....let's see. Jane's Addiction (good!), Sean Paul (crap!), Muse (I kinda like them), Athlete (don't know'em, but they suck), Mars Volta (bleh!).....and some other crap I can't remember. Don't bother seeking it out. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Leigh Newton >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 9:57 PM > >What else was on there? > >Leigh > >--- Alex Smith wrote: >> >> Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of >> much-maligned Brit >> music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two >> bands those silly Brits >> have been spilling their lager all over themselves >> in praising, notably the >> Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the >> States' own Kings of Leon >> ("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at >> how fucking **AWFUL** >> they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a >> disc dubbed "The Best >> of `03". >> >> Fuckin' dire, dire crap. >> >> >> Alex in NYC >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >===== >http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com >http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com >http://www.mp3.com/tweek >http://www.mp3.com/green_lung > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 12:48:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:48:57 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <200311041248.hA4Cm9gv001561@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Yeah, we get Mojo....and Uncut for that matter. I don't mind Mojo, but they lean a bit too heavily towards the Gram Parsons side of things (i.e. older stuff). While I appreciate representation of archival material, I'd rather it be from another era, but whatevah. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: neilfperry@btinternet.com >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 10:03 PM > >Do you not get Mojo over there Alex? If we're talking slightly scholarly >serious music mags, it is far superior to Q. Q is just so fucking... smug. >And the same old PR-led bullshit. Mojo is slightly more historical, but >I've read stuff in there that's been superb - the entire history of the MC5 >comes to mind. If you like that sort of thing, that is... >N > >> from: Alex Smith >> There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is so >> hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, but >> they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably >> comprehensive. > > > > >-- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 13:24:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stevie "workslave" Robinson) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:24:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: (Fwd) Re: [kj] Good Interview Message-ID: <18992091.1067952261903.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> Skrew were on Invisible records, err.. I think, same label deisgn as Murder Inc. ======================================== Message date : Nov 04 2003, 11:02 AM >From : Bo Krogsgaard To : gathering@misera.net Copy to : Subject : (Fwd) Re: [kj] Good Interview Ack, i sent this to the old list address .. better late than never i guess :P On 29 Oct 2003 at 16:15, Phillipps Marc wrote: > So, we all know who Prong are but Varga & Skrew ?? > Any information on these two ? Do they sound like KJ ?? Skrew sounds a bit like Ministry but are unrelated to Killing Joke, music wise and otherwise. Didn't know they were still around. They have four albums out, at least two of them are decent. Angel Seed XXIII has Alain Jourgensen and Mike Scaccia as "guests", and Shadow Of Doubt has whatshisname .. Bobby Gustafsson or something .. former Overkill guitarist. File under "decent but not overly exciting industrial metal" i guess. b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 13:25:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:25:47 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <7D368CED82B7A44FAB699FBB41CC92120586410C@i2km02-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A2D7.282135C9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Believe me , Athlete suck. We had the misfortune to have to put up with them at the V2003 festival, whilst waiting for Killing Joke to appear. Alex Said Ah....let's see. Jane's Addiction (good!), Sean Paul (crap!), Muse (I kinda like them), Athlete (don't know'em, but they suck), Mars Volta (bleh!).....and some other crap I can't remember. Don't bother seeking it out. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A2D7.282135C9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Believe me , Athlete suck.

We had the = misfortune to have=20 to put up with them at the V2003 festival, whilst waiting for Killing = Joke to=20 appear.



Alex Said
Ah....let's see. Jane's Addiction = (good!),=20 Sean Paul (crap!), Muse (I kinda like them), Athlete (don't know'em, but = they=20 suck), Mars Volta (bleh!).....and some other crap I can't remember. = Don't bother=20 seeking it out.


=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A2D7.282135C9-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 13:32:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:32:11 -0000 Subject: (Fwd) Re: [kj] Good Interview Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0F4@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Skrew were on Invisible records, err.. I think, same label deisgn as Murder Inc. Yeah, I found out the other night I've actually got some stuff by them (that memorable !) on Invisible . . . Marc. (why do they make me think of Skrewdriver . . not a band that deserve remembering) > -----Original Message----- > From: Stevie "workslave" Robinson > [SMTP:heiferboy@robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:24 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: [kj] Good Interview > > > Skrew were on Invisible records, err.. I think, same label deisgn as > Murder Inc. > > > > ======================================== > Message date : Nov 04 2003, 11:02 AM > From : Bo Krogsgaard > To : gathering@misera.net > Copy to : > Subject : (Fwd) Re: [kj] Good Interview > > Ack, i sent this to the old list address .. better late than never i guess > :P > > On 29 Oct 2003 at 16:15, Phillipps Marc wrote: > > > So, we all know who Prong are but Varga & Skrew ?? > > Any information on these two ? Do they sound like KJ ?? > > Skrew sounds a bit like Ministry but are unrelated to Killing Joke, music > wise and otherwise. > Didn't know they were still around. > > They have four albums out, at least two of them are decent. Angel Seed > XXIII has Alain > Jourgensen and Mike Scaccia as "guests", and Shadow Of Doubt has > whatshisname .. Bobby > Gustafsson or something .. former Overkill guitarist. > > File under "decent but not overly exciting industrial metal" i guess. > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. 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From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 13:53:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:53:07 +0100 Subject: (Fwd) Re: [kj] Good Interview Message-ID: <6a87b776a89aff.6a89aff6a87b77@iol.cz> ad Skrewdriver=2E=2E=2E that makes me think that carcrash can be a good t= hing in some special cases=2E-))) ----- P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va ----- Od=3A Phillipps Marc =3CMarc=2EPhillipps=40enfield=2Enhs=2Euk=3E Datum=3A =FAter=FD=2C 4=2E listopadu 2003 v 2=3A32 odp P=F8edm=ECt=3A RE=3A (Fwd) Re=3A =5Bkj=5D Good Interview =3E =3ESkrew were on Invisible records=2C err=2E=2E I = =3E think=2C same label deisgn as Murder =3E Inc=2E =3E = =3E Yeah=2C I found out the other night I=27ve = =3E actually got some stuff by them (that =3E memorable !) on Invisible =2E =2E =2E = =3E = =3E Marc=2E =3E (why do they make me think of Skrewdriver =2E = =3E =2E not a band that deserve =3E remembering) = =3E = =3E =3E -----Original Message----- =3E =3E From=3A Stevie =22workslave=22 Robinson =3E =3E =5BSMTP=3Aheiferboy=40robinsonworld=2Efreeserve=2Eco=2Euk=5D =3E =3E Sent=3A Tuesday=2C November 04=2C 2003 1=3A24 PM =3E =3E To=3A gathering=40misera=2Enet =3E =3E Subject=3A Re=3A (Fwd) Re=3A =5Bkj=5D Good Interview =3E =3E = =3E =3E = =3E =3E Skrew were on Invisible records=2C err=2E=2E I = =3E think=2C same label deisgn as =3E =3E Murder Inc=2E =3E =3E = =3E =3E = =3E =3E = =3E =3E =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3E =3E Message date =3A Nov 04 2003=2C 11=3A02 AM = =3E =3E From =3A Bo Krogsgaard = =3E =3E To =3A gathering=40misera=2Enet = =3E =3E Copy to =3A = =3E =3E Subject =3A (Fwd) Re=3A =5Bkj=5D Good Interview = =3E =3E = =3E =3E Ack=2C i sent this to the old list address = =3E =2E=2E better late than never i guess =3E =3E =3AP = =3E =3E = =3E =3E On 29 Oct 2003 at 16=3A15=2C Phillipps Marc = =3E wrote=3A = =3E =3E = =3E =3E =3E So=2C we all know who Prong are but Varga = =3E =26 Skrew =3F=3F = =3E =3E =3E Any information on these two =3F Do they = =3E sound like KJ =3F=3F = =3E =3E = =3E =3E Skrew sounds a bit like Ministry but are = =3E unrelated to Killing Joke=2C music =3E =3E wise and otherwise=2E = =3E =3E Didn=27t know they were still around=2E = =3E =3E = =3E =3E They have four albums out=2C at least two of = =3E them are decent=2E Angel Seed =3E =3E XXIII has Alain = =3E =3E Jourgensen and Mike Scaccia as =22guests=22=2C = =3E and Shadow Of Doubt has =3E =3E whatshisname =2E=2E Bobby = =3E =3E Gustafsson or something =2E=2E former Overkill = =3E guitarist=2E = =3E =3E = =3E =3E File under =22decent but not overly exciting = =3E industrial metal=22 i guess=2E = =3E =3E = =3E =3E = =3E =3E b = =3E =3E = =3E =3E = =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F = =3E =3E Gathering mailing list = =3E =3E Gathering=40misera=2Enet = =3E =3E = =3E http=3A//four=2Epairlist=2Enet/mailman/listinfo/gathering = =3E =3E = =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=3E= Gathering mailing list =3E =3E Gathering=40misera=2Enet =3E =3E = =3E http=3A//four=2Epairlist=2Enet/mailman/listinfo/gathering=3E = =3E =3E = =3E This communication may contain information = =3E that is confidential and legally =3E privileged=2E It is for the exclusive use of = =3E the intended recipient(s)=2E If you =3E are not the intended recipient(s)=2C please = =3E note that any form of =3E distribution=2C copying or use of this = =3E communication or the information within =3E is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful=2E = =3E If you have received this =3E communication in error=2C please return it to = =3E the sender=2C then delete and =3E destroy any copies of it=2E The Health = =3E Informatics Service disclaims any =3E liability for action taken reliant on the = =3E content of this message=2E This =3E communication is from the Health Informatics = =3E Service serving Barnet Enfield =3E =26 Haringey Health Communities=2E =3E = =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E Gathering mailing list =3E Gathering=40misera=2Enet =3E http=3A//four=2Epairlist=2Enet/mailman/listinfo/gathering =3E From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 13:58:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:58:05 +0100 Subject: (Fwd) Re: [kj] Good Interview In-Reply-To: <18992091.1067952261903.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> Message-ID: <3FA7BE7D.4377.10FE7AB@localhost> On 4 Nov 2003 at 14:24, Stevie "workslave" Robinson wrote: > Skrew were on Invisible records, err.. I think, same label deisgn as Murder Inc. I can only find Shadow Of Doubt right now, but that one was on Metal Blade. b From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 14:37:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:37:27 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCD9@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A2E1.2B5F5E3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bring back ZigZag - that's what I say... Does anyone else remember this = classic alternative music magazine? I can't find much about it on the = web, but I did stumble upon a site on one of it's authors, (Mick = Sinclair), which has a number of interesting articles, (including 2 on = Killing Joke): http://micksinclair.com/index.html =20 Jane -----Original Message----- From: Alex Smith [mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net] Sent: 03 November 2003 23:53 To: gathering@misera.net; gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't been worth the paper it's shoddily printed on = for about twenty-two years. There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is so = hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, = but they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably = comprehensive. Alex in NYC ---------- From: "fluw" To: Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, kicks! there are many = "underground" mags actually. just none for crust dwellers. =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Smith =20 To: gathering@misera.net ; = gathering@misera.net =20 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? "Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up = for - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?" ::::sigh:::: Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at = least bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively = or not is another matter). Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "J.Paul Owens" > >To: gathering@misera.net =20 >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM > >>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned = Brit >>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly = >>Brits >>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, = notably the >>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of = Leon >>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking = **AWFUL** >>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The = Best >>of `03". > > >Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up = for -=20 > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > >jp > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!=20 >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net =20 http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering = =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A2E1.2B5F5E3C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
Bring=20 back ZigZag - that's what I say... Does anyone else remember this = classic=20 alternative music magazine? I can't find much about it on the web, but I = did=20 stumble upon a site on one of it's authors, (Mick Sinclair), which has a = number=20 of interesting articles, (including 2 on Killing Joke): http://micksinclair.com/index= .html
 
Jane
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Smith=20 [mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net]
Sent: 03 November 2003=20 23:53
To: gathering@misera.net;=20 gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's = the=20 matter with you?


MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't = been worth=20 the paper it's shoddily printed on for about twenty-two = years.

There=20 are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is so = hated. I=20 mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, but = they're at=20 least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably=20 comprehensive.

Alex in NYC

----------
From: "fluw"=20 <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
To: = <gathering@misera.net>
Subject:=20 Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
Date: Mon, Nov 3, = 2003,=20 6:35 PM


we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's = own,=20 kicks! there are many "underground" mags actually. just none for = crust=20 dwellers.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Smith = <mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net>=20  
To: gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net> =  ; gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net>=20  
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with = you?


"Serves you right for buying Q magazine really =  -=20 what'd you pick it up for
-  the Dido article or the = Eagles=20 retrospective?"

::::sigh::::

Ever read any Yank = music mags,=20 JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least
bother to = acknoledge bands=20 I like (whether they reveiw them positively or
not is another=20 matter).

Alex in = NYC




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>From:=20 "J.Paul Owens" <john_paul_owens@hotmail.com = <mailto:john_paul_owens@hotmail.com>=20 >
>To: gathering@misera.net=20 <mailto:gathering@misera.net>=20
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with=20 you?
>Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03=20 PM
>

>>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the = latest=20 issue of much-maligned Brit
>>music periodical, Q = magazine, I've=20 finally heard two bands those silly =
>>Brits
>>have been=20 spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably=20 the
>>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the = States'=20 own Kings of Leon
>>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm = fuckin'=20 shocked at how fucking **AWFUL**
>>they both are....and = they're=20 the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best
>>of=20 `03".
>
>
>Serves you right for buying Q = magazine really=20  - what'd you pick it up for -
>  the Dido = article or the=20 Eagles=20 = retrospective?
>
>jp
>
>_________________________= ________________________________________
>It's=20 fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! =
>http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A2E1.2B5F5E3C-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 14:55:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 09:55:16 -0500 Subject: (Fwd) Re: [kj] Good Interview Message-ID: <6911D710.54585BBA.398839F0@aol.com> Isn't Skrewdriver that Nazi band? They havn't been able to play in Boston because anti-racists would KICK THEIR ASS! I participated in a pretty good anti-nazi demo outside of Boston about a year ago--40 racists were heckled, spit on, and beaten up by several hundred demonstrators in a small city! No free speech for nazis! From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:01:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:01:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP In-Reply-To: <20031104101427.F023E7276@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20031104150157.22453.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Rob! This is awesome stuff. What's next? How about ANY instance of Let's All Go being played live (i'd say that's wishful thinking x 1000). Leigh --- Rob's Arse wrote: > > http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk > > follow the link to Roskilde. > The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to > join two tracks, as this is where the tape got > turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. Anyway, > have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is > is hyper mode! > > Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. > > What's next???? > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:07:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:07:12 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <20031104101427.F023E7276@sitemail.everyone.net> <000b01c3a2c2$bdd2cd90$1c9a9151@sn7212787026> Message-ID: <004701c3a2e5$53ea9980$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C3A2BB.6A41FF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <> this roskilde gig was 29-6-84 !!!!!! classic avalanche of two tone = church bells joke...the best kj gig ever recorded imo=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ford Prefect=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [kj] ROSKILDE UP ambarseador, with these mp3s you are spoiling us. What year was this? unfortunately it seems metallica have claimed the wait and i can't get = wardance either. graham ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rob's Arse=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper = mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C3A2BB.6A41FF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<<What year was this?=20 graham>>
 
 
this roskilde gig was 29-6-84  =20 !!!!!! classic avalanche of two tone church bells joke...the = best kj=20 gig ever recorded imo 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ford=20 Prefect
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 5:59=20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

ambarseador, with = these mp3s you=20 are spoiling us. What year was this?
 
unfortunately it = seems metallica=20 have claimed the wait and i can't get wardance either.
 
graham
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rob's Arse =
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 10:14=20 AM
Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP


http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. = I had to=20 join two tracks, as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a = bad job=20 I'm afraid.. Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz = is is=20 hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


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------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C3A2BB.6A41FF40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:12:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:12:12 -0500 Subject: [kj] roskilde omission Message-ID: <005601c3a2e6$06e5b100$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C3A2BC.1D570760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rob=20 the roskilde list is missing good samaritan...do you have it on your = copy? ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C3A2BC.1D570760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
rob
 
the roskilde list is missing good samaritan...do you = have it=20 on your copy? 
------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C3A2BC.1D570760-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:12:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:12:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? In-Reply-To: <200311041248.hA4Cm9gt001561@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031104151240.99179.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> heheh, thanks. I'm not, I was just curious what they considered to be the best of 2003. And yeah, by the way, i agree that the The Darkness track is bullshit. Stupid winky wink, nudge nudge metal bands, god! so annoying! i bet at least one of them wore a Motley Crue T-Shirt and thought he was being clever. Leigh --- Alex Smith wrote: > > > Ah....let's see. Jane's Addiction (good!), Sean Paul > (crap!), Muse (I kinda > like them), Athlete (don't know'em, but they suck), > Mars Volta > (bleh!).....and some other crap I can't remember. > Don't bother seeking it > out. > > Alex in NYC > > > ---------- > >From: Leigh Newton > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter > with you? > >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 9:57 PM > > > > >What else was on there? > > > >Leigh > > > >--- Alex Smith wrote: > >> > >> Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue > of > >> much-maligned Brit > >> music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard > two > >> bands those silly Brits > >> have been spilling their lager all over > themselves > >> in praising, notably the > >> Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the > >> States' own Kings of Leon > >> ("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked > at > >> how fucking **AWFUL** > >> they both are....and they're the first two cuts > on a > >> disc dubbed "The Best > >> of `03". > >> > >> Fuckin' dire, dire crap. > >> > >> > >> Alex in NYC > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gathering mailing list > >> Gathering@misera.net > >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > >===== > >http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com > >http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com > >http://www.mp3.com/tweek > >http://www.mp3.com/green_lung > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > >http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:25:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (pr 001) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:25:02 -0500 Subject: [kj] tone talk Message-ID: that's a shame they couldn't afford to get the burmans. (where's a russian billionaire when you need one?) i'm sure you're right about this being partly resposible for the change in timbre. it'd be interesting to know just how much GB wanted. but i think there's more to it that that. it sounds to me like geordie is deliberately using a much more abrasive, screaching sound that isn't just a result of inferior amplification. i don't think it's something he can't avoid, but rather something he actually wants. maybe he's using different strings (the effect reminds me of how my guitar sounds with brand new strings. i don't know too much about the technical side but maybe that's part of it). i'm thinking of songs like 'seeing red' and 'blood on your hands', not the "chuggers". i'm not saying i don't like the sound, but i'd like to hear it on select tracks only, and still have the old style for the rest. like you say, he still works miracles most of us can only dream of. and i do like those little live embelishments that people have noticed from the bootlegs. ps what a shame we didn't know before hand that SIMPLY RED would be using the same tour bus - raven could have planted a bomb. >From: "fluw" > >live on this '03 tour there are hints of the harmonics and bells in >geordie's tone not heard on the record, it sounds like a very chuggy >version of the extremities tone. although you'll never get to me was killer >tone wise. live the chime is still there, unfortunately it is being >obfuscated by and imbued with the red hot searing grind of his current >amplification. the tones of course are no where near the glory days, but >geordie and his instrument still produce those sounds and i suspect and it >is the amplification that is smothering those complexities. > >some examples of when his new tone excelled live are: the harmonics on the >wait, these were impressive - being both growly and punchy. >the ringing notes on the chorus of total invasion had more life live than >on record. >blood on your hands had different qualities live as well, especially the >single note vamp on the bridge instrumental break. >seeing red had some chimmy moments that excelled over the record as well. > >that said, when hearing kings and queens live his new tones are very >substandard to the original, and there are moments in k&Qs, particularly >during the descending riff on the break were the harmonic twang needs to >jump out of the mix and grab you by the throat yet didn't. it was a bit >disappointing. > >stopping at a guitar store in d.c. while on our way to the baltimore gig >last week ,adam and i started messing with an mid 50's es225 thinline >unamplified. this instrument has the same trapeze tailpiece bridge combo as >those on geordie's es295s. this 225 expressed geordie's riffs with the same >overtones and rubbery chimming twang as you can here on recordings from 82 >- 89. >so acoustically these type of guitars inherently possess those complex >geordie 'esque sounds. unfortunately geordie's current amplification is >suppressing them! that is ok if you like the newer sounds, which i do, but >not to the degree that that is all from his tone that i want to hear. it >would be nice to have those sterling growl and howl tones of the mid >eighties incorporated more prominently. > >one reason for his current tone is probably due to preamp distortion. it is >frustrating because the preamp chug gives the listener the illusion of >volume and intensity which sounds good initially but it can wear thin and >anemic lacking those punchy dynamics of the unadulterated tone and chime of >rich power amp voltage spikes. it would be nice if geordie had the luxury >of using a more high fidelity option, which contains those dense harmonics >and frequency characteristics of the original source the (es295) as his >main tone and get the distortion via pick attack, then just incorporate the >marshall preamp distortion chug tones heard on the new record for those >tunes where the song needs the flatter more synthetic little barking poodle >dog chug. > >one other note on the amplification; i had forwarded gregg burman's email >to geordie and raven last april. the word, as you all probably remember by >my constant cheerleading on the subject was that they had established >contact with gregg and both geordie and raven had hopes they would be >getting amps made for the present tour. well unfortunately for those hoping >to hear geordie once again through burman amps - raven and geordie last >week mentioned that the cost for the custom amplifiers ended up being so >stupifyingly high they just could not feasibly get them made! > >all that said, geordie's newest tone is remarkable in comparison to what >mortal guitarists get and i enjoy/ed hearing it on this record and tour. > >but maybe the gathering should pass the collection basket in order to here >the 'whole' geordie. _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:35:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:35:24 -0500 Subject: [kj] tone talk References: Message-ID: <007901c3a2e9$440d2e20$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C3A2BF.5AC1A800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i agree, it isn't just amplification. geordie is deliberately using a = more abrasive tone.=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: pr 001=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk that's a shame they couldn't afford to get the burmans. (where's a = russian=20 billionaire when you need one?) i'm sure you're right about this being = partly resposible for the change in timbre. it'd be interesting to = know just=20 how much GB wanted. but i think there's more to it that that. it sounds to me like geordie = is=20 deliberately using a much more abrasive, screaching sound that isn't = just a=20 result of inferior amplification. i don't think it's something he = can't=20 avoid, but rather something he actually wants. maybe he's using = different=20 strings (the effect reminds me of how my guitar sounds with brand new=20 strings. i don't know too much about the technical side but maybe = that's=20 part of it). i'm thinking of songs like 'seeing red' and 'blood on = your=20 hands', not the "chuggers". i'm not saying i don't like the sound, but i'd like to hear it on = select=20 tracks only, and still have the old style for the rest. like you say, = he=20 still works miracles most of us can only dream of. and i do like those = little live embelishments that people have noticed from the bootlegs. ps what a shame we didn't know before hand that SIMPLY RED would be = using=20 the same tour bus - raven could have planted a bomb. >From: "fluw" > >live on this '03 tour there are hints of the harmonics and bells in=20 >geordie's tone not heard on the record, it sounds like a very chuggy=20 >version of the extremities tone. although you'll never get to me was = killer=20 >tone wise. live the chime is still there, unfortunately it is being=20 >obfuscated by and imbued with the red hot searing grind of his = current=20 >amplification. the tones of course are no where near the glory days, = but=20 >geordie and his instrument still produce those sounds and i suspect = and it=20 >is the amplification that is smothering those complexities. > >some examples of when his new tone excelled live are: the harmonics = on the=20 >wait, these were impressive - being both growly and punchy. >the ringing notes on the chorus of total invasion had more life live = than=20 >on record. >blood on your hands had different qualities live as well, especially = the=20 >single note vamp on the bridge instrumental break. >seeing red had some chimmy moments that excelled over the record as = well. > >that said, when hearing kings and queens live his new tones are very=20 >substandard to the original, and there are moments in k&Qs, = particularly=20 >during the descending riff on the break were the harmonic twang needs = to=20 >jump out of the mix and grab you by the throat yet didn't. it was a = bit=20 >disappointing. > >stopping at a guitar store in d.c. while on our way to the baltimore = gig=20 >last week ,adam and i started messing with an mid 50's es225 thinline = >unamplified. this instrument has the same trapeze tailpiece bridge = combo as=20 >those on geordie's es295s. this 225 expressed geordie's riffs with = the same=20 >overtones and rubbery chimming twang as you can here on recordings = from 82=20 >- 89. >so acoustically these type of guitars inherently possess those = complex=20 >geordie 'esque sounds. unfortunately geordie's current amplification = is=20 >suppressing them! that is ok if you like the newer sounds, which i = do, but=20 >not to the degree that that is all from his tone that i want to hear. = it=20 >would be nice to have those sterling growl and howl tones of the mid=20 >eighties incorporated more prominently. > >one reason for his current tone is probably due to preamp distortion. = it is=20 >frustrating because the preamp chug gives the listener the illusion = of=20 >volume and intensity which sounds good initially but it can wear thin = and=20 >anemic lacking those punchy dynamics of the unadulterated tone and = chime of=20 >rich power amp voltage spikes. it would be nice if geordie had the = luxury=20 >of using a more high fidelity option, which contains those dense = harmonics=20 >and frequency characteristics of the original source the (es295) as = his=20 >main tone and get the distortion via pick attack, then just = incorporate the=20 >marshall preamp distortion chug tones heard on the new record for = those=20 >tunes where the song needs the flatter more synthetic little barking = poodle=20 >dog chug. > >one other note on the amplification; i had forwarded gregg burman's = email=20 >to geordie and raven last april. the word, as you all probably = remember by=20 >my constant cheerleading on the subject was that they had established = >contact with gregg and both geordie and raven had hopes they would be = >getting amps made for the present tour. well unfortunately for those = hoping=20 >to hear geordie once again through burman amps - raven and geordie = last=20 >week mentioned that the cost for the custom amplifiers ended up being = so=20 >stupifyingly high they just could not feasibly get them made! > >all that said, geordie's newest tone is remarkable in comparison to = what=20 >mortal guitarists get and i enjoy/ed hearing it on this record and = tour. > >but maybe the gathering should pass the collection basket in order to = here=20 >the 'whole' geordie. _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. =20 https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C3A2BF.5AC1A800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i agree, it isn't just amplification.=20 geordie is deliberately using a more abrasive = tone. 
 
 
 
 
    
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 pr 001
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 10:25=20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] tone = talk

that's a shame they couldn't afford to get the burmans. = (where's a russian
billionaire when you need one?) i'm sure you're = right=20 about this being
partly resposible for the change in timbre. it'd = be=20 interesting to know just
how much GB wanted.

but i think = there's=20 more to it that that. it sounds to me like geordie is
deliberately = using a=20 much more abrasive, screaching sound that isn't just a
result of = inferior=20 amplification. i don't think it's something he can't
avoid, but = rather=20 something he actually wants. maybe he's using different
strings = (the=20 effect reminds me of how my guitar sounds with brand new
strings. = i don't=20 know too much about the technical side but maybe that's
part of = it). i'm=20 thinking of songs like 'seeing red' and 'blood on your
hands', not = the=20 "chuggers".

i'm not saying i don't like the sound, but i'd like = to hear=20 it on select
tracks only, and still have the old style for the = rest. like=20 you say, he
still works miracles most of us can only dream of. and = i do=20 like those
little live embelishments that people have noticed from = the=20 bootlegs.

ps what a shame we didn't know before hand that = SIMPLY RED=20 would be using
the same tour bus - raven could have planted a=20 bomb.

>From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
&g= t;
>live=20 on this '03 tour there are hints of the harmonics and bells in=20
>geordie's tone not heard on the record, it sounds like a very = chuggy=20
>version of the extremities tone. although you'll never get to = me was=20 killer
>tone wise. live the chime is still there, unfortunately = it is=20 being
>obfuscated by and imbued with the red hot searing grind = of his=20 current
>amplification. the tones of course are no where near = the glory=20 days, but
>geordie and his instrument still produce those = sounds and i=20 suspect and it
>is the amplification that is smothering those=20 complexities.
>
>some examples of when his new tone = excelled live=20 are: the harmonics on the
>wait, these were impressive - being = both=20 growly and punchy.
>the ringing notes on the chorus of total = invasion=20 had more life live than
>on record.
>blood on your hands = had=20 different qualities live as well, especially the
>single note = vamp on=20 the bridge instrumental break.
>seeing red had some chimmy = moments that=20 excelled over the record as well.
>
>that said, when = hearing kings=20 and queens live his new tones are very
>substandard to the = original,=20 and there are moments in k&Qs, particularly
>during the = descending=20 riff on the break were the harmonic twang needs to
>jump out of = the mix=20 and grab you by the throat yet didn't. it was a bit=20
>disappointing.
>
>stopping at a guitar store in = d.c. while=20 on our way to the baltimore gig
>last week ,adam and i started = messing=20 with an mid 50's es225 thinline
>unamplified. this instrument = has the=20 same trapeze tailpiece bridge combo as
>those on geordie's = es295s. this=20 225 expressed geordie's riffs with the same
>overtones and = rubbery=20 chimming twang as you can here on recordings from 82
>- = 89.
>so=20 acoustically these type of guitars inherently possess those complex=20
>geordie 'esque sounds. unfortunately geordie's current = amplification=20 is
>suppressing them! that is ok if you like the newer sounds, = which i=20 do, but
>not to the degree that that is all from his tone that = i want=20 to hear. it
>would be nice to have those sterling growl and = howl tones=20 of the mid
>eighties incorporated more = prominently.
>
>one=20 reason for his current tone is probably due to preamp distortion. it = is=20
>frustrating because the preamp chug gives the listener the = illusion of=20
>volume and intensity which sounds good initially but it can = wear thin=20 and
>anemic lacking those punchy dynamics of the unadulterated = tone and=20 chime of
>rich power amp voltage spikes. it would be nice if = geordie=20 had the luxury
>of using a more high fidelity option, which = contains=20 those dense harmonics
>and frequency characteristics of the = original=20 source the (es295) as his
>main tone and get the distortion via = pick=20 attack, then just incorporate the
>marshall preamp distortion = chug=20 tones heard on the new record for those
>tunes where the song = needs the=20 flatter more synthetic little barking poodle
>dog=20 chug.
>
>one other note on the amplification; i had = forwarded=20 gregg burman's email
>to geordie and raven last april. the = word, as you=20 all probably remember by
>my constant cheerleading on the = subject was=20 that they had established
>contact with gregg and both geordie = and=20 raven had hopes they would be
>getting amps made for the = present tour.=20 well unfortunately for those hoping
>to hear geordie once again = through=20 burman amps - raven and geordie last
>week mentioned that the = cost for=20 the custom amplifiers ended up being so
>stupifyingly high they = just=20 could not feasibly get them made!
>
>all that said, = geordie's=20 newest tone is remarkable in comparison to what
>mortal = guitarists get=20 and i enjoy/ed hearing it on this record and tour.
>
>but = maybe=20 the gathering should pass the collection basket in order to here =
>the=20 'whole'=20 = geordie.

_________________________________________________________= ________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C3A2BF.5AC1A800-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:37:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:37:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] roskilde omission Message-ID: <20031104153707.07377398E@sitemail.everyone.net> Conratulations Todd You win the "spot the deliberate mistake on the Roskilde MP3s" competition. You get to choose a prize from the following: A signed picture of my arse or http://www.baldybob.clara.co.uk/goodsamaritan.mp3 Cheers Rob --- "fluw" wrote: rob the roskilde list is missing good samaritan...do you have it on your copy? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:37:28 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:37:28 -0500 Subject: [kj] tone talk References: Message-ID: <008401c3a2e9$8e23dae0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C3A2BF.A4E17C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <> it was around 5,000 pounds! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: pr 001=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk that's a shame they couldn't afford to get the burmans. (where's a = russian=20 billionaire when you need one?) i'm sure you're right about this being = partly resposible for the change in timbre. it'd be interesting to = know just=20 how much GB wanted. but i think there's more to it that that. it sounds to me like geordie = is=20 deliberately using a much more abrasive, screaching sound that isn't = just a=20 result of inferior amplification. i don't think it's something he = can't=20 avoid, but rather something he actually wants. maybe he's using = different=20 strings (the effect reminds me of how my guitar sounds with brand new=20 strings. i don't know too much about the technical side but maybe = that's=20 part of it). i'm thinking of songs like 'seeing red' and 'blood on = your=20 hands', not the "chuggers". i'm not saying i don't like the sound, but i'd like to hear it on = select=20 tracks only, and still have the old style for the rest. like you say, = he=20 still works miracles most of us can only dream of. and i do like those = little live embelishments that people have noticed from the bootlegs. ps what a shame we didn't know before hand that SIMPLY RED would be = using=20 the same tour bus - raven could have planted a bomb. >From: "fluw" > >live on this '03 tour there are hints of the harmonics and bells in=20 >geordie's tone not heard on the record, it sounds like a very chuggy=20 >version of the extremities tone. although you'll never get to me was = killer=20 >tone wise. live the chime is still there, unfortunately it is being=20 >obfuscated by and imbued with the red hot searing grind of his = current=20 >amplification. the tones of course are no where near the glory days, = but=20 >geordie and his instrument still produce those sounds and i suspect = and it=20 >is the amplification that is smothering those complexities. > >some examples of when his new tone excelled live are: the harmonics = on the=20 >wait, these were impressive - being both growly and punchy. >the ringing notes on the chorus of total invasion had more life live = than=20 >on record. >blood on your hands had different qualities live as well, especially = the=20 >single note vamp on the bridge instrumental break. >seeing red had some chimmy moments that excelled over the record as = well. > >that said, when hearing kings and queens live his new tones are very=20 >substandard to the original, and there are moments in k&Qs, = particularly=20 >during the descending riff on the break were the harmonic twang needs = to=20 >jump out of the mix and grab you by the throat yet didn't. it was a = bit=20 >disappointing. > >stopping at a guitar store in d.c. while on our way to the baltimore = gig=20 >last week ,adam and i started messing with an mid 50's es225 thinline = >unamplified. this instrument has the same trapeze tailpiece bridge = combo as=20 >those on geordie's es295s. this 225 expressed geordie's riffs with = the same=20 >overtones and rubbery chimming twang as you can here on recordings = from 82=20 >- 89. >so acoustically these type of guitars inherently possess those = complex=20 >geordie 'esque sounds. unfortunately geordie's current amplification = is=20 >suppressing them! that is ok if you like the newer sounds, which i = do, but=20 >not to the degree that that is all from his tone that i want to hear. = it=20 >would be nice to have those sterling growl and howl tones of the mid=20 >eighties incorporated more prominently. > >one reason for his current tone is probably due to preamp distortion. = it is=20 >frustrating because the preamp chug gives the listener the illusion = of=20 >volume and intensity which sounds good initially but it can wear thin = and=20 >anemic lacking those punchy dynamics of the unadulterated tone and = chime of=20 >rich power amp voltage spikes. it would be nice if geordie had the = luxury=20 >of using a more high fidelity option, which contains those dense = harmonics=20 >and frequency characteristics of the original source the (es295) as = his=20 >main tone and get the distortion via pick attack, then just = incorporate the=20 >marshall preamp distortion chug tones heard on the new record for = those=20 >tunes where the song needs the flatter more synthetic little barking = poodle=20 >dog chug. > >one other note on the amplification; i had forwarded gregg burman's = email=20 >to geordie and raven last april. the word, as you all probably = remember by=20 >my constant cheerleading on the subject was that they had established = >contact with gregg and both geordie and raven had hopes they would be = >getting amps made for the present tour. well unfortunately for those = hoping=20 >to hear geordie once again through burman amps - raven and geordie = last=20 >week mentioned that the cost for the custom amplifiers ended up being = so=20 >stupifyingly high they just could not feasibly get them made! > >all that said, geordie's newest tone is remarkable in comparison to = what=20 >mortal guitarists get and i enjoy/ed hearing it on this record and = tour. > >but maybe the gathering should pass the collection basket in order to = here=20 >the 'whole' geordie. _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. =20 https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C3A2BF.A4E17C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<<it'd be interesting to know = just
how=20 much GB wanted.>>
 
 
 
it was around 5,000 pounds!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 pr 001
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 10:25=20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] tone = talk

that's a shame they couldn't afford to get the burmans. = (where's a russian
billionaire when you need one?) i'm sure you're = right=20 about this being
partly resposible for the change in timbre. it'd = be=20 interesting to know just
how much GB wanted.

but i think = there's=20 more to it that that. it sounds to me like geordie is
deliberately = using a=20 much more abrasive, screaching sound that isn't just a
result of = inferior=20 amplification. i don't think it's something he can't
avoid, but = rather=20 something he actually wants. maybe he's using different
strings = (the=20 effect reminds me of how my guitar sounds with brand new
strings. = i don't=20 know too much about the technical side but maybe that's
part of = it). i'm=20 thinking of songs like 'seeing red' and 'blood on your
hands', not = the=20 "chuggers".

i'm not saying i don't like the sound, but i'd like = to hear=20 it on select
tracks only, and still have the old style for the = rest. like=20 you say, he
still works miracles most of us can only dream of. and = i do=20 like those
little live embelishments that people have noticed from = the=20 bootlegs.

ps what a shame we didn't know before hand that = SIMPLY RED=20 would be using
the same tour bus - raven could have planted a=20 bomb.

>From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
&g= t;
>live=20 on this '03 tour there are hints of the harmonics and bells in=20
>geordie's tone not heard on the record, it sounds like a very = chuggy=20
>version of the extremities tone. although you'll never get to = me was=20 killer
>tone wise. live the chime is still there, unfortunately = it is=20 being
>obfuscated by and imbued with the red hot searing grind = of his=20 current
>amplification. the tones of course are no where near = the glory=20 days, but
>geordie and his instrument still produce those = sounds and i=20 suspect and it
>is the amplification that is smothering those=20 complexities.
>
>some examples of when his new tone = excelled live=20 are: the harmonics on the
>wait, these were impressive - being = both=20 growly and punchy.
>the ringing notes on the chorus of total = invasion=20 had more life live than
>on record.
>blood on your hands = had=20 different qualities live as well, especially the
>single note = vamp on=20 the bridge instrumental break.
>seeing red had some chimmy = moments that=20 excelled over the record as well.
>
>that said, when = hearing kings=20 and queens live his new tones are very
>substandard to the = original,=20 and there are moments in k&Qs, particularly
>during the = descending=20 riff on the break were the harmonic twang needs to
>jump out of = the mix=20 and grab you by the throat yet didn't. it was a bit=20
>disappointing.
>
>stopping at a guitar store in = d.c. while=20 on our way to the baltimore gig
>last week ,adam and i started = messing=20 with an mid 50's es225 thinline
>unamplified. this instrument = has the=20 same trapeze tailpiece bridge combo as
>those on geordie's = es295s. this=20 225 expressed geordie's riffs with the same
>overtones and = rubbery=20 chimming twang as you can here on recordings from 82
>- = 89.
>so=20 acoustically these type of guitars inherently possess those complex=20
>geordie 'esque sounds. unfortunately geordie's current = amplification=20 is
>suppressing them! that is ok if you like the newer sounds, = which i=20 do, but
>not to the degree that that is all from his tone that = i want=20 to hear. it
>would be nice to have those sterling growl and = howl tones=20 of the mid
>eighties incorporated more = prominently.
>
>one=20 reason for his current tone is probably due to preamp distortion. it = is=20
>frustrating because the preamp chug gives the listener the = illusion of=20
>volume and intensity which sounds good initially but it can = wear thin=20 and
>anemic lacking those punchy dynamics of the unadulterated = tone and=20 chime of
>rich power amp voltage spikes. it would be nice if = geordie=20 had the luxury
>of using a more high fidelity option, which = contains=20 those dense harmonics
>and frequency characteristics of the = original=20 source the (es295) as his
>main tone and get the distortion via = pick=20 attack, then just incorporate the
>marshall preamp distortion = chug=20 tones heard on the new record for those
>tunes where the song = needs the=20 flatter more synthetic little barking poodle
>dog=20 chug.
>
>one other note on the amplification; i had = forwarded=20 gregg burman's email
>to geordie and raven last april. the = word, as you=20 all probably remember by
>my constant cheerleading on the = subject was=20 that they had established
>contact with gregg and both geordie = and=20 raven had hopes they would be
>getting amps made for the = present tour.=20 well unfortunately for those hoping
>to hear geordie once again = through=20 burman amps - raven and geordie last
>week mentioned that the = cost for=20 the custom amplifiers ended up being so
>stupifyingly high they = just=20 could not feasibly get them made!
>
>all that said, = geordie's=20 newest tone is remarkable in comparison to what
>mortal = guitarists get=20 and i enjoy/ed hearing it on this record and tour.
>
>but = maybe=20 the gathering should pass the collection basket in order to here =
>the=20 'whole'=20 = geordie.

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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01C3A2BF.A4E17C80-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:39:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:39:59 +0100 Subject: [kj] roskilde omission In-Reply-To: <20031104153707.07377398E@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <3FA7D65F.16897.16D3204@localhost> On 4 Nov 2003 at 7:37, Rob's Arse wrote: > http://www.baldybob.clara.co.uk/goodsamaritan.mp3 And where in the track listing does that fit in? b From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:45:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Saxton) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:45:12 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? References: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCD9@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> Message-ID: <004e01c3a2ea$a2cf56d0$e6b72ad9@musicpc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C3A2EA.A21814C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?ZigZag was the best mag = from my fave era, the bands in there from KJ through Danse Society, = early Cult,Getting the Fear,Birthday Party,Gene Loves Jezebel,Bauhaus = and everyone else interesting inbetween.Somebody should set up an = archive, it was that good. I still have a load of articles buried away = somewhere.What was that later mag with Jaz on the cover setting fire to = the NME? ah,remembered Indiecator. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: RE: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Bring back ZigZag - that's what I say... Does anyone else remember = this classic alternative music magazine? I can't find much about it on = the web, but I did stumble upon a site on one of it's authors, (Mick = Sinclair), which has a number of interesting articles, (including 2 on = Killing Joke): http://micksinclair.com/index.html Jane -----Original Message----- From: Alex Smith [mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net] Sent: 03 November 2003 23:53 To: gathering@misera.net; gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't been worth the paper it's shoddily printed = on for about twenty-two years. There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q = is so hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any = stretch, but they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and = resonably comprehensive. Alex in NYC ---------- From: "fluw" To: Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, kicks! there are = many "underground" mags actually. just none for crust dwellers. =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Smith =20 To: gathering@misera.net ; = gathering@misera.net =20 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? "Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you = pick it up for - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?" ::::sigh:::: Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. = Q at least bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them = positively or not is another matter). Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "J.Paul Owens" > >To: gathering@misera.net =20 >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM > >>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of = much-maligned Brit >>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands = those silly=20 >>Brits >>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in = praising, notably the >>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own = Kings of Leon >>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how = fucking **AWFUL** >>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc = dubbed "The Best >>of `03". > > >Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you = pick it up for -=20 > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > >jp > = >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!=20 >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net =20 http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C3A2EA.A21814C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with = you?
ZigZag was the best mag from my fave = era, the bands=20 in there from KJ through Danse Society, early Cult,Getting the = Fear,Birthday=20 Party,Gene Loves Jezebel,Bauhaus and everyone else interesting=20 inbetween.Somebody should set up an archive, it was that good. I still = have a=20 load of articles buried away somewhere.What was that later mag with Jaz = on the=20 cover setting fire to the NME?  ah,remembered = Indiecator.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Shadforth, Jane E = SUKOP-UOIT/42=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 2:37=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: England, = what's the=20 matter with you?

Bring back ZigZag - that's what I say... Does anyone else = remember this=20 classic alternative music magazine? I can't find much about it on the = web, but=20 I did stumble upon a site on one of it's authors, (Mick Sinclair), = which has a=20 number of interesting articles, (including 2 on Killing Joke): http://micksinclair.com/index= .html
 
Jane
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Smith=20 [mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net]
Sent: 03 November 2003=20 23:53
To: gathering@misera.net;=20 gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's = the=20 matter with you?


MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't = been=20 worth the paper it's shoddily printed on for about twenty-two=20 years.

There are great little rags, but I don't entirely = understand=20 why Q is so hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by = any=20 stretch, but they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) = and=20 resonably comprehensive.

Alex in = NYC

----------
From:=20 "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
To:=20 <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, = what's the=20 matter with you?
Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM


we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ = nyc's own,=20 kicks! there are many "underground" mags actually. just none for = crust=20 dwellers.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex = Smith=20 <mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net>=20  
To: gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net> =  ;=20 gathering@misera.net = <mailto:gathering@misera.net>=20  
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter = with=20 you?


"Serves you right for buying Q magazine really =  -=20 what'd you pick it up for
-  the Dido article or the = Eagles=20 retrospective?"

::::sigh::::

Ever read any Yank = music=20 mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least
bother to=20 acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively = or
not=20 is another matter).

Alex in=20 NYC




----------
>From: "J.Paul Owens" = <john_paul_owens@hotmail.com = <mailto:john_paul_owens@hotmail.com>=20 >
>To: gathering@misera.net=20 <mailto:gathering@misera.net>=20
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with=20 you?
>Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03=20 PM
>

>>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the = latest=20 issue of much-maligned Brit
>>music periodical, Q = magazine,=20 I've finally heard two bands those silly=20
>>Brits
>>have been spilling their lager all = over=20 themselves in praising, notably the
>>Darkness ("Get = Your Hands=20 Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of = Leon
>>("Red=20 Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking=20 **AWFUL**
>>they both are....and they're the first two = cuts on=20 a disc dubbed "The Best
>>of=20 `03".
>
>
>Serves you right for buying Q = magazine=20 really  - what'd you pick it up for -
>  the = Dido=20 article or the Eagles=20 = retrospective?
>
>jp
>
>_________________________= ________________________________________
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>http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
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------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C3A2EA.A21814C0-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:45:44 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:45:44 -0000 Subject: [kj] tone talk Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0F6@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >it was around 5,000 pounds! That's a pricey amp ! You could get a couple of handbuilt Matchless amps for that . . > -----Original Message----- > From: fluw [SMTP:fluwdot@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:37 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk > > < how much GB wanted.>> > > > > it was around 5,000 pounds! > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pr 001 > To: gathering@misera.net > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:25 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk > > that's a shame they couldn't afford to get the burmans. (where's a russian > > billionaire when you need one?) i'm sure you're right about this being > partly resposible for the change in timbre. it'd be interesting to know > just > how much GB wanted. > > but i think there's more to it that that. it sounds to me like geordie is > deliberately using a much more abrasive, screaching sound that isn't just > a > result of inferior amplification. i don't think it's something he can't > avoid, but rather something he actually wants. maybe he's using different > strings (the effect reminds me of how my guitar sounds with brand new > strings. i don't know too much about the technical side but maybe that's > part of it). i'm thinking of songs like 'seeing red' and 'blood on your > hands', not the "chuggers". > > i'm not saying i don't like the sound, but i'd like to hear it on select > tracks only, and still have the old style for the rest. like you say, he > still works miracles most of us can only dream of. and i do like those > little live embelishments that people have noticed from the bootlegs. > > ps what a shame we didn't know before hand that SIMPLY RED would be using > the same tour bus - raven could have planted a bomb. > > >From: "fluw" < fluwdot@earthlink.net > > > > >live on this '03 tour there are hints of the harmonics and bells in > >geordie's tone not heard on the record, it sounds like a very chuggy > >version of the extremities tone. although you'll never get to me was > killer > >tone wise. live the chime is still there, unfortunately it is being > >obfuscated by and imbued with the red hot searing grind of his current > >amplification. the tones of course are no where near the glory days, but > >geordie and his instrument still produce those sounds and i suspect and > it > >is the amplification that is smothering those complexities. > > > >some examples of when his new tone excelled live are: the harmonics on > the > >wait, these were impressive - being both growly and punchy. > >the ringing notes on the chorus of total invasion had more life live than > > >on record. > >blood on your hands had different qualities live as well, especially the > >single note vamp on the bridge instrumental break. > >seeing red had some chimmy moments that excelled over the record as well. > > > >that said, when hearing kings and queens live his new tones are very > >substandard to the original, and there are moments in k&Qs, particularly > >during the descending riff on the break were the harmonic twang needs to > >jump out of the mix and grab you by the throat yet didn't. it was a bit > >disappointing. > > > >stopping at a guitar store in d.c. while on our way to the baltimore gig > >last week ,adam and i started messing with an mid 50's es225 thinline > >unamplified. this instrument has the same trapeze tailpiece bridge combo > as > >those on geordie's es295s. this 225 expressed geordie's riffs with the > same > >overtones and rubbery chimming twang as you can here on recordings from > 82 > >- 89. > >so acoustically these type of guitars inherently possess those complex > >geordie 'esque sounds. unfortunately geordie's current amplification is > >suppressing them! that is ok if you like the newer sounds, which i do, > but > >not to the degree that that is all from his tone that i want to hear. it > >would be nice to have those sterling growl and howl tones of the mid > >eighties incorporated more prominently. > > > >one reason for his current tone is probably due to preamp distortion. it > is > >frustrating because the preamp chug gives the listener the illusion of > >volume and intensity which sounds good initially but it can wear thin and > > >anemic lacking those punchy dynamics of the unadulterated tone and chime > of > >rich power amp voltage spikes. it would be nice if geordie had the luxury > > >of using a more high fidelity option, which contains those dense > harmonics > >and frequency characteristics of the original source the (es295) as his > >main tone and get the distortion via pick attack, then just incorporate > the > >marshall preamp distortion chug tones heard on the new record for those > >tunes where the song needs the flatter more synthetic little barking > poodle > >dog chug. > > > >one other note on the amplification; i had forwarded gregg burman's email > > >to geordie and raven last april. the word, as you all probably remember > by > >my constant cheerleading on the subject was that they had established > >contact with gregg and both geordie and raven had hopes they would be > >getting amps made for the present tour. well unfortunately for those > hoping > >to hear geordie once again through burman amps - raven and geordie last > >week mentioned that the cost for the custom amplifiers ended up being so > >stupifyingly high they just could not feasibly get them made! > > > >all that said, geordie's newest tone is remarkable in comparison to what > >mortal guitarists get and i enjoy/ed hearing it on this record and tour. > > > >but maybe the gathering should pass the collection basket in order to > here > >the 'whole' geordie. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. > (Prices may vary by service area.) > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:46:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:46:07 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCDA@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A2EA.C2EED5A8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That reminds me - I'll have to retrieve my magazine collection, (1979 - = 1986), from my mums at some point before she follows up on her threat to = bin them all. Even the Smash Hits from that era must have some articles = which are worth keeping. =20 Jane -----Original Message----- From: Mark Saxton [mailto:ranjeef@btopenworld.com] Sent: 04 November 2003 15:45 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? ZigZag was the best mag from my fave era, the bands in there from KJ = through Danse Society, early Cult,Getting the Fear,Birthday Party,Gene = Loves Jezebel,Bauhaus and everyone else interesting inbetween.Somebody = should set up an archive, it was that good. I still have a load of = articles buried away somewhere.What was that later mag with Jaz on the = cover setting fire to the NME? ah,remembered Indiecator. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 = To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: RE: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Bring back ZigZag - that's what I say... Does anyone else remember this = classic alternative music magazine? I can't find much about it on the = web, but I did stumble upon a site on one of it's authors, (Mick = Sinclair), which has a number of interesting articles, (including 2 on = Killing Joke): http://micksinclair.com/index.html =20 Jane -----Original Message----- From: Alex Smith [mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net] Sent: 03 November 2003 23:53 To: gathering@misera.net; gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't been worth the paper it's shoddily printed on = for about twenty-two years. There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is so = hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, = but they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably = comprehensive. Alex in NYC ---------- From: "fluw" To: Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, kicks! there are many = "underground" mags actually. just none for crust dwellers. =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Smith =20 To: gathering@misera.net ; = gathering@misera.net =20 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? "Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up = for - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?" ::::sigh:::: Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at = least bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively = or not is another matter). Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "J.Paul Owens" > >To: gathering@misera.net =20 >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM > >>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned = Brit >>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly = >>Brits >>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, = notably the >>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of = Leon >>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking = **AWFUL** >>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The = Best >>of `03". > > >Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up = for -=20 > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > >jp > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!=20 >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net =20 http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering = =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A2EA.C2EED5A8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
That=20 reminds me - I'll have to retrieve my magazine collection, (1979 -=20 1986), from my mums at some point before she follows up on her = threat to=20 bin them all. Even the Smash Hits from that era must have some articles = which=20 are worth keeping.
 
Jane
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Saxton=20 [mailto:ranjeef@btopenworld.com]
Sent: 04 November 2003=20 15:45
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] = OT:=20 England, what's the matter with you?

ZigZag was the best mag from my fave = era, the=20 bands in there from KJ through Danse Society, early Cult,Getting the=20 Fear,Birthday Party,Gene Loves Jezebel,Bauhaus and everyone else = interesting=20 inbetween.Somebody should set up an archive, it was that good. I still = have a=20 load of articles buried away somewhere.What was that later mag with = Jaz on the=20 cover setting fire to the NME?  ah,remembered = Indiecator.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Shadforth, Jane E = SUKOP-UOIT/42=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 2:37=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: = England, what's=20 the matter with you?

Bring back ZigZag - that's what I say... Does anyone else = remember=20 this classic alternative music magazine? I can't find much about it = on the=20 web, but I did stumble upon a site on one of it's authors, (Mick = Sinclair),=20 which has a number of interesting articles, (including 2 on Killing = Joke):=20 http://micksinclair.com/index= .html
 
Jane
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Smith=20 [mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net]
Sent: 03 November 2003=20 23:53
To: gathering@misera.net;=20 gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, = what's the=20 matter with you?


MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't = been=20 worth the paper it's shoddily printed on for about twenty-two=20 years.

There are great little rags, but I don't entirely = understand=20 why Q is so hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel = by any=20 stretch, but they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) = and=20 resonably comprehensive.

Alex in = NYC

----------
From:=20 "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
To:=20 <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, = what's the=20 matter with you?
Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM


we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ = nyc's own,=20 kicks! there are many "underground" mags actually. just none for = crust=20 dwellers.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex = Smith=20 <mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net>=20  
To: gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net> =  ;=20 gathering@misera.net = <mailto:gathering@misera.net>=20  
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter = with=20 you?


"Serves you right for buying Q magazine really =  -=20 what'd you pick it up for
-  the Dido article or the = Eagles=20 retrospective?"

::::sigh::::

Ever read any Yank = music=20 mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least
bother = to=20 acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively = or
not=20 is another matter).

Alex in=20 NYC




----------
>From: "J.Paul Owens"=20 <john_paul_owens@hotmail.com=20 <mailto:john_paul_owens@hotmail.com>=20 >
>To: gathering@misera.net=20 <mailto:gathering@misera.net>=20
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with=20 you?
>Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03=20 PM
>

>>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the = latest=20 issue of much-maligned Brit
>>music periodical, Q = magazine,=20 I've finally heard two bands those silly=20
>>Brits
>>have been spilling their lager = all over=20 themselves in praising, notably the
>>Darkness ("Get = Your=20 Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of=20 Leon
>>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' = shocked at=20 how fucking **AWFUL**
>>they both are....and they're = the=20 first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best
>>of=20 `03".
>
>
>Serves you right for buying Q = magazine=20 really  - what'd you pick it up for -
>  the = Dido=20 article or the Eagles=20 = retrospective?
>
>jp
>
>_________________________= ________________________________________
>It's=20 fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! =
>http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
>
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= ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A2EA.C2EED5A8-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:49:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:49:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] roskilde omission References: <3FA7D65F.16897.16D3204@localhost> Message-ID: <00a001c3a2eb$4321aac0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C3A2C1.59D624A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <> sun goes down=20 good samaritan song and dance =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bo Krogsgaard=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [kj] roskilde omission On 4 Nov 2003 at 7:37, Rob's Arse wrote: > http://www.baldybob.clara.co.uk/goodsamaritan.mp3 And where in the track listing does that fit in? b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C3A2C1.59D624A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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sun goes = down 
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C3A2C1.59D624A0-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 15:51:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:51:31 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [kj] tone talk In-Reply-To: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0F6@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phillipps Marc wrote: > >it was around 5,000 pounds! > > That's a pricey amp ! > > You could get a couple of handbuilt Matchless amps for that . . How much do the biggest of the vintage VOX amps change hands for these days? A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most likely from the 60s. --Mark From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 16:00:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:00:31 -0500 Subject: [kj] tone talk References: Message-ID: <00b601c3a2ec$c6a6af20$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C3A2C2.DD413860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the "biggest vox amps" ? like the super beatles? or the most = collectible? not sure how this compares to the "biggest vox amps" but a '64 ac30 top = boost factory mod, would could go for $2800 or so.=20 mark, which? - ("marshalls that geordie was using")=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Kolmar=20 To: 'gathering@misera.net'=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phillipps Marc wrote: > >it was around 5,000 pounds! >=20 > That's a pricey amp ! >=20 > You could get a couple of handbuilt Matchless amps for that . . How much do the biggest of the vintage VOX amps change hands for these days? A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most likely from the 60s. --Mark _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C3A2C2.DD413860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
the "biggest vox amps" ? like the super = beatles? or the=20 most collectible?
 
not sure how this compares to the "biggest vox amps" = but a '64=20 ac30 top boost factory mod, would could go for $2800 or so.=20
 
mark, which? - ("marshalls that geordie was using")=20
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 10:51=20 AM
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phillipps Marc wrote:

> = >it=20 was around 5,000 pounds!
>
> That's a pricey amp = !
>=20
> You could get a couple of handbuilt Matchless amps for that . = .

How much do the biggest of the vintage VOX amps change hands = for=20 these
days?

A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was = using=20 are most likely
from the=20 = 60s.

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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C3A2C2.DD413860-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 16:04:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:04:52 -0000 Subject: [kj] tone talk Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0F7@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most likely >from the 60s. >From memory (and my memory is rather vague . . . ) they looked like reissue Bluesbreakers ? Marc . > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Kolmar [SMTP:mark@burningrome.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:52 PM > To: 'gathering@misera.net' > Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phillipps Marc wrote: > > > >it was around 5,000 pounds! > > > > That's a pricey amp ! > > > > You could get a couple of handbuilt Matchless amps for that . . > > How much do the biggest of the vintage VOX amps change hands for these > days? > > A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most likely > from the 60s. > > --Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). 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Anyone put it up online yet? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 16:08:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:08:34 -0500 Subject: [kj] tone talk References: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0F7@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <00c501c3a2ed$e659cea0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C3A2C3.FD06A760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bluesbreakers, when?? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Phillipps Marc=20 To: 'gathering@misera.net'=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:04 AM Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk >A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most = likely >from the 60s. 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bluesbreakers, when??
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 11:04=20 AM
Subject: RE: [kj] tone = talk

>A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was = using are=20 most likely
>from the 60s.

From memory (and my memory is = rather=20 vague . . . ) they looked like reissue
Bluesbreakers ?

Marc=20 .


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> >
> > You = could get a=20 couple of handbuilt Matchless amps for that . .
>
> How = much do=20 the biggest of the vintage VOX amps change hands for these
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>
> A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie = was using=20 are most likely
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>
> --Mark
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_01C3A2C3.FD06A760-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 16:19:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:19:02 -0000 Subject: [kj] tone talk Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0F8@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >bluesbreakers, when?? As I said . . . vague memory :o) Camden ? Saying that, they may've just been cloth faced Marshall Cabs . . . it's hard to tell sometimes . . . I do remember him using Fender Bassmans (Bassmen?) when he was with Murder Inc though . . Marc (amp blind) > -----Original Message----- > From: fluw [SMTP:fluwdot@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:09 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk > > bluesbreakers, when?? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phillipps Marc > To: 'gathering@misera.net' > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:04 AM > Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk > > >A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most likely > >from the 60s. > > From memory (and my memory is rather vague . . . ) they looked like > reissue > Bluesbreakers ? > > Marc . > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Kolmar [SMTP:mark@burningrome.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:52 PM > > To: 'gathering@misera.net' > > Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk > > > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phillipps Marc wrote: > > > > > >it was around 5,000 pounds! > > > > > > That's a pricey amp ! > > > > > > You could get a couple of handbuilt Matchless amps for that . . > > > > How much do the biggest of the vintage VOX amps change hands for these > > days? > > > > A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most likely > > from the 60s. > > > > --Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > legally > privileged. 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From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 16:30:44 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:30:44 -0500 Subject: [kj] tone talk References: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0F8@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <00d801c3a2f0$ff131fc0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C3A2C7.15C799A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok one last try...camden when? mark, maybe you should invest in a couple bottles of neuromins and some = coke bottle glasses!! <> yes, the beginning of the end for geordie's tone. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Phillipps Marc=20 To: 'gathering@misera.net'=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:19 AM Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk >bluesbreakers, when?? As I said . . . vague memory :o) Camden ? Saying that, they may've just been cloth faced Marshall Cabs . . . = it's hard to tell sometimes . . .=20 I do remember him using Fender Bassmans (Bassmen?) when he was with = Murder Inc though . .=20 Marc (amp blind) > -----Original Message----- > From: fluw [SMTP:fluwdot@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:09 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk >=20 > bluesbreakers, when?? > =20 > =20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Phillipps Marc =20 > To: 'gathering@misera.net' =20 > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:04 AM > Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk >=20 > >A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most = likely > >from the 60s. >=20 > From memory (and my memory is rather vague . . . ) they looked like > reissue > Bluesbreakers ? >=20 > Marc . >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Kolmar [SMTP:mark@burningrome.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:52 PM > > To: 'gathering@misera.net' > > Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk > >=20 > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phillipps Marc wrote: > >=20 > > > >it was around 5,000 pounds! > > >=20 > > > That's a pricey amp ! > > >=20 > > > You could get a couple of handbuilt Matchless amps for that . . > >=20 > > How much do the biggest of the vintage VOX amps change hands for = these > > days? > >=20 > > A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most = likely > > from the 60s. > >=20 > > --Mark > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > > >=20 > >=20 > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > legally > privileged. 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ok one last try...camden when?
 
mark, maybe you should invest in a = couple bottles of=20 neuromins and some coke bottle glasses!!
 
 
<<I do remember him = using Fender=20 Bassmans (Bassmen?) when he was with Murder
Inc though . .=20 >>
 
yes, the beginning of the end for geordie's = tone.
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Phillipps Marc =
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 11:19=20 AM
Subject: RE: [kj] tone = talk

>bluesbreakers, when??

As I said . . . vague = memory=20 :o)

Camden ?

Saying that, they may've just been cloth = faced=20 Marshall Cabs . . . it's hard
to tell sometimes . . .

I do = remember=20 him using Fender Bassmans (Bassmen?) when he was with Murder
Inc = though . .=20

Marc (amp blind)


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> To: gathering@misera.net
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> bluesbreakers, = when??
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> To: 'gathering@misera.net' = <mailto:'gathering@misera.net'&= gt;=20
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:04 AM
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> >A buddy of mine said those Marshalls = Geordie=20 was using are most likely
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> = From=20 memory (and my memory is rather vague . . . ) they looked like
> = reissue
> Bluesbreakers ?
>
> Marc .
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> > On Tue, 4 = Nov=20 2003, Phillipps Marc wrote:
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> > > >it was = around=20 5,000 pounds!
> > >
> > > That's a pricey amp = !
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> > > You could get a couple of = handbuilt=20 Matchless amps for that . .
> >
> > How much do the = biggest=20 of the vintage VOX amps change hands for these
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> >=20
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> > = --Mark
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C3A2C7.15C799A0-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 16:37:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:37:03 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0FA@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Even the Smash Hits from that era must have some articles which are worth >keeping. I seem to remember Smash Hits interviewing KJ at one point . . . > -----Original Message----- > From: Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 [SMTP:jane.shadforth@shell.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:46 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: RE: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > > That reminds me - I'll have to retrieve my magazine collection, (1979 - > 1986), from my mums at some point before she follows up on her threat to > bin them all. Even the Smash Hits from that era must have some articles > which are worth keeping. > > Jane > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Saxton [mailto:ranjeef@btopenworld.com] > Sent: 04 November 2003 15:45 > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > > > ZigZag was the best mag from my fave era, the bands in there from KJ > through Danse Society, early Cult,Getting the Fear,Birthday Party,Gene > Loves Jezebel,Bauhaus and everyone else interesting inbetween.Somebody > should set up an archive, it was that good. I still have a load of > articles buried away somewhere.What was that later mag with Jaz on the > cover setting fire to the NME? ah,remembered Indiecator. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 > > To: gathering@misera.net > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:37 PM > Subject: RE: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > > Bring back ZigZag - that's what I say... Does anyone else remember > this classic alternative music magazine? I can't find much about it on the > web, but I did stumble upon a site on one of it's authors, (Mick > Sinclair), which has a number of interesting articles, (including 2 on > Killing Joke): > > Jane > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Smith [mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net] > Sent: 03 November 2003 23:53 > To: gathering@misera.net; gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > > > > MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't been worth the paper it's shoddily > printed on for about twenty-two years. > > There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand > why Q is so hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any > stretch, but they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and > resonably comprehensive. > > Alex in NYC > > ---------- > From: "fluw" > To: > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM > > > > > we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, > kicks! there are many "underground" mags actually. just none for crust > dwellers. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex Smith > To: gathering@misera.net > ; gathering@misera.net > > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter > with you? > > > "Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - > what'd you pick it up for > - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?" > > ::::sigh:::: > > Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big > fuckin' bone. Q at least > bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they > reveiw them positively or > not is another matter). > > Alex in NYC > > > > > ---------- > >From: "J.Paul Owens" > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter > with you? > >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM > > > > >>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue > of much-maligned Brit > >>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard > two bands those silly > >>Brits > >>have been spilling their lager all over themselves > in praising, notably the > >>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the > States' own Kings of Leon > >>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked > at how fucking **AWFUL** > >>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on > a disc dubbed "The Best > >>of `03". > > > > > >Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - > what'd you pick it up for - > > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > > > >jp > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. 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From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 17:04:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (nicholas fitzpatrick) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:04:13 +0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke: the horse Message-ID: There is a race horse called Killing Joke. I bet it likes to stay one jump ahead. >From The Guardian sports pages Nov 4: >>>>Betting 3-1 Mr Spliffy, 7-2 Sharp Hat, 5-1 Zarzu, 6-1 Cloudless, 8-1 >>>>Endless Summer, 10-1 Tayif, 12-1 Arogant Prince. 3.50 Oliver Cromwell Handicap (Class E) 1m 5f 175yds / pounds 2,310 1 (12) 000334 ALERON (15,CD,BF) J J Quinn 5 9.13 L Keniry (3) 90 2 (7) 104640 COURT OF APPEAL (26) B Ellison 6 9.13 T Hamilton (5) 86 3 (1) 050032 THEATRE TINKA (45,C) R Hollinshead 4 9.7 N Callan 88 4 (5) -33005 MIDDLETHORPE (21) M W Easterby 6 9.7 P Mulrennan (5) + 86 5 (10) 40-220 SQUEAKY (106) Miss K George 6 9.7 S Sanders 87 6 (8) 542 LARKING ABOUT (32) H Cecil 3 9.4 W Ryan 82 7 (11) 020 FORSYTHIA (38) Mrs K Walton 3 9.4 R Ffrench 82 8 (4) 30-06 KILLING JOKE (20) J Given 3 9.2 M Fenton 83 9 (2) 04/02- THROUGH THE RYE (J228) G A Swinbank 7 9.2 K Fallon - 10 (13) 543000 PLATINUM CHARMER (34) K Ryan 3 9.2 P Fessey 82 11 (6) 2-5543 MY LAST BEAN (83) B Smart 6 9.1 R Winston 86 12 (9) 006213 TILLA (7) H Morrison 3 9.1 L Fletcher (3) 89 13 (3) -24202 SPITTING IMAGE (21) Mrs M Reveley 3 9.0 A Culhane 83 Betting 11-2 Aleron, 6-1 Tilla, 13-2 My Last Bean, 8-1 Theatre Tinka, Larking About, Spitting Image, 10-1 Court Of Appeal, Squeaky, Through The Rye. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 17:20:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (nicholas fitzpatrick) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:20:27 +0000 Subject: [kj] Interview-Jaz on getting shot Message-ID: Sorry if this has been put up. It's good for Coleman autobiographical trivia. Talks about his first spliff and being shot, apparently. In between is all the usual stuff you already know, but it's not bad. Copyright 2003 Denver Westword, LLC Denver Westword (Colorado) October 30, 2003 Thursday SECTION: Music/ LENGTH: 2135 words HEADLINE: Knock 'Em Dead Killing Joke's ghoulish rock has the last laugh. BYLINE: By Jason Heller BODY: Mark out the points! Build the pyre! Assemble different drummers! Light up the fire! Put on your masks and animal skins!" Dictums for an ancient pagan ritual? Canons handed down by a Druidic high priest during Samhain, the Celtic precursor to Halloween where worshipers draped themselves in costumes and the dead came back to augur the future of the hapless living? Close. They're lines from "The Death & Resurrection Show," the opening cut on Killing Joke's new, self-titled album. The band, originally based in England and now spread across the globe like sleeper cells of a secret society, has risen yet again to make one of the best records of its quarter-century career -- not to mention the spookiest. "We're on tour in the north of England right now. It's fucking bleak," states Jaz Coleman, the 41-year-old singer/keyboardist of Killing Joke. His voice, raw and eroded, sounds like he's guzzled a bit too much blood and nicotine over the eons. "You don't want to go there. The drinks are cheap, but that's about it. "But if it's a bleak place," he adds with a devilish laugh, "Killing Joke is normally way popular." "Bleak" doesn't even start to describe Killing Joke's new disc. The cover is a stark drawing of a demonic clown face fixed in a hideous rictus, rendered in festive orange and black. Pagans originally chose those colors for Samhain because of their symbolism: black for death and magic, orange for harvest. Coincidentally, those three themes are intertwined throughout the album. On "The Death & Resurrection Show," a malevolent riff pounds away with primordial ferocity as Coleman chants, "Choose the crucifixion/Or Osiris slain/Recurring themes, time again." The rest of the record is a litany of cataclysm -- biochemical warfare, corporate imperialism, apocalypse via asteroid -- set against a dark backdrop of splattered rhythms and gutted guitars. Amid all its morbidity and decay, however, the album reaps fruits of defiance, even triumph. "You'll Never Get to Me" is swelling and anthemic, with an epic melody propelling Coleman's gob of spit into the eye of cruel reality: "You'll never get to me/Survival is my victory/Time for celebration/Overcome with a sense of elation." The party doesn't last long, though: On "Total Invasion," the singer sounds like he's sucking gasoline through his lungs as he hisses, "Just enough water/For a third of the world/Oil barons running the government/So I'll start a war/It's a fucking crusade/A lesson in trade." "We traditionally always do well during any war periods," says Coleman, cackling again like Mephisto huffing nitrous. "And then there's the astrology factor. I mean, when it's the right time, it's the right time. What can I say? You have people going through loads of shit and dying everywhere, and then you go do a record. You can't predict it. It just happens." Killing Joke's eerie ability to reflect the sickness of the world around it has been one of the group's trademarks since its inception. Formed in 1978 by Coleman, guitarist Geordie, bassist Youth and drummer Paul Ferguson, the quartet released its corrosive, pummeling debut two years later. With equal parts viciousness and detachment, it jammed the cold, glinting spikiness of post-punk into the savage fever of rock and roll -- in the process sculpting a nightmare diorama of the depressed, corrupt, post-industrial landscape of the time. "Killing Joke emerged just as punk was dying," Coleman remembers. "We didn't really like punk rhythm sections. We liked the fire from punk and the attitude, but that was about it. Apart from that, the world was our oyster in terms of musical style. We created what was comfortable to us, what we wanted to hear. The whole idea of a dance beat or a groove underneath fire from heaven was our kind of dream." Growing up in an affluent, academic household, Coleman wasn't always a mystic alchemist of beats and noise -- actually, quite the contrary. While most English teenagers in the 1970s were trying to mimic David Bowie or Johnny Rotten, this future avatar of dystopian rock was studying Gustav Mahler and Felix Mendelssohn. "Since I was about five, I've had an intensive classical training," Coleman divulges. "I was with the National Youth Orchestra in Great Britain, playing violin and singing." Indeed, by the age of fourteen, he had won numerous awards as a chorister in some of the great cathedrals of England. "I was a straight kid. I didn't listen to any pop music, though I met Brian Jones once as a kid. He went to school with my uncle. But I wasn't interested in rock music or pop music." Epiphany came in the form of temptation: a young girl, a bag of weed and -- most important -- the otherworldly music of Germany's legendary avant-rock collective Can. "I was with this orchestra, I was fifteen actually, when I met this girl who was a cello player -- you know, that big violin where they keep their legs apart," Coleman recollects with a wink in his voice. "She asked me if I enjoyed rock music, and I said, 'No, what's that?' So she said, 'Well, I'll play you some.' So we went to her house, and she said, 'You wouldn't smoke marijuana, would you?' And I said, 'I wouldn't dream of it.' But I did, and she played me this group called Can, and I stayed with her and had a wonderful night -- you know, incense, joss sticks, lovely woman, marijuana, all those things you do as a kid. And I listened to Can; I was a total convert. I thought, 'Wow, I finally hear rhythm.' And when I heard rhythm for the first time, it coincided with my sexuality. "The next day, I was different," he continues in an almost reverential tone. "I was a man, I guess. When my parents came back off holiday, I had sold my very expensive violin at Sotheby's and bought synthesizers instead and started wearing all black. They were horrified." Coleman couldn't stray far from his cultured upbringing, though. In 1982, after making three scorching albums with Killing Joke, he took a sabbatical from the group and settled briefly in Iceland before resuming his classical studies. More interested in composing than performing, he began wielding the conductor's wand across Egypt, Russia and Germany, eventually building a prestigious resume in the world of contemporary classical music. Besides engagements leading the London Philharmonic and the London Symphony Orchestra, he's made fifteen classical recordings, including two with famed violin virtuoso Nigel Kennedy. Still, his most recognized forays into classical music have been Symphonic Music of the Rolling Stones and Us and Them: Symphonic Pink Floyd, two albums that rode the Billboard classical charts in '94 and '95. Coleman currently conducts the Prague Symphony Orchestra, splitting his time between the Czech Republic, Switzerland and New Zealand, where he lives on a farm and admittedly loves his "peace and quiet." "I wouldn't swap my life for anyone's," he remarks. "I get to conduct great orchestras of the world on wonderful stages, and I get to be in the heaviest underground band in the world. I don't have much to complain about." During his rise through the classical ranks, Coleman remained sporadically active with Killing Joke, touring and releasing records every few years. But regardless of the different masks he has donned over the decades, his work has sent shock waves throughout the world of music. Killing Joke's hardwiring of steeliness and aggression became a template for the harsh, cybernetic strains of industrial, and this influence radiated out to such prominent groups as Big Black, Godflesh, Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Neurosis and Tool -- not to mention Nirvana. In fact, Kurt Cobain and crew were almost sued by Coleman in 1992 after the release of the single of "Come As You Are," a track that Cobain admitted was just a slowed-down version of Killing Joke's 1985 song "Eighties." "There was definitely tension between us," Coleman says. "It's the whole idea of intellectual copyright, isn't it? We did feel that the riff was taken from us. The last interviewer I spoke to asked me, 'Did you know about this guy who worked for Killing Joke who got up on stage once while Nirvana was playing and bashed Kurt Cobain in the face?' I'd never heard of it before, but apparently it happened." Karma swung back Killing Joke's way, though, when Dave Grohl enthusiastically agreed to drum on the band's new disc. As Coleman elaborates, "The original idea was to have three of our favorite drummers play on the album, Dave being one of them. We also wanted John [Dolmayan] from System of a Down and Danny [Carey] from Tool. But when Dave heard the songs, he said, 'I want the whole thing.' We love him to bits. You know, he's one of those funny kind of guys who can drink a whole bottle of Crown Royal whiskey and still be the same, nice, affable man -- not like our lot." Besides the assist from Grohl (who, due to his hectic schedule, is being replaced on tour with Ted Parsons, formerly of the Swans and Prong), Killing Joke's new full-length features contributions from Raven, one of the group's longtime bassists, and Andy Gill of Gang of Four, who also produced it. "Andy is an old mate of ours from years back," explains Coleman. "We brought him in because all of us in the band are producers, and it stopped us from fighting amongst each other. It worked out quite well. It didn't work out so well, however, for his very expensive and rare wine collection." While quick to kid around at a friend's expense, when it comes to his new disc, Coleman is dead serious. "It's so fucking now. I don't know how else to describe it," he comments. "There's no comparison between us and other bands that are simply re-forming. We never broke up; we made a pact never to break up. We did this album for purposes of contributing to innovation as opposed to our accountants telling us we had to do it. "Certain things just get better as you get older," he continues. "One of them is playing. I wish we sounded back then like we do now. It's a real spiritual experience every night for me. Don't ask me what I think about when I'm on stage, because I barely remember anything at all. It's like one big oil painting with the paints all thrown together. It's almost addictive after a while. It really hurts your body. It's like fifty thousand volts going through you. A strange phenomenon happens sometimes on stage: The place might be going crazy, but everything goes silent to us. Everything looks like it's going in slow motion. We call this 'the white heat.'" The way Coleman talks about it, the live Killing Joke experience sounds almost like an arcane, orgiastic ritual held around a raging bonfire in the middle of a sacred wood -- either that, or feeding time at an insane asylum where the pudding has been dosed with angel dust. "All kinds of outrageous things have happened to us at our shows," he says. "We've been hit with gas canisters. Once, this couple even started shagging on stage. The girl started knobbing; it was full penetration. I had to pour a pint of beer over them to try to get them apart. And someone once put a baby on the stage with a note saying "It's yours" attached to it. "Oh," he adds, almost as an afterthought, "I've been shot, too." Shot...on stage? "Yeah, three times now. Bad shots, eh? You get bloody nutcases. Now we shoot back, you fuckers." So with the black clouds of All Hallows' Eve drawing ominously nigh, Killing Joke is returning to the New World to wreak havoc, unleash dark forces and lead everyone in the primal, eldritch liturgy that is the tribal root of rock and roll -- and, of course, Halloween. "Oh, I love it, all that bobbing for apples and shit, the pumpkins, the atmosphere," Coleman enthuses. "And All Souls' Day, the day where we say prayers for the dear deceased. Now, in pagan times, we believed this was when our ancestors came back to give us good advice for the coming year and the hard winter ahead. So it's a night when the gateways are open and the spirits come through into the world of the living. And I believe this very much." When asked for a clue as to how he'll celebrate Halloween on stage this year, Coleman evades the question by returning one. "What do hillbillies do for Halloween?" he asks before busting into gales of rather hair-raising howls. "Pump kin!" After the guffaws die down and the goose bumps subside, Coleman goes on: "Seriously though, I always love wearing costumes on Halloween. But I'm not saying what we're up to; you'll have to wait and see on that. But I will tell you this: I normally go as something in between the jester and the lord high executioner." For the impish yet bloodthirsty leader of a band called Killing Joke, what costume could be more fitting? _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 17:34:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:34:22 -0000 Subject: [kj] tone talk Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0FC@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >ok one last try...camden when? This year .. >some coke bottle glasses!! Got those :o) >the beginning of the end for geordie's tone. I quite liked the tone he got with Murder Inc, sort of the old tone with a bit more grit (imho) Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: fluw [SMTP:fluwdot@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:31 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk > > ok one last try...camden when? > > mark, maybe you should invest in a couple bottles of neuromins and some > coke bottle glasses!! > > > < Murder > Inc though . . >> > > yes, the beginning of the end for geordie's tone. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phillipps Marc > To: 'gathering@misera.net' > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:19 AM > Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk > > >bluesbreakers, when?? > > As I said . . . vague memory :o) > > Camden ? > > Saying that, they may've just been cloth faced Marshall Cabs . . . it's > hard > to tell sometimes . . . > > I do remember him using Fender Bassmans (Bassmen?) when he was with Murder > Inc though . . > > Marc (amp blind) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fluw [SMTP:fluwdot@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:09 PM > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk > > > > bluesbreakers, when?? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Phillipps Marc < > > > To: 'gathering@misera.net' < > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:04 AM > > Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk > > > > >A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most likely > > >from the 60s. > > > > From memory (and my memory is rather vague . . . ) they looked like > > reissue > > Bluesbreakers ? > > > > Marc . > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mark Kolmar [SMTP:mark@burningrome.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:52 PM > > > To: 'gathering@misera.net' < > > > > > Subject: RE: [kj] tone talk > > > > > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Phillipps Marc wrote: > > > > > > > >it was around 5,000 pounds! > > > > > > > > That's a pricey amp ! > > > > > > > > You could get a couple of handbuilt Matchless amps for that . . > > > > > > How much do the biggest of the vintage VOX amps change hands for these > > > days? > > > > > > A buddy of mine said those Marshalls Geordie was using are most likely > > > from the 60s. > > > > > > --Mark > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net < > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > > legally > > privileged. 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If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 18:03:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (J.Paul Owens) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:03:35 +0000 Subject: [kj] tone talk Message-ID: They were cabinets at Camden (he means the Underworld gig a couple of months back). Two grey faced ones - 2x 12's? I never saw either the amp or preamp - becuase of this I suspected he may have been using a POD or similar... jp _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 18:31:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:31:48 -0000 Subject: [kj] tone talk Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF0FD@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >They were cabinets at Camden (he means the Underworld gig a couple of months=20 >back). Two grey faced ones - 2x 12's? I never saw either the amp or = preamp >- becuase of this I suspected he may have been using a POD or = similar... Aha, there speaks the man who spent the night behind them :o) >From my buffeted position in the pit they could've been Fisher Price = "My First Amplifier" (only =A320, 200watts of metal power) and I wouldn't = have been any the wiser . . .=20 Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: J.Paul Owens [SMTP:john_paul_owens@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:04 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk >=20 > They were cabinets at Camden (he means the Underworld gig a couple of > months=20 > back). Two grey faced ones - 2x 12's? I never saw either the amp or > preamp=20 > - becuase of this I suspected he may have been using a POD or = similar... >=20 > jp >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you.=20 > http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >=20 >=20 This communication may contain information that is confidential and = legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). = If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information = within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet = Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 18:48:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:48:59 -0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke: the horse References: Message-ID: <00a401c3a304$53322de0$e4887ed4@mydomain.com> By some strange co-incidence, a couple of months ago I was being dragged around an Oxfam shop in Bristol when I chanced upon a paperback on the shelves called none other than "A Killing Joke" - and guess what, it was about horse racing ! So, I duly parted with 99p but I can't really tell you anything more about it. I think it's still at Nichola's ... Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "nicholas fitzpatrick" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: [kj] Killing Joke: the horse > There is a race horse called Killing Joke. I bet it likes to stay one jump > ahead. > > From The Guardian sports pages Nov 4: > > >>>>Betting 3-1 Mr Spliffy, 7-2 Sharp Hat, 5-1 Zarzu, 6-1 Cloudless, 8-1 > >>>>Endless Summer, 10-1 Tayif, 12-1 Arogant Prince. > > 3.50 Oliver Cromwell Handicap (Class E) > > 1m 5f 175yds / pounds 2,310 > > 1 (12) 000334 ALERON (15,CD,BF) J J Quinn 5 9.13 L Keniry > (3) 90 > > 2 (7) 104640 COURT OF APPEAL (26) B Ellison 6 9.13 T > Hamilton (5) 86 > > 3 (1) 050032 THEATRE TINKA (45,C) R Hollinshead 4 9.7 N > Callan 88 > > 4 (5) -33005 MIDDLETHORPE (21) M W Easterby 6 9.7 P > Mulrennan (5) + 86 > > 5 (10) 40-220 SQUEAKY (106) Miss K George 6 9.7 S Sanders 87 > > 6 (8) 542 LARKING ABOUT (32) H Cecil 3 9.4 W Ryan 82 > > 7 (11) 020 FORSYTHIA (38) Mrs K Walton 3 9.4 R Ffrench 82 > > 8 (4) 30-06 KILLING JOKE (20) J Given 3 9.2 M Fenton 83 > > 9 (2) 04/02- THROUGH THE RYE (J228) G A Swinbank 7 9.2 K > Fallon - > > 10 (13) 543000 PLATINUM CHARMER (34) K Ryan 3 9.2 P Fessey > 82 > > 11 (6) 2-5543 MY LAST BEAN (83) B Smart 6 9.1 R Winston 86 > > 12 (9) 006213 TILLA (7) H Morrison 3 9.1 L Fletcher (3) 89 > > 13 (3) -24202 SPITTING IMAGE (21) Mrs M Reveley 3 9.0 A > Culhane 83 > > Betting 11-2 Aleron, 6-1 Tilla, 13-2 My Last Bean, 8-1 > Theatre Tinka, Larking About, Spitting Image, 10-1 Court Of Appeal, Squeaky, > Through The > Rye. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 19:06:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:06:40 -0500 Subject: [kj] tone talk References: Message-ID: <015f01c3a306$c7a7cca0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01C3A2DC.DE43DC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable they were 4x12's appear to be the same one/s used on the damage manual gigs ----- Original Message -----=20 From: J.Paul Owens=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk They were cabinets at Camden (he means the Underworld gig a couple of = months=20 back). Two grey faced ones - 2x 12's? I never saw either the amp or = preamp=20 - becuase of this I suspected he may have been using a POD or = similar... jp _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you.=20 http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01C3A2DC.DE43DC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
they were 4x12's
 
appear to be the same one/s used on the damage = manual=20 gigs
 
 
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Subject: Re: [kj] tone = talk

They were cabinets at Camden (he means the Underworld = gig a=20 couple of months
back). Two grey faced ones  - 2x 12's? I = never saw=20 either the amp or preamp
- becuase of this I suspected he may have = been=20 using a POD or=20 = similar...

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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_015C_01C3A2DC.DE43DC80-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 19:16:55 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:16:55 EST Subject: Fwd: [kj] Killing Joke: the horse Message-ID: <1e5.12a66b80.2cd95527@aol.com> --part1_1e5.12a66b80.2cd95527_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1e5.12a66b80.2cd95527_alt_boundary" --part1_1e5.12a66b80.2cd95527_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It finished 8th in the end priced at 20/1. Dave --part1_1e5.12a66b80.2cd95527_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It finished 8th in the end priced at 20/1.

Dave --part1_1e5.12a66b80.2cd95527_alt_boundary-- --part1_1e5.12a66b80.2cd95527_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-xj03.mx.aol.com (rly-xj03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.40]) by air-xj02.mail.aol.com (v97.8) with ESMTP id MAILINXJ23-5143fa7fa37267; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:13:32 -0500 Received: from four.pairlist.net (four.pairlist.net [216.92.1.120]) by rly-xj03.mx.aol.com (v97.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXJ310-5143fa7fa37267; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:12:56 -0500 Received: from four.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD94DC71; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:12:08 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gathering@four.pairlist.net Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 08ADFDC88 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 70823 invoked by uid 7122); 4 Nov 2003 18:48:09 -0000 Delivered-To: misera-misera:net-gathering@misera.net Received: (qmail 70815 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2003 18:48:09 -0000 Received: from zephir.uk.clara.net (195.8.69.53) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2003 18:48:09 -0000 Received: from du-032-0228.claranet.co.uk ([212.126.136.228] helo=host) by zephir.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AH6Dn-000Hyv-QX for gathering@misera.net; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:48:08 +0000 Message-ID: <00a401c3a304$53322de0$e4887ed4@mydomain.com> From: "Antoni Adamiak" To: References: Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke: the horse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: gathering-admin@misera.net Errors-To: gathering-admin@misera.net X-BeenThere: gathering@misera.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gathering@misera.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:48:59 -0000 X-AOL-IP: 216.92.1.120 By some strange co-incidence, a couple of months ago I was being dragged around an Oxfam shop in Bristol when I chanced upon a paperback on the shelves called none other than "A Killing Joke" - and guess what, it was about horse racing ! So, I duly parted with 99p but I can't really tell you anything more about it. I think it's still at Nichola's ... Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "nicholas fitzpatrick" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: [kj] Killing Joke: the horse > There is a race horse called Killing Joke. I bet it likes to stay one jump > ahead. > > From The Guardian sports pages Nov 4: > > >>>>Betting 3-1 Mr Spliffy, 7-2 Sharp Hat, 5-1 Zarzu, 6-1 Cloudless, 8-1 > >>>>Endless Summer, 10-1 Tayif, 12-1 Arogant Prince. > > 3.50 Oliver Cromwell Handicap (Class E) > > 1m 5f 175yds / pounds 2,310 > > 1 (12) 000334 ALERON (15,CD,BF) J J Quinn 5 9.13 L Keniry > (3) 90 > > 2 (7) 104640 COURT OF APPEAL (26) B Ellison 6 9.13 T > Hamilton (5) 86 > > 3 (1) 050032 THEATRE TINKA (45,C) R Hollinshead 4 9.7 N > Callan 88 > > 4 (5) -33005 MIDDLETHORPE (21) M W Easterby 6 9.7 P > Mulrennan (5) + 86 > > 5 (10) 40-220 SQUEAKY (106) Miss K George 6 9.7 S Sanders 87 > > 6 (8) 542 LARKING ABOUT (32) H Cecil 3 9.4 W Ryan 82 > > 7 (11) 020 FORSYTHIA (38) Mrs K Walton 3 9.4 R Ffrench 82 > > 8 (4) 30-06 KILLING JOKE (20) J Given 3 9.2 M Fenton 83 > > 9 (2) 04/02- THROUGH THE RYE (J228) G A Swinbank 7 9.2 K > Fallon - > > 10 (13) 543000 PLATINUM CHARMER (34) K Ryan 3 9.2 P Fessey > 82 > > 11 (6) 2-5543 MY LAST BEAN (83) B Smart 6 9.1 R Winston 86 > > 12 (9) 006213 TILLA (7) H Morrison 3 9.1 L Fletcher (3) 89 > > 13 (3) -24202 SPITTING IMAGE (21) Mrs M Reveley 3 9.0 A > Culhane 83 > > Betting 11-2 Aleron, 6-1 Tilla, 13-2 My Last Bean, 8-1 > Theatre Tinka, Larking About, Spitting Image, 10-1 Court Of Appeal, Squeaky, > Through The > Rye. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --part1_1e5.12a66b80.2cd95527_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 19:22:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:22:06 -0500 Subject: [kj] hear 2003 geordie manchester interview - needs real player Message-ID: <016e01c3a308$ef8f07e0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016B_01C3A2DF.063A5A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable don't know if this was posted before, but it's quite good: = http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/music/2003/07/24/killing_interview.shtml ------=_NextPart_000_016B_01C3A2DF.063A5A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
don't know if this was posted before, but = it's quite=20 good: http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/music/2003/07/24/killing_intervi= ew.shtml
------=_NextPart_000_016B_01C3A2DF.063A5A00-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 19:54:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:54:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] hear 2003 geordie manchester interview - needs real player In-Reply-To: <016e01c3a308$ef8f07e0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031104195432.90279.qmail@web80405.mail.yahoo.com> --0-555461849-1067975672=:89504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That was great. Never heard what Geordie sounded like.... Tom. fluw wrote: don't know if this was posted before, but it's quite good: http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/music/2003/07/24/killing_interview.shtml --0-555461849-1067975672=:89504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
That was great.   Never heard what Geordie sounded like....
 
Tom.


fluw <fluwdot@earthlink.net> wrote:
don't know if this was posted before, but it's quite good: http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/music/2003/07/24/killing_interview.shtml
--0-555461849-1067975672=:89504-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 21:37:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:37:14 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: <200311042137.hA4Lb6gt020713@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3150808634_52378_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In the early 90's, I worked at a tiny rinky-dink music rag called The New York Review of Records right alongside Kris Needs, the founder/editor of Zig Zag. While an unfailingly nice and completely hilarious guy, he was going through an entirely bad passage in his life at the time (involving lots of heroin and lots of drinking). He went onto go back to England, clean up his act, get his career back on track (as a deejay/producer) and even wrote his autobiography (in which the NYROR was briefly...er..derided, though my name went sully-free). He always had an entertaining Youth story to spin (they were very good friends prior to this stint, and I presume still are). I'd love to see Zig Zag back too. Hold not thy breath. Alex in NYC ---------- From: "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" To: Subject: RE: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Date: Tue, Nov 4, 2003, 9:37 AM Bring back ZigZag - that's what I say... Does anyone else remember this classic alternative music magazine? I can't find much about it on the web, but I did stumble upon a site on one of it's authors, (Mick Sinclair), which has a number of interesting articles, (including 2 on Killing Joke): http://micksinclair.com/index.html Jane -----Original Message----- From: Alex Smith [mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net] Sent: 03 November 2003 23:53 To: gathering@misera.net; gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't been worth the paper it's shoddily printed on for about twenty-two years. There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is so hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, but they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably comprehensive. Alex in NYC ---------- From: "fluw" To: Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, kicks! there are many "underground" mags actually. just none for crust dwellers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Smith To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? "Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up for - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?" ::::sigh:::: Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively or not is another matter). Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "J.Paul Owens" > >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM > >>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned Brit >>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those silly >>Brits >>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, notably the >>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own Kings of Leon >>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking **AWFUL** >>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed "The Best >>of `03". > > >Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick it up for - > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > >jp > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --MS_Mac_OE_3150808634_52378_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
In the early 90's, I worked at a tiny rinky-dink music rag called The New Y= ork Review of Records right alongside Kris Needs, the founder/editor of Zig = Zag. While an unfailingly nice and completely hilarious guy, he was going th= rough an entirely bad passage in his life at the time (involving lots of her= oin and lots of drinking). He went onto go back to England, clean up his act= , get his career back on track (as a deejay/producer) and even wrote his aut= obiography (in which the NYROR was briefly...er..derided, though my name wen= t sully-free). He always had an entertaining Youth story to spin (they were = very good friends prior to this stint, and I presume still are).

I'd love to see Zig Zag back too. Hold not thy breath.

Alex in NYC


----------
From: "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" <jane.shadforth@shell.= com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
Date: Tue, Nov 4, 2003, 9:37 AM


Bring back ZigZag - that's= what I say... Does anyone else remember this classic alternative music maga= zine? I can't find much about it on the web, but I did stumble upon a site o= n one of it's authors, (Mick Sinclair), which has a number of interesting ar= ticles, (including 2 on Killing Joke): http://micksinclair.com/index.html <http://micksinclair.com/index.h= tml>
 
Jane
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Smith [mailto:vassifer@earthlink= .net]
Sent: 03 November 2003 23:53
To: gathering@misera.net; gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you= ?


MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't been worth the paper it's shoddily printed on for= about twenty-two years.

There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is so ha= ted. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, but they= 're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably comprehensiv= e.

Alex in NYC

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From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM


we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, = kicks! there are many "underground" mags actually. just none for c= rust dwellers.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Smith <mailto:vassifer@earthl= ink.net>  
To: gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net>  ; gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net>  
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?


"Serves you right for buying Q magazine really  - what'd you pick= it up for
-  the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?"

::::sigh::::

Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q at least=
bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them positively or not is another matter).

Alex in NYC




----------
>From: "J.Paul Owens" <john_paul_o= wens@hotmail.com <mailto:john_paul_ow= ens@hotmail.com> >
>To: gathering@misera.net <mailto:gathering@misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?
>Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM
>

>>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of much-maligned = Brit
>>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those si= lly
>>Brits
>>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, not= ably the
>>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' = own Kings of Leon
>>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how f= ucking **AWFUL**
>>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed &q= uot;The Best
>>of `03".
>
>
>Serves you right for buying Q magazine really  - what'd you pick i= t up for -
>  the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?
>
>jp
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!
>http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
>
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--MS_Mac_OE_3150808634_52378_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 22:41:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:41:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] tone talk In-Reply-To: <00b601c3a2ec$c6a6af20$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: > the "biggest vox amps" ? like the super beatles? or the most > collectible? > > not sure how this compares to the "biggest vox amps" but a '64 ac30 top > boost factory mod, would could go for $2800 or so. Like the Super Beatles, yeah -- highest power and/or largest cabinets. > mark, which? - ("marshalls that geordie was using") No idea, but as a guess based on their size, might be 4x10", and the knobs would have had to be on top, or else head(s) were out of my view. The most obvious distinguishing feature was the Marshall logo in the center of the cabinet. A friend of mine, knowledgeable about these things, assumed they were 60s vintage or else some type of reproduction. --Mark From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:04:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (phat seanio) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:04:10 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? Message-ID: I,too,zigzag,top mag-firstI mag collected lots of-still got some tatty copies,but alas,many lost in an earlyrelationship split..........."you take the zigzags,but the crass lp's are mine.....! oh,I'm glad those days are gone.................................! >From: "Mark Saxton" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? >Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 15:45:12 -0000 > >Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you?ZigZag was the best mag >from my fave era, the bands in there from KJ through Danse Society, early >Cult,Getting the Fear,Birthday Party,Gene Loves Jezebel,Bauhaus and >everyone else interesting inbetween.Somebody should set up an archive, it >was that good. I still have a load of articles buried away somewhere.What >was that later mag with Jaz on the cover setting fire to the NME? >ah,remembered Indiecator. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 > To: gathering@misera.net > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:37 PM > Subject: RE: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > > > Bring back ZigZag - that's what I say... Does anyone else remember this >classic alternative music magazine? I can't find much about it on the web, >but I did stumble upon a site on one of it's authors, (Mick Sinclair), >which has a number of interesting articles, (including 2 on Killing Joke): >http://micksinclair.com/index.html > > Jane > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Smith [mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net] > Sent: 03 November 2003 23:53 > To: gathering@misera.net; gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > > > > MAXIMUMROCK'N'ROLL hasn't been worth the paper it's shoddily printed >on for about twenty-two years. > > There are great little rags, but I don't entirely understand why Q is >so hated. I mean, I don't consider their opinions gospel by any stretch, >but they're at least well-written (compared to Yank mags) and resonably >comprehensive. > > Alex in NYC > > ---------- > From: "fluw" > To: > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:35 PM > > > > we have maximum rock n roll, we had/ nyc's own, kicks! there are >many "underground" mags actually. just none for crust dwellers. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex Smith > To: gathering@misera.net ; >gathering@misera.net > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > > > "Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick >it up for > - the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective?" > > ::::sigh:::: > > Ever read any Yank music mags, JP? They suck a big fuckin' bone. Q >at least > bother to acknoledge bands I like (whether they reveiw them >positively or > not is another matter). > > Alex in NYC > > > > > ---------- > >From: "J.Paul Owens" > > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: England, what's the matter with you? > >Date: Mon, Nov 3, 2003, 6:03 PM > > > > >>Courtesy of a disc enclosed with the latest issue of >much-maligned Brit > >>music periodical, Q magazine, I've finally heard two bands those >silly > >>Brits > >>have been spilling their lager all over themselves in praising, >notably the > >>Darkness ("Get Your Hands Off My Woman") and the States' own >Kings of Leon > >>("Red Morning Light")....and I'm fuckin' shocked at how fucking >**AWFUL** > >>they both are....and they're the first two cuts on a disc dubbed >"The Best > >>of `03". > > > > > >Serves you right for buying Q magazine really - what'd you pick >it up for - > > the Dido article or the Eagles retrospective? > > > >jp > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:07:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (ade) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:07:14 -0000 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP In-Reply-To: <20031104101427.F023E7276@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00bd01c3a32a$6d58dcc0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00c801c3a32a$94140600$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00cf01c3a32a$bc820f60$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
Gathe= ring=20 mailing list
Gathering@misera.net
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00d201c3a32a$e7232560$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
Gathe= ring=20 mailing list
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00d501c3a32b$0e524620$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
Gathe= ring=20 mailing list
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00d801c3a32b$35b54820$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00db01c3a32b$5c6749a0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00de01c3a32b$86915ae0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00e101c3a32b$ad7edec0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00e401c3a32b$d43a0800$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
Gathe= ring=20 mailing list
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00e701c3a32b$fb6928c0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
Gathe= ring=20 mailing list
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00ea01c3a32c$22bb61e0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
Gathe= ring=20 mailing list
Gathering@misera.net
http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

______________________= _________________________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00ed01c3a32c$49d9b9c0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
Gathe= ring=20 mailing list
Gathering@misera.net
http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

______________________= _________________________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00f001c3a32c$70e12e40$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00f301c3a32c$99ede8a0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00f601c3a32c$c2f301e0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <00fc01c3a32c$d1397cc0$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:21:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP References: <007201c3a328$630d2110$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <000401c3a335$4cf19200$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ade=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE UP When do we get to see the inner workings of your arse? Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here: \\mr-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde Anyone got any idea of the date? adethecunt -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 04 November 2003 10:14 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk follow the link to Roskilde. The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, = as this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. = Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. What's next???? _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on = your=20 door 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ade
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] ROSKILDE = UP

When do we get to see the inner workings of your=20 arse?

Spanks a lot for that matey - mirrored here:

\\m= r-pants\Audio\KillingJoke\Live\1984-00-00.Roskilde

Anyone=20 got any idea of the = date?



adethecunt

-----Original=20 Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net= =20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Rob's Arse
Sent: = 04=20 November 2003 10:14
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject:= [kj]=20 ROSKILDE UP



http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.u= k

follow=20 the link to Roskilde.
The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I = had to=20 join two tracks, as this
is where the tape got turned over-best of = a bad=20 job I'm afraid.. Anyway,
have a listen. Losts of interesting = tracks, Jaz is=20 is hyper mode!

Hope all the links work. I did it in a=20 rush.

What's=20 = next????


_____________________________________________________= ________
Free=20 email at www.Z6.com ( and home of=20 = worldmap.com)
_______________________________________________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C3A300.83024F40-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 01:19:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:19:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] NYC 2003 photos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031105011915.41303.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> At least give us the name of the girl in the back wearing green n'glasses. She's cute. saul --- The Exorcist wrote: > Feh! > I didn't name them cuase I am in a wee bit of a hurry. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 01:24:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:24:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] NYC 2003 photos In-Reply-To: <20031105011915.41303.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031105012424.73829.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> see... http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/gang04.jpg http://www.speakeasy.org/~exorcist/kj2003/gang05.jpg s --- sade1 wrote: > At least give us the name of the girl in the back wearing > green n'glasses. She's cute. > > saul > > --- The Exorcist wrote: > > Feh! > > I didn't name them cuase I am in a wee bit of a hurry. ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 01:33:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:33:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Killing Joke L.A. show In-Reply-To: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D602025FFC@encore02.libertylivewire.com> Message-ID: <20031105013349.32388.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> The idea is a good one(get-2gether) but alas it's in the Miracle Mile, where the only place w/in 'walking' distance is..gasp!..ready...Marie Callender's. (Molly malone's Pub on Fairfax is kinda far, on foot n' drunk) Pray there's no more fires... Saul --- Bill Meissner wrote: > the El Rey Theater - planning a get together?Keep me posted! ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 01:39:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:39:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP In-Reply-To: <000401c3a335$4cf19200$f18a6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031105013912.2854.qmail@web11510.mail.yahoo.com> Please set trigger to 'S' for single-shot. Thank you, Charlton Heston National Rifle Association P.S.: Our books show your membership dues are not current as of present. Please to remit check or money order to... --- fluw wrote: > ade, the date is june 29 1984.....knockin' on your door __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 03:18:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Geoffrey ODonoghue) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:18:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Questions questions In-Reply-To: <20031104153707.07377398E@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20031105031819.89210.qmail@web80704.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1417966902-1068002299=:88549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all First of all thanks to Christophe and Rob's Arse for making the live shows available. This morning I downloaded the whole lot (at work) - I've now got some burning to do. My questions - does anyone know the band members for the 3 shows (Le Truck 1989, Amsterdam 1996 and Roskilde 1984)? And for the esteemed Mr Coles - how goes the substitute artwork for KJ2003? Thanks Geoff (only 16 days 6 hours and 45 minutes till my first KJ show but who's counting) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1417966902-1068002299=:88549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi all
 
First of all thanks to Christophe and Rob's Arse for making the live shows available. This morning I downloaded the whole lot (at work) - I've now got some burning to do.
 
My questions - does anyone know the band members for the 3 shows (Le Truck 1989, Amsterdam 1996 and  Roskilde 1984)?
 
And for the esteemed Mr Coles - how goes the substitute artwork for KJ2003?
 
Thanks
 
Geoff (only 16 days 6 hours and 45 minutes till my first KJ show but who's counting)
 
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1417966902-1068002299=:88549-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 04:48:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 23:48:59 EST Subject: [kj] Questions questions Message-ID: <2b.4a3231c2.2cd9db3b@aol.com> --part1_2b.4a3231c2.2cd9db3b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's another question! Are there any Gatherers in either Portland, OR or San Diego that would be interested in putting up a Bostonian for the Sat. night after the KJ show? I have a free plane ticked for anywhere in the US, but can't use it on a holiday weekend. I'd be open to trying to meet the band after the show (I've seen them since 1981, but never met them). I'm a 39 year old male, a teacher. Let me know, and thanks! Greg --part1_2b.4a3231c2.2cd9db3b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's another question! Are there any Gatherers in ei= ther Portland, OR or San Diego that would be interested in putting up a Bost= onian for the Sat. night after the KJ show? I have a free plane ticked for a= nywhere in the US, but can't use it on a holiday weekend. I'd be open to try= ing to meet the band after the show (I've seen them since 1981, but never me= t them). I'm a 39 year old male, a teacher. Let me know, and thanks!
Greg --part1_2b.4a3231c2.2cd9db3b_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 08:32:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:32:38 +0000 Subject: [kj] artleg bootwork Message-ID: --============_-1144101334==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" And for the esteemed Mr Coles - how goes the substitute artwork for KJ2003? Hopefully to be sorted and on the MD site before the end of the month. but the ticks are tocking closer... cheers the steamed mr coles -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1144101334==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" artleg bootwork
And for the esteemed Mr Coles - how goes the substitute artwork for KJ2003?
Hopefully to be sorted and on the MD site before the end of the month.
but the ticks are tocking closer...
cheers
the steamed mr coles
--
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk
... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
--============_-1144101334==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 12:32:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 12:32:48 +0000 Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP Message-ID: There seems to be something wrong in the start of Change ! the first 40 sekunds, there are no music anyone else have this problem ? > >http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk > >follow the link to Roskilde. >The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, as >this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. >Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! > >Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. > >What's next???? > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Last ned nye MSN Messenger 6.0 gratis http://www.msn.no/computing/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom deg og dine venner From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 14:56:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:56:54 +0100 Subject: [kj] Questions questions Message-ID:



>I'm a 39 year old
>male, a teacher.
 
nothing I'd admit ....

Gewinnen Sie einen Kosmonautentraining - jetzt mitmachen bei der MSN WEBRALLYE! Hier klicken und gewinnen! www.webrallye.msn.de From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 16:21:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 08:21:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] ROSKILDE UP Message-ID: <20031105162151.8DC457260@sitemail.everyone.net> Change has been ermmmmmmm, changed! --- "Arvid Mork" wrote: There seems to be something wrong in the start of Change ! the first 40 sekunds, there are no music anyone else have this problem ? > >http://www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk > >follow the link to Roskilde. >The Tension mp3 is a bit of a dogs dinner. I had to join two tracks, as >this is where the tape got turned over-best of a bad job I'm afraid.. >Anyway, have a listen. Losts of interesting tracks, Jaz is is hyper mode! > >Hope all the links work. I did it in a rush. > >What's next???? > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Last ned nye MSN Messenger 6.0 gratis http://www.msn.no/computing/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom deg og dine venner _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 18:49:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:49:17 -0000 Subject: [kj] artleg bootwork References: Message-ID: <00d901c3a3cd$84b23300$02ac883e@mycomputer> tick-tock, CH-RUNCH! Oh it's stopped. I'm counting down the seconds, still not there, the tension is unbearable! > And for the esteemed Mr Coles - how goes the substitute artwork for KJ2003? > Hopefully to be sorted and on the MD site before the end of the month. > but the ticks are tocking closer... > cheers > the steamed mr coles > -- > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 19:15:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:15:57 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT - a Roman Orgy ? Message-ID: <02c401c3a3d1$3eee41c0$ee887ed4@mydomain.com> ... well that's what it said on the back page of today's Daily Mirror. (ie. Lazio 0 Chelsea 4) Jel, Jamie (jpwhkj), speak up chaps, where were you last night ? Hopefully glued to the TV & going mental ... I would have loved to have gone to Rome myself but with much of the leave used up on the Killing Joke tour/s, I was resigned to watching the match on ITV2. Generally watching football can be a frustrating experience but events like last night border on the truly spiritual. So, some of the boys came round and, what with the often cynical antics of some Lazio players, the expletives were rife. It's a good job we didn't have a swearbox in operation otherwise I'd be f*ck*ng skint :o) Anyway, back to something vaguely on topic - the Pacifica CD. Despite having a rip-off bootleg copy, it's really great stuff & very haunting in parts. Almost 6 minutes into the third track "Tangi" and it breaks into the melody from the Mass chorus. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 20:03:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:03:08 -0500 Subject: [kj] Questions questions Message-ID: <4CDF8554.3C2CA6AE.398839F0@aol.com> OK, I'm a 24 year old female swimsuit model! I like to listen to Killing Joke while I do my nails. From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 20:06:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:06:47 +0100 Subject: [kj] Questions questions Message-ID:

i'm not living in LA, but would you still stay with me?

 

i mean, i could show you my killin joke collection......

 

dirt

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Alex in NYC From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 20:21:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:21:39 -0000 Subject: [kj] Questions questions References: Message-ID: <039401c3a3da$6c163aa0$ee887ed4@mydomain.com> ... and your white sox :o) * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Kingerske" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Questions questions > i'm not living in LA, but would you still stay with me? > > > > i mean, i could show you my killin joke collection...... > > > > dirt > > > > >From: GregSlawson@aol.com > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: Re: [kj] Questions questions > >Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:03:08 -0500 > > > >OK, I'm a 24 year old female swimsuit model! I like to listen to Killing Joke while I do my nails. > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Messenger-Mania! FreeSMS abräumen mit dem MSN Messenger. Der Countdown läuft - hier klicken ! Jetzt mitmachen und gewinnen! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 20:22:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:22:18 -0000 Subject: [kj] "Year of the Devil" References: <200311052012.hA5KCOgt001753@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <039b01c3a3da$837e5b00$ee887ed4@mydomain.com> Yes ! Do it ! * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Smith" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: [kj] "Year of the Devil" > > So I just read that "the Year of the Devil" (the fabled Czech movie > co-starring Jaz) is playing at BAM (Brooklyn Academy of Music) this coming > Sunday. Who here has seen it? I'm going to try to go, but it might be a bit > difficult (scheduling problems). Is it worth it? > > Alex in NYC > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 20:50:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:50:15 -0000 Subject: [kj] Questions questions References: <039401c3a3da$6c163aa0$ee887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <004301c3a3de$6e7ae1c0$baac883e@mycomputer> and the etchings .... > ... and your white sox :o) > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dirk Kingerske" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Questions questions > > > > i'm not living in LA, but would you still stay with me? > > > > > > > > i mean, i could show you my killin joke collection...... > > > > > > > > dirt > > > > > > > > >From: GregSlawson@aol.com > > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] Questions questions > > >Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:03:08 -0500 > > > > > >OK, I'm a 24 year old female swimsuit model! I like to listen to Killing > Joke while I do my nails. > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Gathering mailing list > > >Gathering@misera.net > > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > Messenger-Mania! FreeSMS abräumen mit dem MSN Messenger. Der Countdown > läuft - hier klicken ! Jetzt mitmachen und gewinnen! > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 21:28:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (The Exorcist) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:28:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] 2003 fotos I came across on the web In-Reply-To: <039b01c3a3da$837e5b00$ee887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: Has anyone seen these yet? http://www.newwavephotos.com/KillingJoke.htm From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 23:03:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (J.Paul Owens) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 23:03:10 +0000 Subject: [kj] "Year of the Devil" Message-ID: >So I just read that "the Year of the Devil" (the fabled Czech movie >co-starring Jaz) is playing at BAM (Brooklyn Academy of Music) this coming >Sunday. Who here has seen it? I'm going to try to go, but it might be a bit >difficult (scheduling problems). Is it worth it? If you can make it then GO! Well worth seeing - think Lenningrad Cowboys meets Spinal Tap and you wont be far off. jp _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 5 23:23:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:23:31 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - a Roman Orgy ? Message-ID: <20DC79E9.61711B56.0004DF86@aol.com> I didn't see it 'cos I was in transit after an unexpected trip to the dentist with my daughter. I must admit I wasn't really expecting a win, so when I got in and checked the teletext - fuckin' hell - RESULT! And judging from the match reports today, a well-deserved one, plus that tosser Mymumsabitch or whatever his name is getting sent off. Excellent. Jamie From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 01:48:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:48:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: <20031103201424.73228.qmail@web10411.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031106014850.26098.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> How about all the sex with the groupies? doesn't make up for EVERYTHING? saul --- Leigh Newton wrote: You > had dressing rooms? LUCKY! hehe. All that said, the > highs by far outshine the lows. If you're into it, i > guess. I don't know. It's fun. fun! ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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Well worth seeing - think Lenningrad Cowboys >meets Spinal Tap and you wont be far off. > >jp > >_________________________________________________________________ >Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 07:58:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:58:49 EST Subject: [kj] LOS ANGELES GIG COMING SOON Message-ID: <197.220b08bb.2cdb5939@aol.com> --part1_197.220b08bb.2cdb5939_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HEY GOAT TEE,U STILL GOIN 2C KJ NEXT FRI AT LA?I LIVE IN ARCADIA,IM SAME AGE AS THE JOKESTERS , 40 SUMTHIN,BUT IM GOIN BY MYSELF. I AM WILLING TO TAKE SOMEONE ALONG 2DO COFFEE AND TALK ABOUT THE GOOD OL'DAYS WHEN EVEN PUNKERS KNEW HOW TO WRITE MUSIC,I SAW KJ IN SEATTLE IN '94,THE BAND IS ALL ABOUT GEORDIE'S TWO HANDS AND HIS GUITARS,HE IS SUCH A GREAT AND UNIQUE PLAYER,,,,,,DESERT DAN --part1_197.220b08bb.2cdb5939_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HEY GOAT TEE,U STILL GOIN 2C KJ NEXT FRI AT LA?I LIVE=20= IN ARCADIA,IM SAME AGE AS THE JOKESTERS , 40 SUMTHIN,BUT IM GOIN BY MYSELF.=20= I AM WILLING TO TAKE SOMEONE ALONG 2DO COFFEE AND TALK ABOUT THE GOOD OL'DAY= S WHEN EVEN PUNKERS KNEW HOW TO WRITE MUSIC,I SAW KJ IN SEATTLE IN '94,THE B= AND IS ALL ABOUT GEORDIE'S TWO HANDS AND HIS GUITARS,HE IS SUCH A GREAT AND=20= UNIQUE PLAYER,,,,,,DESERT DAN --part1_197.220b08bb.2cdb5939_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 08:51:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:51:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm Message-ID: <20031106085105.1FD713955@sitemail.everyone.net> Not if they're male, 16 stone, sweaty and have beer breath. --- sade1 wrote: How about all the sex with the groupies? doesn't make up for EVERYTHING? saul --- Leigh Newton wrote: You > had dressing rooms? LUCKY! hehe. All that said, the > highs by far outshine the lows. If you're into it, i > guess. I don't know. It's fun. fun! ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 09:43:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:43:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT - a Roman Orgy ? In-Reply-To: <02c401c3a3d1$3eee41c0$ee887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <20031106094359.67034.qmail@web86101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-263464362-1068111839=:66472 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit couldn't resist it could you... I so knew that either you or Jel would bring this up. Still I admit it's more impressive than QPR's 2-1 win over Dagenham and Redbridge... Antoni Adamiak wrote: ... well that's what it said on the back page of today's Daily Mirror. (ie. Lazio 0 Chelsea 4) Jel, Jamie (jpwhkj), speak up chaps, where were you last night ? Hopefully glued to the TV & going mental ... I would have loved to have gone to Rome myself but with much of the leave used up on the Killing Joke tour/s, I was resigned to watching the match on ITV2. Generally watching football can be a frustrating experience but events like last night border on the truly spiritual. So, some of the boys came round and, what with the often cynical antics of some Lazio players, the expletives were rife. It's a good job we didn't have a swearbox in operation otherwise I'd be f*ck*ng skint :o) Anyway, back to something vaguely on topic - the Pacifica CD. Despite having a rip-off bootleg copy, it's really great stuff & very haunting in parts. Almost 6 minutes into the third track "Tangi" and it breaks into the melody from the Mass chorus. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-263464362-1068111839=:66472 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
couldn't resist it could you...
 
I so knew that either you or Jel would bring this up.
 
Still I admit it's more impressive than QPR's 2-1 win over Dagenham and Redbridge...
 


Antoni Adamiak <antoni@clara.net> wrote:
... well that's what it said on the back page of today's Daily Mirror. (ie.
Lazio 0 Chelsea 4)

Jel, Jamie (jpwhkj), speak up chaps, where were you last night ? Hopefully
glued to the TV & going mental ... I would have loved to have gone to Rome
myself but with much of the leave used up on the Killing Joke tour/s, I was
resigned to watching the match on ITV2. Generally watching football can be a
frustrating experience but events like last night border on the truly
spiritual.

So, some of the boys came round and, what with the often cynical antics of
some Lazio players, the expletives were rife. It's a good job we didn't have
a swearbox in operation otherwise I'd be f*ck*ng skint :o)

Anyway, back to something vaguely on topic - the Pacifica CD. Despite having
a rip-off bootleg copy, it's really great stuff & very haunting in parts.
Almost 6 minutes into the third track "Tangi" and it breaks into the melody
from the Mass chorus.

Regards,

Antoni

* http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *


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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-263464362-1068111839=:66472-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 10:42:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (J.Paul Owens) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:42:59 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Chelsea game Message-ID: Did anyone happen to tape this? I've got a mad (aren't they all) Chelsea fan at work who was at the game but has yet to see it (if you know what I mean). If anyone has a copy she'd love to see it. jp ps: I'm sure at this time we'd all like to congratulate the Bhoy's on their glorious victory as well. Right Jel? _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 12:49:26 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (pr 001) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:49:26 -0500 Subject: [kj] Questions questions Message-ID: >From: Geoffrey ODonoghue > >My questions - does anyone know the band members for the 3 shows (Le Truck >1989, Amsterdam 1996 and Roskilde 1984)? that'd be: 1989: jaz, geordie, taif, atkins. not sure about keyboards, could have been dave kovacevic shortly before he got kicked out. 1996: jaz, geordie, troy gregory, geof dugmore. again, not sure about keyboards. 1984: jaz, geordie, raven, big paul. (jaz on keyboards.) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 12:56:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (pr 001) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 07:56:13 -0500 Subject: [kj] tone talk Message-ID: >From: "fluw" > ><how much GB wanted.>> > >it was around 5,000 pounds! fuck! you can get half a mike coles video for that! was that for one amp or the whole job, do you know? i think we could raise that much - 200 gatherers £25 each. send to me please and i'll pass it on to geordie when we reach the target. (i'll do a thermometer progress thingy like on 'blue peter'.) _________________________________________________________________ Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_games From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 13:08:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (pr 001) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:08:40 -0500 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm Message-ID: >From: Rob's Arse >Not if they're male, 16 stone, sweaty and have beer breath. you shagged KILLING JOKE, rob?!?! you lucky b'stard. i can't believe all the crap i've been reading recently about what a chore it must be to be KJ on tour. if you bought a cd and half the tracks were missing and the rest were rubbish quality you'd expect your money back and likewise should be the case for a gig. people who travel long distances and may not have much spare cash have every right to expect a professional performance, however small the crowd. yeah, what a hassle it must be creating the greatest noise known to man night after night. the sound of the earth vomiting. the classical music of the future. the beautiful ugly symphony. pfffft, what a drag. so put on your masks. and animal skins. no illumination. no illumination. listen to the drums. can't hear the guitar. just the fucking drums. oh beloved pissheads of england - hold me in contempt! burn burn, not very brightly. on a par with richard whiteley. bottles and empty cans - streak across the sky. so sorry, so go to: THE WE-CAN'T-BE-BOTHERED SHOW! >--- sade1 wrote: >How about all the sex with the groupies? doesn't make up for >EVERYTHING? > >saul > >--- Leigh Newton wrote: >You > > had dressing rooms? LUCKY! hehe. All that said, the > > highs by far outshine the lows. If you're into it, i > > guess. I don't know. It's fun. fun! > >===== >WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > >"Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 13:11:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (pr 001) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:11:29 -0500 Subject: Fwd: [kj] Killing Joke: the horse Message-ID: >From: Wrightdvdw@aol.com > >It finished 8th in the end priced at 20/1. sounds like it needs to be put down and out of its misery. obviously past its best. _________________________________________________________________ >From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 13:37:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:37:51 -0500 Subject: [kj] tone talk References: Message-ID: <000e01c3a46b$2d4d4340$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C3A441.43BE99A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that was 5000 pounds for raven's bass amp! i take it that would cover a = complete rig (separate preamp and poweramp). during a chat last summer = raven mentioned that gregg was making him a preamp, hopefully this = recent price quote was not for the pre amp alone!=20 the problem is sourcing materials for a one off custom job is Very = expensive. as is with most products, the most cost efficient way to = produce is with higher demand of product, conglomeration or sweat shop = workers. ---- Original Message -----=20 From: pr 001=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [kj] tone talk >From: "fluw" > ><how much GB wanted.>> > >it was around 5,000 pounds! fuck! you can get half a mike coles video for that! was that for one = amp or=20 the whole job, do you know? i think we could raise that much - 200 = gatherers=20 =A325 each. send to me please and i'll pass it on to geordie when we = reach the=20 target. 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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C3A441.43BE99A0-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 15:22:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:22:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031106152231.27233.qmail@web86101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1764575745-1068132151=:26664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit best email ever pr 001 wrote:>From: Rob's Arse >Not if they're male, 16 stone, sweaty and have beer breath. you shagged KILLING JOKE, rob?!?! you lucky b'stard. i can't believe all the crap i've been reading recently about what a chore it must be to be KJ on tour. if you bought a cd and half the tracks were missing and the rest were rubbish quality you'd expect your money back and likewise should be the case for a gig. people who travel long distances and may not have much spare cash have every right to expect a professional performance, however small the crowd. yeah, what a hassle it must be creating the greatest noise known to man night after night. the sound of the earth vomiting. the classical music of the future. the beautiful ugly symphony. pfffft, what a drag. so put on your masks. and animal skins. no illumination. no illumination. listen to the drums. can't hear the guitar. just the fucking drums. oh beloved pissheads of england - hold me in contempt! burn burn, not very brightly. on a par with richard whiteley. bottles and empty cans - streak across the sky. so sorry, so go to: THE WE-CAN'T-BE-BOTHERED SHOW! >--- sade1 wrote: >How about all the sex with the groupies? doesn't make up for >EVERYTHING? > >saul > >--- Leigh Newton wrote: >You > > had dressing rooms? LUCKY! hehe. All that said, the > > highs by far outshine the lows. If you're into it, i > > guess. I don't know. It's fun. fun! > >===== >WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > >"Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1764575745-1068132151=:26664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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pr 001 <stay_one_jump_ahead@hotmail.com> wrote:
>From: Rob's Arse

>Not if they're male, 16 stone, sweaty and have beer breath.

you shagged KILLING JOKE, rob?!?! you lucky b'stard.

i can't believe all the crap i've been reading recently about what a chore
it must be to be KJ on tour. if you bought a cd and half the tracks were
missing and the rest were rubbish quality you'd expect your money back and
likewise should be the case for a gig. people who travel long distances and
may not have much spare cash have every right to expect a professional
performance, however small the crowd. yeah, what a hassle it must be
creating the greatest noise known to man night after night. the sound of the
earth vomiting. the classical music of the future. the beautiful ugly
symphony. pfffft, what a drag.

so put on your masks. and animal skins. no illumination. no illumination.
listen to the drums. can't hear the guitar. just the fucking drums. oh
beloved pissheads of england - hold me in contempt! burn burn, not very
brightly. on a par with richard whiteley. bottles and empty cans - streak
across the sky. so sorry, so go to: THE WE-CAN'T-BE-BOTHERED SHOW!

>--- sade1 wrote:
>How about all the sex with the groupies? doesn't make up for
>EVERYTHING?
>
>saul
>
>--- Leigh Newton wrote:
>You
> > had dressing rooms? LUCKY! hehe. All that said, the
> > highs by far outshine the lows. If you're into it, i
> > guess. I don't know. It's fun. fun!
>
>=====
>WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB?
>
>"Get me out
> of the here and now
> I want to be
> another here, another..."

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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1764575745-1068132151=:26664-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 15:58:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 09:58:05 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [kj] tone talk In-Reply-To: <000e01c3a46b$2d4d4340$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: > the problem is sourcing materials for a one off custom job is Very > expensive. as is with most products, the most cost efficient way to > produce is with higher demand of product, conglomeration or sweat shop > workers. Or at least the guy needs to make them by hand on a regular basis, and buy parts in some quantity. --Mark From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 17:07:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:07:36 +0000 Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm In-Reply-To: <20031106152231.27233.qmail@web86101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20031106152231.27233.qmail@web86101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1068138456.3faa7fd835ffd@www.boltblue.com> Quoting bluce ree : > best email ever Second that :))) > > pr 001 wrote:>From: Rob's Arse > > >Not if they're male, 16 stone, sweaty and have beer breath. > > you shagged KILLING JOKE, rob?!?! you lucky b'stard. > > i can't believe all the crap i've been reading recently about what a > chore > it must be to be KJ on tour. if you bought a cd and half the tracks were > > missing and the rest were rubbish quality you'd expect your money back > and > likewise should be the case for a gig. people who travel long distances > and > may not have much spare cash have every right to expect a professional > performance, however small the crowd. yeah, what a hassle it must be > creating the greatest noise known to man night after night. the sound of > the > earth vomiting. the classical music of the future. the beautiful ugly > symphony. pfffft, what a drag. > > so put on your masks. and animal skins. no illumination. no > illumination. > listen to the drums. can't hear the guitar. just the fucking drums. oh > beloved pissheads of england - hold me in contempt! burn burn, not very > brightly. on a par with richard whiteley. bottles and empty cans - > streak > across the sky. so sorry, so go to: THE WE-CAN'T-BE-BOTHERED SHOW! > > >--- sade1 wrote: > >How about all the sex with the groupies? doesn't make up for > >EVERYTHING? > > > >saul > > > >--- Leigh Newton wrote: > >You > > > had dressing rooms? LUCKY! hehe. All that said, the > > > highs by far outshine the lows. If you're into it, i > > > guess. I don't know. It's fun. fun! > > > >===== > >WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > > > >"Get me out > > of the here and now > > I want to be > > another here, another..." > > _________________________________________________________________ > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > --------------------------------- > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE > Yahoo!Messenger -------------------------------------------------------------- Sent with "Me-Mail", Boltblue's FREE mobile messaging service. http://www.boltblue.com From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 18:44:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:44:57 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Fw: Blyth Head South For the Winter Message-ID: <008701c3a496$1456fa40$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> Blyth Power in Brentford - that's my Friday night sorted then ... my first gig in 12 that hasn't been Killing Joke ! * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blyth Power" <56134@blythpower.co.uk> To: Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: Blyth Head South For the Winter > Hello Dear All > > Once again we find ourselves among the viagra offers and adverts for penis > enlargement in your inbox - or rather we hope we do, as this week we have > much to tell. > > Blyth Power. reconstituted and refreshed after their travels, are out and > about for a three date weekend in the sunny south, taking in the following: > > Fri 7th Brentford Stripes Club w/Blaggers AKA, Barnstormer and Random > Negative Doors 7.30 BLYTH ONSTAGE 8.30. 020 8380 9916 > > Sat 8th Shoreham Airport Bar w/Stage Bottles & Random Negative > > 01273 870875 > > Sun 9th Brighton Concorde w/Otway and a veritable galaxy of stars. See news > page for full details. Joe Strummer Memorial Benefit > BLYTH ONSTAGE 6.30 > 01273 870875 > > Note the early stage times on Friday and Sunday. > > SUNDAY'S LINE-UP IN CASE YOU HADN'T HEARD: > > Projected times and running order is as follows: > Doors open 2pm. > John Otway, the Bunsen Burner 2 Hit Wonder!! (2.20 pm) > Check My Wage, new generation emo punk (3.05) > Random Negative, new generation rocky punk (3.40) > Stage Bottles, Frankurt anti fascist oi-punk (4.15) > Barnstormer, baroque 'n' roll (5.00) > TV Smith, Adverts/Explorers years ago, still a fantastic singer songwriter > (5.45) > Blyth Power, oh you know them (6.30) > Robb Johnson, political singer songwriter (7.15) > Fish Brothers, punky music hall and follow thru (7.45) > Steve Drewett, Newtown Neurotics (8.30) > Andy Baron and the Believers, superb roots reggae (8.50) > Abdoujaparov, featuring Fruitbat (one half of Carter USM) (9.35) > Jim Bob, (the other half of Carter USM) (10.20) > Blaggers AKA, legendary anti fascists back - new singer Olaf (11.10) > > We are pleased to announce that Bambi and TDL will be backing Steve Drewett > up as honorary Newtown Neurotics at the Brighton bash on Sunday. Tell all > your friends and come early to all three shows. > > Hurrah! > > > Blyth Power > > P.O. Box 255 > Harrogate > HG1 5ZL > 01423 552342 > 56134@blythpower.co.uk > www.blythpower.co.uk > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 18:53:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:53:30 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events Message-ID: <009301c3a497$45d96d40$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this weekend ? Six planets will appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a hexagram or six-pointed star. Additionally, there will be an eclipse of the moon & it's a full moon on the Sunday. The alignment is known as the harmonic concordance - it's event we have never seen before and it will not recur within our lifetimes. So there's a Star Of David in the sky as Spurs are playing at Arsenal - you can but hope :o) * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 19:19:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jim=20Harper?=) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:19:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT - Fw: Blyth Head South For the Winter In-Reply-To: <008701c3a496$1456fa40$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <20031106191959.95203.qmail@web25009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-275269259-1068146399=:94181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Saw Blythe Power at the Spalding Town Hall in probably 1994- first gig I went where I'd actually heard of the band. Antoni Adamiak wrote:Blyth Power in Brentford - that's my Friday night sorted then ... my first gig in 12 that hasn't been Killing Joke ! * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blyth Power" <56134@blythpower.co.uk> To: Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: Blyth Head South For the Winter > Hello Dear All > > Once again we find ourselves among the viagra offers and adverts for penis > enlargement in your inbox - or rather we hope we do, as this week we have > much to tell. > > Blyth Power. reconstituted and refreshed after their travels, are out and > about for a three date weekend in the sunny south, taking in the following: > > Fri 7th Brentford Stripes Club w/Blaggers AKA, Barnstormer and Random > Negative Doors 7.30 BLYTH ONSTAGE 8.30. 020 8380 9916 > > Sat 8th Shoreham Airport Bar w/Stage Bottles & Random Negative > > 01273 870875 > > Sun 9th Brighton Concorde w/Otway and a veritable galaxy of stars. See news > page for full details. Joe Strummer Memorial Benefit > BLYTH ONSTAGE 6.30 > 01273 870875 > > Note the early stage times on Friday and Sunday. > > SUNDAY'S LINE-UP IN CASE YOU HADN'T HEARD: > > Projected times and running order is as follows: > Doors open 2pm. > John Otway, the Bunsen Burner 2 Hit Wonder!! (2.20 pm) > Check My Wage, new generation emo punk (3.05) > Random Negative, new generation rocky punk (3.40) > Stage Bottles, Frankurt anti fascist oi-punk (4.15) > Barnstormer, baroque 'n' roll (5.00) > TV Smith, Adverts/Explorers years ago, still a fantastic singer songwriter > (5.45) > Blyth Power, oh you know them (6.30) > Robb Johnson, political singer songwriter (7.15) > Fish Brothers, punky music hall and follow thru (7.45) > Steve Drewett, Newtown Neurotics (8.30) > Andy Baron and the Believers, superb roots reggae (8.50) > Abdoujaparov, featuring Fruitbat (one half of Carter USM) (9.35) > Jim Bob, (the other half of Carter USM) (10.20) > Blaggers AKA, legendary anti fascists back - new singer Olaf (11.10) > > We are pleased to announce that Bambi and TDL will be backing Steve Drewett > up as honorary Newtown Neurotics at the Brighton bash on Sunday. Tell all > your friends and come early to all three shows. > > Hurrah! > > > Blyth Power > > P.O. Box 255 > Harrogate > HG1 5ZL > 01423 552342 > 56134@blythpower.co.uk > www.blythpower.co.uk > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-275269259-1068146399=:94181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Saw Blythe Power at the Spalding Town Hall in probably 1994- first gig I went where I'd actually heard of the band.

Antoni Adamiak <antoni@clara.net> wrote:
Blyth Power in Brentford - that's my Friday night sorted then ... my first
gig in 12 that hasn't been Killing Joke !

* http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *

----- Original Message -----
From: "Blyth Power" <56134@blythpower.co.uk>
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:18 PM
Subject: Blyth Head South For the Winter


> Hello Dear All
>
> Once again we find ourselves among the viagra offers and adverts for penis
> enlargement in your inbox - or rather we hope we do, as this week we have
> much to tell.
>
> Blyth Power. reconstituted and refreshed after their travels, are out and
> about for a three date weekend in the sunny south, taking in the
following:
>
> Fri 7th Brentford Stripes Club w/Blaggers AKA, Barnstormer and Random
> Negative Doors 7.30 BLYTH ONSTAGE 8.30. 020 8380 9916
>
> Sat 8th Shoreham Airport Bar w/Stage Bottles & Random Negative
>
> 01273 870875
>
> Sun 9th Brighton Concorde w/Otway and a veritable galaxy of stars. See
news
> page for full details. Joe Strummer Memorial Benefit
> BLYTH ONSTAGE 6.30
> 01273 870875
>
> Note the early stage times on Friday and Sunday.
>
> SUNDAY'S LINE-UP IN CASE YOU HADN'T HEARD:
>
> Projected times and running order is as follows:
> Doors open 2pm.
> John Otway, the Bunsen Burner 2 Hit Wonder!! (2.20 pm)
> Check My Wage, new generation emo punk (3.05)
> Random Negative, new generation rocky punk (3.40)
> Stage Bottles, Frankurt anti fascist oi-punk (4.15)
> Barnstormer, baroque 'n' roll (5.00)
> TV Smith, Adverts/Explorers years ago, still a fantastic singer songwriter
> (5.45)
> Blyth Power, oh you know them (6.30)
> Robb Johnson, political singer songwriter (7.15)
> Fish Brothers, punky music hall and follow thru (7.45)
> Steve Drewett, Newtown Neurotics (8.30)
> Andy Baron and the Believers, superb roots reggae (8.50)
> Abdoujaparov, featuring Fruitbat (one half of Carter USM) (9.35)
> Jim Bob, (the other half of Carter USM) (10.20)
> Blaggers AKA, legendary anti fascists back - new singer Olaf (11.10)
>
> We are pleased to announce that Bambi and TDL will be backing Steve
Drewett
> up as honorary Newtown Neurotics at the Brighton bash on Sunday. Tell all
> your friends and come early to all three shows.
>
> Hurrah!
>
>
> Blyth Power
>
> P.O. Box 255
> Harrogate
> HG1 5ZL
> 01423 552342
> 56134@blythpower.co.uk
> www.blythpower.co.uk
>


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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-275269259-1068146399=:94181-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 19:31:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:31:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events References: <009301c3a497$45d96d40$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <00af01c3a49c$a127cf20$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> The question has been asked - any links ? Well, there seem to be a few about "harmonic concordance" - try this one : http://www.crystalinks.com/harmoniconcord.html Time for some light reading methinks ... Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoni Adamiak" To: Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events > Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this weekend ? Six planets will > appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a hexagram or six-pointed star. > Additionally, there will be an eclipse of the moon & it's a full moon on the > Sunday. > > The alignment is known as the harmonic concordance - it's event we have > never seen before and it will not recur within our lifetimes. So there's a > Star Of David in the sky as Spurs are playing at Arsenal - you can but hope > :o) > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 20:14:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:14:11 -0000 Subject: [kj] letting off steam Message-ID: <00bd01c3a4a2$8baf8920$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> Some humour from The Gathering Message Board ... worth sharing ... http://www.misera.net/gathering/board/messages/4401.html misheard lyrics - on a lighter note Posted by Kate on November 06, 2003 at 16:37:44: (194.70.27.46) i was driving a mate through to the Jane's Addiction gig in Glasgow last night and stuck on the last KY album (I think she meant KJ) as he'd never heard it before. Halfway through "Total Invasion" he asked "Did he just say 'Man eats kettle'?"!!! I'll never be able to listen to that with a straight face again... **************************** * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * **************************** From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 20:23:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 15:23:53 EST Subject: [kj] letting off steam Message-ID: <19d.1ca20f45.2cdc07d9@aol.com> Do u know how the Jane's Addiction gig went?I wanted to go but work commitments dictated otherwise.I saw them at the Network in Edinburgh in 91 and it was a bloody great gig. If you could tell me anything about it,it would be greatly appreciated. Lyle From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 20:27:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (william) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:27:57 -0800 Subject: [kj] KJ article in 'georgia straight' References: <009301c3a497$45d96d40$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> <00af01c3a49c$a127cf20$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <001801c3a4a4$77d44e20$4145cf18@d2k3a5> below is an article from this weeks paper..... http://www.straight.com/?defaultarticle=&defaultnode=45239&layout=227&pagefunction=Load%20Layout Influential Killing Joke gets the last laugh By John Lucas Killing Joke is among the most influential rock acts of the past 25 years. If that seems like a bit of a stretch, consider that the U.K.­spawned band's influence has mostly been a secondhand one. The group has never had more than a cult following in North America, but that following contains a large number of musicians whose work has given rise to legions of imitators who wouldn't recognize "Wardance" if you shouted it in their ears. The midnight-black industrial rock offered by the likes of Ministry and Nine Inch Nails owes its very existence to the dark, churning concoction of goth, metal, and punk that Killing Joke has been brewing since 1978. The late Kurt Cobain was so inspired by Killing Joke that he borrowed a riff from the band's song "Eighties" for Nirvana's "Come As You Are"--a move that nearly resulted in a lawsuit in 1992. There's a certain poetic justice, then, in the fact that former Nirvana beatkeeper Dave Grohl played all the drum tracks on Killing Joke's new, self-titled album, the group's first full-length release since 1996's Democracy. "Our original idea was to have three drummers--John [Dolmayan] from System of a Down, Danny [Carey] from Tool, and Dave," Killing Joke singer Jaz Coleman says, on the line from Toronto. "But when Dave heard the album, he wanted to do the whole thing. He is one serious drummer. It's a pity we don't see him behind the kit more often." Indeed. Grohl's superhuman, algebraic pounding ups the intensity of numbers such as "Implant" and "Seeing Red", which would have been blisteringly heavy even without the masterful percussionist's propulsive beats. Grohl has since gone back to his day job as singer-guitarist with the Foo Fighters, and former Prong and Swans beatsmith Ted Parsons has taken over the throne for the tour that brings Killing Joke to Richard's on Richards on Tuesday (November 11). Coleman says he doesn't imagine Foo fans will come flocking to his band's shows as a result of Grohl's endorsement. "I kinda like some of the songs, but to be honest, their audience is not our audience." Chances are, many Foo Fighters followers wouldn't know what to make of Killing Joke's lyrics. Filled with Coleman's signature end-of-all-things imagery, songs such as "Total Invasion" and "Asteroid" offer harrowing glimpses of an all-too-imminent apocalyptic future that could await the people of this planet if we don't change our fucked-up ways. For all the rhetoric in his songs, Coleman claims not to be a political person. "I'm extremist Green," says the singer, who lives on a small island off the coast of New Zealand, although he won't say which one. ("I've had too many nutcases come after me.") "That's the only way I could describe myself. I believe in alternative forms of energy. I believe in sustainable resources. I believe in a polyculture; I believe in permaculture. All these things are very dear to me, and I think it's our duty to have a crack at saving the planet before we destroy it for our descendents." From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 20:58:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (foolscircle9ways) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:58:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events In-Reply-To: <009301c3a497$45d96d40$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <20031106205835.77872.qmail@web10010.mail.yahoo.com> --0-990339444-1068152315=:76642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Where to begin? Well, one of the "planets" is the Asteroioioioid Chiron and the majority of the aspects have happened well before the eclipse. It's known as harmonic convergence by some divot who likes big words that make him sound like a mystic prophet who knows what he's talking about (so not so far off-topic after all ;) And of course it's a full moon, when the hell else would you get a lunar eclipse? Stuart on his High Horse hmmmm....Spurs in the Arse???? Antoni Adamiak wrote: Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this weekend ? Six planets will appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a hexagram or six-pointed star. Additionally, there will be an eclipse of the moon & it's a full moon on the Sunday. The alignment is known as the harmonic concordance - it's event we have never seen before and it will not recur within our lifetimes. So there's a Star Of David in the sky as Spurs are playing at Arsenal - you can but hope :o) * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-990339444-1068152315=:76642 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Where to begin?
Well, one of the "planets" is the Asteroioioioid Chiron and the majority of the aspects have happened well before the eclipse. It's known as harmonic convergence by some divot who likes big words that make him sound like a mystic prophet who knows what he's talking about (so not so far off-topic after all ;)
 
And of course it's a full moon, when the hell else would you get a lunar eclipse?
 
Stuart on his High Horse
 
hmmmm....Spurs in the Arse????

Antoni Adamiak <antoni@clara.net> wrote:
Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this weekend ? Six planets will
appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a hexagram or six-pointed star.
Additionally, there will be an eclipse of the moon & it's a full moon on the
Sunday.

The alignment is known as the harmonic concordance - it's event we have
never seen before and it will not recur within our lifetimes. So there's a
Star Of David in the sky as Spurs are playing at Arsenal - you can but hope
:o)

* http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *


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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-990339444-1068152315=:76642-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 22:03:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:03:19 EST Subject: Fwd: [kj] Killing Joke: the horse Message-ID: <152.266c3d04.2cdc1f27@aol.com> --part1_152.266c3d04.2cdc1f27_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_152.266c3d04.2cdc1f27_alt_boundary" --part1_152.266c3d04.2cdc1f27_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe its a ploy so that next time it runs it goes out at a higher price and romps home first ! Dave --part1_152.266c3d04.2cdc1f27_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe its a ploy so that next time it runs it goes out= at a higher price and romps home first !

Dave --part1_152.266c3d04.2cdc1f27_alt_boundary-- --part1_152.266c3d04.2cdc1f27_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-ya06.mx.aol.com (rly-ya06.mail.aol.com [172.18.141.38]) by air-ya01.mail.aol.com (v97.8) with ESMTP id MAILINYA13-76d3faa4a17233; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:18:42 -0500 Received: from four.pairlist.net (four.pairlist.net [216.92.1.120]) by rly-ya06.mx.aol.com (v97.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYA63-76d3faa4a17233; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:18:15 -0500 Received: from four.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC9ADB97; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:18:14 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gathering@four.pairlist.net Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CB6C5DB70 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5783 invoked by uid 7122); 6 Nov 2003 13:11:30 -0000 Delivered-To: misera-misera:net-gathering@misera.net Received: (qmail 5777 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2003 13:11:30 -0000 Received: from sea1-f79.sea1.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.68.163.79) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2003 13:11:30 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 05:11:30 -0800 Received: from 81.26.100.239 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 13:11:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [81.26.100.239] X-Originating-Email: [stay_one_jump_ahead@hotmail.com] From: "pr 001" To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: Fwd: [kj] Killing Joke: the horse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2003 13:11:30.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E2D2360:01C3A467] Sender: gathering-admin@misera.net Errors-To: gathering-admin@misera.net X-BeenThere: gathering@misera.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gathering@misera.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:11:29 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 216.92.1.120 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) >From: Wrightdvdw@aol.com > >It finished 8th in the end priced at 20/1. sounds like it needs to be put down and out of its misery. obviously past its best. _________________________________________________________________ >From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --part1_152.266c3d04.2cdc1f27_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 23:08:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:08:10 -0500 Subject: [kj] roskilde Message-ID: <489C5497.398B1835.0004DF86@aol.com> Big thanks to Rob for putting this up. I'm listening to Blue Feather right now. I didn't realise that a live version of this existed! It's one of my favourite Joke tracks, so it's great to hear it live at last. Might have another stab at the lyrics... Jamie From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 6 23:14:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:14:09 EST Subject: [kj] roskilde Message-ID: <1db.13dd4b62.2cdc2fc1@aol.com> --part1_1db.13dd4b62.2cdc2fc1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What record is "Blue Feather" from? It's not "Birds of a Feather", a 45 that I think came out between Revelations and Fire Dances (kind of a poppy version of "Emprire Song"), is it? I haven't listened to the MP3 concert yet. --part1_1db.13dd4b62.2cdc2fc1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What record is "Blue Feather" from? It's not "Birds of= a Feather", a 45 that I think came out between Revelations and Fire Dances=20= (kind of a poppy version of "Emprire Song"), is it? I haven't listened to th= e MP3 concert yet. --part1_1db.13dd4b62.2cdc2fc1_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 00:55:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (wehavejoy) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 00:55:21 -0000 Subject: [kj] roskilde References: <1db.13dd4b62.2cdc2fc1@aol.com> Message-ID: <003c01c3a4c9$d1fe6dc0$d27d2352@nonedo4ir6vr4l> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C3A4C9.D1E42F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >What record is "Blue Feather" from? It's an unreleased track from the Nightime sessions . . a remix (or = version) appeared on the B Side to Love Like Blood & it also turned up = on a radio session from around the same time . .=20 Marc. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: GregSlawson@aol.com=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [kj] roskilde What record is "Blue Feather" from? It's not "Birds of a Feather", a = 45 that I think came out between Revelations and Fire Dances (kind of a = poppy version of "Emprire Song"), is it? I haven't listened to the MP3 = concert yet. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C3A4C9.D1E42F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>What record is "Blue Feather"=20 from?
 
It's an unreleased track from the = Nightime sessions=20 . . a remix (or version) appeared on the B Side to Love Like Blood & = it also=20 turned up on a radio session from around the same time . .
 
Marc.
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Subject: Re: [kj] = roskilde

What record is "Blue Feather" from? It's not = "Birds of a=20 Feather", a 45 that I think came out between Revelations and Fire = Dances (kind=20 of a poppy version of "Emprire Song"), is it? I haven't listened to = the MP3=20 concert yet. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C3A4C9.D1E42F00-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 01:51:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 01:51:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Hmmmmmmmm Message-ID: <5717888.1068169881672.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Just deleted my entire inbox, apart from this one which I'll read again for the ninth time. Keep it up Paul N > from: pr 001 > > you shagged KILLING JOKE, rob?!?! you lucky b'stard. > > i can't believe all the crap i've been reading recently about what a chore > it must be to be KJ on tour. if you bought a cd and half the tracks were > missing and the rest were rubbish quality you'd expect your money back and > likewise should be the case for a gig. people who travel long distances and > may not have much spare cash have every right to expect a professional > performance, however small the crowd. yeah, what a hassle it must be > creating the greatest noise known to man night after night. the sound of the > earth vomiting. the classical music of the future. the beautiful ugly > symphony. pfffft, what a drag. > > so put on your masks. and animal skins. no illumination. no illumination. > listen to the drums. can't hear the guitar. just the fucking drums. oh > beloved pissheads of england - hold me in contempt! burn burn, not very > brightly. on a par with richard whiteley. bottles and empty cans - streak > across the sky. so sorry, so go to: THE WE-CAN'T-BE-BOTHERED SHOW! > > >--- sade1 wrote: > >How about all the sex with the groupies? doesn't make up for > >EVERYTHING? > > > >saul > > > >--- Leigh Newton wrote: > >You > > > had dressing rooms? LUCKY! hehe. All that said, the > > > highs by far outshine the lows. If you're into it, i > > > guess. I don't know. It's fun. fun! > > > >===== > >WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > > > >"Get me out > > of the here and now > > I want to be > > another here, another..." > > _________________________________________________________________ > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 02:02:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:17 EST Subject: [kj] Some new old stuff (Peyr) Message-ID: <140.1bfef218.2cdc5729@aol.com> --part1_140.1bfef218.2cdc5729_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't seem to get the Peyr tracks to play on the computer. Any suggestions? Which program should I use to open it? Thanks. --part1_140.1bfef218.2cdc5729_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't seem to get the Peyr tracks to play on the com= puter. Any suggestions? Which program should I use to open it? Thanks. --part1_140.1bfef218.2cdc5729_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 02:25:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mike) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:25:52 -0500 Subject: [kj] Help ;] Message-ID: <003d01c3a4d6$777dde00$5359bd18@gunner> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_3S1R9MIzwZqN3L92koh81g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Would someone please be as kind to send me "New Day". I/ve been trying to to snag it,but i/m having terrible luck. Thanks New Guy Mike --Boundary_(ID_3S1R9MIzwZqN3L92koh81g) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Would someone please be as kind to send me "New Day".
  I/ve been trying to to snag it,but i/m having terrible luck.
                                                     Thanks
                                                           New Guy Mike
--Boundary_(ID_3S1R9MIzwZqN3L92koh81g)-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 03:28:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:28:49 -0500 Subject: [kj] roskilde Message-ID: <200311070329.hA73TUgt006941@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> I'll second that! Cheers, Rob, for that! Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Jpwhkj@aol.com >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] roskilde >Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 6:08 PM > >Big thanks to Rob for putting this up. I'm listening to Blue Feather right >now. I didn't realise that a live version of this existed! It's one of my >favourite Joke tracks, so it's great to hear it live at last. > >Might have another stab at the lyrics... > >Jamie >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 03:31:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:31:33 -0500 Subject: [kj] Help ;] Message-ID: <200311070331.hA73TUgx006941@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151002693_15955_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I have an mp3 of it on me computer at work. I'll get it to you by tomorrow night, Mike (if no one else beats me to it, that is)! Alex in NYC ---------- From: Mike To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] Help ;] Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 9:25 PM Would someone please be as kind to send me "New Day". I/ve been trying to to snag it,but i/m having terrible luck. Thanks New Guy Mike --MS_Mac_OE_3151002693_15955_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Help ;]
I have an mp3 of it on me computer at work. I'll get it to you by tomorrow = night, Mike (if no one else beats me to it, that is)!

Alex in NYC


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From: Mike <tailgnr@optonline.net>
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: [kj] Help ;]
Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 9:25 PM


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--MS_Mac_OE_3151002693_15955_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 11:59:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Wayne Ellis) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:59:14 -0000 Subject: [kj] Anybody Taping The SF Slims Gig - (Have Sheffield and Older Stuff To Trade) Message-ID: <00ab01c3a526$914c8fc0$12626363@jennic.com> Hi, Is anybody planning to tape the San Francisco Slims gig next week ? I'm based in the UK but will be in SF that week so I'm planning to go, if logistics work out ok - but don't fancy taking my gear out with me. So, is anybody planning on taping this one ? I have a DAT master from this years Sheffield Leadmill gig and a few cassette masters from the early/mid 80's to trade. thanks Wayne From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 12:51:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:51:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Drug DAT Message-ID: <824512.1068209518113.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> I have a DAT copy of the track Drug which is no use to me and just collecting dust. If anyone wants it - perhaps one of you remixers out there - let me know and I'll put it in the post. 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Message-ID: --============_-1143911742==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" ...tockery http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/clock.html -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1143911742==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" tickery...
...tockery
http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/clock.html
--
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk
... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
--============_-1143911742==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 13:47:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Saxton) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:47:40 -0000 Subject: [kj] tickery... References: Message-ID: <001a01c3a535$b63c4a00$f9b72ad9@musicpc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3A535.B61783F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickery...Mike, could I have number 23 (ver clok) if I order it for my = Christmas pressy from my lady? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mike coles=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: [kj] tickery... ...tockery http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/clock.html --=20 Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3A535.B61783F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickery...
Mike, could I have number 23 (ver clok) = if I order=20 it for my Christmas pressy from my lady?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mike coles
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 = 1:12=20 PM
Subject: [kj] tickery...

...tockery
http://www.malicious= damage.co.uk/clock.html
--=20
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.u= k
...=20 and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3A535.B61783F0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 13:51:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:51:04 +0100 Subject: [kj] tickery... Message-ID:

I've just ordered 75 clocks...... you'd better hurry up!!!

 

mike, could i have number 25?

dirt

>From: mike coles
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: [kj] tickery...
>Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:12:29 +0000
>
>...tockery
>http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/clock.html
>--
>Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk
>... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk

MSN Mobile - Hotmail Nachrichten aufs Handy Hier klicken From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 14:06:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:06:34 +0000 Subject: [kj] malicious clocks Message-ID: --============_-1143908498==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" dirty Dirk said: I've just ordered 75 clocks...... you'd better hurry up!!! mike, could i have number 25? Yes Dirk, but what about the other 74? cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1143908498==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" malicious clocks
dirty Dirk said:
I've just ordered 75 clocks...... you'd better hurry up!!!

mike, could i have number 25?
Yes Dirk, but what about the other 74?
cheers,
colesy
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... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
--============_-1143908498==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 14:43:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:43:52 -0500 Subject: [kj] Anybody Taping The SF Slims Gig - (Have Sheffield and Older Stuff To Trade) References: <00ab01c3a526$914c8fc0$12626363@jennic.com> Message-ID: <001901c3a53d$90db8700$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C3A513.A743B5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wayne, what gigs are the masters from the mid eighties, any from 83-84? =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wayne Ellis=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:59 AM Subject: [kj] Anybody Taping The SF Slims Gig - (Have Sheffield and = Older Stuff To Trade) Hi, Is anybody planning to tape the San Francisco Slims gig next week ?=20 I'm based in the UK but will be in SF that week so I'm=20 planning to go, if logistics work out ok - but don't fancy taking my gear out with me. So, is anybody planning on taping this one ? I have a DAT master from this years Sheffield Leadmill gig and a few cassette masters from the early/mid 80's to trade. thanks Wayne _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C3A513.A743B5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
wayne, what gigs are the masters from the mid = eighties, any=20 from 83-84?
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Wayne = Ellis
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 = 6:59=20 AM
Subject: [kj] Anybody Taping = The SF Slims=20 Gig - (Have Sheffield and Older Stuff To Trade)


Hi,

Is anybody planning to tape the San = Francisco=20 Slims
gig next week ?

I'm based in the UK but will be in SF = that=20 week so I'm
planning to go, if logistics work out ok - but = don't
fancy=20 taking my gear out with me. So, is anybody
planning on taping this = one=20 ?

I have a DAT master from this years Sheffield Leadmill
gig = and a=20 few cassette masters from the early/mid 80's
to=20 = trade.

thanks

Wayne

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Gathering=20 mailing list
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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C3A513.A743B5A0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 14:53:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:53:22 -0500 Subject: [kj] tickery... Message-ID: <200311071454.hA7Es2gt000344@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151043602_104444_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I've ordered already. Alex in NYC ---------- From: mike coles To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] tickery... Date: Fri, Nov 7, 2003, 8:12 AM ...tockery http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/clock.html -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --MS_Mac_OE_3151043602_104444_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] tickery...
I've ordered already.

Alex in NYC


----------
From: mike coles <mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk>
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: [kj] tickery...
Date: Fri, Nov 7, 2003, 8:12 AM


...tockery
http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/clock.html
--
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousd= amage.co.uk
... and you can find more Killing Joke at = http://www.studio-c.co.uk

--MS_Mac_OE_3151043602_104444_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 16:11:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?=) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:11:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Re: misheard lyrics In-Reply-To: <9FE192059320CD4A976B93BC929B5725019807F1@ECOWV05M.Telewest.Internal> Message-ID: <20031107161116.43546.qmail@web86109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I mishear "I'm a loose cannon" as "Emily's cat" my friend Vicky's 2 yr old daughter is called Emily & she has 2 cats When I looked up the KJ site on their computer, Emily danced about to Zennon & Total Invasion but she likes Teletubbies better ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 16:20:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?=) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:20:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] more lunacy & going bananas + links to The Brain In-Reply-To: <20031106205835.77872.qmail@web10010.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031107162001.72312.qmail@web86107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> And on this day Melt Banana will play their last UK gig in Nottingham where I recently had a Joke Frenzy! I'll be seeing them 9 times this tour Only saw The Joke 8 times! Here's my review of the album http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/brainv06i36.html & here's the review of 4 of the gigs http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/brainv06i40.html Also reviewed the album for Flux magazine I've written about the other gigs but Jon didn't want to run it on The Brain so I'll post it here soon thnx GROWLand > Antoni Adamiak wrote: > Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this > weekend ? Six planets will > appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a hexagram > or six-pointed star. > Additionally, there will be an eclipse of the moon & > it's a full moon on the > Sunday. > > The alignment is known as the harmonic concordance - > it's event we have > never seen before and it will not recur within our > lifetimes. So there's a > Star Of David in the sky as Spurs are playing at > Arsenal - you can but hope > :o) > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > If you're not living on the edge you're taking up > too much room. > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 16:13:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Simon Lee) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:13:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT eclipse/hexagram Message-ID: <3446373.1068221592153.JavaMail.root@bushtv-java-2.server.telinco.net> ------=_Part_248_4944926.1068221592151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Michell - who wrote The View Over Atlantis and other books I'd strongly recommend - wrote a nice little piece about this in yesterday's Daily Mirror. In the unlikely event of a Spurs victory over Arsenal clearly we will indeed be witnessing something that will not recur again in our lifetimes (especially true for whoever it is that's going to be dead before the next KJ UK gig). Cheers! Si > -----Original Message----- > From: antoni@clara.net (Antoni Adamiak) > Sent: Thu Nov 06 18:53:30 GMT 2003 > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events > > Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this weekend ? Six planets will > appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a hexagram or six-pointed star. > Additionally, there will be an eclipse of the moon & it's a full moon on the > Sunday. > > The alignment is known as the harmonic concordance - it's event we have > never seen before and it will not recur within our lifetimes. So there's a > Star Of David in the sky as Spurs are playing at Arsenal - you can but hope > :o) > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > ------=_Part_248_4944926.1068221592151 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Return-path: Envelope-to: slee@bushtv-3-internal.mail.telinco.net Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:54:08 +0000 Received: from bushtv-1-internal.mail.telinco.net ([192.168.8.182] helo=bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net) by bushtv-3.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1AHpGi-000DAO-00 for slee@bushtv-3-internal.mail.telinco.net; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:54:08 +0000 Received: from [216.92.1.120] (helo=four.pairlist.net) by bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #7) id 1AHpGg-000KbZ-00; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:54:06 +0000 Received: from four.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D48FDAFD; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:54:05 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gathering@four.pairlist.net Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 91CC6DAED for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27721 invoked by uid 7122); 6 Nov 2003 18:52:31 -0000 Delivered-To: misera-misera:net-gathering@misera.net Received: (qmail 27717 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2003 18:52:31 -0000 Received: from cerberus.uk.clara.net (195.8.69.103) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2003 18:52:31 -0000 Received: from du-032-0214.claranet.co.uk ([212.126.136.214] helo=host) by cerberus.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AHpF8-000BZG-Fa for gathering@misera.net; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 18:52:30 +0000 Message-ID: <009301c3a497$45d96d40$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> From: "Antoni Adamiak" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events Sender: gathering-admin@misera.net Errors-To: gathering-admin@misera.net X-BeenThere: gathering@misera.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gathering@misera.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:53:30 -0000 Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this weekend ? Six planets will appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a hexagram or six-pointed star. Additionally, there will be an eclipse of the moon & it's a full moon on the Sunday. The alignment is known as the harmonic concordance - it's event we have never seen before and it will not recur within our lifetimes. So there's a Star Of David in the sky as Spurs are playing at Arsenal - you can but hope :o) * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_Part_248_4944926.1068221592151-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 18:03:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:03:50 EST Subject: [kj] tickery... Message-ID: <12d.34112a3a.2cdd3886@aol.com> --part1_12d.34112a3a.2cdd3886_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en order placed.=20 judging by the blurb on the page our favourite band will be playing to a=20 rejuvenated audience next time round graham --part1_12d.34112a3a.2cdd3886_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en order placed.
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 --part1_12d.34112a3a.2cdd3886_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 18:11:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 13:11:54 EST Subject: [kj] RE: Jane's Addiction and misheard lyrics Message-ID: <60.377b7b94.2cdd3a6a@aol.com> Thanks for the gig info,I just wish i could of went.Oh well, maybe next time if there is one.I'm from Kilmarnock not Edinburgh,I just had to get up off my lazy ass to go & see them there. Glad you had a good time.I thought it was a strange choice of venue as well. Thanks again, Lyle From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 18:31:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:31:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] more lunacy & going bananas + links to The Brain In-Reply-To: <20031107162001.72312.qmail@web86107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031107183131.6052.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> mmmmmmm! melt bananaaaaa! soooooo good! --- Graeme Rowland wrote: > And on this day > Melt Banana will play their last UK gig in > Nottingham > where I recently had a Joke Frenzy! > > I'll be seeing them 9 times this tour > Only saw The Joke 8 times! > > Here's my review of the album > http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/brainv06i36.html > > & here's the review of 4 of the gigs > http://www.brainwashed.com/brain/brainv06i40.html > > Also reviewed the album for Flux magazine > I've written about the other gigs but Jon didn't > want > to run it on The Brain so I'll post it here soon > thnx > GROWLand > > > > Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this > > weekend ? Six planets will > > appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a > hexagram > > or six-pointed star. > > Additionally, there will be an eclipse of the moon > & > > it's a full moon on the > > Sunday. > > > > The alignment is known as the harmonic concordance > - > > it's event we have > > never seen before and it will not recur within our > > lifetimes. So there's a > > Star Of David in the sky as Spurs are playing at > > Arsenal - you can but hope > > :o) > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > If you're not living on the edge you're taking up > > too much room. > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail > AddressGuard > > ===== > Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine > http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine > > "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC > Gilbert > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? > Get the FREE Yahoo! > Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 19:08:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:08:04 -0000 Subject: [kj] tickery... References: Message-ID: <006b01c3a562$79c77a40$4fa9883e@mycomputer> "One or more of the required fields - name - email. Has not been completed" Yes I have, Can't order the clock. This is staring to irritate me. > ...tockery > http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/clock.html > -- > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 19:09:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:09:33 -0000 Subject: [kj] tickery... References: <001a01c3a535$b63c4a00$f9b72ad9@musicpc> Message-ID: <007f01c3a562$ae57bef0$4fa9883e@mycomputer> Oh, no hang on it acceptted a shorter E-mail address.. Kwel! From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 19:26:28 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (phat seanio) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:26:28 +0000 Subject: [kj] tickery... Message-ID: I THINK i,LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE CLOCKS TO GO IN THE NEW YEAR SALES-I'LL BE LUCKY TO AFFORD A MINUTE HAND FOR XMAS.............................................. >From: "Stephen Robinson" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: >Subject: Re: [kj] tickery... >Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:09:33 -0000 > >Oh, no hang on it acceptted a shorter E-mail address.. > >Kwel! > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 21:30:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (phat seanio) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:30:04 +0000 Subject: [kj] the meatrix Message-ID: .................moopheus needs to show you the way-moo!!! http://www.bancruelfarms.org/meatrix _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 21:47:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:47:47 -0500 Subject: [kj] black moon Message-ID: <00d201c3a578$c8be9e60$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C3A54E.DF624F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable envy those gatherers in portland saturday - to be with killing joke on = the black moon! ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C3A54E.DF624F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01C3A54E.DF624F60-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 22:02:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 17:02:33 -0500 Subject: [kj] Ot(ish) gig review of Firewater in Detroit with a question Message-ID: Hello one and all So last night the Firewater circus came rolling into town. Small turnout and a small club called Small's. It was a good show with a mixture from all of the albums. Tod seemed a little bummed about the low turn out. But Detroit is good for that (look at the Killing Joke Halloween show). So anyway It seemed like most, if not all, of the songs from the first album (Get Off the Cross We Need More Wood for The Fire) were re-worked. Sometimes to the point that of not recognizing it until the chorus. Now grant it all of the new versions were still great. I think the first album is their best so it was...odd to hear this. What makes this different than Killing Joke redoing Wardance for the US release is that it is in a live setting. It is not to fill up time or a release. I mean it can get annoying to try and track down the endless versions and remixes of songs. When it is experienced live it can add to the fact that anything can happen in a setting that is spontaneous and not safe (like a studio). Am I wrong? Flame on Chris _________________________________________________________________ Compare high-speed Internet plans, starting at $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 7 23:48:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 18:48:40 -0500 Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! Message-ID: <200311072349.hA7NnKcw006867@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Because No One demanded it, come see the umpteenth installment of pics from the now-legendary (if brief) evening of Killing Joke at Webster Hall, NYC 10/22/03 In this episode, witness...... * A Mike Coles print in a handsome frame!! * Roadie par excellance Cliff From Alaska at work!!! * Colesy and AlexinNYC drinking irresponsibly!!! * Mike Coles surrendering to the NYPD after taking illegal pics!!!! * Geordie K. Walker strumming the golden harp!!!! * Jaz Coleman gazing into the gaping maw of the apocalypse!!!! * Raven, in fetching camo shorts, getting ready to conjure low-end hell on his bass! * Apres-show drunken shenanigans by Team Gathering, debating whether or not to wake slumbering Jaz on the bus! * Fluw flippin' the bird! * Late time full-on Killing Joke scrum featuring very drunk Gatherers, Jokers, ex-band members and Roadies! * The show's set list in GENUINE Raven penmanship! * The fabled "Malice in Wonderland" two days later photo! Enjoy!!! Alex in NYC From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 00:30:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:30:01 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT eclipse/hexagram References: <3446373.1068221592153.JavaMail.root@bushtv-java-2.server.telinco.net> Message-ID: <00a701c3a58f$737ec4e0$33887ed4@mydomain.com> Anyone who knows will realize I'm not really into the mumbo jumbo but will tap into any opportunity to wind up the Gooners ! C'mon you Spurs (did I really say that ?) * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Lee" To: ; Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:13 PM Subject: [kj] OT eclipse/hexagram > John Michell - who wrote The View Over Atlantis and other books I'd strongly recommend - wrote a nice little piece about this in yesterday's Daily Mirror. > > In the unlikely event of a Spurs victory over Arsenal clearly we will indeed be witnessing something that will not recur again in our lifetimes (especially true for whoever it is that's going to be dead before the next KJ UK gig). > > Cheers! > > Si > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: antoni@clara.net (Antoni Adamiak) > > Sent: Thu Nov 06 18:53:30 GMT 2003 > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events > > > > Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this weekend ? Six planets will > > appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a hexagram or six-pointed star. > > Additionally, there will be an eclipse of the moon & it's a full moon on the > > Sunday. > > > > The alignment is known as the harmonic concordance - it's event we have > > never seen before and it will not recur within our lifetimes. So there's a > > Star Of David in the sky as Spurs are playing at Arsenal - you can but hope > > :o) > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 00:21:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (william) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:21:30 -0800 Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! References: <200311072349.hA7NnKcw006867@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <005f01c3a58e$426d3c20$4145cf18@d2k3a5> link again ,please. [deleted that mail] From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 01:30:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:30:43 EST Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! Message-ID: <3a.40a2cea7.2cdda143@aol.com> Those link(s) again are...... The new page: http://members.aol.com/ludlowstr/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/ The first page: http://members.aol.com/motelhell/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/ Enjoy, Alex in NYC reply to home: vassifer@earthlink.net From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 01:59:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (william) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:59:42 -0800 Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! References: <3a.40a2cea7.2cdda143@aol.com> Message-ID: <000501c3a59b$fa1e27a0$4145cf18@d2k3a5> merci.....pics have me pumped for the vancouver appearance......assuming jaz is feeling better now[fingers crossed]. william in vancouver From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 02:03:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (william) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:03:17 -0800 Subject: [kj] another article /another link Message-ID: <001701c3a59c$7a1fee20$4145cf18@d2k3a5> http://www.terminalcity.ca/Music/current/Last+Laughs.htm /william np::asteroid From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 02:23:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 02:23:39 -0000 Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! Message-ID: <7D368CED82B7A44FAB699FBB41CC921207385FF5@i2km02-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net> http://members.aol.com/ludlowstr/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/pages/late2.htm This is another one for the Viz's up the Arse Corner. Anyone unfamiliar with the fine publication of Viz see : http://www.viz.co.uk I did spot a copy of the Viz on the Killing Joke tour bus. From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 02:27:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:27:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] pictures In-Reply-To: from "lisa.gannon@bt.com" at Nov 08, 2003 02:23:39 AM Message-ID: <200311080227.hA82Rawb021924@basil.jkm.net> I've been a little lost in space lately what with all the posts.... has someone put pictures from Bristol up? From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 02:31:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (P Bernardi) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:31:34 -0500 Subject: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show All right already I was busy yesterday References: Message-ID: <3FAC5586.4030108@erols.com> Back from my northern vacation - time for some responses here. Detroit (Halloween) was a blast. My favorite of all the shows I've seen. I think the Majestic is a great place to see bands: Good stage, sound and the club put alot of effort into the lighting. Some of the keyboards were drown out but otherwise 20 feet back from the stage and the sound was very solid. Met up with fellow Gatherer Chris and his wife, both friendly + great people to chat with. In fact, everyone I met in Detroit on halloween was personable and happy to be there. I entered the venue sometime after 9:30 and caught the last two songs by Amen.... ugh. Enough about them. The Joke went on waaaay late but as Communion started Jaz comes out doing a staccato robot walk. It was freaking hilarious. Raven did have a orange and black sweater - I thought it was for his imitation of Freddy Krueger. During Total Invasion Jaz goes on some kind of a rant - I couldnt discern exactly what he said but he ended it with a fantastic maniacal laugh. All in all a great Halloween. Glad I made the trek up there. And I didnt see any fires or buildings burnt down. p- Christof hamille wrote: > All right, all right, all right, jesus christ I was working all day > yesterday. And for the record it is called Devil's Night the day > before Halloween and the curfew's and neighborhood watches start the > week of Halloween and extending to the few days following. This year > the were only 40 fires and the average number on any given night is > around 40. The arson threat has really not been present for quite > some time. > > All right on tho the show. > > Halloween night. While throwing some candy at some kids the batphone > rings. "I got here at 8:00 PM when the doors opened and Amen just > started playing at 9:00 PM" (parphrasing here ). Holy batshit. I > wasn't planning on getting down there until 10:oo PM or so. So we > close up and get ready. I am gettign ansty because my wife was not > ready in 5 minutes like I was. At this point the batphone rings > again. "Hey Chris it is Paul from the Gathering. I am across the > street from the venue and I will be there in a little while. I got > your money." Damn right you better have my money (I kid, I kid). We > are out the door. No more trick or treaters on the street and the > streets are free for cruising. > Down at the venue. People on cell phones, probably drunk, thinking > their shit is hotter than the sun and on a friday night can really > piss a guy off. I'll just leave it at that. Get to the door I hear > Amen. And then I hear "We are Amen this is our last song.", whew > looks like I got here just in time Killing Joke will be on within the > half hour (time now 9:45 PM). I was not disappointed at all by > missing Amen. If they are good (which they might be), I would not > have that so by what little I have heard. I get in to the venue > (Majestic Theatre *) and I see a man with a leather coat with bones > painted on them (he said "like the Misfits" but Iwas thinking more > like Spinal Tap) it is Paul Bernardi. We talk have a good time. I am > guessing he willbe the winner of seeing the most shows (at least > Stateside). There are not a lot of people. Maybe a couple hundred. > Halloween is a tough night to play in Detroit. There are always big > events going on and parties and all of the other typical crap. And > add the Shonen Knife is playing next door so all of th e garage rock > jerks are there adn then Insane Clown Posse (which didn't they break > up? Man I hoped so. they are getting as bad as Kiss with their > farewell crap) is down the street so all o fthe idiotic jerks are > there. So the venue was a little dry. Paul introduces me to a man > and his wife who know for the life of me I cannto remeber his name (I > really am sorry it was nice meeting you). Well anyway it was > mentioned that the show will start at 11;15 PM. So I did get here > early and why the long gap between Amen and Killing Joke I do not > know. There are a few people dressed up for Halloween. A lot of > older people (like myself) and lost of them showing off their old > Killing Joke t-shirts. the man who cannto be named mentioned that > everyone in the band seem to be in good spirits adn ready to go. > 11;15 PM nothing > 11:30 PM nothing. > Then the lights go out. Faith Healer is blasting through the system. > And now it is time. The set list is the same with one exception. No > Follow the Leader for the encore, BUT, Frenzy is thrown in. Us older > folks are standing at the fron enjoying the show. By the time they > get to Blood On Your Hands the kids could not contain themselves and > had to start moshing around. Everyone seemed to be in good moods. > Jaz was doingthe robotronic arms stutters while Geordie was oozing > around looking as cool as ever. Raven was, well Raven. Complete with > stocking cap and orange and black stripped sweater (I though Mr. > Atkins had the stripped thing patented and played out ;) ) looming > and glooming around. Mr. Parsons was there to play drums and do it > very well. Nick was low key and inthe corner hittignn the keys and > the sounds perfectly. They were good. Tight. It just seemed to be > another show for them. Which is fine but Jaz left us with little > (practically no) stage banter. The only thing I can remeber is "Vote > republican. Wardance". > After the show I gathered up myself to try to meet them. I am not > good at thsi sort of thing. I saw Geordies wife and son (who looks > like a young Geordie) and it seemed like there was a lot of family and > friends from the area. I did not stick aroudn because it was crowded > and I was tired. I was fine with that. Onthe way out I saw Ted and > told him how great he was. He joked around a bit and did fist in the > air thing and said thank you. I stepped outside and foudn myself at > the end of another thrilling Killing Joke show. > I hope they do come back in 2004. And Geordie will be tracked and > stalked and forced to give me guitar lessons. I kid, I kid, I kid. > > Chris > > p.s. Mr Bernadi probably has a better commentary on the night, and a > fine chap also. > > * Majestic Theatre sits on the infamous Woodward Avenue. I believe > some time before the "Big One" (WWII) the Avenue was widened , which > as a result cut the Majestic almost in half. If you look up at the > ceiling you can still see the original ornate tiling and the center > point of it is towards the entrance of the building. Originally it > was a movie and playhouse. It sat vacant for decades. I think some > time in the sixties they gutted all of the seats and started doing > shows again. I am guessing but it probably holds around 600. Really > tall ceilings with not a lot of depth. And as a result the sound is > awful. It bounces around in the worst way imagineable. Recently they > have done a major overhaul of the soundsystem and it is much, much > better. The venue has been open now (regularly) for the last 15 years > or so. Attached to it is the Magic Stick bar/concert venue and the > Garden Bowl which is one of Detroit's oldest Bowling Alleys. The > Majestic Theatre is also known as the last venue Houdini performed at > before being admitted to the hospital directly behind it where he > passed away (from a incident in Vancouver prior). I am not exact on > my history but something like that. > >> From: neilfperry@btinternet.com >> Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> To: gathering@misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 00:56:22 +0000 (GMT) >> >> I was wondering the same... everyone wiped out in some sort >> of cataclysmic halloween gathering apocalypse? 'Hell night' in >> Detroit was always meant to be a bit scary, or so I've heard... >> N >> >> > from: death wish >> > date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:03:18 >> > to: gathering@misera.net >> > subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >> > >> > Dead quiet? What happened in Detroit? Or have I mysteriously fallen >> from the >> > list? >> > >> > T. >> > >> > >> > >From: "Christof hamille" >> > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> > >To: gathering@misera.net >> > >Subject: Re: [kj] Detroit Halloween Show >> > >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:10:38 -0500 >> > > >> > >Who is coming to this show. let me know and we will meet up. tix are >> > >$15.00 >> > > >> > > >> > >chris >> > > >> > > >> > >>From: matt_hawes@linpacmh.com >> > >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> > >>To: gathering@misera.net >> > >>Subject: Re: [kj] Liverpool show >> > >>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:18:04 -0400 >> > >> >> > >>Killing Joke in Detroit on Halloween, Freakin awesome, Im am there... >> > >> >> > >>MAtt >> > >> >> > >> "The information in this e-mail and any >> > >>attachments >> > >>to it are confidential. The contents may not be copied or used >> by anyone >> > >>other than the addressee and must not be further disclosed >> without our >> > >>permission. 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Get two months FREE! > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 02:32:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:32:09 EST Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! Message-ID: <41.3635a50f.2cddafa9@aol.com> "http://members.aol.com/ludlowstr/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/pages/late2.htm This is another one for the Viz's up the Arse Corner." Yeah, that's a bit of an unfortunate shot, isn't it. Wish I could explain it, but as is probably evident, I was well nigh on inebriated at the time. In my defense, I would like to remind skeptics that I'm a happily married man and that the husband of the poor lady pictured took the actual shot. And no one's pants came down. As far as I can remember. Alex in NYC Reply to home: vassifer@earthlink.net From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 02:42:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (P Bernardi) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:42:42 -0500 Subject: [kj] Chicago References: Message-ID: <3FAC5822.8030502@erols.com> The Chicago show KJ played 5 songs off the new album. Total Invasion Blood on yer Hands Seeing Red Death and Resurrection Asteroid Plus during soundcheck (which i heard KJ doing when rummaging thru the record store attached to the club) they played Loose Cannon. So, 5 songs off a 10 song cd is a pretty good representation. The sound was totally fucked live, though. I think it was during Blood on your hands, the feedback from the bass was drowning out everything. So they had to turn down the bass and the low end of all the songs was lost after that. There were some prime dickheads in the chicago audience who apparently think its their world and everyone else just has to deal with their puerile attitudes. And as soon as the show ended the club kicked everyone out real quick. - those events had me more pissed than the crappy sound. Jaz did alot of talking this night and hammed it up during Asteriod. I must say that I prefer Jaz performing more pissed off than smiling and happy. p- Alexi Hamilton wrote: > Chicago was not as bad as that. They did break a sweat and had 2 > songs for an encore (didn't know if that was their choice or if it was > the Metro's doing) But, like that show, they started 45 minutes later > than their posted start time and the sound was shit. At many points, > you couldn't hear Jaz's voice and Geordie's guitar was pretty quiet. > Also, the soundguy couldn't figure out what was up with reoccuring > feedback and Jaz was obviously quite pissed off because of this. > Raven and Geordie would just look at each other and make faces and > smile. They let it roll off their back. You could tell they were > having fun, for the most part. The show was a lot shorter than I was > hoping but they did pull a lot of songs off of older albums to play. > We got songs like Requiem, The Wait, Fall of Because, Kings and Queens > and several others. Their Encore was Asteroid and Pandaemonium. Not > much off the new album to be honest. Sad that they didn't play The > House that Pain Built. > > ~Alexi > > > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 02:45:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:45:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Anybody Taping The SF Slims Gig - (Have Sheffield and Older Stuff To Trade) In-Reply-To: <00ab01c3a526$914c8fc0$12626363@jennic.com> Message-ID: <20031108024504.90891.qmail@web80401.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2109919777-1068259504=:87961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii no taping, but I'll be there..... Tom. Wayne Ellis wrote: Hi, Is anybody planning to tape the San Francisco Slims gig next week ? I'm based in the UK but will be in SF that week so I'm planning to go, if logistics work out ok - but don't fancy taking my gear out with me. So, is anybody planning on taping this one ? I have a DAT master from this years Sheffield Leadmill gig and a few cassette masters from the early/mid 80's to trade. thanks Wayne _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --0-2109919777-1068259504=:87961 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
no taping, but I'll be there.....
 
Tom.

Wayne Ellis <we1@jennic.com> wrote:

Hi,

Is anybody planning to tape the San Francisco Slims
gig next week ?

I'm based in the UK but will be in SF that week so I'm
planning to go, if logistics work out ok - but don't
fancy taking my gear out with me. So, is anybody
planning on taping this one ?

I have a DAT master from this years Sheffield Leadmill
gig and a few cassette masters from the early/mid 80's
to trade.

thanks

Wayne

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--0-2109919777-1068259504=:87961-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 03:36:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 03:36:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! Message-ID: <4480463.1068262598322.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Christ, those 'latescrum' pics are terrifying > from: MotelHell@aol.com > date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 01:30:43 > to: vassifer@earthlink.net, gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! > > > > Those link(s) again are...... > > The new page: > http://members.aol.com/ludlowstr/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/ > > The first page: > http://members.aol.com/motelhell/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/ > > Enjoy, > Alex in NYC -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 03:36:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:36:46 -0600 Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! In-Reply-To: <41.3635a50f.2cddafa9@aol.com> Message-ID: On 11/7/03 8:32 PM, "MotelHell@aol.com" wrote: > "http://members.aol.com/ludlowstr/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/pages/late2.htm > > > This is another one for the Viz's up the Arse Corner." > > Yeah, that's a bit of an unfortunate shot, isn't it. Wish I could explain it, > but as is probably evident, I was well nigh on inebriated at the time. In my > defense, I would like to remind skeptics that I'm a happily married man and > that the husband of the poor lady pictured took the actual shot. And no one's > pants came down. As far as I can remember. > > Alex in NYC > Reply to home: vassifer@earthlink.net Actually, it looks like your grabbing Kara in an attempt to get away. Looks more like Dirk is having his way wiff you...hahaha KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 04:09:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 20:09:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031108040912.8722.qmail@web80401.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1665845262-1068264552=:8693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Damn fine pictures, Alex and co.!! Tom. Jester wrote: On 11/7/03 8:32 PM, "MotelHell@aol.com" wrote: > "http://members.aol.com/ludlowstr/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/pages/late2.htm > > > This is another one for the Viz's up the Arse Corner." > > Yeah, that's a bit of an unfortunate shot, isn't it. Wish I could explain it, > but as is probably evident, I was well nigh on inebriated at the time. In my > defense, I would like to remind skeptics that I'm a happily married man and > that the husband of the poor lady pictured took the actual shot. And no one's > pants came down. As far as I can remember. > > Alex in NYC > Reply to home: vassifer@earthlink.net Actually, it looks like your grabbing Kara in an attempt to get away. Looks more like Dirk is having his way wiff you...hahaha KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --0-1665845262-1068264552=:8693 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Damn fine pictures, Alex and co.!!
 
Tom.
 


Jester <killing_joke1@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 11/7/03 8:32 PM, "MotelHell@aol.com" wrote:

> "http://members.aol.com/ludlowstr/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/pages/late2.htm
>
>
> This is another one for the Viz's up the Arse Corner."
>
> Yeah, that's a bit of an unfortunate shot, isn't it. Wish I could explain it,
> but as is probably evident, I was well nigh on inebriated at the time. In my
> defense, I would like to remind skeptics that I'm a happily married man and
> that the husband of the poor lady pictured took the actual shot. And no one's
> pants came down. As far as I can remember.
>
> Alex in NYC
> Reply to home: vassifer@earthlink.net


Actually, it looks like your grabbing Kara in an attempt to get away. Looks
more like Dirk is having his way wiff you...hahaha


KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
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--0-1665845262-1068264552=:8693-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 05:13:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Michael Garcia) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 21:13:03 -0800 Subject: [kj] Anybody Taping The SF Slims Gig - (Have Sheffield and Older Stuff To Trade) References: <20031108024504.90891.qmail@web80401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003e01c3a5b6$fc8f0c50$5abf9b0c@dragonflmznxwc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C3A573.EE472D50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I''ll be ther as well. I'll let everyone whos going know what I'll be = wearing. I'd love you buy you a pint Cheers, Michael ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thomas Kennedy=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Anybody Taping The SF Slims Gig - (Have Sheffield = and Older Stuff To Trade) no taping, but I'll be there..... Tom. Wayne Ellis wrote: Hi, Is anybody planning to tape the San Francisco Slims gig next week ?=20 I'm based in the UK but will be in SF that week so I'm=20 planning to go, if logistics work out ok - but don't fancy taking my gear out with me. So, is anybody planning on taping this one ? I have a DAT master from this years Sheffield Leadmill gig and a few cassette masters from the early/mid 80's to trade. thanks Wayne _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C3A573.EE472D50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I''ll be ther as well. I'll let = everyone whos going=20 know what I'll be wearing. I'd love you buy you a pint
 
Cheers,
 
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thomas Kennedy
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 = 6:45=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Anybody = Taping The SF=20 Slims Gig - (Have Sheffield and Older Stuff To Trade)

no taping, but I'll be there.....
 
Tom.

Wayne Ellis <we1@jennic.com> = wrote:

Hi,

Is=20 anybody planning to tape the San Francisco Slims
gig next week ?=20

I'm based in the UK but will be in SF that week so I'm =
planning=20 to go, if logistics work out ok - but don't
fancy taking my gear = out with=20 me. So, is anybody
planning on taping this one ?

I have a = DAT=20 master from this years Sheffield Leadmill
gig and a few cassette = masters=20 from the early/mid 80's
to=20 = trade.

thanks

Wayne

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------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C3A573.EE472D50-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 05:18:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:18:37 EST Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! Message-ID: <172.21bf03f6.2cddd6ad@aol.com> "Actually, it looks like your grabbing Kara in an attempt to get away. Looks more like Dirk is having his way wiff you...hahaha" Jeezum Crowe, you're right! On closer inspection, it DOES look like I'm takin' one for the team (or taking one FROM the team, as the case may be). Fuck! It looks like one big drunken dry-hump there. Apologies, all. Scoot the kids outta the room, this is not safe viewing. Alex in NYC Reply to home e-mail: vassifer@earthlink.net From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 06:17:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 00:17:21 -0600 Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! In-Reply-To: <172.21bf03f6.2cddd6ad@aol.com> Message-ID: On 11/7/03 11:18 PM, "MotelHell@aol.com" wrote: > > > "Actually, it looks like your grabbing Kara in an attempt to get away. Looks > more like Dirk is having his way wiff you...hahaha" > > Jeezum Crowe, you're right! On closer inspection, it DOES look like I'm > takin' one for the team (or taking one FROM the team, as the case may be). > Fuck! It > looks like one big drunken dry-hump there. Apologies, all. Scoot the kids > outta the room, this is not safe viewing. > > Alex in NYC > Reply to home e-mail: vassifer@earthlink.net Who knew that Dirk actually is "DIRK DIGGLER"!?!?!?!?! KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 07:44:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 02:44:03 EST Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events Message-ID: <9b.4043a1b6.2cddf8c3@aol.com> --part1_9b.4043a1b6.2cddf8c3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SO WHAT !! --part1_9b.4043a1b6.2cddf8c3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SO WHAT !! --part1_9b.4043a1b6.2cddf8c3_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 08:27:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?killing=20joke?=) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:27:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] A CD CALLED LOVE LIKE BLOOD Message-ID: <20031108082712.5103.qmail@web25101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-768724338-1068280032=:4992 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-21317851-1068280032=:4992" --0-21317851-1068280032=:4992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit WADE THROUGH THIS ITS WORTH IT: Note: forwarded message attached. --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-21317851-1068280032=:4992 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
WADE THROUGH THIS ITS WORTH IT:

Note: forwarded message attached.

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Any one else been to HMV in the UK lately??
>
The boys live 1986 all trax are live and the sleevenotes are wrong
>
17 trax decent sound quality anyone wanting proper info, catalog nos etc email me direct especially you colesy as the artwork is shite its one of the bands duran duran photo session pics from the "trying to break thre states " phase but the music ic needless to say  dyanmite...attempting to try to burn copies for unfortunates this weekenand and next week
>
 
>
jelbod, your copies first if you want one, i'll swap for anything from last tour
>
 
>
cheers all
>
mark
>
 

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! > Messenger > --0-237443350-1068279958=:50752-- > --0-768724338-1068280032=:4992-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 08:45:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:45:23 +0000 Subject: [kj] pix Message-ID: nice one smiffy!! don't you think ted on http://members.aol.com/ludlowstr/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/pages/lateteam.htm is turning into arthur ellis? (he of the first album gatefold and wee badge) cheers colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 11:25:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fat potanga) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:25:40 +0000 Subject: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player Message-ID: try i-tunes. In fact everybody get i-tunes. Yes, even you mum. It's free and is now available for Windows. It's by far the best mp3 (and many other formats) player and fastest ripper I've used, and is riddled with great features. http://www.apple.com/itunes/ Fat J - on commission? =;¬) ----Original Message Follows---- From: GregSlawson@aol.com Reply-To: gathering@misera.net To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old stuff (Peyr) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:17 EST I can't seem to get the Peyr tracks to play on the computer. Any suggestions? Which program should I use to open it? Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 17:34:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Will E Scheipers) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:34:08 -0800 Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! Message-ID: <20031108.093430.964.2.Wscheip1@juno.com> Too late, kids already saw it. Good thing they're still young. From, Will On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:18:37 EST MotelHell@aol.com writes: > > > "Actually, it looks like your grabbing Kara in an attempt to get > away. Looks > more like Dirk is having his way wiff you...hahaha" > > Jeezum Crowe, you're right! On closer inspection, it DOES look like > I'm > takin' one for the team (or taking one FROM the team, as the case > may be). Fuck! It > looks like one big drunken dry-hump there. Apologies, all. Scoot the > kids > outta the room, this is not safe viewing. > > Alex in NYC > Reply to home e-mail: vassifer@earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 15:01:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 09:01:56 -0600 Subject: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, everyone knows I am an Apple geek...so my opinion is looked at as skewed a bit, but Jamie is right. iTunes is the best fucking thing around. Because of iPod, Apple ported iTunes to Windows, and it really does look an= d feel like the Mac version. Very cool. On 11/8/03 5:25 AM, "fat potanga" wrote: > try i-tunes. > In fact everybody get i-tunes. > Yes, even you mum. >=20 > It's free and is now available for Windows. > It's by far the best mp3 (and many other formats) player and fastest ripp= er > I've used, and is riddled with great features. >=20 > http://www.apple.com/itunes/ >=20 > Fat J - on commission? =3D;=AC) >=20 >=20 >=20 > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: GregSlawson@aol.com > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old stuff (Peyr) > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:17 EST >=20 > I can't seem to get the Peyr tracks to play on the computer. Any > suggestions? > Which program should I use to open it? Thanks. >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >=20 >=20 KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 16:35:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:35:14 +0100 Subject: [kj] Struggle Message-ID: <3FAD2952.23618.2F2DFE0@localhost> Was Struggle ever played live? b From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 16:49:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:49:25 -0000 Subject: [kj] Struggle References: <3FAD2952.23618.2F2DFE0@localhost> Message-ID: <000e01c3a618$4594a020$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Not aware of it Bo, but then again it may have been. Sadly, Slipstream never really got past the soundcheck stage, a version of which was once up on Ana's site and may still be. Kaliyuga was often used as the intro music at that time, although I also remember excellent "Force And Fire" (of Songs >From The Victorious City epic) being used on one tour - was that '90/'91 or maybe later. Anyway, I digress. Never heard either version of Solitude played live, although the early version obviously was. * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Krogsgaard" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 4:35 PM Subject: [kj] Struggle > > Was Struggle ever played live? > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 17:13:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:13:57 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events References: <9b.4043a1b6.2cddf8c3@aol.com> Message-ID: <000901c3a61b$b2e53740$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Yes, so what indeed but if anyone else is interesting in watching today's total lunar eclipse (weather permitting), this link < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3249951.stm > will advise if you have a chance of seeing *it* red ... * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events > SO WHAT !! > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 17:37:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:37:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031108173754.1025.qmail@web86108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1847616765-1068313074=:281 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i use audiocrusher to make mp3s and it seems to be excellent, I also use regular old Windows Media Player to play them. How does iTunes improve on them? and is it free? Jester wrote:Well, everyone knows I am an Apple geek...so my opinion is looked at as skewed a bit, but Jamie is right. iTunes is the best fucking thing around. Because of iPod, Apple ported iTunes to Windows, and it really does look and feel like the Mac version. Very cool. On 11/8/03 5:25 AM, "fat potanga" wrote: > try i-tunes. > In fact everybody get i-tunes. > Yes, even you mum. > > It's free and is now available for Windows. > It's by far the best mp3 (and many other formats) player and fastest ripper > I've used, and is riddled with great features. > > http://www.apple.com/itunes/ > > Fat J - on commission? =;¬) > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: GregSlawson@aol.com > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old stuff (Peyr) > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:17 EST > > I can't seem to get the Peyr tracks to play on the computer. Any > suggestions? > Which program should I use to open it? Thanks. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1847616765-1068313074=:281 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
i use audiocrusher to make mp3s and it seems to be excellent, I also use regular old Windows Media Player to play them.  How does iTunes improve on them?  and is it free?

Jester <webmaster@killing-joke.com> wrote:
Well, everyone knows I am an Apple geek...so my opinion is looked at as
skewed a bit, but Jamie is right. iTunes is the best fucking thing around.
Because of iPod, Apple ported iTunes to Windows, and it really does look and
feel like the Mac version. Very cool.

On 11/8/03 5:25 AM, "fat potanga" wrote:

> try i-tunes.
> In fact everybody get i-tunes.
> Yes, even you mum.
>
> It's free and is now available for Windows.
> It's by far the best mp3 (and many other formats) player and fastest ripper
> I've used, and is riddled with great features.
>
> http://www.apple.com/itunes/
>
> Fat J - on commission? =;¬)
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: GregSlawson@aol.com
> Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
> To: gathering@misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old stuff (Peyr)
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:17 EST
>
> I can't seem to get the Peyr tracks to play on the computer. Any
> suggestions?
> Which program should I use to open it? Thanks.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today!
> http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband
>
> _______________________________________________
> Gathering mailing list
> Gathering@misera.net
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>
>

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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1847616765-1068313074=:281-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 17:51:55 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 11:51:55 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events In-Reply-To: <000901c3a61b$b2e53740$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: So, it's about 7 hours till mid eclipse? Shit. I don=B9t think we have a snow balls chance in hell at viewing it here. Complete and total cloud cover till about Monday or later. Oh well...as so eloquently put, so what. Mystical and scientific things lik= e these items have NO place on a list for Killing Joke fans. We all know that Jaz hates this shit. :rolleyes: On 11/8/03 11:13 AM, "Antoni Adamiak" wrote: > Yes, so what indeed but if anyone else is interesting in watching today's > total lunar eclipse (weather permitting), this link < > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3249951.stm > will advise if you have= a > chance of seeing *it* red ... >=20 > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 7:44 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events >=20 >=20 >> SO WHAT !! >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >=20 >=20 KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 19:05:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:05:20 -0000 Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! References: <7D368CED82B7A44FAB699FBB41CC921207385FF5@i2km02-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net> Message-ID: <005201c3a62b$41da83b0$32a9883e@mycomputer> The profansaurous is brilliant, and on line! The Internet is great init? Anyone unfamiliar with the fine publication of Viz see : http://www.viz.co.uk I did spot a copy of the Viz on the Killing Joke tour bus. From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 20:03:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mik Raven) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:03:12 -0000 Subject: [kj] Struggle References: <3FAD2952.23618.2F2DFE0@localhost> <000e01c3a618$4594a020$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <003201c3a633$57b79da0$0200a8c0@Paulas> > maybe later. Anyway, I digress. Never heard either version of Solitude > played live, although the early version obviously was. just for Antoni then http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Solitude.zip Mik From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 20:04:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mik Raven) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:04:45 -0000 Subject: [kj] Porchester Hall ODIC video on line References: <3FAD2952.23618.2F2DFE0@localhost> <000e01c3a618$4594a020$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <003601c3a633$8e215d40$0200a8c0@Paulas> For your viewing pleasure http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/KillingJoke/Porchester.shtml Mik From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 20:37:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:37:00 -0000 Subject: [kj] Porchester Hall ODIC video on line References: <3FAD2952.23618.2F2DFE0@localhost> <000e01c3a618$4594a020$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> <003601c3a633$8e215d40$0200a8c0@Paulas> Message-ID: <006f01c3a638$10476680$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Hi Mik, The CD sleeve sez 1989 but the date was actually 22nd December 1988 - the day after my birthday ! And also the day after that infamous Pan Am Boeing 747 (flight PA103) was blown out of the sky, for anyone familiar with The Courtauld Talks and how Jaz associated the 103 bpm of the OTG track with the hostile force from the Middle East as per the Geometria system. Yep folks, more mumbo JUMBO (no pun intended) :o) I had no idea that a full length vid of this existed - fantastic news ... I must have a copy. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mik Raven" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:04 PM Subject: [kj] Porchester Hall ODIC video on line > For your viewing pleasure > > http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/KillingJoke/Porchester.shtml > > Mik > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 20:47:44 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob Cannell) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:47:44 -0000 Subject: [kj] Porchester Hall ODIC video on line References: <3FAD2952.23618.2F2DFE0@localhost> <000e01c3a618$4594a020$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> <003601c3a633$8e215d40$0200a8c0@Paulas> Message-ID: <004501c3a639$8fc67300$ee296851@y4e3r4> Cheers Mik. Yeah, weird that it starts on the last track. I seem to recall they opened up with Extremeties though. Didn't Jaz say they would get it right the 2nd time? (My memorys fading - probably something to do with vast amounts of alcohol we all drunk that night). Anyway, a fantastic gig. Many thanks, the order will be in soon for the VCD. Have you got any of the post-gig stuff, as I remember the backstage chats being filmed. This also brings back memorys of a few of us being roadies for the night (because the hired help had fucked off after the show - and we'd missed the train by then too). We've been waiting over 15 years now for those t-shirts Jaz said he'd give us for helping out!! (?) Rob From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 20:50:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:50:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Porchester Hall ODIC video on line In-Reply-To: <003601c3a633$8e215d40$0200a8c0@Paulas> Message-ID: <20031108205043.72863.qmail@web86105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1144370304-1068324643=:71898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pleasure indeed, Just watched 'Pandys', I'm speechless (luckily the old fingers are still working). 2003 hasn't been quite the year I had hoped it would be, Killing Joke-wise. This reminds me why they'll always be my favourite band. Thanks man Richie Mik Raven wrote: For your viewing pleasure http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/KillingJoke/Porchester.shtml Mik _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1144370304-1068324643=:71898 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Pleasure indeed,
 
Just watched 'Pandys', I'm speechless (luckily the old fingers are still working). 
 
2003 hasn't been quite the year I had hoped it would be, Killing Joke-wise.  This reminds me why they'll always be my favourite band.
 
Thanks man
 
Richie

Mik Raven <mik.raven@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
For your viewing pleasure

http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/KillingJoke/Porchester.shtml

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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1144370304-1068324643=:71898-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 21:14:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (ade) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:14:10 -0000 Subject: [kj] Struggle In-Reply-To: <000e01c3a618$4594a020$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <001401c3a63d$40a1d770$0200a8c0@thelab.local> I still have a copy of that version of Solitude here: http://www.mr-pants.no-ip.info/audio/KillingJoke/Live/1988-12-17.Sheffield.L eadmill ade. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Antoni Adamiak Sent: 08 November 2003 16:49 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Struggle Not aware of it Bo, but then again it may have been. Sadly, Slipstream never really got past the soundcheck stage, a version of which was once up on Ana's site and may still be. Kaliyuga was often used as the intro music at that time, although I also remember excellent "Force And Fire" (of Songs >From The Victorious City epic) being used on one tour - was that '90/'91 or maybe later. Anyway, I digress. Never heard either version of Solitude played live, although the early version obviously was. * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Krogsgaard" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 4:35 PM Subject: [kj] Struggle > > Was Struggle ever played live? > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 21:25:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:25:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Struggle In-Reply-To: <001401c3a63d$40a1d770$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <20031108212556.82943.qmail@web86101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-2057458121-1068326756=:82728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is that Mr Pants in the 'encouraging nibble' sense? ade wrote:I still have a copy of that version of Solitude here: http://www.mr-pants.no-ip.info/audio/KillingJoke/Live/1988-12-17.Sheffield.L eadmill ade. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Antoni Adamiak Sent: 08 November 2003 16:49 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Struggle Not aware of it Bo, but then again it may have been. Sadly, Slipstream never really got past the soundcheck stage, a version of which was once up on Ana's site and may still be. Kaliyuga was often used as the intro music at that time, although I also remember excellent "Force And Fire" (of Songs >From The Victorious City epic) being used on one tour - was that '90/'91 or maybe later. Anyway, I digress. Never heard either version of Solitude played live, although the early version obviously was. * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Krogsgaard" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 4:35 PM Subject: [kj] Struggle > > Was Struggle ever played live? > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-2057458121-1068326756=:82728 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Is that Mr Pants in the 'encouraging nibble' sense?

ade <ade@the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
I still have a copy of that version of Solitude here:

http://www.mr-pants.no-ip.info/audio/KillingJoke/Live/1988-12-17.Sheffield.L
eadmill

ade.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Antoni Adamiak
Sent: 08 November 2003 16:49
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Struggle


Not aware of it Bo, but then again it may have been. Sadly, Slipstream never
really got past the soundcheck stage, a version of which was once up on
Ana's site and may still be. Kaliyuga was often used as the intro music at
that time, although I also remember excellent "Force And Fire" (of Songs
From The Victorious City epic) being used on one tour - was that '90/'91 or
maybe later. Anyway, I digress. Never heard either version of Solitude
played live, although the early version obviously was.

* http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *

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To:
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 4:35 PM
Subject: [kj] Struggle


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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-2057458121-1068326756=:82728-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 22:10:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 14:10:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Diary of a virgin on tour: Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis In-Reply-To: <006f01c3a638$10476680$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <20031108221036.35853.qmail@web80501.mail.yahoo.com> First let me apologize for the unforgivable length and late timing of this post. I just returned from a week on the road visiting my sister and others in Minneapolis and Iowa, I’ve got a bulging disc in my back that made it hell to log 30 hours of driving (much less dance at KJ gigs), but I’m still coming down from the high of the first three KJ concerts in my life. So I’m just writing down what I remember and passing it on for whoever wants to skim a very long and possibly tedious read. Alas, reading similar stuff is why I'm on this list, anyway!! :P First, of note: ***Seen a few posts on this but haven’t been able to read all 270 Gathering posts…Milwaukee was supremely disappointing, but mostly due to Jaz – the band was SPOT.ON. Very tight. I still had a blast, but am definitely glad it wasn’t my only show. After they left abruptly without an encore, the short roadie with the long-ponytail and receding hairline said “Show’s over, folks…too much partying beforehand” – apparently blaming Jaz’s drunkenness for the abrupt end. Though it could have also been his voice…maybe he was saving it for the big(ger) Minneapolis show. ***I’ve uploaded a few crappy-quality photos of the Minneapolis gig to the Yahoo group http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/kj-list/ My camera has too much of a delay on it for me to count on decent shots at the precise moment when the lighting is good, so I just had to guess a few seconds ahead of when I thought the white-heat lamps would shine on the Joke. (I didn’t use a flash, because the flash on my camera’s pretty obnoxiously bright, and I didn't want to piss off anyone after carrying the camera in under my unmentionables). The “best” of mixed results are in the Yahoo group photos folder under “Minneapolis.” Only thing of note on the photos was Raven without his sock-hat (heh heh), which he tossed just a few songs into the show. ***I also have a video of Seeing Red performed in Minneapolis, but a) it’s 8MB, b)the sound isn’t anything you’d play, say, on your stereo (this was from my digital still-photo-camera, and I’m a total novice), c) the images aren’t fantastic, as I learned too late that my camera’s zoom function doesn’t work for video. But it's kind of fun to watch once or twice. I have no Web space, but if anyone’s interested I could upload it or even e-mail it to someone with the tech expertise I clearly lack. I have a now even-greater respect for all of you who record gigs. It's so hard to concentrate on that when you want to hear/see the brilliant show. I was hoping to do my part to contribute by recording a new song live, but to obviously mixed results on my first try. Now on to the shows, if you care for painfully detailed ramblings: CHICAGO My fiancé Lisa and I met Lexi, Mark and Lexi’s better half Kyle in the Raw Bar next door to the venue in Chicago. It was great to meet you guys – made me glad I didn’t spend the whole pre-show evening lying down in my hotel room trying to straighten out my back. Interestingly enough, someone had placed a copy of “The Incomplete Collection” behind the bar at the Raw Bar – I noted to Lisa that yes, that’s the same collection I saw an autographed copy of in a San Francisco record store four years ago and neglected to buy because we were completely broke at the time. She kindly reminded me what an idiot I was. Thanks, honey, twist that knife! Kyle was VERY talkative (“he’s never this way unless he’s excited,” Lexi said), which was probably good, because I was overcome with anticipation and as talkative as a brick wall. Before and after the show, I met a few lurkers on the Gathering (whose e-mail names I now forget…sorry, it’s been a long week), as a few saw my t-shirt (I was wearing the old Gathering t-shirt that Exorcist was wearing in the NYC pictures) and asked me if I was a member. It was funny, reminded me of the guy (sorry, I forget whom) who said he stopped asking people at an eastern U.S. show if they were on the Gathering after the fifth consecutive person gave him a puzzled look. Anyway, while Lexi’s man Kyle picked up several records, including the “Me or You” single and “Outside the Gate” in the record store next door, we debated how to arrive just in time to miss Amen but get good spots. I cannot emphasize enough how incredible this was. THIS WAS MY FIRST KJ SHOW EVER. After foolishly missing them in ’94 (they’re back, they’ll tour again…right? is what I thought back then. Idiot.), I wasn’t going to miss this chance. After Lexi thought she saw Atkins (perhaps in disguise to save his bacon from Raven), we got upstairs at the Metro to find Amen overstaying their welcome as the legion of Killing Joke fans, scattered in the back like hungry lions waiting out their show, giving Amen a hard time. “GET OFF THE FUCKING STAGE!” and so-on. Amen finally left, we grabbed our spots at the front near Raven, and I proceeded to not think about my bulging disc and my over-filled bladder. Because of medication I’m taking for my back, I went easy on the alcohol, even drinking light beer (as if it would help), but I still had to piss like hell as we waited for the Joke to appear. Couldn't bare to risk Lisa's spot (she's fairly short) to go to the toilets at my first KJ show. The bladder-busting WAIT was worth it. Faith Healer came on and like Pavlov’s dog I started salivating. Nick Walker and Ted (in red Malicious Damage clock shirt) appeared on stage first, and hilariously, few in the crowd seemed to realize this was the band (not sound guys) appearing. When Raven and Geordie walked on, the applause from a pretty full house erupted. You all know from the shows and/or live recordings how it went from here…Communion keyboards, then Ted & Raven kick into the first beats and tones of the song, meanwhile Jaz does his angel of darkness walk onto the stage, under hood: “See patterns in the winds and in the sand…” After being a fanatic for (a young, humble) 13 years or so, it was so DAMN ENJOYABLE to see the Joke finally perform live for the first time. I couldn’t believe how quick their transition between songs was, the way they seamlessly jumped from the orgasmic end of one song to the enticing foreplay of the next: it was such frenetic excitement for me after these years of waiting. My back was killing me all day, but by a few songs into the show I noticed the adrenaline (or drugs and alcohol) had kicked in enough that I was able to dance without feeling pain…I was ready to take the suffering tomorrow for the ecstasy of tonight. So much I’ve heard about I finally witnessed in person: Geordie as amazingly calm and magi-like as advertised; Jaz’s theatrics and berating of the audience “the 2004 election has already been decided. You’re all voting Republican, whether you like it or not, hahahAHAHAHA…WARDANCE!!”, and Raven’s cool bass while also hamming it up with the audience of friends and fans alike. Nick was flawless, and Ted was a monster on drums. His only mistake was coming in with the first drum-pounding in “The Wait” when he should have waited for the pause after Geordie’s intro. Geordie threw his arms up in mild disgust, but as has been mentioned in some of the messages I’ve skimmed since I left, the sound was really screwed up at the Metro, so this was the least of anyone’s worries. Apparently the Metro had the former lead singer of the Spin Doctors (looking for work, are we?) or a reasonable lookalike working sound, and despite Jaz, Geordie, and Raven at separate times each looking back at him in horror, there was apparently nothing he knew how to do to fix the feedback. Ah well, he sucked with the Spin Doctors, too. The feedback was a low droning that really ruined some of the songs from the new album (including Blood/Hands), but it was even in effect when Raven wasn’t touching his bass. Geordies’ solo jam 2/3 through Blood/Hands (just before Raven joins him) was even sabotaged by the droning bass-ish feedback. Nonetheless it was a blast, and they somewhat overcame the sound problems, or made-do at least, in the final third of the show. My lady Lisa didn’t get her favorite (You’ll Never Get To Me, ha hahaha) nor Empire Song, which was in her head all day, but she had a blast, and her indoctrination to the Joke was complete. She (and lucky me) even got an errant spray of Raven’s spit as he tried to hack loogies on various offending people in the crowd (for reasons I couldn’t determine, but there were some interesting birds in the audience). I know these songs were played, but not certain of the order in the middle third: CHICAGO Communion Requiem Total Invasion Wardance Blood/Hands (Jaz appeared to forget the words for a while here, put his hand on his head, then promptly repeated the “G.M. crops grow” line in the middle of the “Diana/conspiracy” verse) Change Seeing Red Kings & Queens (Jaz got all nostalgic at the things KJ has gone through “over these 25 years” before this one) Fall of Because (“When we as children must learn to unlearn the rubbish” Jaz said) The Wait Death/Resurrection (“Why does the rest of the world hate us so?” Jaz asked in a thickly sarcastic voice) Whiteout (“We do drugs and get drunk to wash away reality, because reality sucks…this is called WHITEOUT!”) Pssyche (Raven joined in the singing in this one, including piping in “Chicago’s got you suss’d!”) Frenzy (oooooh, the beautiful hum from Geordie’s guitar. Because of sound issues, I didn’t get to hear and appreciate him as much as I wanted to, but it’s hard not to notice him on this song) Encore: Asteroid and Pandemonium (“The U.K. and U.S. are the most hated nations in the world,” and so on, Jaz said before Pandy. I couldn’t hear everything he said all night, but it of course was along this line). MILWAUKEE Milwaukee was funny. A very shitty venue (The Rave) with obnoxious staff and INCREDIBLY overpriced Miller-products beer, on a very rainy Sunday night when the local obsession, the (American) football team, the Green Bay Packers, were playing a Sunday night game. So few locals were going to fight the torrential rain on a Sunday night, ignore the Packers, and come see the Joke. There were about 12 teenage boys at the front of the stage to see Amen, and then the “crowd” swelled to about 100 people for the Joke. It didn’t help that the space behind the crowd was cavernously empty. Jaz’s voice was in bad shape again, but it would have helped had he actually held the microphone to his mouth during most of the show. The system didn’t pick up his vocals half the time because he was holding the mic down by his sternum. Add to this that Jaz appeared drunk off his ass, and we basically saw an excellent band play behind a rambling, mumbling homeless person in a Halloween costume. Raven, Geordie, Ted and Nick were tight, playing a flawless, energetic set (or as energetic as a comatose frontman would allow), but Jaz was a virtual no-show. These were loyal fans who showed up on this night – including Chicagoans who weren’t able to see the show the night before – and I know many of them left with a severely diminished opinion of the Joke, thanks to Jaz’s drivel and the abrupt end to the show/lack of encore. Curiously, Jaz paused several times in between songs and pretended that the band was “deciding which songs to play based on the atmosphere” – an apparent rip on the small crowd and lack of energy. However, the only change they made to the set was omitting Seeing Red and canceling the encore. Perhaps they skipped Seeing Red and never intended to play D&RS because those songs are particularly hard on Jaz’s voice. Whatever the case, the appearance of “picking songs based on the atmosphere” was a charade, as they otherwise stuck to the setlist (which I got a copy of). Jaz again forgot even more lines to “Invasion” and “Blood” and appeared to be thinking of them while the band took the in-between-verses stanzas on longer and longer, waiting for Jaz to kick in to sing the lyrics he couldn’t remember into the microphone he couldn’t hold up. Yeah, I’d say the man may have been a stack of sheets to the wind. I did meet Raven briefly before the show, as the Milwaukee woman I met up with before the show ambushed him and gave him CDs to give to Jaz -- one of a Yugoslavian group that was supposedly similar to Can. I just told Raven they played an awesome show the night before, and he said “Yeah, we had some fun, didn’t we?” It was cool to meet him; he was as nice and welcoming as advertised, despite being attacked in mid-conversation by my companion. “Thanks! Ah, the gift of music, that’s great!” he said with enthusiasm. I was right up front by Raven for the show. It was great to be that close and just watch he and Geordie’s seemingly effortless work. I got the balls to smuggle my camera in, but then when the Chicagoan next to me was told to leave or take his camera back to his car, I decided against using it. As I said, the staff was obnoxious, and the crowd was small, so the camera would’ve been easily spotted. Anyway, the abbreviated setlist: Like I said, what was played was played flawlessly, except for Jaz. And as a final note on the woman who posted to the NME board, it was not a long wait for the Joke to come on. It was less of a wait than in Chicago, and gee, just about the amount of time it takes to set up the headliner’s equipment after the opening band quits. I suppose she was overcome by her disappointment. But the sound was also much better than in Chicago. I can’t stress enough that the band was damn good, Jaz wasn’t. I don’t really remember what else Jaz mumbled during the set, though at one point he commented on the small crowd with “this is like a special occasion for you” – only it seemed pretty sarcastic, as he didn’t appear in the mood to give us anything special. The Milwaukee setlist (both intended and actually played): Communion Requiem Total Invasion Wardance Blood/Hands Change [Seeing Red skipped] Fall of Because Kings & Queens Wait Whiteout Pssyche [encore of Asteroid and Pandemonium cancelled…they just quietly left the stage after Pssyche] Next, a five-hour drive over crippling back pain to Minneapolis (sorry for the travel details, Dub :P), by far the best show of my three nights. MINNEAPOLIS The Fine Line is an interesting, small but tidy venue with a balcony that cuts diagonally over the back of the main area. Reserved seats went to people at tables at the front of the balcony. What was best about this show (aside from the great energy and long set that the Joke provided) was that there was no four-foot barricade buffer in between the crowd and the stage. We were right there, and the stage was just maybe 3 feet off the floor. I convinced two of my friends to go to this show (my fiancé headed home to resume teaching children to become “the rules we’ve taught them” after the Chicago show), and they were NOT disappointed. Since they only knew a few Killing Joke songs, I didn’t force them to stand in the first row; we stayed back a “safe” 2 or 3 rows back. The show wasn’t body-to-body packed, but it was well-attended. Some young’uns even moshed during Seeing Red, Blood, and some of the oldies. All five members were clearly into this show. The sound was excellent, it was intimate, they were smiling, Jaz was raving, the fans were singing, I probably got a wink from Raven while he was singing along to one of the songs (or maybe I’m just obsessed fanboy – my point is that there was a lot of interaction with the audience). A few guys in the first row were bowing in homage repeatedly to Geordie as he unleashed some of his trademark chords. Jaz spent a lot of time watching – and directing the audience to appreciate – the incredible tunes and TIGHT TIMING that Geordie and Raven were putting on. Jaz said “weve thrown in some extra songs, not because we love you but because Raven says he’s some sort of queen here…” Humorously, after Ted (who was great on all nights) jumped in too early on both the Chicago and Milwaukee renditions of The Wait, he learned his lesson and waited patiently, then jumped in with the drum pattern on EMPIRE SONG. Apparently, they inserted Empire Song where they normally play the Wait (Raven even got his “Wait” bass guitar before the song), and Ted didn’t get the memo. So after Ted jumped in, Geordie looked back in the “what the fuck” expression, Raven burst out laughing, and Jaz said (kindly) “That’s right Ted, Empire Song, that’s what I said.” Then (to the crowd): “Stop laughing, it can happen to anyone!” It was a light moment, and Ted put his head in his hand for a few embarrassed moments, but I cannot say enough how he shouldn’t feel bad, as he was FLAWLESS on drums (when he knew what song was next, hee hee). Raven consoled him with some good ribbing, and then the beautiful hum of Empire Song kicked back in. After Empire, they indeed played The Wait, and Ted was perfect, heh. There were other funny moments: -Before “Pssyche,” Jaz said this was “the first song we ever wrote” to which Geordie replied, “who wrote it??? WHO wrote it??” forcing Jaz to admit that it was Geordie’s riff and idea. -Before Empire song (I think, one of the earlier songs anyway), Jaz talked about “this is just a night out for you all, but it’s a ritual, a celebration we’ve been doing for 25 years…well him and him [pointing to Geordie and Raven] anyway…Nick here is just a dancer boy over there.” -Before Pandemonium, Nick had the opening tone going on the keyboard, and Geordie was pointing to him that it was the wrong pitch – it needed to be a little higher. Jaz said, “what, what do you know?” to Geordie, and Geordie grabbed his nipples to make fun of Nick again. Sure enough, Nick tweaked the tone ever so slightly and landed on the right pitch. Again, it was a laugh-by-all moment. But Jaz went into his speechifying at the intro to Pandemonium, then cued Nick to hit the dramatic string chords after each proclamation…only Nick wasn’t watching Jaz’s hand gestures. (Oh dear, how dare someone tune Jaz out during his speeches? haha) Again, I know they played the following songs, but the order may be messed up in the middle third: Communion Requiem Total Invasion Wardance Blood/Hands Change Seeing Red Fall of Because Empire Song The Wait Death/Resurrection Asteroid Whiteout Frenzy (Jaz dedicated this to “Ben, an ill friend of Killing Joke who wants us to be there when he dies”…he had explained that the song was partly about the moments before you die, when you know you’re going to die, when details become clearer and plentiful and everything is focus, but you’re running out of time, or something to that effect). Pssyche Encore: Loose Cannon/Pandemonium During several songs, including Whiteout, Geordie was having trouble with his top two strings, so he had to basically retune them (thumbing them far off the fret-board in displeasure) in the middle of a few songs. During Whiteout, we listened to Nick’s keyboard sample loop several times in the middle of the song while the band waited for Geordie to get his harp back in order. I can’t say it detracted from the set, though. It was great to see them work on their feet, and they were just in top-form, playing-wise, on this night. Loose Cannon played worse live (this time) than on the album. I enjoy the live recording of it at Manchester, but this one was odd, just too plodding and slow-paced for the energetic set we had just witnessed. For it to be the first encore was anticlimactic, to be sure. But Pandemonium was pretty good (it was better in Chicago). Jaz preceded it by holding up two fingers in the “peace” symbol, and asked “What’s this?…NO, it’s the twin towers, hahahahahahaha! Because September 11 was an American Dream for some…why? Why? Because you all have lost your courage…you won’t speak up anymore…don’t be shy, have courage, don’t be shy!” Etc. The two friends I brought absolutely loved their introduction to the joke. "Geordie's so calm, he looks like he's playing for Sting" said one, "he kind of looks like a porn star," said another. "Is Jaz mentally fit, do you think?" asked the first friend. Because one had to work in the morning and the other will be drug-tested on his next few med-school rotations, I didn’t force them to try to go back stage, though I’m sure we would have been welcome, as I was carrying a helluva powerful joint. (During the set, Jaz had basically instructed “anyone with drugs” to see the roadies after the show). Maybe there will be another time to smoke with the band. Or maybe there won’t. I don’t care, I had an awesome fucking time seeing three damn good shows. Even with Milwaukee’s Jaz-fart and Chicago’s sound issues, it was Killing Joke live. As I finally confirmed for myself in person, nothing else compares. Good God, I’ve just written a lot. Sorry. If you’ve made it this far, you’re as sadistically, fanatically completist as I am, I suppose. Cheers, Dominik / “Jiri” From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 22:48:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:48:36 -0500 Subject: [kj] Diary of a virgin on tour: Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis Message-ID: <200311082248.hA8MmTcw002340@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Jeezy Creezy....that review made me seem fuckin' tongue-tied. Well done, Jiri!!! Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Jiri >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] Diary of a virgin on tour: Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis >Date: Sat, Nov 8, 2003, 5:10 PM > >First let me apologize for the unforgivable length and >late timing of this post. I just returned from a week >on the road visiting my sister and others in >Minneapolis and Iowa, I=EDve got a bulging disc in my >back that made it hell to log 30 hours of driving >(much less dance at KJ gigs), but I=EDm still coming >down from the high of the first three KJ concerts in >my life. So I=EDm just writing down what I remember and >passing it on for whoever wants to skim a very long >and possibly tedious read. Alas, reading similar stuff >is why I'm on this list, anyway!! :P > >First, of note: >***Seen a few posts on this but haven=EDt been able to >read all 270 Gathering posts=D6Milwaukee was supremely >disappointing, but mostly due to Jaz =F1 the band was >SPOT.ON. Very tight. I still had a blast, but am >definitely glad it wasn=EDt my only show. After they >left abruptly without an encore, the short roadie with >the long-ponytail and receding hairline said =ECShow=EDs >over, folks=D6too much partying beforehand=EE =F1 apparently >blaming Jaz=EDs drunkenness for the abrupt end. Though >it could have also been his voice=D6maybe he was saving >it for the big(ger) Minneapolis show. >***I=EDve uploaded a few crappy-quality photos of the >Minneapolis gig to the Yahoo group >http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/kj-list/ My camera >has too much of a delay on it for me to count on >decent shots at the precise moment when the lighting >is good, so I just had to guess a few seconds ahead of >when I thought the white-heat lamps would shine on the >Joke. (I didn=EDt use a flash, because the flash on my >camera=EDs pretty obnoxiously bright, and I didn't want >to piss off anyone after carrying the camera in under >my unmentionables). The =ECbest=EE of mixed results are in >the Yahoo group photos folder under =ECMinneapolis.=EE >Only thing of note on the photos was Raven without his >sock-hat (heh heh), which he tossed just a few songs >into the show. >***I also have a video of Seeing Red performed in >Minneapolis, but a) it=EDs 8MB, b)the sound isn=EDt >anything you=EDd play, say, on your stereo (this was >from my digital still-photo-camera, and I=EDm a total >novice), c) the images aren=EDt fantastic, as I learned >too late that my camera=EDs zoom function doesn=EDt work >for video. But it's kind of fun to watch once or >twice. I have no Web space, but if anyone=EDs interested >I could upload it or even e-mail it to someone with >the tech expertise I clearly lack. I have a now >even-greater respect for all of you who record gigs. >It's so hard to concentrate on that when you want to >hear/see the brilliant show. I was hoping to do my >part to contribute by recording a new song live, but >to obviously mixed results on my first try. > >Now on to the shows, if you care for painfully >detailed ramblings: >CHICAGO >My fianc=C8 Lisa and I met Lexi, Mark and Lexi=EDs better >half Kyle in the Raw Bar next door to the venue in >Chicago. It was great to meet you guys =F1 made me glad >I didn=EDt spend the whole pre-show evening lying down >in my hotel room trying to straighten out my back. >Interestingly enough, someone had placed a copy of >=ECThe Incomplete Collection=EE behind the bar at the Raw >Bar =F1 I noted to Lisa that yes, that=EDs the same >collection I saw an autographed copy of in a San >Francisco record store four years ago and neglected to >buy because we were completely broke at the time. She >kindly reminded me what an idiot I was. Thanks, honey, >twist that knife! Kyle was VERY talkative (=EChe=EDs never >this way unless he=EDs excited,=EE Lexi said), which was >probably good, because I was overcome with >anticipation and as talkative as a brick wall. > >Before and after the show, I met a few lurkers on the >Gathering (whose e-mail names I now forget=D6sorry, it=EDs >been a long week), as a few saw my t-shirt (I was >wearing the old Gathering t-shirt that Exorcist was >wearing in the NYC pictures) and asked me if I was a >member. It was funny, reminded me of the guy (sorry, I >forget whom) who said he stopped asking people at an >eastern U.S. show if they were on the Gathering after >the fifth consecutive person gave him a puzzled look. > >Anyway, while Lexi=EDs man Kyle picked up several >records, including the =ECMe or You=EE single and =ECOutside >the Gate=EE in the record store next door, we debated >how to arrive just in time to miss Amen but get good >spots. I cannot emphasize enough how incredible this >was. THIS WAS MY FIRST KJ SHOW EVER. After foolishly >missing them in =ED94 (they=EDre back, they=EDll tour >again=D6right? is what I thought back then. Idiot.), I >wasn=EDt going to miss this chance. > >After Lexi thought she saw Atkins (perhaps in disguise >to save his bacon from Raven), we got upstairs at the >Metro to find Amen overstaying their welcome as the >legion of Killing Joke fans, scattered in the back >like hungry lions waiting out their show, giving Amen >a hard time. =ECGET OFF THE FUCKING STAGE!=EE and so-on. >Amen finally left, we grabbed our spots at the front >near Raven, and I proceeded to not think about my >bulging disc and my over-filled bladder. Because of >medication I=EDm taking for my back, I went easy on the >alcohol, even drinking light beer (as if it would >help), but I still had to piss like hell as we waited >for the Joke to appear. Couldn't bare to risk Lisa's >spot (she's fairly short) to go to the toilets at my >first KJ show. > >The bladder-busting WAIT was worth it. Faith Healer >came on and like Pavlov=EDs dog I started salivating. >Nick Walker and Ted (in red Malicious Damage clock >shirt) appeared on stage first, and hilariously, few >in the crowd seemed to realize this was the band (not >sound guys) appearing. When Raven and Geordie walked >on, the applause from a pretty full house erupted. You >all know from the shows and/or live recordings how it >went from here=D6Communion keyboards, then Ted & Raven >kick into the first beats and tones of the song, >meanwhile Jaz does his angel of darkness walk onto the >stage, under hood: =ECSee patterns in the winds and in >the sand=D6=EE > >After being a fanatic for (a young, humble) 13 years >or so, it was so DAMN ENJOYABLE to see the Joke >finally perform live for the first time. I couldn=EDt >believe how quick their transition between songs was, >the way they seamlessly jumped from the orgasmic end >of one song to the enticing foreplay of the next: it >was such frenetic excitement for me after these years >of waiting. My back was killing me all day, but by a >few songs into the show I noticed the adrenaline (or >drugs and alcohol) had kicked in enough that I was >able to dance without feeling pain=D6I was ready to take >the suffering tomorrow for the ecstasy of tonight. So >much I=EDve heard about I finally witnessed in person: >Geordie as amazingly calm and magi-like as advertised; >Jaz=EDs theatrics and berating of the audience =ECthe 2004 >election has already been decided. You=EDre all voting >Republican, whether you like it or not, >hahahAHAHAHA=D6WARDANCE!!=EE, and Raven=EDs cool bass while >also hamming it up with the audience of friends and >fans alike. Nick was flawless, and Ted was a monster >on drums. His only mistake was coming in with the >first drum-pounding in =ECThe Wait=EE when he should have >waited for the pause after Geordie=EDs intro. Geordie >threw his arms up in mild disgust, but as has been >mentioned in some of the messages I=EDve skimmed since I >left, the sound was really screwed up at the Metro, so >this was the least of anyone=EDs worries. > >Apparently the Metro had the former lead singer of the >Spin Doctors (looking for work, are we?) or a >reasonable lookalike working sound, and despite Jaz, >Geordie, and Raven at separate times each looking >back at him in horror, there was apparently nothing he >knew how to do to fix the feedback. Ah well, he sucked >with the Spin Doctors, too. The feedback was a low >droning that really ruined some of the songs from the >new album (including Blood/Hands), but it was even in >effect when Raven wasn=EDt touching his bass. Geordies=ED >solo jam 2/3 through Blood/Hands (just before Raven >joins him) was even sabotaged by the droning bass-ish >feedback. Nonetheless it was a blast, and they >somewhat overcame the sound problems, or made-do at >least, in the final third of the show. My lady Lisa >didn=EDt get her favorite (You=EDll Never Get To Me, ha >hahaha) nor Empire Song, which was in her head all >day, but she had a blast, and her indoctrination to >the Joke was complete. She (and lucky me) even got an >errant spray of Raven=EDs spit as he tried to hack >loogies on various offending people in the crowd (for >reasons I couldn=EDt determine, but there were some >interesting birds in the audience). > >I know these songs were played, but not certain of the >order in the middle third: > >CHICAGO >Communion >Requiem >Total Invasion >Wardance >Blood/Hands (Jaz appeared to forget the words for a >while here, put his hand on his head, then promptly >repeated the =ECG.M. crops grow=EE line in the middle of >the =ECDiana/conspiracy=EE verse) >Change >Seeing Red >Kings & Queens (Jaz got all nostalgic at the things KJ >has gone through =ECover these 25 years=EE before this >one) >Fall of Because (=ECWhen we as children must learn to >unlearn the rubbish=EE Jaz said) >The Wait >Death/Resurrection (=ECWhy does the rest of the world >hate us so?=EE Jaz asked in a thickly sarcastic voice) >Whiteout (=ECWe do drugs and get drunk to wash away >reality, because reality sucks=D6this is called >WHITEOUT!=EE) >Pssyche (Raven joined in the singing in this one, >including piping in =ECChicago=EDs got you suss=EDd!=EE) >Frenzy (oooooh, the beautiful hum from Geordie=EDs >guitar. Because of sound issues, I didn=EDt get to hear >and appreciate him as much as I wanted to, but it=EDs >hard not to notice him on this song) >Encore: Asteroid and Pandemonium (=ECThe U.K. and U.S. >are the most hated nations in the world,=EE and so on, >Jaz said before Pandy. I couldn=EDt hear everything he >said all night, but it of course was along this line). > > >MILWAUKEE >Milwaukee was funny. A very shitty venue (The Rave) >with obnoxious staff and INCREDIBLY overpriced >Miller-products beer, on a very rainy Sunday night >when the local obsession, the (American) football >team, the Green Bay Packers, were playing a Sunday >night game. So few locals were going to fight the >torrential rain on a Sunday night, ignore the Packers, >and come see the Joke. There were about 12 teenage >boys at the front of the stage to see Amen, and then >the =ECcrowd=EE swelled to about 100 people for the Joke. >It didn=EDt help that the space behind the crowd was >cavernously empty. Jaz=EDs voice was in bad shape again, >but it would have helped had he actually held the >microphone to his mouth during most of the show. The >system didn=EDt pick up his vocals half the time because >he was holding the mic down by his sternum. > >Add to this that Jaz appeared drunk off his ass, and >we basically saw an excellent band play behind a >rambling, mumbling homeless person in a Halloween >costume. Raven, Geordie, Ted and Nick were tight, >playing a flawless, energetic set (or as energetic as >a comatose frontman would allow), but Jaz was a >virtual no-show. These were loyal fans who showed up >on this night =F1 including Chicagoans who weren=EDt able >to see the show the night before =F1 and I know many of >them left with a severely diminished opinion of the >Joke, thanks to Jaz=EDs drivel and the abrupt end to the >show/lack of encore. > >Curiously, Jaz paused several times in between songs >and pretended that the band was =ECdeciding which songs >to play based on the atmosphere=EE =F1 an apparent rip on >the small crowd and lack of energy. However, the only >change they made to the set was omitting Seeing Red >and canceling the encore. Perhaps they skipped Seeing >Red and never intended to play D&RS because those >songs are particularly hard on Jaz=EDs voice. Whatever >the case, the appearance of =ECpicking songs based on >the atmosphere=EE was a charade, as they otherwise stuck >to the setlist (which I got a copy of). Jaz again >forgot even more lines to =ECInvasion=EE and =ECBlood=EE and >appeared to be thinking of them while the band took >the in-between-verses stanzas on longer and longer, >waiting for Jaz to kick in to sing the lyrics he >couldn=EDt remember into the microphone he couldn=EDt hold >up. Yeah, I=EDd say the man may have been a stack of >sheets to the wind. > >I did meet Raven briefly before the show, as the >Milwaukee woman I met up with before the show ambushed >him and gave him CDs to give to Jaz -- one of a >Yugoslavian group that was supposedly similar to Can. >I just told Raven they played an awesome show the >night before, and he said =ECYeah, we had some fun, >didn=EDt we?=EE It was cool to meet him; he was as nice >and welcoming as advertised, despite being attacked in >mid-conversation by my companion. =ECThanks! Ah, the >gift of music, that=EDs great!=EE he said with enthusiasm. > >I was right up front by Raven for the show. It was >great to be that close and just watch he and Geordie=EDs >seemingly effortless work. I got the balls to smuggle >my camera in, but then when the Chicagoan next to me >was told to leave or take his camera back to his car, >I decided against using it. As I said, the staff was >obnoxious, and the crowd was small, so the camera >would=EDve been easily spotted. > >Anyway, the abbreviated setlist: Like I said, what was >played was played flawlessly, except for Jaz. And as a >final note on the woman who posted to the NME board, >it was not a long wait for the Joke to come on. It was >less of a wait than in Chicago, and gee, just about >the amount of time it takes to set up the headliner=EDs >equipment after the opening band quits. I suppose she >was overcome by her disappointment. But the sound was >also much better than in Chicago. I can=EDt stress >enough that the band was damn good, Jaz wasn=EDt. I >don=EDt really remember what else Jaz mumbled during the >set, though at one point he commented on the small >crowd with =ECthis is like a special occasion for you=EE =F1 >only it seemed pretty sarcastic, as he didn=EDt appear >in the mood to give us anything special. > >The Milwaukee setlist (both intended and actually >played): >Communion >Requiem >Total Invasion >Wardance >Blood/Hands >Change >[Seeing Red skipped] >Fall of Because >Kings & Queens >Wait >Whiteout >Pssyche >[encore of Asteroid and Pandemonium cancelled=D6they >just quietly left the stage after Pssyche] > > >Next, a five-hour drive over crippling back pain to >Minneapolis (sorry for the travel details, Dub :P), by >far the best show of my three nights. > >MINNEAPOLIS >The Fine Line is an interesting, small but tidy venue >with a balcony that cuts diagonally over the back of >the main area. Reserved seats went to people at tables >at the front of the balcony. What was best about this >show (aside from the great energy and long set that >the Joke provided) was that there was no four-foot >barricade buffer in between the crowd and the stage. >We were right there, and the stage was just maybe 3 >feet off the floor. > >I convinced two of my friends to go to this show (my >fianc=C8 headed home to resume teaching children to >become =ECthe rules we=EDve taught them=EE after the Chicago >show), and they were NOT disappointed. Since they only >knew a few Killing Joke songs, I didn=EDt force them to >stand in the first row; we stayed back a =ECsafe=EE 2 or 3 >rows back. The show wasn=EDt body-to-body packed, but it >was well-attended. Some young=EDuns even moshed during >Seeing Red, Blood, and some of the oldies. > >All five members were clearly into this show. The >sound was excellent, it was intimate, they were >smiling, Jaz was raving, the fans were singing, I >probably got a wink from Raven while he was singing >along to one of the songs (or maybe I=EDm just obsessed >fanboy =F1 my point is that there was a lot of >interaction with the audience). A few guys in the >first row were bowing in homage repeatedly to Geordie >as he unleashed some of his trademark chords. Jaz >spent a lot of time watching =F1 and directing the >audience to appreciate =F1 the incredible tunes and >TIGHT TIMING that Geordie and Raven were putting on. >Jaz said =ECweve thrown in some extra songs, not because >we love you but because Raven says he=EDs some sort of >queen here=D6=EE > >Humorously, after Ted (who was great on all nights) >jumped in too early on both the Chicago and Milwaukee >renditions of The Wait, he learned his lesson and >waited patiently, then jumped in with the drum pattern >on EMPIRE SONG. Apparently, they inserted Empire Song >where they normally play the Wait (Raven even got his >=ECWait=EE bass guitar before the song), and Ted didn=EDt >get the memo. So after Ted jumped in, Geordie looked >back in the =ECwhat the fuck=EE expression, Raven burst >out laughing, and Jaz said (kindly) =ECThat=EDs right Ted, >Empire Song, that=EDs what I said.=EE Then (to the crowd): >=ECStop laughing, it can happen to anyone!=EE It was a >light moment, and Ted put his head in his hand for a >few embarrassed moments, but I cannot say enough how >he shouldn=EDt feel bad, as he was FLAWLESS on drums >(when he knew what song was next, hee hee). Raven >consoled him with some good ribbing, and then the >beautiful hum of Empire Song kicked back in. After >Empire, they indeed played The Wait, and Ted was >perfect, heh. > >There were other funny moments: >-Before =ECPssyche,=EE Jaz said this was =ECthe first song >we ever wrote=EE to which Geordie replied, =ECwho wrote >it??? WHO wrote it??=EE forcing Jaz to admit that it was >Geordie=EDs riff and idea. >-Before Empire song (I think, one of the earlier songs >anyway), Jaz talked about =ECthis is just a night out >for you all, but it=EDs a ritual, a celebration we=EDve >been doing for 25 years=D6well him and him [pointing to >Geordie and Raven] anyway=D6Nick here is just a dancer >boy over there.=EE >-Before Pandemonium, Nick had the opening tone going >on the keyboard, and Geordie was pointing to him that >it was the wrong pitch =F1 it needed to be a little >higher. Jaz said, =ECwhat, what do you know?=EE to >Geordie, and Geordie grabbed his nipples to make fun >of Nick again. Sure enough, Nick tweaked the tone ever >so slightly and landed on the right pitch. Again, it >was a laugh-by-all moment. But Jaz went into his >speechifying at the intro to Pandemonium, then cued >Nick to hit the dramatic string chords after each >proclamation=D6only Nick wasn=EDt watching Jaz=EDs hand >gestures. (Oh dear, how dare someone tune Jaz out >during his speeches? haha) > >Again, I know they played the following songs, but the >order may be messed up in the middle third: >Communion >Requiem >Total Invasion >Wardance >Blood/Hands >Change >Seeing Red >Fall of Because >Empire Song >The Wait >Death/Resurrection >Asteroid >Whiteout >Frenzy (Jaz dedicated this to =ECBen, an ill friend of >Killing Joke who wants us to be there when he dies=EE=D6he >had explained that the song was partly about the >moments before you die, when you know you=EDre going to >die, when details become clearer and plentiful and >everything is focus, but you=EDre running out of time, >or something to that effect). >Pssyche >Encore: Loose Cannon/Pandemonium > >During several songs, including Whiteout, Geordie was >having trouble with his top two strings, so he had to >basically retune them (thumbing them far off the >fret-board in displeasure) in the middle of a few >songs. During Whiteout, we listened to Nick=EDs keyboard >sample loop several times in the middle of the song >while the band waited for Geordie to get his harp back >in order. I can=EDt say it detracted from the set, >though. It was great to see them work on their feet, >and they were just in top-form, playing-wise, on this >night. > >Loose Cannon played worse live (this time) than on the >album. I enjoy the live recording of it at Manchester, >but this one was odd, just too plodding and slow-paced >for the energetic set we had just witnessed. For it to >be the first encore was anticlimactic, to be sure. But >Pandemonium was pretty good (it was better in >Chicago). Jaz preceded it by holding up two fingers in >the =ECpeace=EE symbol, and asked =ECWhat=EDs this?=D6NO, it=EDs >the twin towers, hahahahahahaha! Because September 11 >was an American Dream for some=D6why? Why? Because you >all have lost your courage=D6you won=EDt speak up >anymore=D6don=EDt be shy, have courage, don=EDt be shy!=EE >Etc. > >The two friends I brought absolutely loved their >introduction to the joke. "Geordie's so calm, he looks >like he's playing for Sting" said one, "he kind of >looks like a porn star," said another. "Is Jaz >mentally fit, do you think?" asked the first friend. >Because one had to work in the morning and the other >will be drug-tested on his next few med-school >rotations, I didn=EDt force them to try to go back >stage, though I=EDm sure we would have been welcome, as >I was carrying a helluva powerful joint. (During the >set, Jaz had basically instructed =ECanyone with drugs=EE >to see the roadies after the show). > >Maybe there will be another time to smoke with the >band. Or maybe there won=EDt. I don=EDt care, I had an >awesome fucking time seeing three damn good shows. >Even with Milwaukee=EDs Jaz-fart and Chicago=EDs sound >issues, it was Killing Joke live. As I finally >confirmed for myself in person, nothing else compares. > >Good God, I=EDve just written a lot. Sorry. If you=EDve >made it this far, you=EDre as sadistically, fanatically >completist as I am, I suppose. > >Cheers, >Dominik / =ECJiri=EE > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 23:02:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:02:11 +0100 Subject: [kj] Struggle In-Reply-To: <000e01c3a618$4594a020$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <3FAD8403.21452.455234C@localhost> On 8 Nov 2003 at 16:49, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > Not aware of it Bo, but then again it may have been. Thanks, how about Rubicon then? b From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 23:02:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:02:11 +0100 Subject: [kj] Diary of a virgin on tour: Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis In-Reply-To: <20031108221036.35853.qmail@web80501.mail.yahoo.com> References: <006f01c3a638$10476680$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <3FAD8403.21848.4552306@localhost> On 8 Nov 2003 at 14:10, Jiri wrote: > First let me apologize for the unforgivable length and > late timing of this post. Sod that, great post! b From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 23:08:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christophe Barry) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:08:16 +0100 Subject: [kj] Diary of a virgin on tour: Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis References: <20031108221036.35853.qmail@web80501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002c01c3a64d$3195a850$5ffda8c0@SACHA> really nice report thanx c. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jiri" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: [kj] Diary of a virgin on tour: Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis > First let me apologize for the unforgivable length and > late timing of this post. I just returned from a week > on the road visiting my sister and others in > Minneapolis and Iowa, I've got a bulging disc in my > back that made it hell to log 30 hours of driving > (much less dance at KJ gigs), but I'm still coming > down from the high of the first three KJ concerts in > my life. So I'm just writing down what I remember and > passing it on for whoever wants to skim a very long > and possibly tedious read. Alas, reading similar stuff > is why I'm on this list, anyway!! :P > > First, of note: > ***Seen a few posts on this but haven't been able to > read all 270 Gathering posts.Milwaukee was supremely > disappointing, but mostly due to Jaz - the band was > SPOT.ON. Very tight. I still had a blast, but am > definitely glad it wasn't my only show. After they > left abruptly without an encore, the short roadie with > the long-ponytail and receding hairline said "Show's > over, folks.too much partying beforehand" - apparently > blaming Jaz's drunkenness for the abrupt end. Though > it could have also been his voice.maybe he was saving > it for the big(ger) Minneapolis show. > ***I've uploaded a few crappy-quality photos of the > Minneapolis gig to the Yahoo group > http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/kj-list/ My camera > has too much of a delay on it for me to count on > decent shots at the precise moment when the lighting > is good, so I just had to guess a few seconds ahead of > when I thought the white-heat lamps would shine on the > Joke. (I didn't use a flash, because the flash on my > camera's pretty obnoxiously bright, and I didn't want > to piss off anyone after carrying the camera in under > my unmentionables). The "best" of mixed results are in > the Yahoo group photos folder under "Minneapolis." > Only thing of note on the photos was Raven without his > sock-hat (heh heh), which he tossed just a few songs > into the show. > ***I also have a video of Seeing Red performed in > Minneapolis, but a) it's 8MB, b)the sound isn't > anything you'd play, say, on your stereo (this was > from my digital still-photo-camera, and I'm a total > novice), c) the images aren't fantastic, as I learned > too late that my camera's zoom function doesn't work > for video. But it's kind of fun to watch once or > twice. I have no Web space, but if anyone's interested > I could upload it or even e-mail it to someone with > the tech expertise I clearly lack. I have a now > even-greater respect for all of you who record gigs. > It's so hard to concentrate on that when you want to > hear/see the brilliant show. I was hoping to do my > part to contribute by recording a new song live, but > to obviously mixed results on my first try. > > Now on to the shows, if you care for painfully > detailed ramblings: > CHICAGO > My fiancé Lisa and I met Lexi, Mark and Lexi's better > half Kyle in the Raw Bar next door to the venue in > Chicago. It was great to meet you guys - made me glad > I didn't spend the whole pre-show evening lying down > in my hotel room trying to straighten out my back. > Interestingly enough, someone had placed a copy of > "The Incomplete Collection" behind the bar at the Raw > Bar - I noted to Lisa that yes, that's the same > collection I saw an autographed copy of in a San > Francisco record store four years ago and neglected to > buy because we were completely broke at the time. She > kindly reminded me what an idiot I was. Thanks, honey, > twist that knife! Kyle was VERY talkative ("he's never > this way unless he's excited," Lexi said), which was > probably good, because I was overcome with > anticipation and as talkative as a brick wall. > > Before and after the show, I met a few lurkers on the > Gathering (whose e-mail names I now forget.sorry, it's > been a long week), as a few saw my t-shirt (I was > wearing the old Gathering t-shirt that Exorcist was > wearing in the NYC pictures) and asked me if I was a > member. It was funny, reminded me of the guy (sorry, I > forget whom) who said he stopped asking people at an > eastern U.S. show if they were on the Gathering after > the fifth consecutive person gave him a puzzled look. > > Anyway, while Lexi's man Kyle picked up several > records, including the "Me or You" single and "Outside > the Gate" in the record store next door, we debated > how to arrive just in time to miss Amen but get good > spots. I cannot emphasize enough how incredible this > was. THIS WAS MY FIRST KJ SHOW EVER. After foolishly > missing them in '94 (they're back, they'll tour > again.right? is what I thought back then. Idiot.), I > wasn't going to miss this chance. > > After Lexi thought she saw Atkins (perhaps in disguise > to save his bacon from Raven), we got upstairs at the > Metro to find Amen overstaying their welcome as the > legion of Killing Joke fans, scattered in the back > like hungry lions waiting out their show, giving Amen > a hard time. "GET OFF THE FUCKING STAGE!" and so-on. > Amen finally left, we grabbed our spots at the front > near Raven, and I proceeded to not think about my > bulging disc and my over-filled bladder. Because of > medication I'm taking for my back, I went easy on the > alcohol, even drinking light beer (as if it would > help), but I still had to piss like hell as we waited > for the Joke to appear. Couldn't bare to risk Lisa's > spot (she's fairly short) to go to the toilets at my > first KJ show. > > The bladder-busting WAIT was worth it. Faith Healer > came on and like Pavlov's dog I started salivating. > Nick Walker and Ted (in red Malicious Damage clock > shirt) appeared on stage first, and hilariously, few > in the crowd seemed to realize this was the band (not > sound guys) appearing. When Raven and Geordie walked > on, the applause from a pretty full house erupted. You > all know from the shows and/or live recordings how it > went from here.Communion keyboards, then Ted & Raven > kick into the first beats and tones of the song, > meanwhile Jaz does his angel of darkness walk onto the > stage, under hood: "See patterns in the winds and in > the sand." > > After being a fanatic for (a young, humble) 13 years > or so, it was so DAMN ENJOYABLE to see the Joke > finally perform live for the first time. I couldn't > believe how quick their transition between songs was, > the way they seamlessly jumped from the orgasmic end > of one song to the enticing foreplay of the next: it > was such frenetic excitement for me after these years > of waiting. My back was killing me all day, but by a > few songs into the show I noticed the adrenaline (or > drugs and alcohol) had kicked in enough that I was > able to dance without feeling pain.I was ready to take > the suffering tomorrow for the ecstasy of tonight. So > much I've heard about I finally witnessed in person: > Geordie as amazingly calm and magi-like as advertised; > Jaz's theatrics and berating of the audience "the 2004 > election has already been decided. You're all voting > Republican, whether you like it or not, > hahahAHAHAHA.WARDANCE!!", and Raven's cool bass while > also hamming it up with the audience of friends and > fans alike. Nick was flawless, and Ted was a monster > on drums. His only mistake was coming in with the > first drum-pounding in "The Wait" when he should have > waited for the pause after Geordie's intro. Geordie > threw his arms up in mild disgust, but as has been > mentioned in some of the messages I've skimmed since I > left, the sound was really screwed up at the Metro, so > this was the least of anyone's worries. > > Apparently the Metro had the former lead singer of the > Spin Doctors (looking for work, are we?) or a > reasonable lookalike working sound, and despite Jaz, > Geordie, and Raven at separate times each looking > back at him in horror, there was apparently nothing he > knew how to do to fix the feedback. Ah well, he sucked > with the Spin Doctors, too. The feedback was a low > droning that really ruined some of the songs from the > new album (including Blood/Hands), but it was even in > effect when Raven wasn't touching his bass. Geordies' > solo jam 2/3 through Blood/Hands (just before Raven > joins him) was even sabotaged by the droning bass-ish > feedback. Nonetheless it was a blast, and they > somewhat overcame the sound problems, or made-do at > least, in the final third of the show. My lady Lisa > didn't get her favorite (You'll Never Get To Me, ha > hahaha) nor Empire Song, which was in her head all > day, but she had a blast, and her indoctrination to > the Joke was complete. She (and lucky me) even got an > errant spray of Raven's spit as he tried to hack > loogies on various offending people in the crowd (for > reasons I couldn't determine, but there were some > interesting birds in the audience). > > I know these songs were played, but not certain of the > order in the middle third: > > CHICAGO > Communion > Requiem > Total Invasion > Wardance > Blood/Hands (Jaz appeared to forget the words for a > while here, put his hand on his head, then promptly > repeated the "G.M. crops grow" line in the middle of > the "Diana/conspiracy" verse) > Change > Seeing Red > Kings & Queens (Jaz got all nostalgic at the things KJ > has gone through "over these 25 years" before this > one) > Fall of Because ("When we as children must learn to > unlearn the rubbish" Jaz said) > The Wait > Death/Resurrection ("Why does the rest of the world > hate us so?" Jaz asked in a thickly sarcastic voice) > Whiteout ("We do drugs and get drunk to wash away > reality, because reality sucks.this is called > WHITEOUT!") > Pssyche (Raven joined in the singing in this one, > including piping in "Chicago's got you suss'd!") > Frenzy (oooooh, the beautiful hum from Geordie's > guitar. Because of sound issues, I didn't get to hear > and appreciate him as much as I wanted to, but it's > hard not to notice him on this song) > Encore: Asteroid and Pandemonium ("The U.K. and U.S. > are the most hated nations in the world," and so on, > Jaz said before Pandy. I couldn't hear everything he > said all night, but it of course was along this line). > > > MILWAUKEE > Milwaukee was funny. A very shitty venue (The Rave) > with obnoxious staff and INCREDIBLY overpriced > Miller-products beer, on a very rainy Sunday night > when the local obsession, the (American) football > team, the Green Bay Packers, were playing a Sunday > night game. So few locals were going to fight the > torrential rain on a Sunday night, ignore the Packers, > and come see the Joke. There were about 12 teenage > boys at the front of the stage to see Amen, and then > the "crowd" swelled to about 100 people for the Joke. > It didn't help that the space behind the crowd was > cavernously empty. Jaz's voice was in bad shape again, > but it would have helped had he actually held the > microphone to his mouth during most of the show. The > system didn't pick up his vocals half the time because > he was holding the mic down by his sternum. > > Add to this that Jaz appeared drunk off his ass, and > we basically saw an excellent band play behind a > rambling, mumbling homeless person in a Halloween > costume. Raven, Geordie, Ted and Nick were tight, > playing a flawless, energetic set (or as energetic as > a comatose frontman would allow), but Jaz was a > virtual no-show. These were loyal fans who showed up > on this night - including Chicagoans who weren't able > to see the show the night before - and I know many of > them left with a severely diminished opinion of the > Joke, thanks to Jaz's drivel and the abrupt end to the > show/lack of encore. > > Curiously, Jaz paused several times in between songs > and pretended that the band was "deciding which songs > to play based on the atmosphere" - an apparent rip on > the small crowd and lack of energy. However, the only > change they made to the set was omitting Seeing Red > and canceling the encore. Perhaps they skipped Seeing > Red and never intended to play D&RS because those > songs are particularly hard on Jaz's voice. Whatever > the case, the appearance of "picking songs based on > the atmosphere" was a charade, as they otherwise stuck > to the setlist (which I got a copy of). Jaz again > forgot even more lines to "Invasion" and "Blood" and > appeared to be thinking of them while the band took > the in-between-verses stanzas on longer and longer, > waiting for Jaz to kick in to sing the lyrics he > couldn't remember into the microphone he couldn't hold > up. Yeah, I'd say the man may have been a stack of > sheets to the wind. > > I did meet Raven briefly before the show, as the > Milwaukee woman I met up with before the show ambushed > him and gave him CDs to give to Jaz -- one of a > Yugoslavian group that was supposedly similar to Can. > I just told Raven they played an awesome show the > night before, and he said "Yeah, we had some fun, > didn't we?" It was cool to meet him; he was as nice > and welcoming as advertised, despite being attacked in > mid-conversation by my companion. "Thanks! Ah, the > gift of music, that's great!" he said with enthusiasm. > > I was right up front by Raven for the show. It was > great to be that close and just watch he and Geordie's > seemingly effortless work. I got the balls to smuggle > my camera in, but then when the Chicagoan next to me > was told to leave or take his camera back to his car, > I decided against using it. As I said, the staff was > obnoxious, and the crowd was small, so the camera > would've been easily spotted. > > Anyway, the abbreviated setlist: Like I said, what was > played was played flawlessly, except for Jaz. And as a > final note on the woman who posted to the NME board, > it was not a long wait for the Joke to come on. It was > less of a wait than in Chicago, and gee, just about > the amount of time it takes to set up the headliner's > equipment after the opening band quits. I suppose she > was overcome by her disappointment. But the sound was > also much better than in Chicago. I can't stress > enough that the band was damn good, Jaz wasn't. I > don't really remember what else Jaz mumbled during the > set, though at one point he commented on the small > crowd with "this is like a special occasion for you" - > only it seemed pretty sarcastic, as he didn't appear > in the mood to give us anything special. > > The Milwaukee setlist (both intended and actually > played): > Communion > Requiem > Total Invasion > Wardance > Blood/Hands > Change > [Seeing Red skipped] > Fall of Because > Kings & Queens > Wait > Whiteout > Pssyche > [encore of Asteroid and Pandemonium cancelled.they > just quietly left the stage after Pssyche] > > > Next, a five-hour drive over crippling back pain to > Minneapolis (sorry for the travel details, Dub :P), by > far the best show of my three nights. > > MINNEAPOLIS > The Fine Line is an interesting, small but tidy venue > with a balcony that cuts diagonally over the back of > the main area. Reserved seats went to people at tables > at the front of the balcony. What was best about this > show (aside from the great energy and long set that > the Joke provided) was that there was no four-foot > barricade buffer in between the crowd and the stage. > We were right there, and the stage was just maybe 3 > feet off the floor. > > I convinced two of my friends to go to this show (my > fiancé headed home to resume teaching children to > become "the rules we've taught them" after the Chicago > show), and they were NOT disappointed. Since they only > knew a few Killing Joke songs, I didn't force them to > stand in the first row; we stayed back a "safe" 2 or 3 > rows back. The show wasn't body-to-body packed, but it > was well-attended. Some young'uns even moshed during > Seeing Red, Blood, and some of the oldies. > > All five members were clearly into this show. The > sound was excellent, it was intimate, they were > smiling, Jaz was raving, the fans were singing, I > probably got a wink from Raven while he was singing > along to one of the songs (or maybe I'm just obsessed > fanboy - my point is that there was a lot of > interaction with the audience). A few guys in the > first row were bowing in homage repeatedly to Geordie > as he unleashed some of his trademark chords. Jaz > spent a lot of time watching - and directing the > audience to appreciate - the incredible tunes and > TIGHT TIMING that Geordie and Raven were putting on. > Jaz said "weve thrown in some extra songs, not because > we love you but because Raven says he's some sort of > queen here." > > Humorously, after Ted (who was great on all nights) > jumped in too early on both the Chicago and Milwaukee > renditions of The Wait, he learned his lesson and > waited patiently, then jumped in with the drum pattern > on EMPIRE SONG. Apparently, they inserted Empire Song > where they normally play the Wait (Raven even got his > "Wait" bass guitar before the song), and Ted didn't > get the memo. So after Ted jumped in, Geordie looked > back in the "what the fuck" expression, Raven burst > out laughing, and Jaz said (kindly) "That's right Ted, > Empire Song, that's what I said." Then (to the crowd): > "Stop laughing, it can happen to anyone!" It was a > light moment, and Ted put his head in his hand for a > few embarrassed moments, but I cannot say enough how > he shouldn't feel bad, as he was FLAWLESS on drums > (when he knew what song was next, hee hee). Raven > consoled him with some good ribbing, and then the > beautiful hum of Empire Song kicked back in. After > Empire, they indeed played The Wait, and Ted was > perfect, heh. > > There were other funny moments: > -Before "Pssyche," Jaz said this was "the first song > we ever wrote" to which Geordie replied, "who wrote > it??? WHO wrote it??" forcing Jaz to admit that it was > Geordie's riff and idea. > -Before Empire song (I think, one of the earlier songs > anyway), Jaz talked about "this is just a night out > for you all, but it's a ritual, a celebration we've > been doing for 25 years.well him and him [pointing to > Geordie and Raven] anyway.Nick here is just a dancer > boy over there." > -Before Pandemonium, Nick had the opening tone going > on the keyboard, and Geordie was pointing to him that > it was the wrong pitch - it needed to be a little > higher. Jaz said, "what, what do you know?" to > Geordie, and Geordie grabbed his nipples to make fun > of Nick again. Sure enough, Nick tweaked the tone ever > so slightly and landed on the right pitch. Again, it > was a laugh-by-all moment. But Jaz went into his > speechifying at the intro to Pandemonium, then cued > Nick to hit the dramatic string chords after each > proclamation.only Nick wasn't watching Jaz's hand > gestures. (Oh dear, how dare someone tune Jaz out > during his speeches? haha) > > Again, I know they played the following songs, but the > order may be messed up in the middle third: > Communion > Requiem > Total Invasion > Wardance > Blood/Hands > Change > Seeing Red > Fall of Because > Empire Song > The Wait > Death/Resurrection > Asteroid > Whiteout > Frenzy (Jaz dedicated this to "Ben, an ill friend of > Killing Joke who wants us to be there when he dies".he > had explained that the song was partly about the > moments before you die, when you know you're going to > die, when details become clearer and plentiful and > everything is focus, but you're running out of time, > or something to that effect). > Pssyche > Encore: Loose Cannon/Pandemonium > > During several songs, including Whiteout, Geordie was > having trouble with his top two strings, so he had to > basically retune them (thumbing them far off the > fret-board in displeasure) in the middle of a few > songs. During Whiteout, we listened to Nick's keyboard > sample loop several times in the middle of the song > while the band waited for Geordie to get his harp back > in order. I can't say it detracted from the set, > though. It was great to see them work on their feet, > and they were just in top-form, playing-wise, on this > night. > > Loose Cannon played worse live (this time) than on the > album. I enjoy the live recording of it at Manchester, > but this one was odd, just too plodding and slow-paced > for the energetic set we had just witnessed. For it to > be the first encore was anticlimactic, to be sure. But > Pandemonium was pretty good (it was better in > Chicago). Jaz preceded it by holding up two fingers in > the "peace" symbol, and asked "What's this?.NO, it's > the twin towers, hahahahahahaha! Because September 11 > was an American Dream for some.why? Why? Because you > all have lost your courage.you won't speak up > anymore.don't be shy, have courage, don't be shy!" > Etc. > > The two friends I brought absolutely loved their > introduction to the joke. "Geordie's so calm, he looks > like he's playing for Sting" said one, "he kind of > looks like a porn star," said another. "Is Jaz > mentally fit, do you think?" asked the first friend. > Because one had to work in the morning and the other > will be drug-tested on his next few med-school > rotations, I didn't force them to try to go back > stage, though I'm sure we would have been welcome, as > I was carrying a helluva powerful joint. (During the > set, Jaz had basically instructed "anyone with drugs" > to see the roadies after the show). > > Maybe there will be another time to smoke with the > band. Or maybe there won't. I don't care, I had an > awesome fucking time seeing three damn good shows. > Even with Milwaukee's Jaz-fart and Chicago's sound > issues, it was Killing Joke live. As I finally > confirmed for myself in person, nothing else compares. > > Good God, I've just written a lot. Sorry. If you've > made it this far, you're as sadistically, fanatically > completist as I am, I suppose. > > Cheers, > Dominik / "Jiri" > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 23:23:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:23:21 -0000 Subject: [kj] Struggle/Rubicon References: <3FAD8403.21452.455234C@localhost> Message-ID: <00ac01c3a64f$4d744ac0$a4887ed4@mydomain.com> Ah, Rubicon, yes, this was aired in the UK for the first time at the Reading Festival, Friday 22nd August 1986 along with the other new tracks from the imminent BTATS which appear on the BBC In Concert CD (plus Adorations which was also left off the CD) - Rubicon was the final song of the set and over Geordie urgent guitar intro Jaz said "the prostitutes are out, they will sell anything" - as the rain came down I remember a fair deal of stage pyrotechnics at the end - I've got a Reading Festival paper somewhere and I remember it has a photo of the Joke - possibly taken during Rubicon - I'll try to dig it out. Rubicon was also part of the set on the BTATS UK tour. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Krogsgaard" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Struggle > On 8 Nov 2003 at 16:49, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > Not aware of it Bo, but then again it may have been. > > Thanks, how about Rubicon then? > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 23:36:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dave Axford) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:36:03 -0500 Subject: [kj] Diary of a virgin on tour: Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis References: <20031108221036.35853.qmail@web80501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01c3a651$134bea90$826f8a3f@Joker> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C3A627.2A330D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > The two friends I brought absolutely loved their > introduction to the joke. "Geordie's so calm, he looks > like he's playing for Sting" said one, "he kind of > looks like a porn star," said another.=20 Ha, ha. A friend of mine that I took along to one of the "Pandemonium" = shows said of Geordie: "My god, he's the most relaxed guitar player I've = ever seen in my entire life... He's like a librarian or something". I = got a chuckle out of that one. Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C3A627.2A330D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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> introduction to the joke. "Geordie's so calm, he = looks
>=20 like he's playing for Sting" said one, "he kind of
> looks like a = porn=20 star," said another.
 
Ha, ha. A friend of mine that = I took=20 along to one of the "Pandemonium" shows said of Geordie: = "My god,=20 he's the most relaxed guitar player I've ever seen in my entire life... = He's=20 like a librarian or something". I got a chuckle out of that=20 one.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C3A627.2A330D30-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 8 23:36:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (P Bernardi) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:36:36 -0500 Subject: [kj] Diary of a virgin on tour: Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis References: <20031108221036.35853.qmail@web80501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3FAD7E04.6020703@erols.com> Jiri, damn fine email there. It was me down in DC who halted his inquiring of=20 strangers about the gathering AND i also recognized your shirt upon=20 exiting the gig in chicago and introduced myself. After I saw your post I realized my absent mindedness in mentioning=20 Atkins, En Esch + C. Levi were in attendance at the chicago show. p- Jiri wrote: > > >Before and after the show, I met a few lurkers on the >Gathering (whose e-mail names I now forget&sorry, it=19s >been a long week), as a few saw my t-shirt (I was >wearing the old Gathering t-shirt that Exorcist was >wearing in the NYC pictures) and asked me if I was a >member. It was funny, reminded me of the guy (sorry, I >forget whom) who said he stopped asking people at an >eastern U.S. show if they were on the Gathering after >the fifth consecutive person gave him a puzzled look. > > > =20 > From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 01:14:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:14:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee??Ha!mmm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031109011409.66735.qmail@web11509.mail.yahoo.com> this was a good one, PR, i'm still laughing. someone should let Jaz read this rip/take on the lyrics. saul --- pr 001 wrote: so put on your masks and animal skins no illumination no illumination. listen to the drums can't hear the guitar just the fucking drums. oh beloved pissheads of england - hold me in contempt! burn burn, not very brightly on a par with richard whiteley bottles and empty cans - streak across the sky. so sorry, so go to THE WE-CAN'T-BE-BOTHERED SHOW! > >--- sade1 wrote: > >How about all the sex with the groupies? doesn't make up for > >EVERYTHING? > >saul > >--- Leigh Newton wrote: > >You > > > had dressing rooms? LUCKY! hehe. All that said, the > > > highs by far outshine the lows. If you're into it, i > > > guess. I don't know. It's fun. fun! > >===== > >WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > > > >"Get me out > > of the here and now > > I want to be > > another here, another..." ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 01:37:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:37:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events In-Reply-To: <009301c3a497$45d96d40$d6887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <20031109013709.26217.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> --- Antoni Adamiak wrote: > Anyone heard about the planetary alignment this weekend ? Six > planets will > appear equally spaced in a ring, forming a hexagram or > six-pointed star. The only planetary formation of celestial bodies this week is an 'attack formation', which will be visible up and down the west coast of N.America; a seventh celestial body-an Asteroid-will join the 6 previously mentioned and form a septangular/ heptagonal formation -- its effect is known as 'sonic dissonance.' > it's > event we have > never seen before and it will not recur within our lifetimes. Sounds about right with kj > So there's a > Star Of David in the sky or a chariot somewhere.. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 01:48:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:48:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT -- shipped to England Message-ID: <20031109014856.70709.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> not the best way to send one's regards, http://truthout.org/docs_03/110803G.shtml ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 08:47:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 00:47:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031109084759.12684.qmail@web10403.mail.yahoo.com> I saw it. It was cool. Totally clear sky and a great big chocolate moon with a sliver of silver. Leigh --- Jester wrote: > So, it's about 7 hours till mid eclipse? Shit. I > don¹t think we have a snow > balls chance in hell at viewing it here. Complete > and total cloud cover > till about Monday or later. > > > Oh well...as so eloquently put, so what. Mystical > and scientific things like > these items have NO place on a list for Killing Joke > fans. We all know that > Jaz hates this shit. :rolleyes: > > On 11/8/03 11:13 AM, "Antoni Adamiak" > wrote: > > > Yes, so what indeed but if anyone else is > interesting in watching today's > > total lunar eclipse (weather permitting), this > link < > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3249951.stm > > will advise if you have a > > chance of seeing *it* red ... > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 7:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial > events > > > > > >> SO WHAT !! > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 09:58:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 03:58:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events In-Reply-To: from "Jester" at Nov 08, 2003 11:51:55 AM Message-ID: <200311090958.hA99wVqU003200@basil.jkm.net> > So, it's about 7 hours till mid eclipse? Shit. I don=B9t think we have = a snow > balls chance in hell at viewing it here. Complete and total cloud cove= r > till about Monday or later. Yes, but at least UT kicked OSU's butt and OU kicked A&M's worse than they did UT's! ;-) I didn't watch the games, but did see the scores :-) From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 13:19:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (ade) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:19:43 -0000 Subject: [kj] Struggle In-Reply-To: <20031108212556.82943.qmail@web86101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000401c3a6c4$2434d970$0200a8c0@thelab.local> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3A6C4.24372360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go here & get a gobful!! http://www.mr-pants.no-ip.info/audio/KillingJoke -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of bluce ree Sent: 08 November 2003 21:26 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: RE: [kj] Struggle Is that Mr Pants in the 'encouraging nibble' sense? ade wrote: I still have a copy of that version of Solitude here: http://www.mr-pants.no-ip.info/audio/KillingJoke/Live/1988-12-17.Sheffield.L eadmill ade. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Antoni Adamiak Sent: 08 November 2003 16:49 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Struggle Not aware of it Bo, but then again it may have been. Sadly, Slipstream never really got past the soundcheck stage, a version of which was once up on Ana's site and may still be. Kaliyuga was often used as the intro music at that time, although I also remember excellent "Force And Fire" (of Songs From The Victorious City epic) being used on one tour - was that '90/'91 or maybe later. Anyway, I digress. Never heard either version of Solitude played live, although the ear ly version obviously was. * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Krogsgaard" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 4:35 PM Subject: [kj] Struggle > > Was Struggle ever played live? > > > b > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! 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Sent: 08 November 2003 21:26
To:=20 gathering@misera.net
Subject: RE: [kj] = Struggle

Is that Mr Pants in the 'encouraging nibble' = sense?

ade=20 <ade@the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:=20
I=20 still have a copy of that version of Solitude=20 = here:

http://www.mr-pants.no-ip.info/audio/KillingJoke/Live/1988-1= 2-17.Sheffield.L
eadmill

ade.

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Subject: Re: = [kj]=20 Struggle


Not aware of it Bo, but then again it may have = been.=20 Sadly, Slipstream never
really got past the soundcheck stage, a = version=20 of which was once up on
Ana's site and may still be. Kaliyuga was = often=20 used as the intro music at
that time, although I also remember = excellent=20 "Force And Fire" (of Songs
From The Victorious City epic) being = used on=20 one tour - was that '90/'91 or
maybe later. Anyway, I digress. = Never=20 heard either version of Solitude
played live, although the ear ly = version=20 obviously was.

* http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *

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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3A6C4.24372360-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 14:38:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:38:11 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events In-Reply-To: <200311090958.hA99wVqU003200@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: On 11/9/03 3:58 AM, "Amy Moseley Rupp" wrote: >> So, it's about 7 hours till mid eclipse? Shit. I don=B9t think we have a s= now >> balls chance in hell at viewing it here. Complete and total cloud cover >> till about Monday or later. >=20 > Yes, but at least UT kicked OSU's butt and OU kicked A&M's worse > than they did UT's! ;-) >=20 > I didn't watch the games, but did see the scores :-) > _______________________________________________ Haha, both, most excellent games. Yeah, was nice to see aggy get drummed to the tune of 77-0. What's funny, is that some of those clowns are still talking about going to a BCS Bowl???? I told Alexi last week, no one would come close to OU the rest of the year. That team is scary, now. I am glad w= e don=B9t have to play em again. I am sure your bro is running round the house, chest thumping this morning. Hey, we beat a team from Oklahoma, and that cant be bad. ;-) Add to that, oSu is what we call aggy lite, and that makes it all even better. We get aTm's daddy this week. The sand aggy's. I still don=B9t get the whole tortill= a thing. \m/ And it is STILL cloudy!!!!!! KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 15:18:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 16:18:27 +0100 Subject: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!! Message-ID:

well, buggers (or was it beggars???) can't be choosers....

and just to calm you down.... alex DIDN'T enjoy it.....

 

dirtydirkdiggler

 

btw, great pics, alex!

>From: Jester
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To:
>Subject: Re: [kj] EVEN YET STILL MORE NYC PICS!!
>Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 00:17:21 -0600
>
>On 11/7/03 11:18 PM, "MotelHell@aol.com" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "Actually, it looks like your grabbing Kara in an attempt to get away. Looks
> > more like Dirk is having his way wiff you...hahaha"
> >
> > Jeezum Crowe, you're right! On closer inspection, it DOES look like I'm
> > takin' one for the team (or taking one FROM the team, as the case may be).
> > Fuck! It
> > looks like one big drunken dry-hump there. Apologies, all. Scoot the kids
> > outta the room, this is not safe viewing.
> >
> > Alex in NYC
> > Reply to home e-mail: vassifer@earthlink.net
>
>
>Who knew that Dirk actually is "DIRK DIGGLER"!?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
>KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
>OCCISIO LOCATIO
>
>THE WEBMASTER,
>JESTER
>WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
>WWW.PARALLAX1.COM
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MSN Mobile - Hotmail Nachrichten aufs Handy Hier klicken From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 16:28:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:28:59 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT - more lunacy & celestial events In-Reply-To: from "Jester" at Nov 09, 2003 08:38:11 AM Message-ID: <200311091628.hA9GSxt1005019@basil.jkm.net> > Hey, we beat a team from Oklahoma, and that cant be bad. ;-) Add to that, > oSu is what we call aggy lite, and that makes it all even better. We get > aTm's daddy this week. The sand aggy's. I still don't get the whole tortilla > thing. Maybe it's their form of manna from heaven? Hoping God will let them win a game? ;-) ;-) ;-) From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 19:54:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:54:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] loose cannon live Message-ID: <20031109195421.220DACF33@sitemail.everyone.net> Anyone got a copy of this please? Jiri mentioned that there was a version from Manchester which I must have missed. Ta. _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 21:00:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:00:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Diary of a virgin on tour: Milwaukee/Chicago/Minneapolis In-Reply-To: <3FAD7E04.6020703@erols.com> Message-ID: <20031109210001.1558.qmail@web80504.mail.yahoo.com> Oh, great, that puts it together for me, then! I remembered the "phantasmas" e-mail part but forgot which name went with it. Thanks! Ironic that you were the one in DC I was thinking of, too :) -J --- P Bernardi wrote: > Jiri, > > damn fine email there. It was me down in DC who > halted his inquiring of > strangers about the gathering AND i also recognized > your shirt upon > exiting the gig in chicago and introduced myself. > > After I saw your post I realized my absent > mindedness in mentioning > Atkins, En Esch + C. Levi were in attendance at the > chicago show. > p- > > Jiri wrote: > > > > > > >Before and after the show, I met a few lurkers on > the > >Gathering (whose e-mail names I now forget&sorry, > its > >been a long week), as a few saw my t-shirt (I was > >wearing the old Gathering t-shirt that Exorcist was > >wearing in the NYC pictures) and asked me if I was > a > >member. It was funny, reminded me of the guy > (sorry, I > >forget whom) who said he stopped asking people at > an > >eastern U.S. show if they were on the Gathering > after > >the fifth consecutive person gave him a puzzled > look. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 21:04:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:04:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] loose cannon live In-Reply-To: <20031109195421.220DACF33@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20031109210412.62021.qmail@web80501.mail.yahoo.com> Rob, I got it from the "gig of the week" on Madani's site just before I left...it might still be there. If not, I have it on my work computer, which I will (sadly) renew acquaintences with tomorrow. --- Rob's Arse wrote: > > > Anyone got a copy of this please? > Jiri mentioned that there was a version from > Manchester which I must have missed. Ta. > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 22:19:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fat potanga) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 22:19:39 +0000 Subject: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player Message-ID: i-tunes is free and is both a ripper and a player Has loads of features including a 10 band eq with a load of presets, smart playlists, rather nifty screen FX while playing can burn directly from it if you have a writer attached, Also has online radio built in, oh hell, loads of stuff.... Like I said, it's free so check it out. > http://www.apple.com/itunes/ I've used loads or rippers and players and this is the best I've ever used by far. Not much of an endorsement I know, but what can you do? i-Tunes. As used by fatpotanga. ----Original Message Follows---- From: bluce ree Reply-To: gathering@misera.net To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:37:54 +0000 (GMT) i use audiocrusher to make mp3s and it seems to be excellent, I also use regular old Windows Media Player to play them. How does iTunes improve on them? and is it free? Jester wrote:Well, everyone knows I am an Apple geek...so my opinion is looked at as skewed a bit, but Jamie is right. iTunes is the best fucking thing around. Because of iPod, Apple ported iTunes to Windows, and it really does look and feel like the Mac version. Very cool. On 11/8/03 5:25 AM, "fat potanga" wrote: > try i-tunes. > In fact everybody get i-tunes. > Yes, even you mum. > > It's free and is now available for Windows. > It's by far the best mp3 (and many other formats) player and fastest ripper > I've used, and is riddled with great features. > > http://www.apple.com/itunes/ > > Fat J - on commission? =;¬) > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: GregSlawson@aol.com > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old stuff (Peyr) > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:17 EST > > I can't seem to get the Peyr tracks to play on the computer. Any > suggestions? > Which program should I use to open it? Thanks. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 9 22:30:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 17:30:10 -0500 Subject: [kj] Help ;] Message-ID: <200311092230.hA9MU4cw022034@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151243810_612335_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Mike, I sent you "A New Day" on Friday night. Did ya get it? Alex in NYC ---------- From: Mike To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] Help ;] Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 9:25 PM Would someone please be as kind to send me "New Day". I/ve been trying to to snag it,but i/m having terrible luck. Thanks New Guy Mike --MS_Mac_OE_3151243810_612335_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Help ;]
Mike, I sent you "A New Day" on Friday night. Did ya get it?

Alex in NYC


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From: Mike <tailgnr@optonline.net>
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: [kj] Help ;]
Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 9:25 PM


Would someone please be as kind to send me "= ;New Day".
  I/ve been trying to to snag it,but i/m having terrible luck.             &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;  Thanks
            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;        New Guy Mike

--MS_Mac_OE_3151243810_612335_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 03:33:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 19:33:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] SF show SOLD OUT!!....(at least online) Message-ID: <20031110033320.34259.qmail@web80409.mail.yahoo.com> --0-849165423-1068435200=:33070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii SLim's is going to be rocking Thursday, I have a feeling. BRING ON THE 'JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tom. --0-849165423-1068435200=:33070 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
SLim's is going to be rocking Thursday,  I have a feeling.    BRING ON THE 'JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Tom.
--0-849165423-1068435200=:33070-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 14:33:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Pat Tofield) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:33:14 -0800 Subject: [kj] loose cannon live In-Reply-To: <20031109195421.220DACF33@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <000001c3a797$94413eb0$790aa8c0@PATRICK> http://www.latenitelabs.com/pats/12loosecannon.zip enjoy... Pat -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:54 AM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] loose cannon live Anyone got a copy of this please? Jiri mentioned that there was a version from Manchester which I must have missed. Ta. _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 07:53:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:53:53 -0000 Subject: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics Message-ID: <001901c3a75f$ca196720$a04d08c3@mydomain.com> I'm not sure if these have been posted before but some kind soul has posted them up on The Gathering Message Board : Posted by Michael on November 10, 2003 at 03:44:10: (66.81.68.88) For the person looking for these lyrics... from my Japanese CD: http://www.misera.net/gathering/board/messages/4554.html ZENNON Slow the procession that moves down The road as they mourn Hearts that are heavy No burden unloaded No resolution No retribution The madness must stop now No No Whisper the dead to the living They can't hear it's cold But in the sadness that pierces my heart Seeds we sow And in the end all we have is each other Zennon (x4) Molded by computer archetypes Killing is fun Nervous the young boy his first job He lifts up his gun Victims of circumstance Products of what we've begun Wide open mouths as the killer He knows what he's done But in the sadness that pierces my heart Seeds we sow And in the end all we have is each other Zennon (x4) But in the sadness that pierces my heart Seeds we sow And in the end all we have is each other Zennon (x4) http://www.misera.net/gathering/board/messages/4553.html INFERNO Southern countries Come in 20 chains When the dust picks the dust All the things are crossed insane And my skin, feel my skin Getting melanoma Scorcher scorcher Tell me when it's over Tell me when the nightmare's over Drop shell bomb Inferno Drop shell bomb Inferno Brother brother kill brother now Mother mother I'm alone Mother mother my love is gone What's happened at my home Father father kill son Cousin cousin why? Father father ... my head Father father just offer my wife Fire your home Inferno Drop shell bomb Inferno Fuckin' situation You're a sociopath With the best intention Leaders that bleed us Shit on your descendants Eyes flying in the sky Eyeing the triangle Talk good on the phone Everything is wrong And my mind turns black And my mind turns black And my mind turns black Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac Fire your home Inferno Drop shell bomb Inferno Fire your home Inferno Drop shell bomb Inferno ***************************** * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 08:21:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Lucy Cornwell) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:21:52 -0000 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where can I get it (a download would be great!) Lucy From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 10:10:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:10:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] loose cannon live Message-ID: <20031110101016.981617259@sitemail.everyone.net> Cheers Pat Is there a whole gig to match? Ta --- "Pat Tofield" wrote: http://www.latenitelabs.com/pats/12loosecannon.zip enjoy... Pat -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:54 AM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] loose cannon live Anyone got a copy of this please? Jiri mentioned that there was a version from Manchester which I must have missed. Ta. _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 10:19:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:19:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: <20031110101942.DE165E4B9@sitemail.everyone.net> Lucy There was the BBC released album and I believe that there are a few recordings floating about of the whole gig. I don't have the whole gig, but if someone were to send me a copy, I should be pleased to host it. --- "Lucy Cornwell" wrote: Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where can I get it (a download would be great!) Lucy _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 10:30:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Lucy Cornwell) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:30:07 -0000 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 In-Reply-To: <20031110101942.DE165E4B9@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: Cheers for that I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue to work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence looking for the recording. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 10 November 2003 10:20 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Reading '86 Lucy There was the BBC released album and I believe that there are a few recordings floating about of the whole gig. I don't have the whole gig, but if someone were to send me a copy, I should be pleased to host it. --- "Lucy Cornwell" wrote: Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where can I get it (a download would be great!) Lucy _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 10:35:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:35:20 -0000 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF118@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue to >work my way through now Leave "Outside the gate" until last . . . it has been known to leave even the most rabid fan a gibbering wreck :o) Marc . > -----Original Message----- > From: Lucy Cornwell [SMTP:lucy.cornwell@vetstream.com] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:30 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > Cheers for that > I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them > completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue > to > work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence looking > for > the recording. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On > Behalf Of Rob's Arse > Sent: 10 November 2003 10:20 > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Reading '86 > > > Lucy > > There was the BBC released album and I believe that there are a few > recordings floating about of the whole gig. > I don't have the whole gig, but if someone were to send me a copy, I > should > be pleased to host it. > > > --- "Lucy Cornwell" wrote: > Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where can I > get it (a download would be great!) > > > Lucy > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 10:37:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:37:03 -0000 Subject: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF119@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >i-Tunes. As used by fatpotanga. i-Tunes, as foisted upon you with every update of Quicktime (imagine if = MS did that!) :o)=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: fat potanga [SMTP:fatpotanga@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 10:20 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player >=20 > i-tunes is free and is both a ripper and a player > Has loads of features including a 10 band eq with a load of presets, = smart >=20 > playlists, rather nifty screen FX while playing can burn directly = from it > if=20 > you have a writer attached, > Also has online radio built in, oh hell, loads of stuff.... >=20 > Like I said, it's free so check it out. > = http://www.apple.com/itunes/ >=20 > I've used loads or rippers and players and this is the best I've ever = used >=20 > by far. > Not much of an endorsement I know, but what can you do? >=20 > i-Tunes. As used by fatpotanga. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: bluce ree > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player > Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:37:54 +0000 (GMT) >=20 > i use audiocrusher to make mp3s and it seems to be excellent, I also = use=20 > regular old Windows Media Player to play them. How does iTunes = improve on >=20 > them? and is it free? >=20 > Jester wrote:Well, everyone knows I am = an > Apple=20 > geek...so my opinion is looked at as > skewed a bit, but Jamie is right. iTunes is the best fucking thing = around. > Because of iPod, Apple ported iTunes to Windows, and it really does = look > and > feel like the Mac version. Very cool. >=20 > On 11/8/03 5:25 AM, "fat potanga" wrote: >=20 > > try i-tunes. > > In fact everybody get i-tunes. > > Yes, even you mum. > > > > It's free and is now available for Windows. > > It's by far the best mp3 (and many other formats) player and = fastest=20 > ripper > > I've used, and is riddled with great features. > > > > http://www.apple.com/itunes/ > > > > Fat J - on commission? =3D;=AC) > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: GregSlawson@aol.com > > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old stuff (Peyr) > > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:17 EST > > > > I can't seem to get the Peyr tracks to play on the computer. Any > > suggestions? > > Which program should I use to open it? Thanks. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > >=20 > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO >=20 > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------- > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE=20 > Yahoo!Messenger >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection=20 > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >=20 >=20 This communication may contain information that is confidential and = legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). = If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information = within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet = Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 10:53:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Lucy Cornwell) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:53:58 -0000 Subject: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player In-Reply-To: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF119@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> Message-ID: I use alto mp3 maker and audio cleaning lab for recording/ripping and an old version of real player (not realone and no I don't want to upgrade!!) for playback. Come now MS would never produce dodgy software that needed updating every 5 minutes would it??? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 10 November 2003 10:37 To: 'gathering@misera.net' Subject: RE: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player >i-Tunes. As used by fatpotanga. i-Tunes, as foisted upon you with every update of Quicktime (imagine if MS did that!) :o) > -----Original Message----- > From: fat potanga [SMTP:fatpotanga@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 10:20 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player > > i-tunes is free and is both a ripper and a player > Has loads of features including a 10 band eq with a load of presets, smart > > playlists, rather nifty screen FX while playing can burn directly from it > if > you have a writer attached, > Also has online radio built in, oh hell, loads of stuff.... > > Like I said, it's free so check it out. > http://www.apple.com/itunes/ > > I've used loads or rippers and players and this is the best I've ever used > > by far. > Not much of an endorsement I know, but what can you do? > > i-Tunes. As used by fatpotanga. > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: bluce ree > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old, Now MP3 Player > Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:37:54 +0000 (GMT) > > i use audiocrusher to make mp3s and it seems to be excellent, I also use > regular old Windows Media Player to play them. How does iTunes improve on > > them? and is it free? > > Jester wrote:Well, everyone knows I am an > Apple > geek...so my opinion is looked at as > skewed a bit, but Jamie is right. iTunes is the best fucking thing around. > Because of iPod, Apple ported iTunes to Windows, and it really does look > and > feel like the Mac version. Very cool. > > On 11/8/03 5:25 AM, "fat potanga" wrote: > > > try i-tunes. > > In fact everybody get i-tunes. > > Yes, even you mum. > > > > It's free and is now available for Windows. > > It's by far the best mp3 (and many other formats) player and fastest > ripper > > I've used, and is riddled with great features. > > > > http://www.apple.com/itunes/ > > > > Fat J - on commission? =;¬) > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: GregSlawson@aol.com > > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Subject: Re: [kj] Some new old stuff (Peyr) > > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 21:02:17 EST > > > > I can't seem to get the Peyr tracks to play on the computer. Any > > suggestions? > > Which program should I use to open it? Thanks. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > --------------------------------- > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE > Yahoo!Messenger > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 10:55:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Lucy Cornwell) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:55:17 -0000 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 In-Reply-To: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF118@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> Message-ID: Is that hte spoken word one? -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc Sent: 10 November 2003 10:35 To: 'gathering@misera.net' Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 >but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue to >work my way through now Leave "Outside the gate" until last . . . it has been known to leave even the most rabid fan a gibbering wreck :o) Marc . > -----Original Message----- > From: Lucy Cornwell [SMTP:lucy.cornwell@vetstream.com] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:30 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > Cheers for that > I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them > completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue > to > work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence looking > for > the recording. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On > Behalf Of Rob's Arse > Sent: 10 November 2003 10:20 > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Reading '86 > > > Lucy > > There was the BBC released album and I believe that there are a few > recordings floating about of the whole gig. > I don't have the whole gig, but if someone were to send me a copy, I > should > be pleased to host it. > > > --- "Lucy Cornwell" wrote: > Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where can I > get it (a download would be great!) > > > Lucy > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. 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This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 11:12:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:12:19 -0000 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF11A@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Is that hte spoken word one? Oh no . . . tis much worse than that :o) Someone will be along shortly to berate me for bringing the memory of the album up again . . . > -----Original Message----- > From: Lucy Cornwell [SMTP:lucy.cornwell@vetstream.com] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:55 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > Is that hte spoken word one? > > -----Original Message----- > From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On > Behalf Of Phillipps Marc > Sent: 10 November 2003 10:35 > To: 'gathering@misera.net' > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > > >but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue to > >work my way through now > > Leave "Outside the gate" until last . . . it has been known to leave even > the most rabid fan a gibbering wreck :o) > > Marc . > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lucy Cornwell [SMTP:lucy.cornwell@vetstream.com] > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:30 AM > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > Cheers for that > > I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them > > completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back > catalogue > > to > > work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence looking > > for > > the recording. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On > > Behalf Of Rob's Arse > > Sent: 10 November 2003 10:20 > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Subject: Re: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > > > Lucy > > > > There was the BBC released album and I believe that there are a few > > recordings floating about of the whole gig. > > I don't have the whole gig, but if someone were to send me a copy, I > > should > > be pleased to host it. > > > > > > --- "Lucy Cornwell" wrote: > > Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where can > I > > get it (a download would be great!) > > > > > > Lucy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > legally > privileged. 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The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 11:47:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thee Hmmmmmmmm) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:47:16 +0000 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: Best thing about OTG was Raven's little quip regarding Jaz's use of Numerology, Qabbalah, etc... Incidentally where did that first appear [what raven said]? >From: Phillipps Marc >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: "'gathering@misera.net'" >Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:12:19 -0000 > > >Is that hte spoken word one? > >Oh no . . . tis much worse than that :o) > >Someone will be along shortly to berate me for bringing the memory of the >album up again . . . > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lucy Cornwell [SMTP:lucy.cornwell@vetstream.com] > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:55 AM > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > Is that hte spoken word one? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On > > Behalf Of Phillipps Marc > > Sent: 10 November 2003 10:35 > > To: 'gathering@misera.net' > > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > > > >but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue to > > >work my way through now > > > > Leave "Outside the gate" until last . . . it has been known to leave >even > > the most rabid fan a gibbering wreck :o) > > > > Marc . > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Lucy Cornwell [SMTP:lucy.cornwell@vetstream.com] > > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:30 AM > > > To: gathering@misera.net > > > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > > > Cheers for that > > > I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them > > > completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back > > catalogue > > > to > > > work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence >looking > > > for > > > the recording. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On > > > Behalf Of Rob's Arse > > > Sent: 10 November 2003 10:20 > > > To: gathering@misera.net > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > > > > > > Lucy > > > > > > There was the BBC released album and I believe that there are a few > > > recordings floating about of the whole gig. > > > I don't have the whole gig, but if someone were to send me a copy, I > > > should > > > be pleased to host it. > > > > > > > > > --- "Lucy Cornwell" wrote: > > > Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where >can > > I > > > get it (a download would be great!) > > > > > > > > > Lucy > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > > legally > > privileged. 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This > > communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet > > Enfield > > & Haringey Health Communities. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > >This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally >privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If >you >are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of >distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information >within >is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this >communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and >destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any >liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This >communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield >& Haringey Health Communities. > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 11:53:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:53:05 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway will tour UK in December So go and see them, they are great even if they don't look any good ! :> And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms – UK 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail snakker ditt språk! http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail på norsk i dag From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 11:56:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:56:06 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCED@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> Hi Arvid - I've got Manchester in my diary alreay. Saw them at Leeds = festival & thought them very entertaining. I guess I should get some tickets organised for December. NMA, Therapy?, = The Damned, Turbonegro, Alabama 3 & SOD/GLJ all touring... It's gonna be = busy. Jane -----Original Message----- From: Arvid Mork [mailto:kj_change@hotmail.com] Sent: 10 November 2003 11:53 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway will tour UK in December So go and see them, they are great even if they don't look any good ! :> And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail snakker ditt spr=E5k!=20 http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=3Ddasp/lang.asp - F=E5 = Hotmail p=E5=20 norsk i dag _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 11:59:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:59:11 -0000 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF11B@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Incidentally where did that first appear [what >raven said]? I think it was either Sounds of Melody Maker "if you want a hit record you sell your soul to Stock Aitken & Waterman not the Devil" could also be seen as a snipe at Youth who was working with them at the time :o) Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Thee Hmmmmmmmm [SMTP:the_hum@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:47 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > Best thing about OTG was Raven's little quip regarding Jaz's use of > Numerology, Qabbalah, etc... Incidentally where did that first appear > [what > raven said]? > > > >From: Phillipps Marc > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >To: "'gathering@misera.net'" > >Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:12:19 -0000 > > > > >Is that hte spoken word one? > > > >Oh no . . . tis much worse than that :o) > > > >Someone will be along shortly to berate me for bringing the memory of the > >album up again . . . > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Lucy Cornwell [SMTP:lucy.cornwell@vetstream.com] > > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:55 AM > > > To: gathering@misera.net > > > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > > > Is that hte spoken word one? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On > > > Behalf Of Phillipps Marc > > > Sent: 10 November 2003 10:35 > > > To: 'gathering@misera.net' > > > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > > > > > > >but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue to > > > >work my way through now > > > > > > Leave "Outside the gate" until last . . . it has been known to leave > >even > > > the most rabid fan a gibbering wreck :o) > > > > > > Marc . > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Lucy Cornwell [SMTP:lucy.cornwell@vetstream.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:30 AM > > > > To: gathering@misera.net > > > > Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > > > > > Cheers for that > > > > I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them > > > > completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back > > > catalogue > > > > to > > > > work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence > >looking > > > > for > > > > the recording. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: gathering-admin@misera.net > [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On > > > > Behalf Of Rob's Arse > > > > Sent: 10 November 2003 10:20 > > > > To: gathering@misera.net > > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Reading '86 > > > > > > > > > > > > Lucy > > > > > > > > There was the BBC released album and I believe that there are a few > > > > recordings floating about of the whole gig. > > > > I don't have the whole gig, but if someone were to send me a copy, I > > > > should > > > > be pleased to host it. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Lucy Cornwell" wrote: > > > > Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where > > >can > > > I > > > > get it (a download would be great!) > > > > > > > > > > > > Lucy > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gathering mailing list > > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gathering mailing list > > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gathering mailing list > > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > > > legally > > > privileged. 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The Health Informatics Service disclaims any > > > liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. > This > > > communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet > > > Enfield > > > & Haringey Health Communities. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > >This communication may contain information that is confidential and > legally > >privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If > >you > >are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of > >distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information > >within > >is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this > >communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and > >destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any > >liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This > >communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet > Enfield > >& Haringey Health Communities. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 12:05:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:05:24 EST Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: <68.374a4e48.2ce0d904@aol.com> I think this is the artical Mr Phillips is refering to.It has some very witty/catty/bitchy remarks form Raven in it which are classics. 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Fucking great band. I'm currently going to London, Aberdeen,= =20 Glasgow, Nottingham and Dublin. That's more than I saw of the Joke! Is=20 that sacrilege? ;-) They're well worth going to see though... Dave At 11:53 10/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway >will tour UK in December > >So go and see them, they are great even if they don't look any good ! :> > >And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > >I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > >Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > >04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK >09.12 Newport - TJs - UK >10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO >11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO >12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK >13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms =AD UK >14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE >15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail snakker ditt spr=E5k!=20 >http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=3Ddasp/lang.asp - F=E5 Hotmail= p=E5=20 >norsk i dag > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 12:54:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:54:47 +0100 Subject: [kj] OTG Message-ID: <71aa03471a9f08.71a9f0871aa034@iol.cz> For me OTG is fine=2E I like it vry much and I think it is in general lin= e with the rest of KJ albums=2E Rap is good too=2E It is an innovation=2E= The way Jaz does rap is not a typical rap=2C but is reasonably good and = suits well in the song in my view=2E I also like the lyrics on OTG very much=2E For me KJ are doing the same thing all the time=2C just each album emphas= izes different face of their music and as such it is all good for me=2E That is probably why I see every each time different KJ album as their be= st =2E=2E=2E with partial exception of Pandemonium which is my least favo= urite but with some excellent songs on it=2E I think it is a shame that they do not play any songs from OTG and BTATS = on the tour=2E It would complement more heavy songs that they play on the= tour very well in my view and make the whole set even more diverse and i= nteresting=2E PAVEL ----- P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va ----- Od=3A kate=2Epalmer=40blueyonder=2Eco=2Euk Datum=3A pond=ECl=ED=2C 10=2E listopadu 2003 v 1=3A25 odp P=F8edm=ECt=3A =5Bkj=5D OTG =3E =3E =3E =3E =3EIs that hte spoken word one=3F =3E =3E =3E =3EOh no =2E =2E =2E tis much worse than that =3Ao) =3E =3E =3E =3ESomeone will be along shortly to berate me = =3E for bringing the memory of the =3E =3Ealbum up again =2E =2E =2E =3E = =3E = =3E I dunno=2C it=27s worth listening to once just = =3E for the comedy value=2C especially Jaz=27s = =3E attempt at a rap=2E You will be screaming to = =3E make it stop by the end though=2E Not for the = =3E faint hearted! =3E = =3E From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 13:51:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:51:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] HELLFIRE CLUB Message-ID: <20031110135146.93E078065@sitemail.everyone.net> Anyone got an MP3s of this? I remember that a single came out but i could never find it. _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 14:23:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:23:19 -0500 Subject: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics Message-ID: <346F3273.53EDAA18.398839F0@aol.com> Awesome lyrics--nice to read anti-war stuff in this day. Are they KJ songs? If so, from what record (or what year)--I've never heard of them,and I thought I had all the KJ records. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 14:27:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:27:24 -0000 Subject: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF11C@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >I'm not sure if these have been posted before but some kind soul has posted >them up on The Gathering Message Board : The Inferno lyrics seem to be a bit out . . . I'm guessing someone in Japan listened to the track and scribbled down what he heard :o) Marc . > -----Original Message----- > From: Antoni Adamiak [SMTP:antoni@clara.net] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:54 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics > > I'm not sure if these have been posted before but some kind soul has > posted > them up on The Gathering Message Board : > > Posted by Michael on November 10, 2003 at 03:44:10: (66.81.68.88) > > For the person looking for these lyrics... from my Japanese CD: > > http://www.misera.net/gathering/board/messages/4554.html > > ZENNON > > Slow the procession that moves down > The road as they mourn > Hearts that are heavy > No burden unloaded > No resolution > No retribution > The madness must stop now > No No > Whisper the dead to the living > They can't hear it's cold > > But in the sadness that pierces my heart > Seeds we sow > And in the end all we have is each other > Zennon (x4) > > Molded by computer archetypes > Killing is fun > Nervous the young boy his first job > He lifts up his gun > Victims of circumstance > Products of what we've begun > Wide open mouths as the killer > He knows what he's done > > But in the sadness that pierces my heart > Seeds we sow > And in the end all we have is each other > Zennon (x4) > > But in the sadness that pierces my heart > Seeds we sow > And in the end all we have is each other > Zennon (x4) > > http://www.misera.net/gathering/board/messages/4553.html > > INFERNO > > Southern countries > Come in 20 chains > When the dust picks the dust > All the things are crossed insane > And my skin, feel my skin > Getting melanoma > Scorcher scorcher > Tell me when it's over > Tell me when the nightmare's over > > Drop shell bomb > Inferno > Drop shell bomb > Inferno > > Brother brother kill brother now > Mother mother I'm alone > Mother mother my love is gone > What's happened at my home > Father father kill son > Cousin cousin why? > Father father ... my head > Father father just offer my wife > > Fire your home > Inferno > Drop shell bomb > Inferno > > Fuckin' situation > You're a sociopath > With the best intention > Leaders that bleed us > Shit on your descendants > Eyes flying in the sky > Eyeing the triangle > Talk good on the phone > Everything is wrong > And my mind turns black > And my mind turns black > And my mind turns black > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > Fire your home > Inferno > Drop shell bomb > Inferno > Fire your home > Inferno > Drop shell bomb > Inferno > > ***************************** > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. 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------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C3A76C.F5A2CE60-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 14:29:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:29:25 -0000 Subject: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF11D@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Are they KJ songs? If so, from what record (or what year)-- They're the two extra tracks from the new album Greg . . Zennon was available on the UK DVD single for Loose Cannon & Inferno is an extra track tacked onto the end of the UK version of the album. They're both on the Jap version as well . . Hope that helps Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: GregSlawson@aol.com [SMTP:GregSlawson@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:23 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics > > Awesome lyrics--nice to read anti-war stuff in this day. Are they KJ > songs? If so, from what record (or what year)--I've never heard of > them,and I thought I had all the KJ records. > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 14:30:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:30:22 -0500 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: <61279181.594643D7.398839F0@aol.com> Welcome aboard! It's never to late to party for the apocolypse. (Wouldn't that make a good KJ song title? Actually, I think their next album should be called "Rituals for the Apocolyse". Also, I saw them in the US with a sarcastic friend of mine last month, and after the show, while I was reconstructing the set list, he made up silly fake song titles--he makes fun of everything). I'll send them out tonite. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 14:31:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:31:13 -0500 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: <15C0855C.50D74D4D.398839F0@aol.com> Except, the lyrics on "Outside the Gate" are decent, esp. the song "America". From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 14:46:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:46:11 +0000 Subject: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics Message-ID: > > >I'm not sure if these have been posted before but some kind soul has >posted > >them up on The Gathering Message Board : > >The Inferno lyrics seem to be a bit out . . . I'm guessing someone in Japan >listened to the track and scribbled down what he heard :o) > >From what I know, this is right. I read a horrible example once. On the first W.A.S.P. record the was this song called *LOVE MACHINE* and the smart japnanes managed to write 'My Love To Seen' Didn't even bother to read the song title So don't trust these lyrics to been official Arvid > > > > I'm not sure if these have been posted before but some kind soul has > > posted > > them up on The Gathering Message Board : > > > > Posted by Michael on November 10, 2003 at 03:44:10: (66.81.68.88) > > > > For the person looking for these lyrics... from my Japanese CD: > > > > http://www.misera.net/gathering/board/messages/4554.html > > > > ZENNON > > > > Slow the procession that moves down > > The road as they mourn > > Hearts that are heavy > > No burden unloaded > > No resolution > > No retribution > > The madness must stop now > > No No > > Whisper the dead to the living > > They can't hear it's cold > > > > But in the sadness that pierces my heart > > Seeds we sow > > And in the end all we have is each other > > Zennon (x4) > > > > Molded by computer archetypes > > Killing is fun > > Nervous the young boy his first job > > He lifts up his gun > > Victims of circumstance > > Products of what we've begun > > Wide open mouths as the killer > > He knows what he's done > > > > But in the sadness that pierces my heart > > Seeds we sow > > And in the end all we have is each other > > Zennon (x4) > > > > But in the sadness that pierces my heart > > Seeds we sow > > And in the end all we have is each other > > Zennon (x4) > > > > http://www.misera.net/gathering/board/messages/4553.html > > > > INFERNO > > > > Southern countries > > Come in 20 chains > > When the dust picks the dust > > All the things are crossed insane > > And my skin, feel my skin > > Getting melanoma > > Scorcher scorcher > > Tell me when it's over > > Tell me when the nightmare's over > > > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > > > Brother brother kill brother now > > Mother mother I'm alone > > Mother mother my love is gone > > What's happened at my home > > Father father kill son > > Cousin cousin why? > > Father father ... my head > > Father father just offer my wife > > > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > > > Fuckin' situation > > You're a sociopath > > With the best intention > > Leaders that bleed us > > Shit on your descendants > > Eyes flying in the sky > > Eyeing the triangle > > Talk good on the phone > > Everything is wrong > > And my mind turns black > > And my mind turns black > > And my mind turns black > > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > > > ***************************** > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > >This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally >privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If >you >are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of >distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information >within >is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this >communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and >destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any >liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This >communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield >& Haringey Health Communities. > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail snakker ditt språk! http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail på norsk i dag From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 14:51:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:51:42 -0500 Subject: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics Message-ID: <3167A201.49604A57.398839F0@aol.com> Thanks--time to pilfer the import sections of Virgin and Tower Records in Boston! The US version has a new recording of Wardance as the 11 th track--is that on the UK version also? From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 14:54:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:54:14 -0000 Subject: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF120@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >The US version has a new recording of Wardance as the 11 th track--is that on the >UK version also? No, we got that on the Loose Cannon DVD instead . . . > -----Original Message----- > From: GregSlawson@aol.com [SMTP:GregSlawson@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:52 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] "Inferno" and "Zennon" lyrics > > Thanks--time to pilfer the import sections of Virgin and Tower Records in > Boston! The US version has a new recording of Wardance as the 11 th > track--is that on the UK version also? > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 15:40:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?=) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:40:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20031110154005.43923.qmail@web86109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > > INFERNO > > > > Southern countries > > Come in 20 chains > > When the dust picks the dust > > All the things are crossed insane > > And my skin, feel my skin > > Getting melanoma > > Scorcher scorcher > > Tell me when it's over > > Tell me when the nightmare's over > > > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > SLASH AND BURN!!!!! INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Brother brother kill brother now > > Mother mother I'm alone > > Mother mother my love is gone > > What's happened at my home > > Father father kill son > > Cousin cousin why? > > Father father ... my head > > Father father just offer my wife > > > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > > > Fuckin' situation Fuckin' idiots > > You're a sociopath > > With the best intention > > Leaders that bleed us > > Shit on your descendants > > Eyes flying in the sky > > Eyeing the triangle I spy in the sky Eye in the triangle > > Talk good on the phone Don't talk on the phone > > Everything is wrong > > And my mind turns black > > And my mind turns black > > And my mind turns black > > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > Leeches in my BIG MAC > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 15:45:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:45:07 -0000 Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF121@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> > > Father father just offer my wife Father don't lust after my wife > > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > >Leeches in my BIG MAC Faeces in my Big Mac (that's what I hear anyway) Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Graeme Rowland [SMTP:crackedmachine@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:40 PM > To: Gathering@misera.net > Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! > > > > INFERNO > > > > > > Southern countries > > > Come in 20 chains > > > When the dust picks the dust > > > All the things are crossed insane > > > And my skin, feel my skin > > > Getting melanoma > > > Scorcher scorcher > > > Tell me when it's over > > > Tell me when the nightmare's over > > > > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > > > SLASH AND BURN!!!!! > INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Brother brother kill brother now > > > Mother mother I'm alone > > > Mother mother my love is gone > > > What's happened at my home > > > Father father kill son > > > Cousin cousin why? > > > Father father ... my head > > > Father father just offer my wife > > > > > > Fire your home > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > > > > Fuckin' situation > > Fuckin' idiots > > > > You're a sociopath > > > With the best intention > > > Leaders that bleed us > > > Shit on your descendants > > > Eyes flying in the sky > > > Eyeing the triangle > > I spy in the sky > Eye in the triangle > > > > Talk good on the phone > > Don't talk on the phone > > > > Everything is wrong > > > And my mind turns black > > > And my mind turns black > > > And my mind turns black > > > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > > > > Leeches in my BIG MAC > > > > Fire your home > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > Fire your home > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > > > > ===== > Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine > http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine > > "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? 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From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 15:48:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?=) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:48:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] "Zennon" In-Reply-To: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF11D@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <20031110154832.58486.qmail@web86108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Zennon was available on the UK DVD single for Loose > Cannon & Inferno is an > extra track tacked onto the end of the UK version of > the album. > Why couldn't Zuma have put out a 7" of Seeing Red w/ Zennon on the b-side? Much as I love KJ I'm not going to buy a fucking Sony DVD player just to listen one song! Melt Banana kicked ass!!! GROWLand ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 15:52:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?=) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:52:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF121@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> Message-ID: <20031110155208.88255.qmail@web86111.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --- Phillipps Marc wrote: > > > Father father just offer my wife > > Father don't lust after my wife > or maybe "You're just after my wife!" > > > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > > > > >Leeches in my BIG MAC > > Faeces in my Big Mac (that's what I hear anyway) > Its well known that mucky donlads do put cow shit in their foul concoctions > Marc. ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 15:57:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:57:06 -0000 Subject: [kj] "Zennon" Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF122@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Much as I love KJ I'm not going to buy a fucking Sony >DVD player just to listen one song! You can get a cheapo DVD for =A330 these days . . . with the proposed = Live DVD coming out (and the number of old and obscure films available at silly prices) there isn't really an excuse not to get one now :o) Marc.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Graeme Rowland [SMTP:crackedmachine@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:49 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: RE: [kj] "Zennon"=20 >=20 > > Zennon was available on the UK DVD single for Loose > > Cannon & Inferno is an > > extra track tacked onto the end of the UK version of > > the album.=20 > >=20 >=20 > Why couldn't Zuma have put out a 7" of Seeing Red w/ > Zennon on the b-side? >=20 > Much as I love KJ I'm not going to buy a fucking Sony > DVD player just to listen one song! >=20 > Melt Banana kicked ass!!! > GROWLand >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine > http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine >=20 > "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert >=20 > = ________________________________________________________________________= > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? 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From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 18:55:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Will E Scheipers) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:55:54 -0800 Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20031110.105554.736.0.Wscheip1@juno.com> I still liked the line "Feces in my Big Mac" That's what I hear every time. From, Will On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:40:05 +0000 (GMT) =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= writes: > > > INFERNO > > > > > > Southern countries > > > Come in 20 chains > > > When the dust picks the dust > > > All the things are crossed insane > > > And my skin, feel my skin > > > Getting melanoma > > > Scorcher scorcher > > > Tell me when it's over > > > Tell me when the nightmare's over > > > > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > > > SLASH AND BURN!!!!! > INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Brother brother kill brother now > > > Mother mother I'm alone > > > Mother mother my love is gone > > > What's happened at my home > > > Father father kill son > > > Cousin cousin why? > > > Father father ... my head > > > Father father just offer my wife > > > > > > Fire your home > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > > > > Fuckin' situation > > Fuckin' idiots > > > > You're a sociopath > > > With the best intention > > > Leaders that bleed us > > > Shit on your descendants > > > Eyes flying in the sky > > > Eyeing the triangle > > I spy in the sky > Eye in the triangle > > > > Talk good on the phone > > Don't talk on the phone > > > > Everything is wrong > > > And my mind turns black > > > And my mind turns black > > > And my mind turns black > > > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > > > > Leeches in my BIG MAC > > > > Fire your home > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > Fire your home > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > > > > ===== > Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine > http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine > > "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE > Yahoo! > Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 16:08:26 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?=) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:08:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OTG In-Reply-To: <9FE192059320CD4A976B93BC929B5725019807F4@ECOWV05M.Telewest.Internal> Message-ID: <20031110160826.74560.qmail@web86103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Was America intentionally some kind of parody of Jump by Van Halen? Stay One Jump Ahead is by some great distance the worst ever KJ song. Hard to believe they could leave aweseom trax like Four Stations & Fanatic unreleased when that nasty little blemish erupted!!! Quite like the title track and one about the god in the eyes of the child though. --- kate.palmer@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > > > > >Is that hte spoken word one? > > > >Oh no . . . tis much worse than that :o) > > > >Someone will be along shortly to berate me for > bringing the memory of the > >album up again . . . > > > I dunno, it's worth listening to once just for the > comedy value, especially Jaz's attempt at a rap. > You will be screaming to make it stop by the end > though. Not for the faint hearted! > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/ms-tnef name=winmail.dat ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 16:11:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:11:17 EST Subject: [kj] Re: [ja] Radio 1 Message-ID: <1ac.1cabd10a.2ce112a5@aol.com> Jave's Addiction did two session tracks on Mark & Lard's Radio 1 show today.There was a third track recorded they were unable to play. They said the session will be avaliable on the BBC Radio 1 website if anyone wants to hear it. In my opinion it was well worth listening to. Lyle From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 16:15:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mistress Raevyn) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Reading '86 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031110161554.12872.qmail@web13006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-600033787-1068480954=:12002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I missed 'em in the 80's myself...the only thing left for me to hear is the bootlegs and see the vids, I can't download anything which makes it a wee bit more difficult for me, but I'll figure it out. Cheers, Tanya Lucy Cornwell wrote: Cheers for that I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue to work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence looking for the recording. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: 10 November 2003 10:20 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Reading '86 Lucy There was the BBC released album and I believe that there are a few recordings floating about of the whole gig. I don't have the whole gig, but if someone were to send me a copy, I should be pleased to host it. --- "Lucy Cornwell" wrote: Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where can I get it (a download would be great!) 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I missed 'em in the 80's myself...the only thing left for me to hear is the bootlegs and see the vids, I can't download anything which makes it a wee bit more difficult for me, but I'll figure it out.
 
Cheers,
Tanya

Lucy Cornwell <lucy.cornwell@vetstream.com> wrote:
Cheers for that
I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them
completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue to
work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence looking for
the recording.

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Lucy

There was the BBC released album and I believe that there are a few
recordings floating about of the whole gig.
I don't have the whole gig, but if someone were to send me a copy, I should
be pleased to host it.


--- "Lucy Cornwell" wrote:
Hi folks are there any recordings of Reading '86 out there and where can I
get it (a download would be great!)


Lucy

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-600033787-1068480954=:12002-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 16:20:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:20:01 EST Subject: [kj] Re: [ja] Radio 1 Message-ID: <9.1bf32fed.2ce114b1@aol.com> Jave's Addiction? Who the fuck are they? Sorry my dyslexia got the better of me there. Jave's Addiction, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Lyle From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 16:26:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:26:31 -0000 Subject: [kj] OTG Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF123@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Was America intentionally some kind of parody of Jump >by Van Halen? No, it's just a crappy 80's synth preset I think (whilst Jump's keyboard sound was much fatter thanks to the use of an OBXa) >Stay One Jump Ahead is by some great distance the >worst ever KJ song. Good riff though . . . Marc (still thinks Obsession is a good song) > -----Original Message----- > From: Graeme Rowland [SMTP:crackedmachine@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:08 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OTG > > Was America intentionally some kind of parody of Jump > by Van Halen? > > Stay One Jump Ahead is by some great distance the > worst ever KJ song. > > Hard to believe they could leave aweseom trax like > Four Stations & Fanatic unreleased when that nasty > little blemish erupted!!! > > Quite like the title track and one about the god in > the eyes of the child though. > > > --- kate.palmer@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: > > > > > >Is that hte spoken word one? > > > > > >Oh no . . . tis much worse than that :o) > > > > > >Someone will be along shortly to berate me for > > bringing the memory of the > > >album up again . . . > > > > > > I dunno, it's worth listening to once just for the > > comedy value, especially Jaz's attempt at a rap. > > You will be screaming to make it stop by the end > > though. Not for the faint hearted! > > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/ms-tnef > name=winmail.dat > > > ===== > Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine > http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine > > "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! > Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 16:28:26 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:28:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] Re: [ja] Radio 1 In-Reply-To: <9.1bf32fed.2ce114b1@aol.com> from "MADELYLE@aol.com" at Nov 10, 2003 11:20:01 AM Message-ID: <200311101628.hAAGSQn2013210@basil.jkm.net> > Jave's Addiction? Who the fuck are they? > Sorry my dyslexia got the better of me there. > Jave's Addiction, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Are you sure you're not craving Java's Addiction? It is a Monday you know. Though oh yeah, it's far past morning in the UK ;-) From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 16:37:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:37:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: <7649875.1068482229664.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Saw them in London during the summer and was one of the best gigs I've seen for years. Top notch hard punk rockin' in a Ramones style, with the added bonus of them being Norwegian. And gay. (Are they all gay? Or just some of them?) Anyway, highly recommended N > from: Arvid Mork > date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:53:05 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > will tour UK in December > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don't look any good ! :> > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms ? UK > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > > -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 16:45:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:45:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OTG In-Reply-To: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF123@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> from "Phillipps Marc" at Nov 10, 2003 04:26:31 PM Message-ID: <200311101645.hAAGjDkD013355@basil.jkm.net> > Marc (still thinks Obsession is a good song) As in the Animanics?! From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 16:48:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:48:40 -0000 Subject: [kj] OTG Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF125@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >> Marc (still thinks Obsession is a good song) >As in the Animanics?! ?? :o) > -----Original Message----- > From: amyr@jump.net [SMTP:amyr@jump.net] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:45 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] OTG > > > Marc (still thinks Obsession is a good song) > > As in the Animanics?! > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 17:46:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:46:45 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: >Saw them in London during the summer and was one of the best gigs I've seen >for years. Top notch hard punk rockin' in a Ramones style, with the added >bonus of them being Norwegian. And gay. (Are they all gay? Or just some of >them?) No, they are not gay. It's just an image, most of them are married and have childern Arvid (Norway) ps: we even have better bands in Norway f.ex. Gluecifer, Mensen and Launderettes _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail snakker ditt språk! http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail på norsk i dag From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 18:20:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (George Papadopoulos) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:20:11 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - bands from norway Message-ID: Hi there Turbonegro rule.... unfortunately I never had the opportunity to see them live other cool bands from norway are Ved Buens Ende and Ulver. Anyone familiar with them? G. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 04:58:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Pat Tofield) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:58:29 -0800 Subject: [kj] loose cannon live In-Reply-To: <20031110101016.981617259@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <000001c3a810$75f41760$790aa8c0@PATRICK> There is actually.....someone posted it not so long ago.....sorry don't remember who... I'll upload the rest a bit later... Pat -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:10 AM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: RE: [kj] loose cannon live Cheers Pat Is there a whole gig to match? Ta --- "Pat Tofield" wrote: http://www.latenitelabs.com/pats/12loosecannon.zip enjoy... Pat -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Rob's Arse Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:54 AM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] loose cannon live Anyone got a copy of this please? Jiri mentioned that there was a version from Manchester which I must have missed. Ta. _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 19:14:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:14:33 -0000 Subject: [kj] Reading '86 Message-ID: <7D368CED82B7A44FAB699FBB41CC92120738600B@i2km02-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A7BE.DFA69B19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its nice to hear we are getting some new converts. I was converted by an older friend when I was 13, and managed to convert = some of my ex-boyfriends. In turn they have converted their partners. Welcome to the Killing Joke Cult. Its your duty to convert the = Heathens........ ( or follow the Leaders, I am sure someone else can = come up with a more humouros pun) Lucy said "I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back = catalogue to work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence looking = for the recording." ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A7BE.DFA69B19 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Its nice to hear we are getting some new = converts.
I was=20 converted by an older friend when I was 13, and managed to convert some = of my=20 ex-boyfriends.
In turn they have converted their = partners.


Welcome = to the Killing=20 Joke Cult.  Its your duty to convert the Heathens........ ( or = follow the=20 Leaders,  I am sure someone else can come up with a = more humouros=20 pun)




Lucy said

"I have to confess I'm only a = recent=20 convert, somehow I missed them
completely in the 80s, but it does = mean I've=20 got an entire back catalogue to
work my way through now ;-D My = partner saw=20 them at Reading hence looking for
the=20 recording."

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A7BE.DFA69B19-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 19:24:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:24:12 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - bands from norway Message-ID: > >Hi there > >Turbonegro rule.... >unfortunately I never had the opportunity to see them live >other cool bands from norway are Ved Buens Ende and Ulver. Anyone familiar >with them? > He he, talking about Norwegian Metal bands : Best Norwegian (Folk) Metal Band (This Year) : http://www.lumsk.com/ follow link for music and video Best Norwegian metal Band (Last Ten Years) : http://www.enslaved.no/ he he, now what is happening with Killing Joke these days ? Arvid (Norway) _________________________________________________________________ Last ned nye MSN Messenger 6.0 gratis http://www.msn.no/computing/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom deg og dine venner From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 19:42:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:42:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OTG In-Reply-To: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF125@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> from "Phillipps Marc" at Nov 10, 2003 04:48:40 PM Message-ID: <200311101942.hAAJg2dK014418@basil.jkm.net> > >> Marc (still thinks Obsession is a good song) > > >As in the Animanics?! > > > > ?? > > :o) ACK!!!!! My kids are obviously on my mind (I've been nursing 24/7 since they're sick....) AniMOTION. Animaniacs is a (rather crap) American cartoon. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:07:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:07:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request In-Reply-To: <000001c3a810$75f41760$790aa8c0@PATRICK> Message-ID: <20031110200706.99815.qmail@web86108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1685363476-1068494826=:98816 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think). Has anyone got this? It's been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again! Cheers rich --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1685363476-1068494826=:98816 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think).  Has anyone got this?  It's been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again!
 
Cheers
 
rich

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1685363476-1068494826=:98816-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:09:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christophe Barry) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:09:45 +0100 Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request References: <20031110200706.99815.qmail@web86108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007001c3a7c6$9649ad80$5ffda8c0@SACHA> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C3A7CE.F7B37260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As I can remember, brilliant is on 'Unspeakable' complicalition ----- Original Message -----=20 From: bluce ree=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:07 PM Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think). Has anyone got this? It's = been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy jazz = chords and I'm fiending to here it again! Cheers =20 rich -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! = Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C3A7CE.F7B37260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As I can remember, brilliant is on = 'Unspeakable'=20 complicalition
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 bluce=20 ree
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 = 9:07=20 PM
Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 = request

As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think).  Has anyone got=20 this?  It's been years since I've heard it but I can still = remember the=20 cheesy jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again!
 
Cheers
 
rich

Want to chat instantly with your online=20 friends? Get=20 the FREE Yahoo! Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C3A7CE.F7B37260-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:10:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:10:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: <1335930.1068495022500.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Good image! Have heard Gluecifer - they also rock N > from: Arvid Mork > date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:46:45 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > No, they are not gay. > It's just an image, > most of them are married and have childern > > Arvid (Norway) > > ps: we even have better bands in Norway > f.ex. Gluecifer, Mensen and Launderettes -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:13:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:13:19 -0000 Subject: [kj] converts References: <7D368CED82B7A44FAB699FBB41CC92120738600B@i2km02-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net> Message-ID: <00ce01c3a7c7$162415e0$d7887ed4@mydomain.com> No need for any puns ... people just need to open their eyes ... I guess when the Joke first appeared there were plenty of other groups ranting and raving ... beyond the too frequent fuck/fuck/fuck lyrics and prototype crusty image, it was Crass who really set the ball rolling for me ... as a 15 year old I used to see Crass (and Adam And The Ants !) graffiti all over the buses in West London ... via the likes of Bloody Revolutions & Feeding Of The 5,000 I was quickly became *aware* if not a total "anarcho-" convert. Later in the summer of 1980 I picked up a fanzine with a large Killing Joke feature so curiously I got to see the lyrics to both Wardance & Pssyche before I'd even heard the songs ... I didn't have to wait very long though. Even now, I'm totally blown away by the lyrics to these songs, especially Pssyche ... * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:14 PM Subject: RE: [kj] Reading '86 Its nice to hear we are getting some new converts. I was converted by an older friend when I was 13, and managed to convert some of my ex-boyfriends. In turn they have converted their partners. Welcome to the Killing Joke Cult. Its your duty to convert the Heathens........ ( or follow the Leaders, I am sure someone else can come up with a more humouros pun) Lucy said "I have to confess I'm only a recent convert, somehow I missed them completely in the 80s, but it does mean I've got an entire back catalogue to work my way through now ;-D My partner saw them at Reading hence looking for the recording." From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:17:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:17:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] Re: Bad Message-ID: <4081516C.4B8E1CE6.00166308@aol.com> > The sound was totally fucked live, though. I think it was during Blood > on your hands, the feedback from the bass was drowning out > everything. > So they had to I ran into some friends a few days ago that were at the KJ DC show. I didnt realize they were there as I didnt see them. They werent really fans but more curiosity seekers as they have heard me mention them over the years. I was suprised they went. They said they thought the show was pathetic and laughable. They left halfway through. Kind of sucks. I felt bad but oh well.. guess we have been looking at some of these shows with rose colored lenses and even with those, not so hot- but those with no thoughts either way, it seems the joke has been a joke in some cases. From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:31:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:31:00 -0000 Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request References: <20031110200706.99815.qmail@web86108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <013e01c3a7c9$8ed2f180$73af883e@mycomputer> Cheesy Jazz chords? It's been a while since I've heard it too, but are you getting the track Brilliant confused with the Cheesy group "Brilliant"? And before I forget, there's an interview with Andy Gill this next Thursday with Andrew Colling 6 Music (digital) at 4 pm. I don't know if there's web casts, probably. > As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think). Has anyone got this? It's been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again! > > Cheers > > rich > > > --------------------------------- > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:35:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:35:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request In-Reply-To: <013e01c3a7c9$8ed2f180$73af883e@mycomputer> Message-ID: <20031110203520.57850.qmail@web86102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1114904092-1068496520=:57285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit yep cheesy! but glorious. Stephen Robinson wrote:Cheesy Jazz chords? It's been a while since I've heard it too, but are you getting the track Brilliant confused with the Cheesy group "Brilliant"? And before I forget, there's an interview with Andy Gill this next Thursday with Andrew Colling 6 Music (digital) at 4 pm. I don't know if there's web casts, probably. > As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think). Has anyone got this? It's been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again! > > Cheers > > rich > > > --------------------------------- > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1114904092-1068496520=:57285 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
yep cheesy!  but glorious.

Stephen Robinson <heiferboy@robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Cheesy Jazz chords?

It's been a while since I've heard it too, but are you getting the track
Brilliant confused with the Cheesy group "Brilliant"?

And before I forget, there's an interview with Andy Gill this next Thursday
with Andrew Colling 6 Music (digital) at 4 pm. I don't know if there's web
casts, probably.


> As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think). Has anyone got this? It's
been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy jazz
chords and I'm fiending to here it again!
>
> Cheers
>
> rich
>
>
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1114904092-1068496520=:57285-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:42:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:42:12 -0500 Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request/tab References: <20031110200706.99815.qmail@web86108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <007001c3a7c6$9649ad80$5ffda8c0@SACHA> Message-ID: <032601c3a7cb$1ed9dd60$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0323_01C3A7A1.358E5740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the chord would have it's base in a D9th chord - just the three high = notes.=20 if you can't hear it immediately, play the song yourself. here is the = basic brilliant riff in D standard tuning: d: 5 567 7765 5 454 5 a: 5 555 5555 5 444 5 f: 5 555 5555 5 444 5 C:------------------------------------- G:------------------------------------- D:-------------------------------------- it's sick and brilliant!=20 =20 todd ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Christophe Barry=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request As I can remember, brilliant is on 'Unspeakable' complicalition ----- Original Message -----=20 From: bluce ree=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:07 PM Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think). Has anyone got this? = It's been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy = jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again! Cheers =20 rich -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! = Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_0323_01C3A7A1.358E5740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
the chord would have it's base in a D9th = chord =20 - just the three high notes. 
if you can't hear it immediately, play the song = yourself. here=20 is the basic brilliant riff in D standard=20 tuning:
 
d: 5    567   7765  = 5 =20 454  5
a: 5    555   = 5555  5 =20 444  5
f:  5   =20 555   5555  5  444  5
C:-------------------------------------
G:-------------------------------------
D:--------------------------------------
 
 
it's sick and brilliant!
 
todd
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Christophe Barry =
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 = 3:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant mp3 = request

As I can remember, brilliant is on = 'Unspeakable'=20 complicalition
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 bluce ree
Sent: Monday, November 10, = 2003 9:07=20 PM
Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3=20 request

As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think).  Has anyone got = this?  It's been years since I've heard it but I can still = remember the=20 cheesy jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again!
 
Cheers
 
rich

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------=_NextPart_000_0323_01C3A7A1.358E5740-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:47:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:47:32 -0000 Subject: [kj] HELLFIRE CLUB Message-ID: <7D368CED82B7A44FAB699FBB41CC921205864170@i2km02-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net> Hellfire club I am pretty sure I have the 12 inch single at home.=20 I am away from home though, and wouldnt know where to start to make it = into an MP3. Mik/Rob/ anyone,=20 If you got simple instructions, software advice etc on best way to make = Vinyl into mp3,=20 please email me off line. Lisa.gannon@bt.com From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:53:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:53:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request/tab In-Reply-To: <032601c3a7cb$1ed9dd60$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> from "fluw" at Nov 10, 2003 03:42:12 PM Message-ID: <200311102053.hAAKrWaJ015014@basil.jkm.net> > the chord would have it's base in a D9th chord - just the three high notes. > if you can't hear it immediately, play the song yourself. here is the basic brilliant riff in D standard tuning: Shows you why I'm a bass player -- from looking at the tab, *every* string is tuned down a step (whole note), not just the stereotypical grunge "dropped E" or "dropped D" which tunes only the low E string down, right? From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 20:54:55 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:54:55 -0500 Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request/tab References: <20031110200706.99815.qmail@web86108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <007001c3a7c6$9649ad80$5ffda8c0@SACHA> <032601c3a7cb$1ed9dd60$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <033c01c3a7cc$e574a620$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0339_01C3A7A2.FC30C120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable make that E flat standard tuning - at least that is the key my guitar = was in at the time i nicked it.=20 although it is possible geordie was playing in E flat standard, = especially since it was 1982. If this is the case, just move the riff = down to the forth for E flat tuning, or third fret position if you are = tuned to E standard.=20 todd =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: fluw=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request/tab the chord would have it's base in a D9th chord - just the three high = notes.=20 if you can't hear it immediately, play the song yourself. here is the = basic brilliant riff in D standard tuning: d: 5 567 7765 5 454 5 a: 5 555 5555 5 444 5 f: 5 555 5555 5 444 5 C:------------------------------------- G:------------------------------------- D:-------------------------------------- it's sick and brilliant!=20 todd ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Christophe Barry=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request As I can remember, brilliant is on 'Unspeakable' complicalition ----- Original Message -----=20 From: bluce ree=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:07 PM Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think). Has anyone got this? = It's been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy = jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again! Cheers =20 rich -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE = Yahoo! Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_0339_01C3A7A2.FC30C120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
make that E flat standard tuning - at = least that is=20 the key my guitar was in at the time i nicked = it. 
 
although it is possible geordie was playing in = E flat=20 standard, especially since it was 1982. If this is the case, just move = the=20 riff down to the forth for E flat tuning, or third fret position if = you are tuned to E standard. 
 
 
 
 
todd
 
 
   
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 fluw=20
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 = 3:42=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant mp3 = request/tab

the chord would have it's base in a D9th = chord  - just the three high notes. 
if you can't hear it immediately, play the song = yourself.=20 here is the basic brilliant riff in D standard=20 tuning:
 
d: 5    567   7765  = 5 =20 454  5
a: 5    555   = 5555 =20 5  444  5
f:  5   =20 555   5555  5  444  5
C:-------------------------------------
G:-------------------------------------
D:--------------------------------------
 
 
it's sick and brilliant!
 
todd
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Christophe Barry =
Sent: Monday, November 10, = 2003 3:09=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant = mp3=20 request

As I can remember, brilliant is on=20 'Unspeakable' complicalition
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 bluce ree
Sent: Monday, November 10, = 2003 9:07=20 PM
Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 = request

As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think).  Has anyone = got=20 this?  It's been years since I've heard it but I can still = remember=20 the cheesy jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again!
 
Cheers
 
rich

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------=_NextPart_000_0339_01C3A7A2.FC30C120-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 21:08:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:08:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request/tab In-Reply-To: <032601c3a7cb$1ed9dd60$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031110210815.20046.qmail@web86107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1111377720-1068498495=:19222 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit respect is actively jewish cheers fluw wrote: the chord would have it's base in a D9th chord - just the three high notes. if you can't hear it immediately, play the song yourself. here is the basic brilliant riff in D standard tuning: d: 5 567 7765 5 454 5 a: 5 555 5555 5 444 5 f: 5 555 5555 5 444 5 C:------------------------------------- G:------------------------------------- D:-------------------------------------- it's sick and brilliant! todd ----- Original Message ----- From: Christophe Barry To: gathering@misera.net Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request As I can remember, brilliant is on 'Unspeakable' complicalition ----- Original Message ----- From: bluce ree To: gathering@misera.net Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:07 PM Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think). Has anyone got this? It's been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again! Cheers rich --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1111377720-1068498495=:19222 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
respect is actively jewish
 
cheers

fluw <fluwdot@earthlink.net> wrote:
the chord would have it's base in a D9th chord  - just the three high notes. 
if you can't hear it immediately, play the song yourself. here is the basic brilliant riff in D standard tuning:
 
d: 5    567   7765  5  454  5
a: 5    555   5555  5  444  5
f:  5    555   5555  5  444  5
C:-------------------------------------
G:-------------------------------------
D:--------------------------------------
 
 
it's sick and brilliant!
 
todd
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request

As I can remember, brilliant is on 'Unspeakable' complicalition
----- Original Message -----
From: bluce ree
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:07 PM
Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request

As in the b-side to Empire Song (i think).  Has anyone got this?  It's been years since I've heard it but I can still remember the cheesy jazz chords and I'm fiending to here it again!
 
Cheers
 
rich

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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1111377720-1068498495=:19222-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 21:18:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:18:56 -0500 Subject: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request/tab References: <200311102053.hAAKrWaJ015014@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: <034d01c3a7d0$40b2c640$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_034A_01C3A7A6.57674020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable right, amy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Amy Moseley Rupp=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant mp3 request/tab > the chord would have it's base in a D9th chord - just the three = high notes.=20 > if you can't hear it immediately, play the song yourself. here is = the basic brilliant riff in D standard tuning: Shows you why I'm a bass player -- from looking at the tab, *every* string is tuned down a step (whole note), not just the stereotypical grunge "dropped E" or "dropped D" which tunes only the low E string=20 down, right? _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_034A_01C3A7A6.57674020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
right, amy
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Amy Moseley = Rupp
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 = 3:53=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Brilliant mp3 = request/tab

> the chord would have it's base in a D9th = chord  -=20 just the three high notes.
> if you can't hear it immediately, = play the=20 song yourself. here is the basic brilliant riff in D standard=20 tuning:

Shows you why I'm a bass player -- from looking at the = tab,=20 *every*
string is tuned down a step (whole note), not just the=20 stereotypical
grunge "dropped E" or "dropped D"  which tunes = only the=20 low E string
down,=20 right?
_______________________________________________
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_034A_01C3A7A6.57674020-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 22:12:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:12:51 EST Subject: [kj] Re: Bad Message-ID: <1ee.12fa1632.2ce16763@aol.com> From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 22:17:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:17:19 EST Subject: [kj] Re: Bad Message-ID: <107.286d7735.2ce1686f@aol.com> --part1_107.286d7735.2ce1686f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went with a few friends, all of whom had seen Joke before (one a week earlier in London, one in '94, and one in the early 80s). All 3 were fairly dissappointed. I guess the sound (at least in the US) has been poor, the sets not always long enough, and the band's stage presence, dress, and (lack of ) stage props has been disappointing. In recent interviews, Jaz seems really pleased with the tour, and has said he doesn't care about attendance. I know the Jokesters are capable of better shows ('94 and '81 were great). Let's hope they're back in 2004 with a better tour, and let's enjoy the new album until then. As promised, cynical friend's KJ song titles: --part1_107.286d7735.2ce1686f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I went with a few friends, all of whom had seen Joke b= efore (one a week earlier in London, one in '94, and one in the early 80s).=20= All 3 were fairly dissappointed. I guess the sound (at least in the US) has&= nbsp; been poor, the sets not always long enough, and the band's stage prese= nce, dress, and (lack of ) stage props has been disappointing. In recent int= erviews, Jaz seems really pleased with the tour, and has said he doesn't car= e about attendance. I know the Jokesters are capable of better shows ('94 an= d '81 were great). Let's hope they're back in 2004 with a better tour, and l= et's enjoy the new album until then.

As promised, cynical friend's KJ song titles:
 --part1_107.286d7735.2ce1686f_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 22:20:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:20:04 EST Subject: [kj] Re: Bad Message-ID: <1d8.1411e022.2ce16914@aol.com> --part1_1d8.1411e022.2ce16914_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, my email is spastic. Joke song titles for the Joke: Hammer of Destiny Dark Island of Sorrow Bloodlust Bloody Finger of the West (appropriate in these war times) Extreme Angst Invalids of Squalor and the new album...Rituals for the Apocalypse --part1_1d8.1411e022.2ce16914_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, my email is spastic. Joke song titles for the J= oke:
Hammer of Destiny
Dark Island of Sorrow
Bloodlust
Bloody Finger of the West (appropriate in these war times)
Extreme Angst
Invalids of Squalor

and the new album...Rituals for the Apocalypse --part1_1d8.1411e022.2ce16914_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 10 22:53:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:53:02 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] OT - bands from norway In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031110234348.O28044-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Arvid Mork wrote: > Best Norwegian (Folk) Metal Band (This Year) : > http://www.lumsk.com/ Oh? I know their bass player, he's a little prat, and i wasn't too impressed with what i have heard so far. Asmegin is supposedly way better in that genre. > Best Norwegian metal Band (Last Ten Years) : > http://www.enslaved.no/ http://www.redharvestplanet.com/ - album of the year 2002. b From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 02:39:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:39:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <20031110154005.43923.qmail@web86109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031111023917.97631.qmail@web80403.mail.yahoo.com> --0-208547793-1068518357=:96753 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think it's "Torch and burn!!", actually. (but I've been wrong before) ; ) T-minus 2 days and counting 'til Slim's!!........ Tom. Graeme Rowland wrote: > > INFERNO > > > > Southern countries > > Come in 20 chains > > When the dust picks the dust > > All the things are crossed insane > > And my skin, feel my skin > > Getting melanoma > > Scorcher scorcher > > Tell me when it's over > > Tell me when the nightmare's over > > > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > SLASH AND BURN!!!!! INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Brother brother kill brother now > > Mother mother I'm alone > > Mother mother my love is gone > > What's happened at my home > > Father father kill son > > Cousin cousin why? > > Father father ... my head > > Father father just offer my wife > > > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > > > Fuckin' situation Fuckin' idiots > > You're a sociopath > > With the best intention > > Leaders that bleed us > > Shit on your descendants > > Eyes flying in the sky > > Eyeing the triangle I spy in the sky Eye in the triangle > > Talk good on the phone Don't talk on the phone > > Everything is wrong > > And my mind turns black > > And my mind turns black > > And my mind turns black > > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > Leeches in my BIG MAC > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --0-208547793-1068518357=:96753 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I think it's "Torch and burn!!", actually.   (but I've been wrong before)  ; )
 
T-minus 2 days and counting 'til Slim's!!........
 
Tom.
 
 
 


Graeme Rowland <crackedmachine@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > INFERNO
> >
> > Southern countries
> > Come in 20 chains
> > When the dust picks the dust
> > All the things are crossed insane
> > And my skin, feel my skin
> > Getting melanoma
> > Scorcher scorcher
> > Tell me when it's over
> > Tell me when the nightmare's over
> >
> > Drop shell bomb
> > Inferno
> > Drop shell bomb
> > Inferno
> >

SLASH AND BURN!!!!!
INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > Brother brother kill brother now
> > Mother mother I'm alone
> > Mother mother my love is gone
> > What's happened at my home
> > Father father kill son
> > Cousin cousin why?
> > Father father ... my head
> > Father father just offer my wife
> >
> > Fire your home
> > Inferno
> > Drop shell bomb
> > Inferno
> >
> > Fuckin' situation

Fuckin' idiots

> > You're a sociopath
> > With the best intention
> > Leaders that bleed us
> > Shit on your descendants
> > Eyes flying in the sky
> > Eyeing the triangle

I spy in the sky
Eye in the triangle

> > Talk good on the phone

Don't talk on the phone

> > Everything is wrong
> > And my mind turns black
> > And my mind turns black
> > And my mind turns black
> > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac
> >

Leeches in my BIG MAC

> > Fire your home
> > Inferno
> > Drop shell bomb
> > Inferno
> > Fire your home
> > Inferno
> > Drop shell bomb
> > Inferno
> >


=====
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--0-208547793-1068518357=:96753-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 03:15:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (P Bernardi) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:15:21 -0500 Subject: [kj] Re: Bad References: <4081516C.4B8E1CE6.00166308@aol.com> Message-ID: <3FB05449.4090703@erols.com> --------------040504020200060301030707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Different Strokes, i guess. I've chatted with all the bartenders who were in attendance @ the DC show. All of them gave the Joke a positive review. They've seen tons of bands over the years and were pretty excited that KJ were coming to their club. If there's anyone's opinion I was concerned about its theirs - we converse about live shows every time I see them out. On a related side note - 2 years ago Black Motorcycle Rebel Club and Murder City Devils played a show together. I thought BMRC was boring, generic and a total snoozefest w/ nothing to say. Murder City Devils were visually entertaining, powerfully impressive and tight. Just about every damn time I wear my MCDevil shirt some chix will come up to me and ask if I was at that show and then proceed to tell me how BMRC was so much better. bah! Devacor@aol.com wrote: > > >>The sound was totally fucked live, though. I think it was during Blood >>on your hands, the feedback from the bass was drowning out >>everything. >>So they had to >> >> > >I ran into some friends a few days ago that were at the KJ DC show. I didnt realize they were there as I didnt see them. They werent really fans but more curiosity seekers as they have heard me mention them over the years. I was suprised they went. > They said they thought the show was pathetic and laughable. They left halfway through. >Kind of sucks. I felt bad but oh well.. >guess we have been looking at some of these shows with rose colored lenses and even with those, not so hot- but those with no thoughts either way, it seems the joke has been a joke in some cases. >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > --------------040504020200060301030707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Different Strokes, i guess.

I've chatted with all the bartenders who were in attendance @ the DC show. All of them gave the Joke a positive review. They've seen tons of bands over the years and were pretty excited that KJ were coming to their club. If there's anyone's opinion I was concerned about its theirs - we converse about live shows every time I see them out.

On a related side note - 2 years ago Black Motorcycle Rebel Club and Murder City Devils played a show together. I thought BMRC was boring, generic and a total snoozefest w/ nothing to say. Murder City Devils were visually entertaining, powerfully impressive and tight.  Just about every damn time I wear my MCDevil shirt some chix will come up to me and ask if I was at that show and then proceed to tell me how BMRC was so much better.  bah!




Devacor@aol.com wrote:
  
The sound was totally fucked live, though. I think it was during Blood 
on your hands, the feedback from the bass was drowning out 
everything. 
So they had to
    

I ran into some friends a few days ago that were at the KJ DC show. I didnt realize they were there as I didnt see them. They werent really fans but more curiosity seekers as they have heard me mention them over the years. I was suprised they went.
 They said they thought the show was pathetic and laughable. They left halfway through. 
Kind of sucks. I felt bad but oh well..
guess we have been looking at some of these shows with rose colored lenses and even with those, not so hot- but those with no thoughts either way, it seems the joke has been a joke in some cases.
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--------------040504020200060301030707-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 03:44:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (culture.virus) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:44:38 -0800 Subject: [kj] Nov 9th Seattle show report Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20031110184920.029e8460@127.0.0.1> I'm not sure why the reports I have read slagged Amen because I thought they were pretty good. They don't break any new ground but their brand of punk rock mixed with glam swagger kept the kiddies in the crowd entertained and the old guys I talked to seemed to enjoy them as well. This was my first show since being in on the Joke since '82. So needless to say they could have lapped water from a bowl and I would have been thrilled. But I'm happy to say the show was excellent. I won't go into great detail as I'm not particularly verbose. However I will say that Jaz seemed to be in excellent spirits smiling often and sounding pretty happy in his madness. Thanks to Geordie I wasn't the only bald guy in the audience, and he was his usual subdued self. Our beloved bass-ape was more controlled on stage than I expected. The band was tight the entire evening making the whole show seem effortless and celebratory. There were hugs all 'round, a real Rockwellian moment :^) I didn't hang out after the show to try and meet the band, nor did I meet any Gatherer's. I did see one rather nice Pandemonium shirt and met a few folks who were long time fans. Here's the evenings setlist: Communion Requiem Total Invasion Wardance Blood On Your Hands Change Seeing Red Fall Of Because D & R Show The Wait Asteroid Whiteout Frenzy Pssyche Encore: Loose Cannon Pandemonium Your humble reporter: culturevirus From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 03:42:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:42:58 -0500 Subject: [kj] Re: Bad Message-ID: <511A29BB.19CD3089.00166308@aol.com> In a message dated 11/10/2003 10:15:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, phantasmas@erols.com writes: > I've chatted with all the bartenders who were in attendance @ the DC show. All of them gave the Joke a positive review. They've seen tons of bands over the years and were pretty excited that KJ were coming to their club. If there's anyone's opinion I was concerned about its theirs - we converse about live shows every time I see them out. > > On a related side note - 2 years ago Black Motorcycle Rebel Club and Murder City Devils played a show together. I thought BMRC was boring, generic and a total snoozefest w/ nothing to say. Murder City Devils were visually entertaining, powerfully impressive and tight. Just about every damn time I wear my MCDevil shirt some chix will come up to me and ask if I was at that show and then proceed to tell me how BMRC was so > much better. bah! I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 04:00:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (P Bernardi) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:00:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] Re: Bad References: <511A29BB.19CD3089.00166308@aol.com> Message-ID: <3FB05EE9.2000709@erols.com> --------------020704030300060606090704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've seen there that had really great sound there was the Chameleons and the New Model Army acoustic show. Devacor@AOL.COM wrote: >> >> > >I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > --------------020704030300060606090704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've seen there that had really great sound there was the Chameleons and the New Model Army acoustic show.

Devacor@AOL.COM wrote:
    

I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it
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--------------020704030300060606090704-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 04:10:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:10:17 -0500 Subject: [kj] Re: Bad Message-ID: <7075CBA8.033E83A9.00166308@aol.com> > Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've seen there that had really great sound there was the > Chameleons and the New Model Army acoustic show. I saw red house painters there in late 90's and sound was good. Saw slowdive in the early 90's and I dont remember sound being bad either. I guess some bands have better luck then others there. From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 05:02:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (DG) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro References: Message-ID: <006901c3a811$093c6810$11effea9@BRAINSAW> "even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. Nothing close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arvid Mork" To: Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > will tour UK in December > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don't look any good ! :> > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail snakker ditt språk! > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail på > norsk i dag > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 05:38:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (P Bernardi) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:38:35 -0500 Subject: [kj] Re: Bad References: <7075CBA8.033E83A9.00166308@aol.com> Message-ID: <3FB075DB.5050109@erols.com> --------------000703060004050300020102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I should have explained more in depth, Im just bitchin about the new location - something about the acoustics. The old space I thought generally had pretty good sound. I also recall Red house painters in mid 90s sounding really good. Devacor@aol.com wrote: > > >>Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've seen there that had really great sound there was the >>Chameleons and the New Model Army acoustic show. >> >> > >I saw red house painters there in late 90's and sound was good. Saw slowdive in the early 90's and I dont remember sound being bad either. I guess some bands have better luck then others there. >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > --------------000703060004050300020102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I should have explained more in depth, Im just bitchin about the new location - something about the acoustics. The old space I thought generally had pretty good sound. I also recall Red house painters in mid 90s sounding really good.

Devacor@aol.com wrote:
  
Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've seen there that had really great sound there was the 
Chameleons and the New Model Army acoustic show.
    

I saw red house painters there in late 90's and sound was good. Saw slowdive in the early 90's and I dont remember sound being bad either. I guess some bands have better luck then others there. 
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--------------000703060004050300020102-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 07:53:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (tim rosa) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 23:53:50 -0800 Subject: [kj] kj vancouver show Message-ID: Didn't think I'd make it... but ticket is in hand for the Vancouver show tomorrow eve. A good cozy venue from the sounds of it. 2 newbies are coming with me so it should be more than interesting watching their reaction. I have to say that there are some great reviews from list members so far. I'll have to finish reading Alex's impressively lengthy report before I push off for the show. pushing down the pre show spring, tim --- ICQ#19192777 http://scumware.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Enter now for a chance to win a 42" Plasma Television! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda1.com/1/c/563632/113422/313631/313631 AOL users go here: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda1.com/1/c/563632/113422/313631/313631 This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 10:50:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bob Barathy) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:50:11 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT Bush or chimp? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3A841.9462A820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good medicine on a gloomy day... http://www.bushorchimp.com/pics.html Bob ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3A841.9462A820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good = medicine on a=20 gloomy day...
http://www.bushorchimp.com/= pics.html
 
Bob
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3A841.9462A820-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 10:55:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:55:25 -0000 Subject: [kj] Re: OT (Black Cat) Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCF3@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A842.4F8B4AE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I expect NMA had one of their long-time regular roadies with them, and = they are reknowned for being perfectionists over sound - to the extent = they drive local crews to distraction ;-) Never, Ever watch an NMA = soundcheck -- they are mind-numbingly tedious and last for hours... =20 I've never seen the Chameleons do a gig with poor sound either, so maybe = the story is similar for them. =20 Apart from good sound, how were both gigs? What did they play? =20 Jane -----Original Message----- From: P Bernardi [mailto:phantasmas@erols.com] Sent: 11 November 2003 04:01 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Re: Bad Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible = when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've seen there that = had really great sound there was the Chameleons and the New Model Army = acoustic show. Devacor@AOL.COM wrote: =20 I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen = them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned = werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the = were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band = thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out = for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. = They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A842.4F8B4AE4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 expect NMA had one of their long-time regular roadies with them, and = they are=20 reknowned for being perfectionists over sound - to the extent they drive = local=20 crews to distraction ;-) Never, Ever watch an NMA soundcheck -- they are = mind-numbingly tedious and last for hours...
 
I've=20 never seen the Chameleons do a gig with poor sound either, so maybe the = story is=20 similar for them.
 
Apart=20 from good sound, how were both gigs? What did they = play?
 
Jane
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Sent: 11 November 2003=20 04:01
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] = Re:=20 Bad

Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. = Turbonegro=20 sounded horrible when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands = I've seen=20 there that had really great sound there was the Chameleons and the New = Model=20 Army acoustic show.

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I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen =
them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned =
werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the =
were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band =
thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out =
for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. =
They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A842.4F8B4AE4-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 11:42:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:42:21 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT Bush or chimp? Message-ID: <730b7ea7308d15.7308d15730b7ea@iol.cz> poor monkies=2E=2E=2E being compared with Bush=3F ----- P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va ----- Od=3A Bob Barathy =3Cbob=40bbarathy=2Eplus=2Ecom=3E Datum=3A =FAter=FD=2C 11=2E listopadu 2003 v 11=3A50 dop P=F8edm=ECt=3A =5Bkj=5D OT Bush or chimp=3F =3E Good medicine on a gloomy day=2E=2E=2E =3E http=3A//www=2Ebushorchimp=2Ecom/pics=2Ehtml =3E = =3E Bob From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 12:41:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fat potanga) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:41:17 +0000 Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! Message-ID: It's both. The chorus is: Slash and burn - inferrrrno Torch and burn - inferrrrno I also hear 'faeces in my Big Mac.' Why do I find that sentence funny...? BTW, anyone else not getting all messages? I see replies with text from email that's never arrived, if you gte my drift? ----Original Message Follows---- From: Thomas Kennedy Reply-To: gathering@misera.net To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:39:17 -0800 (PST) I think it's "Torch and burn!!", actually. (but I've been wrong before) ; ) T-minus 2 days and counting 'til Slim's!!........ Tom. Graeme Rowland wrote: > > INFERNO > > > > Southern countries > > Come in 20 chains > > When the dust picks the dust > > All the things are crossed insane > > And my skin, feel my skin > > Getting melanoma > > Scorcher scorcher > > Tell me when it's over > > Tell me when the nightmare's over > > > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > SLASH AND BURN!!!!! INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Brother brother kill brother now > > Mother mother I'm alone > > Mother mother my love is gone > > What's happened at my home > > Father father kill son > > Cousin cousin why? > > Father father ... my head > > Father father just offer my wife > > > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > > > Fuckin' situation Fuckin' idiots > > You're a sociopath > > With the best intention > > Leaders that bleed us > > Shit on your descendants > > Eyes flying in the sky > > Eyeing the triangle I spy in the sky Eye in the triangle > > Talk good on the phone Don't talk on the phone > > Everything is wrong > > And my mind turns black > > And my mind turns black > > And my mind turns black > > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > Leeches in my BIG MAC > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > Fire your home > > Inferno > > Drop shell bomb > > Inferno > > ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 13:20:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:20:05 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was excellent. I am the denim demon Chris >From: "DG" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. >Nothing >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Arvid Mork" >To: >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > > will tour UK in December > > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don't look any good ! :> > > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > > > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > > > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail snakker ditt språk! > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail >på > > norsk i dag > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 13:46:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:46:50 -0500 Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <457C632F.762DDEED.0004DF86@aol.com> Yeah, been happening to me for months. I'd always assumed it was AOL. Jamie "fat potanga" writes: >BTW, anyone else not getting all messages? >I see replies with text from email that's never arrived, if you gte my >drift? > From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 13:52:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:52:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031111135214.74099.qmail@web86101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-591628313-1068558734=:73270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates 'Turbs' as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a bit Darknessy but with a better singer. I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. Christof hamille wrote: they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was excellent. I am the denim demon Chris >From: "DG" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. >Nothing >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Arvid Mork" >To: >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > > will tour UK in December > > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don't look any good ! :> > > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > > > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > > > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail snakker ditt språk! > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail >på > > norsk i dag > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? 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Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates 'Turbs' as his favourite band.  Even going to Norway to see them.
 
I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about.  Musically they're a bit Darknessy but with a better singer.
 
I'll stick with Mars Volta I think.

Christof hamille <wessidetempest@hotmail.com> wrote:
they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was excellent.

I am the denim demon

Chris


>From: "DG"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To:
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800
>
>"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good.
>Nothing
>close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Arvid Mork"
>To:
>Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53
>Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
>
>
> >
> > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway
> > will tour UK in December
> >
> > So go and see them, they are great even if they don't look any good ! :>
> >
> > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :>
> >
> > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller
> >
> > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever)
> >
> >
> > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO
> > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO
> > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK
> > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK
> > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO
> > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO
> > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK
> > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK
> > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE
> > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Hotmail snakker ditt språk!
> > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail
>på
> > norsk i dag
> >
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-591628313-1068558734=:73270-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 17:00:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Will E Scheipers) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:00:51 -0800 Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <20031111.090052.636.2.Wscheip1@juno.com> I think its Slash and burn-Inferno and then I think the Japanese lyrics are right Drop Shell Bomb-Inferno From, Will On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:41:17 +0000 "fat potanga" writes: > It's both. > The chorus is: > Slash and burn - inferrrrno > Torch and burn - inferrrrno > > I also hear 'faeces in my Big Mac.' > Why do I find that sentence funny...? > > BTW, anyone else not getting all messages? > I see replies with text from email that's never arrived, if you gte > my > drift? > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Thomas Kennedy > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:39:17 -0800 (PST) > > I think it's "Torch and burn!!", actually. (but I've been wrong > before) ; > ) > > T-minus 2 days and counting 'til Slim's!!........ > > Tom. > > > > > > Graeme Rowland wrote: > > > INFERNO > > > > > > Southern countries > > > Come in 20 chains > > > When the dust picks the dust > > > All the things are crossed insane > > > And my skin, feel my skin > > > Getting melanoma > > > Scorcher scorcher > > > Tell me when it's over > > > Tell me when the nightmare's over > > > > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > > > SLASH AND BURN!!!!! > INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Brother brother kill brother now > > > Mother mother I'm alone > > > Mother mother my love is gone > > > What's happened at my home > > > Father father kill son > > > Cousin cousin why? > > > Father father ... my head > > > Father father just offer my wife > > > > > > Fire your home > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > > > > Fuckin' situation > > Fuckin' idiots > > > > You're a sociopath > > > With the best intention > > > Leaders that bleed us > > > Shit on your descendants > > > Eyes flying in the sky > > > Eyeing the triangle > > I spy in the sky > Eye in the triangle > > > > Talk good on the phone > > Don't talk on the phone > > > > Everything is wrong > > > And my mind turns black > > > And my mind turns black > > > And my mind turns black > > > Cause there's seizures in my Big Mac > > > > > Leeches in my BIG MAC > > > > Fire your home > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > Fire your home > > > Inferno > > > Drop shell bomb > > > Inferno > > > > > > ===== > Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine > http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine > > "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? 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Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 14:20:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:20:15 -0000 Subject: [kj] Missing emails Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCF7@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> I've also noticed a number of threads where I've only got replies... -----Original Message----- From: Jpwhkj@aol.com [mailto:Jpwhkj@aol.com] Sent: 11 November 2003 13:47 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! Yeah, been happening to me for months. I'd always assumed it was AOL. Jamie "fat potanga" writes: >BTW, anyone else not getting all messages? >I see replies with text from email that's never arrived, if you gte my=20 >drift? > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 14:25:28 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Andreas Misera) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:25:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <457C632F.762DDEED.0004DF86@aol.com> Message-ID: i sometimes miss mails from certain people, and always find them in my JUNK folder - thanks to my spam filter. you might wanna check that... -a. On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 Jpwhkj@aol.com wrote: > Yeah, been happening to me for months. > > I'd always assumed it was AOL. > > Jamie > > > "fat potanga" writes: > > >BTW, anyone else not getting all messages? > >I see replies with text from email that's never arrived, if you gte my > >drift? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > ******************************************************* Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" ******************************************************* From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 14:31:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:31:25 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro In-Reply-To: <20031111135214.74099.qmail@web86101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20031111142735.02f63a48@pop3.norton.antivirus> No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo= =20 are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of=20 all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!! When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates=20 coming up? Dave At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates 'Turbs'= =20 >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. > >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a= =20 >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. > >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. > >Christof hamille wrote: >they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was excellent. > >I am the denim demon > >Chris > > > > >From: "DG" > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >To: > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > > > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. > >Nothing > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Arvid Mork" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > > > > > > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > > > will tour UK in December > > > > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any good= =20 > ! :> > > > > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > > > > > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > > > > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > > > > > > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail snakker ditt spr=E5k! > > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=3Ddasp/lang.asp - F=E5= Hotmail > >p=E5 > > > norsk i dag > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_________________________________________________________________ >Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. >https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends?=20 >Get=20 >the FREE Yahoo! Messenger From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 14:34:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:34:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: <1396595.1068561265623.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Hmmm... not sure what you've heard, but Turbonegro do not sound like The Dorkness! Admittedly the last LP included a ballad, but there's more full-on raging punk 'n' roll in there than anything else N > from: =?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?= > date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:52:14 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a bit Darknessy but with a better singer. -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 15:13:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (P Bernardi) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:13:40 -0500 Subject: [kj] Re: OT (Black Cat) References: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCF3@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> Message-ID: <3FB0FCA4.1070608@erols.com> --------------000904090607000904040607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both excellent gigs. The Chameleons played a loooooong set and pretty much brought out every song one needed to hear (except Mad Jack and In Answer). Intrigue in Tangiers was a stunner and Dont Fall + Up the Down Escalator were encores. Definitely one of my favorite concerts ever. I did catch Mark Burgess on his acoustic tour this past summer. He played a good balance of well known tunes and obscure songs (The Healer, Solo Stuff, and some which I've never heard before). NMA - I wasnt feeling too well and had to miss a couple tunes to get fresh air. Was way too hot in the club. I heard NMA had requested the air conditioner be turned off - dont know if thats true or not. Im not as well versed with NMA as I am w/ the Joke - so, I cant recall specific titles but I recognized a couple of songs (from Thunder and Ghost of Cain). Some new material was played that sounded very good. Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 wrote: > I expect NMA had one of their long-time regular roadies with them, and > they are reknowned for being perfectionists over sound - to the extent > they drive local crews to distraction ;-) Never, Ever watch an NMA > soundcheck -- they are mind-numbingly tedious and last for hours... > > I've never seen the Chameleons do a gig with poor sound either, so > maybe the story is similar for them. > > Apart from good sound, how were both gigs? What did they play? > > Jane > > -----Original Message----- > From: P Bernardi [mailto:phantasmas@erols.com] > Sent: 11 November 2003 04:01 > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Re: Bad > > Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded > horrible when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've > seen there that had really great sound there was the Chameleons > and the New Model Army acoustic show. > > Devacor@AOL.COM wrote: > >>> >>> >> >>I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering@misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> >> > --------------000904090607000904040607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both excellent gigs. The Chameleons played a loooooong set and pretty much brought out every song one needed to hear (except Mad Jack and In Answer).  Intrigue in Tangiers was a stunner and Dont Fall + Up the Down Escalator were encores. Definitely one of my favorite concerts ever.

I did catch Mark Burgess on his acoustic tour this past summer.  He played a good balance of well known tunes and obscure songs (The Healer, Solo Stuff, and some which I've never heard before).  

NMA - I wasnt feeling too well and had to miss a couple tunes to get fresh air. Was way too hot in the club. I heard NMA had requested the air conditioner be turned off - dont know if thats true or not.  Im not as well versed with NMA as I am w/ the Joke - so, I cant recall specific titles but I recognized a couple of songs (from Thunder and Ghost of Cain). Some new material was played that sounded very good.





Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 wrote:
I expect NMA had one of their long-time regular roadies with them, and they are reknowned for being perfectionists over sound - to the extent they drive local crews to distraction ;-) Never, Ever watch an NMA soundcheck -- they are mind-numbingly tedious and last for hours...
 
I've never seen the Chameleons do a gig with poor sound either, so maybe the story is similar for them.
 
Apart from good sound, how were both gigs? What did they play?
 
Jane
-----Original Message-----
From: P Bernardi [mailto:phantasmas@erols.com]
Sent: 11 November 2003 04:01
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Re: Bad

Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've seen there that had really great sound there was the Chameleons and the New Model Army acoustic show.

Devacor@AOL.COM wrote:
    

I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it
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--------------000904090607000904040607-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 15:47:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:47:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20031111142735.02f63a48@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: <20031111154705.33932.qmail@web86110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1725994459-1068565625=:33176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... still it's just my opinion. Anyway. He's been to see them out there a few times I think and is going back soon. He was just at the Brighton show also. gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!! When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates coming up? Dave At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates 'Turbs' >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. > >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. > >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. > >Christof hamille wrote: >they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was excellent. > >I am the denim demon > >Chris > > > > >From: "DG" > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >To: > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > > > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. > >Nothing > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Arvid Mork" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > > > > > > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > > > will tour UK in December > > > > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any good > ! :> > > > > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > > > > > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > > > > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > > > > > > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail snakker ditt språk! > > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail > >på > > > norsk i dag > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_________________________________________________________________ >Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. >https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? >Get >the FREE Yahoo! Messenger _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1725994459-1068565625=:33176 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... still it's just my opinion.
 
Anyway.  He's been to see them out there a few times I think and is going back soon.
 
He was just at the Brighton show also. 
 


gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote:
No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo
are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of
all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!!
When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates
coming up?

Dave




At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates 'Turbs'
>as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them.
>
>I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a
>bit Darknessy but with a better singer.
>
>I'll stick with Mars Volta I think.
>
>Christof hamille wrote:
>they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was excellent.
>
>I am the denim demon
>
>Chris
>
>
>
> >From: "DG"
> >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
> >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800
> >
> >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good.
> >Nothing
> >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Arvid Mork"
> >To:
> >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53
> >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway
> > > will tour UK in December
> > >
> > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any good
> ! :>
> > >
> > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :>
> > >
> > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller
> > >
> > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever)
> > >
> > >
> > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO
> > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO
> > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK
> > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK
> > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO
> > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO
> > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK
> > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK
> > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE
> > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Hotmail snakker ditt språk!
> > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail
> >på
> > > norsk i dag
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Gathering mailing list
> > > Gathering@misera.net
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> > >
> >
> >
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1725994459-1068565625=:33176-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 15:55:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:55:41 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro In-Reply-To: <20031111154705.33932.qmail@web86110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.6.2.20031111142735.02f63a48@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20031111155006.01aed7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> I was just wondering if I knew him... I met a guy at the Kristiansand show= =20 in July 2002 that I'd previously met at the Amsterdam one in 1998... traded= =20 a few vids with him over the years. It's not Jim is it? Another case of=20 small world bizarreness if it is! Dave At 15:47 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... still it's just my opinion. > >Anyway. He's been to see them out there a few times I think and is going= =20 >back soon. > >He was just at the Brighton show also. > > > >gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: >No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo >are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of >all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!! >When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates >coming up? > >Dave > > > > > > > >At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates= 'Turbs' > >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. > > > >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a > >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. > > > >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. > > > >Christof hamille wrote: > >they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was= excellent. > > > >I am the denim demon > > > >Chris > > > > > > > > >From: "DG" > > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > > > > > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. > > >Nothing > > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Arvid Mork" > > >To: > > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 > > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > > > > will tour UK in December > > > > > > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any good > > ! :> > > > > > > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > > > > > > > > I will o fcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > > > > > > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > > > > > > > > > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Hotmail snakker ditt spr=E5k! > > > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=3Ddasp/lang.asp - F=E5= Hotmail > > >p=E5 > > > > norsk i dag > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gathering mailing list > > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Gathering mailing list > > >Gathering@misera.net > > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. > >https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? > >Get > >the FREE Yahoo! Messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends?=20 >Get=20 >the FREE Yahoo! Messenger From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 16:16:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:16:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20031111155006.01aed7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: <20031111161659.34730.qmail@web86109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1061974380-1068567419=:34258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit nope not a trader or a jim. that would have been pretty mad though! gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: I was just wondering if I knew him... I met a guy at the Kristiansand show in July 2002 that I'd previously met at the Amsterdam one in 1998... traded a few vids with him over the years. It's not Jim is it? Another case of small world bizarreness if it is! Dave At 15:47 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... still it's just my opinion. > >Anyway. He's been to see them out there a few times I think and is going >back soon. > >He was just at the Brighton show also. > > > >gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: >No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo >are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of >all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!! >When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates >coming up? > >Dave > > > > > > > >At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates 'Turbs' > >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. > > > >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a > >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. > > > >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. > > > >Christof hamille wrote: > >they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was excellent. > > > >I am the denim demon > > > >Chris > > > > > > > > >From: "DG" > > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > > > > > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. > > >Nothing > > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Arvid Mork" > > >To: > > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 > > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > > > > will tour UK in December > > > > > > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any good > > ! :> > > > > > > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > > > > > > > > I will o fcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > > > > > > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > > > > > > > > > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Hotmail snakker ditt språk! > > > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail > > >på > > > > norsk i dag > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gathering mailing list > > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Gathering mailing list > > >Gathering@misera.net > > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Frustrated with dial-up? 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nope
 
not a trader or a jim.
 
that would have been pretty mad though!

gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote:
I was just wondering if I knew him... I met a guy at the Kristiansand show
in July 2002 that I'd previously met at the Amsterdam one in 1998... traded
a few vids with him over the years. It's not Jim is it? Another case of
small world bizarreness if it is!

Dave








At 15:47 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... still it's just my opinion.
>
>Anyway. He's been to see them out there a few times I think and is going
>back soon.
>
>He was just at the Brighton show also.
>
>
>
>gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote:
>No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo
>are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of
>all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!!
>When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates
>coming up?
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates 'Turbs'
> >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them.
> >
> >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a
> >bit Darknessy but with a better singer.
> >
> >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think.
> >
> >Christof hamille wrote:
> >they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was excellent.
> >
> >I am the denim demon
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "DG"
> > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
> > >To:
> > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
> > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800
> > >
> > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good.
> > >Nothing
> > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Arvid Mork"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53
> > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway
> > > > will tour UK in December
> > > >
> > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any good
> > ! :>
> > > >
> > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :>
> > > >
> > > > I will o fcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller
> > > >
> > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO
> > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO
> > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK
> > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK
> > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO
> > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO
> > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK
> > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK
> > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE
> > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK
> > > >
> > > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > > Hotmail snakker ditt språk!
> > > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail
> > >på
> > > > norsk i dag
> > > >
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1061974380-1068567419=:34258-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 16:28:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:28:16 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro In-Reply-To: <20031111161659.34730.qmail@web86109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.6.2.20031111155006.01aed7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20031111162236.01afd5c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Ah well, nearly! At the Kristiansand gig, out of about 6000 Scandinavian= =20 people, the guy just happened to turn round and ask two of my mates near=20 the front if they could translate what Turbo were saying (it being in=20 Norwegian, natch). He heard their Scottish accented reply, and asked "this= =20 might seem strange but you wouldn't know a Scottish guy that does videos...= =20 Dave..." to which they pointed me out mere feet away. Very bizarre. Lucky= =20 it wasn't some heavy I owed money to! Dave At 16:16 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >nope > >not a trader or a jim. > >that would have been pretty mad though! > >gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: >I was just wondering if I knew him... I met a guy at the Kristiansand show >in July 2002 that I'd previously met at the Amsterdam one in 1998... traded >a few vids with him over the years. It's not Jim is it? Another case of >small world bizarreness if it is! > >Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 15:47 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... still it's just my= opinion. > > > >Anyway. He's been to see them out there a few times I think and is going > >back soon. > > > >He was just at the Brighton show also. > > > > > > > >gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: > >No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo > >are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of > >all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!! > >When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates > >coming up? > > > >Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > > >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates=20 > 'Turbs' > > >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. > > > > > >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're= a > > >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. > > > > > >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. > > > > > >Christof hamille wrote: > > >they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was=20 > excellent. > > > > > >I am the denim demon > > > > > >Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "DG" > > > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > > >To: > > > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > > > > > > > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. > > > >Nothing > > > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Arvid Mork" > > > >To: > > > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 > > > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > > > > > will tour UK in December > > > > > > > > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any= good > > > ! :> > > > > > > > > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > > > > > > > > > > I will o fcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > > > > >> > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > > > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > > > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > > > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > > > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > > > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > > > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > > > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > > > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Hotmail snakker ditt spr=E5k! > > > > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=3Ddasp/lang.asp - F=E5= =20 > Hotmail > > > >p=E5 > > > > > norsk i dag > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Gathering mailing list > > > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Gathering mailing list > > > >Gathering@misera.net > > > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. > > >https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Gathering mailing list > > >Gathering@misera.net > > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? > > >Get > > >the FREE Yahoo! Messenger > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? > >Get > >the FREE Yahoo! Messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends?=20 >Get=20 >the FREE Yahoo! Messenger From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 17:57:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:57:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] (OT) Turbonegro Message-ID: <7580314.1068573431885.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Doh! I forgot about the Turbonegro song 'Are You Ready (For Some Darkness)'... N -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 18:09:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:09:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Bizarre context for Killing Joke In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031111180941.77692.qmail@web80504.mail.yahoo.com> Ran across this article in The New York Times, about "Tracks," some new music magazine (soft listening, it seems). The article includes a truly bizarre quote pasted below...Killing Joke an of-the-moment band like The Rapture?? I confess I rarely read music mag's these days...a "staple of SPIN"??? http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/10/business/media/10tracks.html "The first issue features durable, adult-friendly performers like Sting, Ryan Adams and Robert Plant in a pure music format, one that avoids the broader pop culture sensibilities of more established magazines like Rolling Stone, owned by Wenner Media, and Vibe, owned by Vibe/Spin Ventures. Tracks pays little heed to of-the-moment bands like The Rapture and Killing Joke that are a staple of Spin. And it has none of the cheeky attitude of Blender, a more recent arrival from Dennis Publishing USA, or the teenage sensibility MTV's recently christened magazine." From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 18:15:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:15:52 -0500 Subject: [kj] Bizarre context for Killing Joke Message-ID: <200311111816.hABIGagt005436@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Yeah, this is completely ridiculous (someone posted it on ILM as well). I can't *EVER* remember Killing Joke being even *MENTIONED* in SPIN. And to call them an "of the moment" band blazes new frontiers in ignorance. That said, the article's written by someone who usually writes about business issues, not music, so it's not really worth getting too upset about. Still....very silly. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Jiri >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] Bizarre context for Killing Joke >Date: Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 1:09 PM > >Ran across this article in The New York Times, about >"Tracks," some new music magazine (soft listening, it >seems). > >The article includes a truly bizarre quote pasted >below...Killing Joke an of-the-moment band like The >Rapture?? I confess I rarely read music mag's these >days...a "staple of SPIN"??? > >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/10/business/media/10tracks.html > >"The first issue features durable, adult-friendly >performers like Sting, Ryan Adams and Robert Plant in >a pure music format, one that avoids the broader pop >culture sensibilities of more established magazines >like Rolling Stone, owned by Wenner Media, and Vibe, >owned by Vibe/Spin Ventures. Tracks pays little heed >to of-the-moment bands like The Rapture and Killing >Joke that are a staple of Spin. And it has none of the >cheeky attitude of Blender, a more recent arrival from >Dennis Publishing USA, or the teenage sensibility >MTV's recently christened magazine." > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 18:37:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:37:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Bizarre context for Killing Joke In-Reply-To: <200311111816.hABIGagt005436@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031111183720.68662.qmail@web80503.mail.yahoo.com> Ah, that could explain it, that he's a business reporter. I wonder what brought Killing Joke into his "moment" radar (a closet KJ-fan proofreader?)... Heh, maybe I should be grateful for the publicity, lest some unsuspecting "with-it" people pick it up and say, "Hey, I know The Rapture, now I must check out this hot band Killing Joke!" --- Alex Smith wrote: > > Yeah, this is completely ridiculous (someone posted > it on ILM as well). I > can't *EVER* remember Killing Joke being even > *MENTIONED* in SPIN. And to > call them an "of the moment" band blazes new > frontiers in ignorance. That > said, the article's written by someone who usually > writes about business > issues, not music, so it's not really worth getting > too upset about. > Still....very silly. > > Alex in NYC > > > ---------- > >From: Jiri > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: [kj] Bizarre context for Killing Joke > >Date: Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 1:09 PM > > > > >Ran across this article in The New York Times, > about > >"Tracks," some new music magazine (soft listening, > it > >seems). > > > >The article includes a truly bizarre quote pasted > >below...Killing Joke an of-the-moment band like The > >Rapture?? I confess I rarely read music mag's these > >days...a "staple of SPIN"??? > > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/10/business/media/10tracks.html > > > >"The first issue features durable, adult-friendly > >performers like Sting, Ryan Adams and Robert Plant > in > >a pure music format, one that avoids the broader > pop > >culture sensibilities of more established magazines > >like Rolling Stone, owned by Wenner Media, and > Vibe, > >owned by Vibe/Spin Ventures. Tracks pays little > heed > >to of-the-moment bands like The Rapture and Killing > >Joke that are a staple of Spin. And it has none of > the > >cheeky attitude of Blender, a more recent arrival > from > >Dennis Publishing USA, or the teenage sensibility > >MTV's recently christened magazine." > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 18:37:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:37:15 -0000 Subject: [kj] Re: Bad References: <107.286d7735.2ce1686f@aol.com> Message-ID: <015201c3a884$9dbf1140$f1738751@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C3A882.D422EF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the sound was bad at manchester also but, they're still the most powerfull live act on the planet ----- Original Message -----=20 From: GregSlawson@aol.com=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Re: Bad I went with a few friends, all of whom had seen Joke before (one a = week earlier in London, one in '94, and one in the early 80s). All 3 = were fairly dissappointed. I guess the sound (at least in the US) has = been poor, the sets not always long enough, and the band's stage = presence, dress, and (lack of ) stage props has been disappointing. In = recent interviews, Jaz seems really pleased with the tour, and has said = he doesn't care about attendance. I know the Jokesters are capable of = better shows ('94 and '81 were great). Let's hope they're back in 2004 = with a better tour, and let's enjoy the new album until then. As promised, cynical friend's KJ song titles: ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C3A882.D422EF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
the sound was bad at manchester = also
but, they're still the  most = powerfull=20 live act  on the planet
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [kj] Re: Bad

I went with a few friends, all of whom had seen = Joke before=20 (one a week earlier in London, one in '94, and one in the early 80s). = All 3=20 were fairly dissappointed. I guess the sound (at least in the US) = has =20 been poor, the sets not always long enough, and the band's stage = presence,=20 dress, and (lack of ) stage props has been disappointing. In recent=20 interviews, Jaz seems really pleased with the tour, and has said he = doesn't=20 care about attendance. I know the Jokesters are capable of better = shows ('94=20 and '81 were great). Let's hope they're back in 2004 with a better = tour, and=20 let's enjoy the new album until then.

As promised, cynical = friend's KJ=20 song titles:
 ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C3A882.D422EF60-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 20:04:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:04:56 -0000 Subject: [kj] Nov 9th Seattle show report References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031110184920.029e8460@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <000e01c3a892$1c730f20$53a9883e@mycomputer> > folks who were long time fans. Here's the evenings setlist: > > Communion > Requiem > Total Invasion > Wardance > Blood On Your Hands > Change > Seeing Red > Fall Of Because > D & R Show > The Wait > Asteroid > Whiteout > Frenzy > Pssyche > > Encore: > Loose Cannon > Pandemonium Hmm.. I wonder what the track listing of this double live CD will be like. From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 21:27:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Michele Marchesan) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:27:47 +0100 Subject: [kj] Re: OT (Black Cat) References: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CCF3@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> <3FB0FCA4.1070608@erols.com> Message-ID: <00d601c3a89a$a7e2e280$8400000a@tmg32> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C3A8A3.09089980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the chameleons (in manchester, 25/09 last year, where you there Jane?) = have been the best gig of my life so far... the sound was great indeed = also if the rockworld is not the best place to play... great sound, = great band! M. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: P Bernardi=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Re: OT (Black Cat) Both excellent gigs. The Chameleons played a loooooong set and pretty = much brought out every song one needed to hear (except Mad Jack and In = Answer). Intrigue in Tangiers was a stunner and Dont Fall + Up the Down = Escalator were encores. Definitely one of my favorite concerts ever.=20 I did catch Mark Burgess on his acoustic tour this past summer. He = played a good balance of well known tunes and obscure songs (The Healer, = Solo Stuff, and some which I've never heard before). =20 NMA - I wasnt feeling too well and had to miss a couple tunes to get = fresh air. Was way too hot in the club. I heard NMA had requested the = air conditioner be turned off - dont know if thats true or not. Im not = as well versed with NMA as I am w/ the Joke - so, I cant recall specific = titles but I recognized a couple of songs (from Thunder and Ghost of = Cain). Some new material was played that sounded very good. Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 wrote: I expect NMA had one of their long-time regular roadies with them, = and they are reknowned for being perfectionists over sound - to the = extent they drive local crews to distraction ;-) Never, Ever watch an = NMA soundcheck -- they are mind-numbingly tedious and last for hours... I've never seen the Chameleons do a gig with poor sound either, so = maybe the story is similar for them. Apart from good sound, how were both gigs? What did they play? Jane -----Original Message----- From: P Bernardi [mailto:phantasmas@erols.com] Sent: 11 November 2003 04:01 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Re: Bad Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded = horrible when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've seen = there that had really great sound there was the Chameleons and the New = Model Army acoustic show. Devacor@AOL.COM wrote: =20 I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen = them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned = werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the = were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band = thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out = for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. = They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C3A8A3.09089980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
the chameleons (in manchester, 25/09 = last year,=20 where you there Jane?) have been the best gig of my life so far... the = sound was=20 great indeed also if the rockworld is not the best place to play... = great sound,=20 great band!
 
M.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, = 2003 4:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Re: OT (Black = Cat)

Both excellent gigs. The Chameleons played a loooooong = set and=20 pretty much brought out every song one needed to hear (except Mad Jack = and In=20 Answer).  Intrigue in Tangiers was a stunner and Dont Fall + Up = the Down=20 Escalator were encores. Definitely one of my favorite concerts ever. =

I=20 did catch Mark Burgess on his acoustic tour this past summer.  He = played=20 a good balance of well known tunes and obscure songs (The Healer, Solo = Stuff,=20 and some which I've never heard before).  

NMA - I wasnt = feeling=20 too well and had to miss a couple tunes to get fresh air. Was way too = hot in=20 the club. I heard NMA had requested the air conditioner be turned off = - dont=20 know if thats true or not.  Im not as well versed with NMA as I = am w/ the=20 Joke - so, I cant recall specific titles but I recognized a couple of = songs=20 (from Thunder and Ghost of Cain). Some new material was played that = sounded=20 very good.





Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 = wrote:
I=20 expect NMA had one of their long-time regular roadies with them, and = they=20 are reknowned for being perfectionists over sound - to the extent = they drive=20 local crews to distraction ;-) Never, Ever watch an NMA soundcheck = -- they=20 are mind-numbingly tedious and last for = hours...
 
I've never seen the Chameleons do a gig with poor sound = either, so=20 maybe the story is similar for them.
 
Apart from good sound, how were both gigs? What did they=20 play?
 
Jane
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Yeah, Black Cat generally has = crappy=20 sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible when I checked them out awhile = back.=20 Only two bands I've seen there that had really great sound there = was the=20 Chameleons and the New Model Army acoustic show.

Devacor@AOL.COM wrote:
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I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen =
them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned =
werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the =
were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band =
thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out =
for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. =
They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it
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= ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C3A8A3.09089980-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 11 23:56:44 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:56:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta Message-ID: <20031111235644.50268.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> gee, hard choice.. Los Angeles, nov. 14: The Alarm, at the Knitting Factory Firewater, at the Troubador killing joke, at the El Rey ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 00:57:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:57:35 -0500 Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta References: <20031111235644.50268.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01c3a8b7$f6e9b9e0$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3A88E.0D536F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you will have plenty of time to get to fuckin firewater or alarm gigs = after grandpa coleman takes his bow in time for nighty night. many 2003 = US kj shows are over by 11 tops =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: sade1=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta gee, hard choice.. =20 Los Angeles, nov. 14: The Alarm, at the Knitting Factory Firewater, at the Troubador killing joke, at the El Rey =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out=20 of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3A88E.0D536F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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      =
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   Firewater, at the Troubador
   = killing=20 joke, at the El Rey


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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3A88E.0D536F20-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 02:05:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:05:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Re: Bad In-Reply-To: <107.286d7735.2ce1686f@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031112020504.34580.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> IS there something up with the US leg o'tour? Overall seems a more "muted" response to it here stateside than across the water, despite a few very good writeups here as of recent. The setlist seems about the same, so it can't be that. saul --- GregSlawson@aol.com wrote: All > 3 were fairly > dissappointed. I guess the sound (at least in the US) has > been poor, the sets not > always long enough, and the band's stage presence, dress, and > (lack of ) stage > props has been disappointing. ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 03:13:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (DG) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:13:12 -0800 Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta References: <20031111235644.50268.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> <000a01c3a8b7$f6e9b9e0$eb8a6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <008d01c3a8ca$e82588e0$11effea9@BRAINSAW> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C3A887.D9B75D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Speaking of............Any pre-show Gathering plans for Fri. show? I'm = gettin' off work early. Anyone??? damebo. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: fluw=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, 11 November, 2003 16:57 Subject: Re: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta you will have plenty of time to get to fuckin firewater or alarm gigs = after grandpa coleman takes his bow in time for nighty night. many 2003 = US kj shows are over by 11 tops =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: sade1=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta gee, hard choice.. =20 Los Angeles, nov. 14: The Alarm, at the Knitting Factory Firewater, at the Troubador killing joke, at the El Rey =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out=20 of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C3A887.D9B75D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Speaking of............Any pre-show = Gathering plans=20 for Fri. show? I'm gettin' off work early. Anyone??? = damebo.
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you will have plenty of time to get to fuckin=20 firewater or alarm gigs after grandpa coleman takes his bow = in time=20 for nighty night. many 2003 US kj shows are over by 11 = tops
 
 
 
 
  
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gee, hard choice..
      =
Los=20 Angeles, nov. 14:
   The Alarm, at the Knitting=20 Factory
   Firewater, at the Troubador
   = killing=20 joke, at the El Rey


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C3A887.D9B75D30-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 03:57:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:57:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Re: Bad In-Reply-To: <20031112020504.34580.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031112035741.31547.qmail@web80512.mail.yahoo.com> I just assumed they have a lighter, less concentrated following over here. Seems those of us stateside are all spread out a little more from one edge of this giant expanse of a country to the other. I haven't met a single KJ fan in my city (aside from those I've baptized myself), and just a couple guys who have given a knowing glance at the t-shirts when I wear them. Add to that the non-existent tour promotion and the fact that so many Americans get their music diet spoonfed to them from Clear Channel...well, these are my assumptions anyway. Jiri --- sade1 wrote: > IS there something up with the US leg o'tour? > Overall seems a > more "muted" response to it here stateside than > across the > water, despite a few very good writeups here as of > recent. > The setlist seems about the same, so it can't be > that. > > saul > > --- GregSlawson@aol.com wrote: > All > > 3 were fairly > > dissappointed. I guess the sound (at least in the > US) has > > been poor, the sets not > > always long enough, and the band's stage presence, > dress, and > > (lack of ) stage > > props has been disappointing. > > ===== > WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > > "Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 04:16:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:16:34 -0500 Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta Message-ID: <200311120417.hAC4HHgt025648@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Wow....that is a hard choice, actually. But, I'm going to suggest the Joke, as ya never know when they'll be back. Firewater, I assure you, WILL be back. And really.....the Alarm? Come now. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: sade1 >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta >Date: Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 6:56 PM > >gee, hard choice.. > >Los Angeles, nov. 14: > The Alarm, at the Knitting Factory > Firewater, at the Troubador > killing joke, at the El Rey > > >===== >WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > >"Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 04:53:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Ford Prefect) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:53:54 -0000 Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta References: <20031111235644.50268.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003401c3a8d8$f97f55e0$decb9151@sn7212787026> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C3A8D8.F929BBD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > The Alarm, at the Knitting Factory they of the 68 guns? knitting factory sounds about right graham ----- Original Message -----=20 From: sade1=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:56 PM Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta gee, hard choice.. =20 Los Angeles, nov. 14: The Alarm, at the Knitting Factory Firewater, at the Troubador killing joke, at the El Rey =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out=20 of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C3A8D8.F929BBD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  > The Alarm, at the Knitting Factory
 
they of the 68 guns?
 
knitting factory sounds about right
 
graham
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Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. = Trifecta

gee, hard choice..
      =
Los=20 Angeles, nov. 14:
   The Alarm, at the Knitting=20 Factory
   Firewater, at the Troubador
   = killing=20 joke, at the El Rey


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
WHO WOULD JESUS = BOMB?

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  of the here and now
  I want to be
  = another=20 here, another..."

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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C3A8D8.F929BBD0-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 05:55:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:55:08 EST Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta Message-ID: <1e6.131503ce.2ce3253c@aol.com> --part1_1e6.131503ce.2ce3253c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DAMEBO(IS IT MR OR MS?) -IM GETTIN OFF WORK AT NOON FRI,I LIVE IN PASADENA AREA.IM BIG LATE 70'S-EARLY 80'S KROQ TYPE MUSIC FAN(REMEMBER WHEN KROQ WAS A GOOD STATION?TWENTY YEARS AGO?) ANYWHO,I BE WILLING TO DO COFFEE,SMOKES AND MAYBE SOME KILLER CHINESE B4 OR AFTER SHOW(DURING OPENING ACT?) I JUST GOT SOME NEW WHEELS,IM LOOKIN FOWARD TO PUTT'N IT TO THE SHOW. I HAVENT READ ALL THE MESGS YET ON THIS SITE,SO ANYBODY IN MY AREA WANT TO HOOK UP OR NEED A RIDE, IT BE COOL ,,, LATER DUDES AND DUEDETTS (OUR MATES IN THE U.K. WILL NEED A TRANSALATOR 4'DIS MESSAGE) --part1_1e6.131503ce.2ce3253c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DAMEBO(IS IT MR OR MS?) -IM GETTIN OFF WORK AT NOON FR= I,I LIVE IN PASADENA AREA.IM BIG LATE 70'S-EARLY 80'S KROQ TYPE MUSIC FAN(RE= MEMBER WHEN KROQ WAS A GOOD STATION?TWENTY YEARS AGO?)
ANYWHO,I BE WILLING TO DO COFFEE,SMOKES AND MAYBE SOME KILLER CHINESE B4 OR=20= AFTER SHOW(DURING OPENING ACT?)
I JUST GOT SOME NEW WHEELS,IM LOOKIN FOWARD TO PUTT'N IT TO THE SHOW.
I HAVENT READ ALL THE MESGS YET ON THIS SITE,SO ANYBODY IN MY AREA WANT TO H= OOK UP OR NEED A RIDE, IT BE COOL ,,, LATER DUDES AND DUEDETTS
(OUR MATES IN THE U.K. WILL NEED A TRANSALATOR 4'DIS MESSAGE) --part1_1e6.131503ce.2ce3253c_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 06:06:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:06:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Trifecta In-Reply-To: <1e6.131503ce.2ce3253c@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031112060642.77706.qmail@web80407.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1270687984-1068617202=:76754 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii : ) tom. Danlbarth@aol.com wrote: DAMEBO(IS IT MR OR MS?) -IM GETTIN OFF WORK AT NOON FRI,I LIVE IN PASADENA AREA.IM BIG LATE 70'S-EARLY 80'S KROQ TYPE MUSIC FAN(REMEMBER WHEN KROQ WAS A GOOD STATION?TWENTY YEARS AGO?) ANYWHO,I BE WILLING TO DO COFFEE,SMOKES AND MAYBE SOME KILLER CHINESE B4 OR AFTER SHOW(DURING OPENING ACT?) I JUST GOT SOME NEW WHEELS,IM LOOKIN FOWARD TO PUTT'N IT TO THE SHOW. I HAVENT READ ALL THE MESGS YET ON THIS SITE,SO ANYBODY IN MY AREA WANT TO HOOK UP OR NEED A RIDE, IT BE COOL ,,, LATER DUDES AND DUEDETTS (OUR MATES IN THE U.K. WILL NEED A TRANSALATOR 4'DIS MESSAGE) --0-1270687984-1068617202=:76754 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
: )
 
tom.

Danlbarth@aol.com wrote:
DAMEBO(IS IT MR OR MS?) -IM GETTIN OFF WORK AT NOON FRI,I LIVE IN PASADENA AREA.IM BIG LATE 70'S-EARLY 80'S KROQ TYPE MUSIC FAN(REMEMBER WHEN KROQ WAS A GOOD STATION?TWENTY YEARS AGO?)
ANYWHO,I BE WILLING TO DO COFFEE,SMOKES AND MAYBE SOME KILLER CHINESE B4 OR AFTER SHOW(DURING OPENING ACT?)
I JUST GOT SOME NEW WHEELS,IM LOOKIN FOWARD TO PUTT'N IT TO THE SHOW.
I HAVENT READ ALL THE MESGS YET ON THIS SITE,SO ANYBODY IN MY AREA WANT TO HOOK UP OR NEED A RIDE, IT BE COOL ,,, LATER DUDES AND DUEDETTS
(OUR MATES IN THE U.K. WILL NEED A TRANSALATOR 4'DIS MESSAGE)
--0-1270687984-1068617202=:76754-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 09:54:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:54:18 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro vs Dorkness Message-ID: Can't belive anyone saying Turbo sounds like Dorkness they are really horrible, they have been on TV in Norway (and Sweden) Adds and 'live' - really sounds like a shitty Van Halen When I was in England to see Killing Joke, I saw ads for this band The Darkness and they had sold out venues that Killing Joke played at and did not sell out So I wondered what band this was, and belive me they are shitt at least the trax I have heard. I think they called themself some kind of hetro Queen and gay ???? TRBNGR !!!!!!! And whit : >> > > > >> > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any >>good I was trying to say that 'by their look' you would think their shit (like Dorkness) but if you listen to them and see them live, they are great I myself didn't get into them before I saw them live in the summer of 98. And that was after I had heard them on cd and lp, after helping Dave, gingoblin, getting some rare 12" and 7" and just before the broke up. >I was just wondering if I knew him... I met a guy at the Kristiansand show >in July 2002 that I'd previously met at the Amsterdam one in 1998... traded >a few vids with him over the years. It's not Jim is it? Another case of >small world bizarreness if it is! > >Dave > > > > > > > > >At 15:47 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >>Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... still it's just my >>opinion. >> >>Anyway. He's been to see them out there a few times I think and is going >>back soon. >> >>He was just at the Brighton show also. >> >> >> >>gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: >>No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo >>are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of >>all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!! >>When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates >>coming up? >> >>Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >> >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates >>'Turbs' >> >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. >> > >> >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a >> >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. >> > >> >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. >> > >> >Christof hamille wrote: >> >they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was >>excellent. >> > >> >I am the denim demon >> > >> >Chris >> > >> > >> > >> > >From: "DG" >> > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> > >To: >> > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >> > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 >> > > >> > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. >> > >Nothing >> > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. >> > >----- Original Message ----- >> > >From: "Arvid Mork" >> > >To: >> > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 >> > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway >> > > > ! :> >> > > > >> > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> >> > > > >> > > > I will o fcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller >> > > > >> > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >> > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >> > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK >> > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK >> > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO >> > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO >> > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK >> > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK >> > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE >> > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK >> > > > >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail snakker ditt språk! http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail på norsk i dag From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 10:03:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:03:32 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro vs Gluecifer Message-ID: >Have heard Gluecifer - they also rock they also starten out as a punk rock band like Turbo back in '94/ '95 here are some links to hear some mp3's : http://www.gluecifer.com/ http://www.mensen-band.com/ http://www.launderettes.no/ > > No, they are not gay. > > It's just an image, > > most of them are married and have childern > > > > Arvid (Norway) > > > > ps: we even have better bands in Norway > > f.ex. Gluecifer, Mensen and Launderettes > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail snakker ditt språk! http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail på norsk i dag From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 13:26:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:26:05 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro vs Dorkness Message-ID: <200311121326.hACDQ2cw001180@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> ">When I was in England to see Killing Joke,I saw ads for this band The Darkness and they had sold out venues that Killing Joke played at and did not sell out" And that surprises you? C'mon now....I thought it'd be wildy evident to everyone by now that *THE MAJORITY ARE SHEEP*. Bottom line: people are fucking stupid and have low goddamn standards, thus, they'll go for lowest-common-denominator fare every time. Case in point: at the behest of my wife, I was dragged last night to go see the "romantic comedy" of the moment, "Love Actually" (which was the laziest amalgam of "Notting Hill", "About a Boy", "Bridget Jones' Hysterectomy", and "Four Weddings & a Funeral" as can be nightmared about) and prior to the film, they showed a preview of the forthcoming Ben Stiller movie, which involved poop jokes, a blind ferrett and even yet still more of his usual fare. There was a couple sitting behind us who laughed at Stiller's desperate pandering as if they'd never been out of the hosue before. I know this makes me sound like a terrible snob, but I found it so depressing. Likewise, the Darkness' nudge-nudge wink-wink schtick is the musical equivalent of poorly executed, low-brow slapstick "comfort comedy" (no brai= n work involved....just show up and laugh derisively at something you knew nothing about to begin with, then go home feeling superior). If you're a Killing Joke fan, be proud of yourself, because YOU KNOW BETTER= . Alex in NYC...in a foul mood ---------- >From: "Arvid Mork" >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro vs Dorkness >Date: Wed, Nov 12, 2003, 4:54 AM > > >Can't belive anyone saying Turbo sounds like Dorkness >they are really horrible, they have been on TV in Norway (and Sweden) >Adds and 'live' - really sounds like a shitty Van Halen > >When I was in England to see Killing Joke, >I saw ads for this band The Darkness and they had sold out >venues that Killing Joke played at and did not sell out > >So I wondered what band this was, and belive me they are shitt >at least the trax I have heard. >I think they called themself some kind of hetro Queen and gay ???? > >TRBNGR !!!!!!! > > > >And whit : >>> > > > >>> > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any >>>good > >I was trying to say that 'by their look' you would think their shit (like >Dorkness) >but if you listen to them and see them live, they are great > >I myself didn't get into them before I saw them live in the summer of 98. >And that was after I had heard them on cd and lp, >after helping Dave, gingoblin, getting some rare 12" and 7" > >and just before the broke up. > > > > > >>I was just wondering if I knew him... I met a guy at the Kristiansand sho= w >>in July 2002 that I'd previously met at the Amsterdam one in 1998... trad= ed >>a few vids with him over the years. It's not Jim is it? Another case of >>small world bizarreness if it is! >> >>Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>At 15:47 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >>>Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... still it's just my >>>opinion. >>> >>>Anyway. He's been to see them out there a few times I think and is goin= g >>>back soon. >>> >>>He was just at the Brighton show also. >>> >>> >>> >>>gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: >>>No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo >>>are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of >>>all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!! >>>When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates >>>coming up? >>> >>>Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >>> >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates >>>'Turbs' >>> >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. >>> > >>> >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're= a >>> >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. >>> > >>> >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. >>> > >>> >Christof hamille wrote: >>> >they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was >>>excellent. >>> > >>> >I am the denim demon >>> > >>> >Chris >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >From: "DG" >>> > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >>> > >To: >>> > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >>> > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 >>> > > >>> > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. >>> > >Nothing >>> > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. >>> > >----- Original Message ----- >>> > >From: "Arvid Mork" >>> > >To: >>> > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 >>> > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway >>> > > > ! :> >>> > > > >>> > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> >>> > > > >>> > > > I will o fcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller >>> > > > >>> > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >>> > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >>> > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK >>> > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK >>> > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO >>> > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO >>> > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK >>> > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK >>> > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE >>> > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK >>> > > > >>> > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail snakker ditt spr=E5k! >http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=3Ddasp/lang.asp - F=E5 Hotmail p=E5 >norsk i dag > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 13:57:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:57:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro vs Dorkness In-Reply-To: <200311121326.hACDQ2cw001180@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031112135747.86493.qmail@web10402.mail.yahoo.com> COMFORT COMEDY!!!!! hahahahahah! that's awesome! i'll be stealing that one, thanks! Yup, fuck the Darkness, fuck Electric 6, and fuck ANYONE who ever spelled it "rawk" instead of "rock". Leigh --- Alex Smith wrote: > > ">When I was in England to see Killing Joke,I saw > ads for this band The > Darkness and they had sold out venues that Killing > Joke played at and did > not sell out" > > And that surprises you? C'mon now....I thought it'd > be wildy evident to > everyone by now that *THE MAJORITY ARE SHEEP*. > Bottom line: people are > fucking stupid and have low goddamn standards, thus, > they'll go for > lowest-common-denominator fare every time. Case in > point: at the behest of > my wife, I was dragged last night to go see the > "romantic comedy" of the > moment, "Love Actually" (which was the laziest > amalgam of "Notting Hill", > "About a Boy", "Bridget Jones' Hysterectomy", and > "Four Weddings & a > Funeral" as can be nightmared about) and prior to > the film, they showed a > preview of the forthcoming Ben Stiller movie, which > involved poop jokes, a > blind ferrett and even yet still more of his usual > fare. There was a couple > sitting behind us who laughed at Stiller's desperate > pandering as if they'd > never been out of the hosue before. I know this > makes me sound like a > terrible snob, but I found it so depressing. > > Likewise, the Darkness' nudge-nudge wink-wink > schtick is the musical > equivalent of poorly executed, low-brow slapstick > "comfort comedy" (no brain > work involved....just show up and laugh derisively > at something you knew > nothing about to begin with, then go home feeling > superior). > > If you're a Killing Joke fan, be proud of yourself, > because YOU KNOW BETTER. > > Alex in NYC...in a foul mood > > > > > > ---------- > >From: "Arvid Mork" > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro vs Dorkness > >Date: Wed, Nov 12, 2003, 4:54 AM > > > > > > >Can't belive anyone saying Turbo sounds like > Dorkness > >they are really horrible, they have been on TV in > Norway (and Sweden) > >Adds and 'live' - really sounds like a shitty Van > Halen > > > >When I was in England to see Killing Joke, > >I saw ads for this band The Darkness and they had > sold out > >venues that Killing Joke played at and did not sell > out > > > >So I wondered what band this was, and belive me > they are shitt > >at least the trax I have heard. > >I think they called themself some kind of hetro > Queen and gay ???? > > > >TRBNGR !!!!!!! > > > > > > > >And whit : > >>> > > > > >>> > > > So go and see them, they are great even if > they don' t look any > >>>good > > > >I was trying to say that 'by their look' you would > think their shit (like > >Dorkness) > >but if you listen to them and see them live, they > are great > > > >I myself didn't get into them before I saw them > live in the summer of 98. > >And that was after I had heard them on cd and lp, > >after helping Dave, gingoblin, getting some rare > 12" and 7" > > > >and just before the broke up. > > > > > > > > > > > >>I was just wondering if I knew him... I met a guy > at the Kristiansand show > >>in July 2002 that I'd previously met at the > Amsterdam one in 1998... traded > >>a few vids with him over the years. It's not Jim > is it? Another case of > >>small world bizarreness if it is! > >> > >>Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>At 15:47 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >>>Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... > still it's just my > >>>opinion. > >>> > >>>Anyway. He's been to see them out there a few > times I think and is going > >>>back soon. > >>> > >>>He was just at the Brighton show also. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: > >>>No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be > like The Darkness... Turbo > >>>are the best band I've heard in fucking years, > the Darkness remind me of > >>>all the cunts at school into shit metal in the > early 80's!!! > >>>When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or > is it one of the dates > >>>coming up? > >>> > >>>Dave > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >>> >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those > years ago now rates > >>>'Turbs' > >>> >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to > see them. > >>> > > >>> >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is > about. Musically they're a > >>> >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. > >>> > > >>> >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. > >>> > > >>> >Christof hamille wrote: > >>> >they just plowed through the states a few > months ago and it was > >>>excellent. > >>> > > >>> >I am the denim demon > >>> > > >>> >Chris > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >From: "DG" > >>> > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >>> > >To: > >>> > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >>> > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > >>> > > > >>> > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've > never looked any good. > >>> > >Nothing > >>> > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. > >>> > >----- Original Message ----- > >>> > >From: "Arvid Mork" > >>> > >To: > >>> > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 > >>> > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are > called in Norway > >>> > > > ! :> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! > :> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I will o fcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > >>> > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > >>> > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > >>> > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > >>> > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > >>> > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > >>> > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - > UK > >>> > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > >>> > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > >>> > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Hotmail snakker ditt språk! > >http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp > - Få Hotmail på > >norsk i dag > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 15:59:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:59:10 EST Subject: [kj] xmas Message-ID: <117.2b61df38.2ce3b2ce@aol.com> Has the Brixton Academy gig at xmas been confirmed or was this some bizarre dream i had? Lyle From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 16:42:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:42:13 -0000 Subject: [kj] Re: OT (Black Cat) Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CD01@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A93B.EC926879 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wasn't at that one unfortunately Michele, (I was still working in the = Hague at the time). I have seen them a few times over the last couple of = years though, Witchwood, the Ritz & Shepherds Bush Empire spring to = mind. I agree they are fantastic live, and the passion from their = audience always means the atmosphere is electric. =20 Jane -----Original Message----- From: Michele Marchesan [mailto:mikemarchesan@libero.it] Sent: 11 November 2003 21:28 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Re: OT (Black Cat) the chameleons (in manchester, 25/09 last year, where you there Jane?) = have been the best gig of my life so far... the sound was great indeed = also if the rockworld is not the best place to play... great sound, = great band! =20 M. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: P Bernardi=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Re: OT (Black Cat) Both excellent gigs. The Chameleons played a loooooong set and pretty = much brought out every song one needed to hear (except Mad Jack and In = Answer). Intrigue in Tangiers was a stunner and Dont Fall + Up the Down = Escalator were encores. Definitely one of my favorite concerts ever.=20 I did catch Mark Burgess on his acoustic tour this past summer. He = played a good balance of well known tunes and obscure songs (The Healer, = Solo Stuff, and some which I've never heard before). =20 NMA - I wasnt feeling too well and had to miss a couple tunes to get = fresh air. Was way too hot in the club. I heard NMA had requested the = air conditioner be turned off - dont know if thats true or not. Im not = as well versed with NMA as I am w/ the Joke - so, I cant recall specific = titles but I recognized a couple of songs (from Thunder and Ghost of = Cain). Some new material was played that sounded very good. Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 wrote: I expect NMA had one of their long-time regular roadies with them, and = they are reknowned for being perfectionists over sound - to the extent = they drive local crews to distraction ;-) Never, Ever watch an NMA = soundcheck -- they are mind-numbingly tedious and last for hours... =20 I've never seen the Chameleons do a gig with poor sound either, so maybe = the story is similar for them. =20 Apart from good sound, how were both gigs? What did they play? =20 Jane -----Original Message----- From: P Bernardi [ mailto:phantasmas@erols.com] Sent: 11 November 2003 04:01 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Re: Bad Yeah, Black Cat generally has crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible = when I checked them out awhile back. Only two bands I've seen there that = had really great sound there was the Chameleons and the New Model Army = acoustic show. Devacor@AOL.COM wrote: =20 I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen = them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned = werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the = were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band = thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out = for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. = They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A93B.EC926879 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 wasn't at that one unfortunately Michele, (I was still working in the = Hague at=20 the time). I have seen them a few times over the last couple of=20 years though, Witchwood, the Ritz & Shepherds Bush Empire = spring to=20 mind. I agree they are fantastic live, and the passion from their = audience=20 always means the atmosphere is electric.
 
Jane
-----Original Message-----
From: Michele Marchesan=20 [mailto:mikemarchesan@libero.it]
Sent: 11 November 2003=20 21:28
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] = Re: OT=20 (Black Cat)

the chameleons (in manchester, 25/09 = last year,=20 where you there Jane?) have been the best gig of my life so far... the = sound=20 was great indeed also if the rockworld is not the best place to = play... great=20 sound, great band!
 
M.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 P=20 Bernardi
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, = 2003 4:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Re: OT = (Black=20 Cat)

Both excellent gigs. The Chameleons played a = loooooong set=20 and pretty much brought out every song one needed to hear (except = Mad Jack=20 and In Answer).  Intrigue in Tangiers was a stunner and Dont = Fall + Up=20 the Down Escalator were encores. Definitely one of my favorite = concerts=20 ever.

I did catch Mark Burgess on his acoustic tour this = past=20 summer.  He played a good balance of well known tunes and = obscure songs=20 (The Healer, Solo Stuff, and some which I've never heard before).=20  

NMA - I wasnt feeling too well and had to miss a = couple tunes=20 to get fresh air. Was way too hot in the club. I heard NMA had = requested the=20 air conditioner be turned off - dont know if thats true or not. =  Im not=20 as well versed with NMA as I am w/ the Joke - so, I cant recall = specific=20 titles but I recognized a couple of songs (from Thunder and Ghost of = Cain).=20 Some new material was played that sounded very=20 good.





Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42 = wrote:
I expect NMA had one of their long-time regular roadies = with them,=20 and they are reknowned for being perfectionists over sound - to = the extent=20 they drive local crews to distraction ;-) Never, Ever watch an NMA = soundcheck -- they are mind-numbingly tedious and last for=20 hours...
 
I've never seen the Chameleons do a gig with poor sound = either, so=20 maybe the story is similar for them.
 
Apart from good sound, how were both gigs? What did they=20 play?
 
Jane
-----Original Message-----
From: P Bernardi = [mailto:phantasmas@erols.com]
= Sent:=20 11 November 2003 04:01
To: gathering@misera.net
Subje= ct:=20 Re: [kj] Re: Bad

Yeah, Black Cat generally = has=20 crappy sound. Turbonegro sounded horrible when I checked them = out awhile=20 back. Only two bands I've seen there that had really great sound = there=20 was the Chameleons and the New Model Army acoustic = show.

Devacor@AOL.COM wrote:
    =


I thought that show was ok- it just was on off night and I have seen =
them much better, so I had that to judge them on- the others i mentioned =
werent really fans and never seen them before but they could tell the =
were struggling up there and sound was bad. I guess they thought a band =
thats been around that long and of that stature could have worked it out =
for their sound to be better and more then 100-150 people in the crowd. =
They did go out and buy the new CD so we'll see if they like it
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A93B.EC926879-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 16:57:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Ford Prefect) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:57:57 -0000 Subject: [kj] time keeps ticking Message-ID: <001301c3a93e$1f85ba30$6eb224d9@sn7212787026> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3A93E.1F1F5740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable albeit backwards! nice malicious clock arrived today and is hanging proudly on the wall ahh graham ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3A93E.1F1F5740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
albeit = backwards!
 
nice malicious clock = arrived today=20 and is hanging proudly on the wall
 
ahh
 
graham
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3A93E.1F1F5740-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 17:08:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (culture.virus) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:08:48 -0800 Subject: [kj] Re: Bad In-Reply-To: <20031112020504.34580.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <107.286d7735.2ce1686f@aol.com> <20031112020504.34580.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20031112081834.029e01e0@127.0.0.1> Well as far as my experience goes I thought it was great. The set list contained no surprises but at least several albums were represented. I would have liked to hear something from Revs and EDVRS but I was happy to hear what I did. The stage at Seattle's Showbox was too cramped I think, but from what I've seen of KJ they're not the type to run the stage anyway. We didn't get any props and of the few live videos of I've seen props are rarely used so I wasn't disappointed. The audience at the Seattle show was around 200-250 I would guess. I know some of the younger folks came to see Amen, but the pit was rolling for KJ so I think overall everyone was pleased. As Jiri said in another post a lot of it is how spread out we are. AFAIK there is only one other Gatherer in the Seattle area and I'm about 50 miles from Seattle. So you can tell that the hardcore fans are less densely concentrated. On the plus side I did talk to several people who have been in on the Joke since the BPF days but were unaware of the list. At 06:05 PM 11/11/03, you wrote: > IS there something up with the US leg o'tour? Overall seems a >more "muted" response to it here stateside than across the >water, despite a few very good writeups here as of recent. >The setlist seems about the same, so it can't be that. > >saul > >--- GregSlawson@aol.com wrote: >All > > 3 were fairly > > dissappointed. I guess the sound (at least in the US) has > > been poor, the sets not > > always long enough, and the band's stage presence, dress, and > > (lack of ) stage > > props has been disappointing. > >===== >WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > >"Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." I am culturevirus From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 17:03:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (william) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:03:35 -0800 Subject: [kj] Nov 11th :: vancouver References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031110184920.029e8460@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <00c701c3a93e$e92fdb40$4145cf18@d2k3a5> ....well the joke impressed the hell out of me! similar to 'culture virus's' review of the seattle show. the boys seemed to be in terrific spirits,really enjoying themselves sadly,this was my first time catching them live [jaz mentioned onstage that 1982 was their last vancouver appearance] and all i can say is holy fuck! jaz was really talkative between songs ,commenting on the illegal election and the illegal war,9-11,our neighbours to the south,blair,"hell is made up of people with no opinions",international/large corporations. as i said,he had alot to say,sure someone else will add more. large turnout,club was packed,not sure of the numbers.people even tried singing along to "asteroid" ! [jaz::"now it feels like home"] geordie and raven seemed to be having a great time,exchanging looks and laughing all night. william ...i cut and pasted the seattle setlist below. the set was identical ,altough they played two more songs :: > Communion > Requiem > Total Invasion > Wardance > Blood On Your Hands > Change > Seeing Red > Fall Of Because > D & R Show EMPIRE SONG [jaz:: "we don't play this one in the US"] > The Wait > Asteroid > Whiteout KINGS AND QUEENS > Frenzy > Pssyche > Encore: > Loose Cannon > Pandemonium From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 18:45:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mik Raven) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:45:58 -0000 Subject: [kj] Backwards Backwards References: <000401c3a6c4$2434d970$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <006101c3a94d$a90d4160$0200a8c0@Paulas> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3A94D.3691B300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Clock number 002 was waiting for me when I got home. Goes well with the = wallpaper. Many thanks Mike Mik ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3A94D.3691B300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Clock number 002 was waiting for = me when I got=20 home. Goes well with the wallpaper.
 
Many thanks Mike
 
Mik
------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3A94D.3691B300-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 19:50:44 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:50:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Brilliant MP3 In-Reply-To: <006101c3a94d$a90d4160$0200a8c0@Paulas> Message-ID: <20031112195044.57846.qmail@web86102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1620821988-1068666644=:57470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Finally found it, and it's still as daft as a badger with two tails and no head. Annoyingly I've got it on vinyl but have no way to play it. Those cheesy chords are the best thing I've ever heard. Geordie is too stylish for the likes of us. --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1620821988-1068666644=:57470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Finally found it, and it's still as daft as a badger with two tails and no head. 
 
Annoyingly I've got it on vinyl but have no way to play it. 
 
Those cheesy chords are the best thing I've ever heard.  Geordie is too stylish for the likes of us.
 

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1620821988-1068666644=:57470-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 21:26:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:26:32 +0000 Subject: [kj] tickery tickery tok Message-ID: --============_-1143450099==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" graham said nice malicious clock arrived today and is hanging proudly on the wall and mik said Clock number 002 was waiting for me when I got home. Goes well with the wallpaper so how was the cardboard box chaps? cheers colesy, -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1143450099==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" tickery tickery tok
graham said
nice malicious clock arrived today and is hanging proudly on the wall

and mik said
Clock number 002 was waiting for me when I got home. Goes well with the wallpaper

so how was the cardboard box chaps?
cheers colesy,
--
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk
... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
--============_-1143450099==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 22:10:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Frenchy Frenzy) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:10:31 +0100 Subject: [kj] xmas In-Reply-To: <117.2b61df38.2ce3b2ce@aol.com> Message-ID: <000001c3a969$cdf8a2f0$1400000a@Nathalie> Paul Raven told me during one of the London's gigs rehearsal that It was difficult to organize ( that's why the 2nd gig at the Astoria was filmed because it was planned to film the Brixton one ) If I have well understood, it should be simply cancelled. St=E9phane -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] De la part de MADELYLE@aol.com Envoy=E9=A0: mercredi 12 novembre 2003 16:59 =C0=A0: gathering@misera.net Objet=A0: Re: [kj] xmas Has the Brixton Academy gig at xmas been confirmed or was this some bizarre=20 dream i had? Lyle _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 12 22:49:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Frenchy Frenzy) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 23:49:01 +0100 Subject: [kj] Astoria DVD Bootleg [KJ] Message-ID: <000001c3a96f$2b792710$1400000a@Nathalie> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3A977.8D3F15B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, =20 Does anyone has already seen the bootleg filmed during the 2nd gig at the Astoria, available on Ebay ? =20 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=3D2566486650&category=3D1572&rd=3D1#ebayphotohosting =20 =20 Waiting for your comments =85 =20 =20 St=E9phane =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3A977.8D3F15B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = all,

 

Does = anyone has already seen the bootleg filmed during the 2nd gig at the = Astoria= , available on Ebay ?

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.= uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2566486650&category=3D1572&am= p;rd=3D1#ebayphotohosting

 

 

Waiting = for your comments …

 

 

St=E9phane<= /span>

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3A977.8D3F15B0-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 02:33:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33:32 EST Subject: [kj] OT - {Pigface content} Message-ID: <67.1c0a3498.2ce4477c@aol.com> --part1_67.1c0a3498.2ce4477c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No flames please-I know some here don't care for anything where Martin Atkins is involved--but some do - so for those that do: Be advised the Pigface tour is well underway and is coming to DC at Nation tomorrow. The lineup is chockablock with some wild stuff - and the shows always have plenty of surprises. Well worth an evening off the couch I wager. For more: www.theunitedtour.com --part1_67.1c0a3498.2ce4477c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No flames please-I know some here don't care for anyth= ing where Martin Atkins is involved--but some do - so for those that do:&nbs= p;

Be advised the Pigface tour is well underway and is coming to DC at Nation t= omorrow.  The lineup is chockablock with some wild stuff - and the show= s always have plenty of surprises.  Well worth an evening off the couch= I wager.

For more: www.theunitedtour.com --part1_67.1c0a3498.2ce4477c_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 03:24:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:24:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. In-Reply-To: <008d01c3a8ca$e82588e0$11effea9@BRAINSAW> Message-ID: <20031113032418.33363.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> Unfortunately there is nothing within about a mile of the area to down a few before the show. I think the closest is a Shakey's Pizza on Fairfax and Olympic for pitchers of beer, but my first and best suggestion b4 the show would be the margaritas(& other) at the El Coyote restaurant up on Beverly bl. at Gardner(?). They're liquid jackhammers whenever I've been there. The place is about a mile north, so ab. a 5 minute drive or a 15 minute wlak. Or Molly Malone's Pub ab. 1 mile west on fairfax at 6th St. --- DG wrote: > Speaking of............Any pre-show Gathering plans for Fri. > show? I'm gettin' off work early. Anyone??? damebo. ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 04:33:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Ford Prefect) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:33:06 -0000 Subject: [kj] tickery tickery tok References: Message-ID: <001101c3a99f$3c83a320$88e59151@sn7212787026> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3A99F.3C1BE0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickery tickery tokcardboard box complimented by brown parcel paper=20 what more could a boy want for and mrs graham returned from the office to say, "it really does go = backwards!" graham ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mike coles=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:26 PM Subject: [kj] tickery tickery tok graham said nice malicious clock arrived today and is hanging proudly on the wall and mik said Clock number 002 was waiting for me when I got home. Goes well with = the wallpaper so how was the cardboard box chaps? cheers colesy, --=20 Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3A99F.3C1BE0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickery tickery tok
cardboard box = complimented by brown=20 parcel paper
what more could a boy = want=20 for
 
and mrs graham returned = from the=20 office to say, "it really does go backwards!"
 
graham
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mike coles
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, = 2003 9:26=20 PM
Subject: [kj] tickery tickery = tok

graham said
nice malicious clock arrived = today and is=20 hanging proudly on the wall

and mik said
Clock number 002 was = waiting for me=20 when I got home. Goes well with the wallpaper

so how was the cardboard box = chaps?
cheers colesy,
--=20
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.u= k
...=20 and you can find more Killing Joke at=20 http://www.studio-c.co.uk
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3A99F.3C1BE0A0-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 09:25:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:25:03 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro vs Dorkness Message-ID: > >">When I was in England to see Killing Joke,I saw ads for this band The >Darkness and they had sold out venues that Killing Joke played at and did >not sell out" > >And that surprises you? No I should not have been, but then I never had heard about Dorkness and well after being on this mailinglist for many years, you start belive that KJ are the biggest band in the world :> and then, when I was i Wolverhampton, tour start. The Hall was just half full, and that was the small one in the back the big one in front, there were some stand up or something Talk about getting it in your face. Bigger crowd in Manchester and Leeds Last night there was an interview with The Darkness on Norwegian TV and 'anchor-man' said they had good songs !?!?!? I'm I stupid or what: The only thing I hear is his terrible voice, and the rest of the band looks like they are trying to look like Spinal Tap > >">When I was in England to see Killing Joke,I saw ads for this band The >Darkness and they had sold out venues that Killing Joke played at and did >not sell out" > >And that surprises you? C'mon now....I thought it'd be wildy evident to >everyone by now that *THE MAJORITY ARE SHEEP*. Bottom line: people are >fucking stupid and have low goddamn standards, thus, they'll go for >lowest-common-denominator fare every time. Case in point: at the behest of >my wife, I was dragged last night to go see the "romantic comedy" of the >moment, "Love Actually" (which was the laziest amalgam of "Notting Hill", >"About a Boy", "Bridget Jones' Hysterectomy", and "Four Weddings & a >Funeral" as can be nightmared about) and prior to the film, they showed a >preview of the forthcoming Ben Stiller movie, which involved poop jokes, a >blind ferrett and even yet still more of his usual fare. There was a couple >sitting behind us who laughed at Stiller's desperate pandering as if they'd >never been out of the hosue before. I know this makes me sound like a >terrible snob, but I found it so depressing. > >Likewise, the Darkness' nudge-nudge wink-wink schtick is the musical >equivalent of poorly executed, low-brow slapstick "comfort comedy" (no >brain >work involved....just show up and laugh derisively at something you knew >nothing about to begin with, then go home feeling superior). > >If you're a Killing Joke fan, be proud of yourself, because YOU KNOW >BETTER. > >Alex in NYC...in a foul mood > > > > > >---------- > >From: "Arvid Mork" > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro vs Dorkness > >Date: Wed, Nov 12, 2003, 4:54 AM > > > > > > >Can't belive anyone saying Turbo sounds like Dorkness > >they are really horrible, they have been on TV in Norway (and Sweden) > >Adds and 'live' - really sounds like a shitty Van Halen > > > >When I was in England to see Killing Joke, > >I saw ads for this band The Darkness and they had sold out > >venues that Killing Joke played at and did not sell out > > > >So I wondered what band this was, and belive me they are shitt > >at least the trax I have heard. > >I think they called themself some kind of hetro Queen and gay ???? > > > >TRBNGR !!!!!!! > > > > > > > >And whit : > >>> > > > > >>> > > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any > >>>good > > > >I was trying to say that 'by their look' you would think their shit (like > >Dorkness) > >but if you listen to them and see them live, they are great > > > >I myself didn't get into them before I saw them live in the summer of 98. > >And that was after I had heard them on cd and lp, > >after helping Dave, gingoblin, getting some rare 12" and 7" > > > >and just before the broke up. > > > > > > > > > > > >>I was just wondering if I knew him... I met a guy at the Kristiansand >show > >>in July 2002 that I'd previously met at the Amsterdam one in 1998... >traded > >>a few vids with him over the years. It's not Jim is it? Another case of > >>small world bizarreness if it is! > >> > >>Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>At 15:47 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >>>Well, the whole anthemic rock and roll thing... still it's just my > >>>opinion. > >>> > >>>Anyway. He's been to see them out there a few times I think and is >going > >>>back soon. > >>> > >>>He was just at the Brighton show also. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>gingoblin@easynet.co.uk wrote: > >>>No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... >Turbo > >>>are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me >of > >>>all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!! > >>>When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates > >>>coming up? > >>> > >>>Dave > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >>> >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates > >>>'Turbs' > >>> >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. > >>> > > >>> >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically >they're a > >>> >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. > >>> > > >>> >I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. > >>> > > >>> >Christof hamille wrote: > >>> >they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was > >>>excellent. > >>> > > >>> >I am the denim demon > >>> > > >>> >Chris > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >From: "DG" > >>> > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >>> > >To: > >>> > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >>> > >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > >>> > > > >>> > >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any >good. > >>> > >Nothing > >>> > >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. > >>> > >----- Original Message ----- > >>> > >From: "Arvid Mork" > >>> > >To: > >>> > >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 > >>> > >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > >>> > > > ! :> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I will o fcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > >>> > > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO > >>> > > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK > >>> > > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK > >>> > > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO > >>> > > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO > >>> > > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK > >>> > > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK > >>> > > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE > >>> > > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Hotmail snakker ditt språk! > >http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail på > >norsk i dag > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail snakker ditt språk! http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail på norsk i dag From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 09:41:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:41:37 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: > >Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates 'Turbs' >as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. > >I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a >bit Darknessy but with a better singer. > There is alot of things I don't like with Turbonegro, Why the hell do Hank have to look and dress like Alice Cooper only reason is that 'Dudes' sounds like an Alice record?? and I think the sound on the last to records are to 'polish' as I said before 'I like Ass Cobra best' and of course the live 2LP, five more Ass Cobra songs than on the cd. :> better singer !? hummm, I think the rest of the band are much better musican Hank is just a good preformer/ frontman, but not much of a singer _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail snakker ditt språk! http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få Hotmail på norsk i dag From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 10:25:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:25:17 -0000 Subject: [kj] Astoria DVD Bootleg [KJ] Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF137@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> Hmm . . looks interesting . .=20 Anyone going for it ? Marc . > -----Original Message----- > From: Frenchy Frenzy [SMTP:frenchyfrenzy@free.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:49 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: [kj] Astoria DVD Bootleg [KJ] >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > =20 >=20 > Does anyone has already seen the bootleg filmed during the 2nd gig at = the > Astoria, available on Ebay ? >=20 > =20 >=20 > = 1572&rd=3D1#ebayphotohosting> >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Waiting for your comments ... >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > St=E9phane >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 This communication may contain information that is confidential and = legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). = If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information = within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet = Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 12:33:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:33:57 +0000 Subject: [kj] Astoria DVD Bootleg [KJ] In-Reply-To: <000001c3a96f$2b792710$1400000a@Nathalie> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20031113123322.01b39b70@pop3.norton.antivirus> And if anyone does have this DVD... fancy a trade? There must be other shows filmed too... anyone got anything? Dave At 23:49 12/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hi all, > > > >Does anyone has already seen the bootleg filmed during the 2nd gig at the= =20 >Astoria, available on Ebay ? > > > >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI= tem&item=3D2566486650&category=3D1572&rd=3D1#ebayphotohosting > > > > > >Waiting for your comments & > > > > > >St=E9phane > > > > > > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 13:53:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:53:57 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - {Pigface content} Message-ID: They just came through Detroit. A person I know that works at the venue said there was about 300 people. Not a huge , or impressive, amount of Pigface members. He has seen them countless times in the past when playing the same venue and he said this was the least impressive. Going through the motions was how he put it. Oh, and Charles Levi(y) is STILL a sweat machine. He saw Mr. Atkins in the office after the show looking sweaty but he swears that he did not see him on stage for the show. Dope sucked (duh) and that was about it. Chris >From: FlumeDC@aol.com >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] OT - {Pigface content} >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:33:32 EST > >No flames please-I know some here don't care for anything where Martin >Atkins >is involved--but some do - so for those that do: > >Be advised the Pigface tour is well underway and is coming to DC at Nation >tomorrow. The lineup is chockablock with some wild stuff - and the shows >always >have plenty of surprises. Well worth an evening off the couch I wager. > >For more: www.theunitedtour.com _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 15:04:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:04:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] tickery tickery tok In-Reply-To: <001101c3a99f$3c83a320$88e59151@sn7212787026> Message-ID: <20031113150410.10123.qmail@web80511.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ford Prefect wrote: > tickery tickery tokcardboard box complimented by > brown parcel paper > what more could a boy want for A nifty bin liner, like that which comes with the t-shirts? :P > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mike coles > To: gathering@misera.net > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:26 PM > Subject: [kj] tickery tickery tok > > > graham said > nice malicious clock arrived today and is hanging > proudly on the wall > > > and mik said > Clock number 002 was waiting for me when I got > home. Goes well with the wallpaper > > > so how was the cardboard box chaps? > cheers colesy, > -- > Check out our merchandise at > http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 15:56:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?=) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:56:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <20031111023917.97631.qmail@web80403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031113155615.51979.qmail@web86111.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > > INFERNO > > > > Southern countries Foul concoctions? > > Come in 20 chains > > When the dust picks the dust > > All the things are crossed insane > > And my skin, feel my skin > > Getting melanoma > > Scorcher scorcher > > Tell me when it's over > > Tell me when the nightmare's over ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 17:39:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fat potanga) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:39:49 +0000 Subject: [kj] tickery tickery tok Message-ID: >A nifty bin liner, like that which comes with the t-shirts? :P funnily enough, I actually needed a big bin bag so imagine my surprise and delight when I opened my MD package. Why is it, merely at the mention of black bin bags you can actually smell them? Same with the old red phoneboxes, the smell and the sound they made dialling, putting the coins in..... Ahh, schoolboys in the park. Jumpers for goalposts... ----Original Message Follows---- From: Jiri Reply-To: gathering@misera.net To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] tickery tickery tok Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:04:10 -0800 (PST) --- Ford Prefect wrote: > tickery tickery tokcardboard box complimented by > brown parcel paper > what more could a boy want for A nifty bin liner, like that which comes with the t-shirts? :P > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mike coles > To: gathering@misera.net > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:26 PM > Subject: [kj] tickery tickery tok > > > graham said > nice malicious clock arrived today and is hanging > proudly on the wall > > > and mik said > Clock number 002 was waiting for me when I got > home. Goes well with the wallpaper > > > so how was the cardboard box chaps? > cheers colesy, > -- > Check out our merchandise at > http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 17:51:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:51:51 +0000 Subject: [kj] bin liner Message-ID: maybe I should do a malicious damage bin liner then I could wrap it up in a t-shirt... cheers, old sam (a bin liner) -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 18:05:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (nicholas fitzpatrick) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:05:45 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses Message-ID: I’ve been waiting for the haunted house thread to kick off, the one inadvertently started by Joe about three weeks ago, which mysteriously disappeared. I’ll continue regardless. First, I’ll admit to having a soft spot for the classic Victorian ghost story but I have never held a deep belief in ghosts and even now, after possibly seeing one in my home, I still wouldn’t particularly argue they exist. For the past five years I’ve lived in a turn-of-century house - Edwardian, I guess - in South East London (would be better if it was Victorian). We always had a funny feeling about it, but we put all those noises down to the wind running free through its four-storeys. And I never took seriously the story told to me by a former housemate who said that her friend - a Brazilian girl – who visited her once had refused to sleep in the spare bedroom due to a “malevolent male presence” (the spare room is next to my bedroom on the top floor – yikes, Scooby). Well, to not drag this out any more than necessary, it was about two and a half years ago when the following happened. It was 3.30 in the morning and I was in bed reading. I was still awake at that time because I was ill with shingles (adult chicken pox). Shingles hurts which is why I had been awake all night, but I have to say I felt mentally 100% compos mentis. Shingles is purely a physical pain caused by blistering on the back, but there was absolutely no fever or other head effects with it, not in my case at least, and I didn’t feel down or depressed. At 3.30am I decided to stop reading and to go downstairs to make myself a cup of tea and sit up for a bit. What happened next took a mere two seconds to happen but I can’t explain it that quickly. I got out of bed and walked out to the top of stairs. The landing was quite dark as it is at the back of the house facing over the unkempt back garden where there’s no street lighting. The stairs go straight ahead and then V-turn back around and run down to the lower landing. As soon as I walked out onto the top landing, out of the corner of my right eye I was instantly aware of a presence, male it seemed, on the lower landing. My instant thought was that it must be my housemate as it was outside his bedroom, but as soon as that thought occurred to me it also instantly hit me that there had been absolutely no noise whatsoever – no door opening, no steps on the floorboards etc – just total silence. This had the effect of mildly stunning me. I began then to turn to look at whatever it was and all I can say is that as I turned this thing appeared to shrink into a white orb a bit bigger than a cricket ball and appeared to be gliding up the stairs. Just as I was about to finally lay my eyes on it (I admit that I didn’t really get the chance to look at it directly) it did a sudden 90 degree turn to the left and disappeared under the stairs below me. I stood there for about a minute taking it in. I was still fairly stunned but in a perfectly pleasant kind of way. It obviously hadn’t been a ‘living’ housemate and I ruled out the chance of an intruder. This left me thinking that it had been an hallucination or what some people might just call a ghost. The idea that it had been a ghost, I must admit, quite entertained me and I’ve enjoyed telling this tale a few times, although I know it isn’t particularly dramatic; I mean this is not exactly Poltergeist. I ultimately rationalise it, though. I tell myself that although I felt fine, the truth is I probably hadn’t slept for about 20 hours, and even if tiredness wasn’t to blame, nor any history of hallucinations, my body chemistry would have been all mixed up due to the shingles, meaning that some chemicals in my brain that wouldn’t normally mix suddenly did do and this caused some prolonged flash effect on my neurons or retina or whatever. But despite this, I couldn’t get the story told to me by the local priest a few months earlier out of my mind… [Just stick with this for another minute if you can, please] Several months prior to the above event, I took a day off work in the run up to Christmas to do some shopping. On my way home at about 5.30 I decided to pop into my local pub (the Grove on Camberwell Grove) for a pint. I was sat at the bar on my own when in walked the local priest. I had never seen him before but he was dressed as a priest and looked like the typical English village vicar (I’ll assume everyone knows what I mean by that). Father Rodney, as everybody in the bar who greeted him called him, pulled up at the bar next to me and ordered a drink. Again, to get to the point, we began talking. We got on quite merrily, he bought me a drink, I him. We ran through a few topics: local gossip, local history, crime rate and other social issues, probably a bit of theology even. Then, after about 45 minutes he asked me where I live. I said that I lived at— (forgive me if I don’’t broadcast my address; I’m sure everyone here is perfectly fine but you never know, do you). He looked like he was trying to picture it and asked me to describe EXACTLY where the house was. So I said: “You walk down X Road, turn left on to X Street and it’s the first house on your left.” “Oh my god, you don’t live there do you?!” “Yes, why?” “There was a big murder there in 1979 and I buried the victim.” (Sorry I’ve got to go, but all this is totally true). _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 19:06:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Arvid Mork) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:06:54 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro vs Surferosa Message-ID: Will this Norwegian ever shut up ! ? :> And how is Surferosa related to Turbonegro, well Mariann sings on 'Scandinavian Leather' Surferosa will play UK in November, they play what they self call Neon Punk Pop I think you can hear and see video on : http://www.surferosa.no/ so maybe Dave will be at the show, up front, with Alice Cooper make up !? UK LONDON Upstairs @ the Garage 03/11/24 UK Newcastle Newcastle University 03/11/25 UK Aberdeen Aberdeen Music Hall 03/11/26 UK Glasgow Barrowland 03/11/27 UK Liverpool Liverpool University 03/11/28 UK Preston Preston University 03/11/29 ok, I will shut up now sorry ! :> _________________________________________________________________ Last ned nye MSN Messenger 6.0 gratis http://www.msn.no/computing/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom deg og dine venner From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 13 20:34:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mattdunn) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:34:50 -0000 Subject: [kj] guy pratt In-Reply-To: <001101c3a99f$3c83a320$88e59151@sn7212787026> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3AA25.964A4EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tickery tickery tokI was browsing in HMV the other day (and resolutely refusing to buy anything due to the ridiculous prices) and was reading this huge book that contained rock discographies. In it was quite an impressive and surprisingly accurate account of Killing Joke's releases. I'm sure there are some gaps in my knowledge, but this is a new one on me: according to this book, Guy Pratt replaced Youth on bass before Revelations and was replaced by Raven In time for Firedances (i.e. Guy also played on Ha and Birds Of A Feather). Is this true? Can anybody please enlighten me? Thanks Matt ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3AA25.964A4EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickery tickery tok
I was=20 browsing in HMV the other day (and resolutely refusing to buy anything = due to=20 the ridiculous prices) and was reading this huge book that contained = rock=20 discographies. In it was quite an impressive and surprisingly accurate = account=20 of Killing Joke's releases.
 
I'm=20 sure there are some gaps in my knowledge, but this is a new one on me: = according=20 to this book, Guy Pratt replaced Youth on bass before Revelations and = was=20 replaced by Raven In time for Firedances (i.e. Guy also played on Ha and = Birds=20 Of A Feather).
 
Is=20 this true? Can anybody please enlighten me?
 
Thanks
 
Matt
 
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3AA25.964A4EF0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 01:44:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Michael Garcia) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:44:34 -0800 Subject: [kj] Tonight at Slims! References: Message-ID: <001401c3aa50$db5f7e40$5abf9b0c@dragonflmznxwc> Just a few hours until I leave to see the Joke! Tom, aleph, I'll be there with 3 others I'll be wearing black with a a longsleeve sjhirt with a tribal-ish design on front and back. If anyone else thinks they see me come say hi and lets have a pint! Cheers Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "fat potanga" To: Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [kj] tickery tickery tok > >A nifty bin liner, like that which comes with the t-shirts? :P > > funnily enough, I actually needed a big bin bag so imagine my surprise and > delight when I opened my MD package. > Why is it, merely at the mention of black bin bags you can actually smell > them? > Same with the old red phoneboxes, the smell and the sound they made > dialling, putting the coins in..... > > Ahh, schoolboys in the park. Jumpers for goalposts... > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Jiri > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] tickery tickery tok > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:04:10 -0800 (PST) > > --- Ford Prefect wrote: > > tickery tickery tokcardboard box complimented by > > brown parcel paper > > what more could a boy want for > > A nifty bin liner, like that which comes with the > t-shirts? :P > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mike coles > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:26 PM > > Subject: [kj] tickery tickery tok > > > > > > graham said > > nice malicious clock arrived today and is hanging > > proudly on the wall > > > > > > and mik said > > Clock number 002 was waiting for me when I got > > home. Goes well with the wallpaper > > > > > > so how was the cardboard box chaps? > > cheers colesy, > > -- > > Check out our merchandise at > > http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at > http://www.studio-c.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 01:52:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alexi Hamilton) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:52:29 +0000 Subject: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!! Message-ID:

   Well, Damn, Andy...I thought you'd just blocked me.  Whew   8)

~Alexi (In the middle of moving home)




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>From: Andreas Misera
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Slash & Burn INFERNO!!!!!!!!
>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:25:28 -0500 (EST)
>
>i sometimes miss mails from certain people, and always find them in my
>JUNK folder - thanks to my spam filter. you might wanna check that...
>
>-a.
>
>On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 Jpwhkj@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Yeah, been happening to me for months.
> >
> > I'd always assumed it was AOL.
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> > "fat potanga" writes:
> >
> > >BTW, anyone else not getting all messages?
> > >I see replies with text from email that's never arrived, if you gte my
> > >drift?
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Gathering@misera.net
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> >
>
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Send a QuickGreet with MSN Messenger. From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 02:32:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (william) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:32:29 -0800 Subject: [kj] guy pratt References: Message-ID: <003901c3aa57$8d35dd20$4145cf18@d2k3a5> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C3AA14.7E8C5620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickery tickery tokclipped this from all music guide:: For many years Guy Pratt has held high ranks within the realm of session = bassist. Formative years saw him in Killing Joke before moving to = Icehouse and Pink Floyd. Moving to LA he jammed with musicians that = would make up Sheryl Crow's Tuesday night music club. While he may have = missed the grade there he made up for with Madonna and Michael Jackson - = who famously never reimbursed Pratt for his contribution to Earth Song. = Around the same time Pratt veered his attentions towards acting = performing on, co-writing and producing UK actor Jimmy Nail's Growing Up = In Public album and acting in Randell and Hopkirk (deceased). Highly = versatile he continues bass cameos on Tom Jones, The Orb and Natalie = Imbruglia to name many.=20 ....interesting.... ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C3AA14.7E8C5620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickery tickery tok
clipped this from all music=20 guide::
 
For many years Guy Pratt has = held high=20 ranks within the realm of session bassist. Formative years saw him in = Killing=20 Joke before moving to Icehouse and Pink Floyd. Moving to LA he jammed = with=20 musicians that would make up Sheryl Crow's Tuesday night music club. = While he=20 may have missed the grade there he made up for with Madonna and Michael = Jackson=20 - who famously never reimbursed Pratt for his contribution to Earth = Song. Around=20 the same time Pratt veered his attentions towards acting performing on,=20 co-writing and producing UK actor Jimmy Nail's Growing Up In Public = album and=20 acting in Randell and Hopkirk (deceased). Highly versatile he continues = bass=20 cameos on Tom Jones, The Orb and Natalie Imbruglia to name many.=20
 
 
 
....interesting....
------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C3AA14.7E8C5620-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 05:23:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (DG) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:23:51 -0800 Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. References: <20031113032418.33363.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001d01c3aa6f$9cd71920$11effea9@BRAINSAW> My wife seems to think that there are a couple places near the venue that should be passable. Will get back to you when more info is available. Also, danlbarth(@aol), let's try to consolidate any Gatherers, and have the proverbial "Good Night Out." Are there really only four Gatherers in the L.A. area? ANYONE? Bueller? ANYONE? I'm from San Francisco, only been down here for 1&1/2 years, but what's up with music fans down here? I went to see Mark Burgess @ he Troubadour a couple months ago, and there were only 30 to 40 people!!! Anyways, if there are any more on this list, let us know please! Y.T., damebo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sade1" To: Sent: Wednesday, 12 November, 2003 19:24 Subject: Re: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. > Unfortunately there is nothing within about a mile of the area > to down a few before the show. I think the closest is a Shakey's > Pizza on Fairfax and Olympic for pitchers of beer, but my first > and best suggestion b4 the show would be the margaritas(& other) > at the El Coyote restaurant up on Beverly bl. at Gardner(?). > They're liquid jackhammers whenever I've been there. The place > is about a mile north, so ab. a 5 minute drive or a 15 minute > wlak. > Or Molly Malone's Pub ab. 1 mile west on fairfax at 6th St. > > --- DG wrote: > > Speaking of............Any pre-show Gathering plans for Fri. > > show? I'm gettin' off work early. Anyone??? damebo. > > > ===== > WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > > "Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 08:38:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tom Foolery) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:38:58 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT Scandinavian "Rock" irony Message-ID:

What about The Ark? Imagine, if you dare, a hybrid of Gary Glitter, Queen & Placebo. And at least the singer is a genuine bi.

luv from

Stimro

"Mummy, what's a Killing Joke?"

"A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"


The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 08:58:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:58:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses Message-ID: <20031114085840.00897396B@sitemail.everyone.net> Last night, I spent 20 minutes typing a full account of all my weird goings on in my house. One of the points I made was that, after research, I discovered that supernatural occurances are more likely to happen when the energy is changed in a building (i.e. children being born or alterations) As I sent it, my p.c. crashed. Totally freaked me out. We have the builders in! --- "nicholas fitzpatrick" wrote: Ive been waiting for the haunted house thread to kick off, the one inadvertently started by Joe about three weeks ago, which mysteriously disappeared. Ill continue regardless. First, Ill admit to having a soft spot for the classic Victorian ghost story but I have never held a deep belief in ghosts and even now, after possibly seeing one in my home, I still wouldnt particularly argue they exist. For the past five years Ive lived in a turn-of-century house - Edwardian, I guess - in South East London (would be better if it was Victorian). We always had a funny feeling about it, but we put all those noises down to the wind running free through its four-storeys. And I never took seriously the story told to me by a former housemate who said that her friend - a Brazilian girl who visited her once had refused to sleep in the spare bedroom due to a malevolent male presence (the spare room is next to my bedroom on the top floor yikes, Scooby). Well, to not drag this out any more than necessary, it was about two and a half years ago when the following happened. It was 3.30 in the morning and I was in bed reading. I was still awake at that time because I was ill with shingles (adult chicken pox). Shingles hurts which is why I had been awake all night, but I have to say I felt mentally 100% compos mentis. Shingles is purely a physical pain caused by blistering on the back, but there was absolutely no fever or other head effects with it, not in my case at least, and I didnt feel down or depressed. At 3.30am I decided to stop reading and to go downstairs to make myself a cup of tea and sit up for a bit. What happened next took a mere two seconds to happen but I cant explain it that quickly. I got out of bed and walked out to the top of stairs. The landing was quite dark as it is at the back of the house facing over the unkempt back garden where theres no street lighting. The stairs go straight ahead and then V-turn back around and run down to the lower landing. As soon as I walked out onto the top landing, out of the corner of my right eye I was instantly aware of a presence, male it seemed, on the lower landing. My instant thought was that it must be my housemate as it was outside his bedroom, but as soon as that thought occurred to me it also instantly hit me that there had been absolutely no noise whatsoever no door opening, no steps on the floorboards etc just total silence. This had the effect of mildly stunning me. I began then to turn to look at whatever it was and all I can say is that as I turned this thing appeared to shrink into a white orb a bit bigger than a cricket ball and appeared to be gliding up the stairs. Just as I was about to finally lay my eyes on it (I admit that I didnt really get the chance to look at it directly) it did a sudden 90 degree turn to the left and disappeared under the stairs below me. I stood there for about a minute taking it in. I was still fairly stunned but in a perfectly pleasant kind of way. It obviously hadnt been a living housemate and I ruled out the chance of an intruder. This left me thinking that it had been an hallucination or what some people might just call a ghost. The idea that it had been a ghost, I must admit, quite entertained me and Ive enjoyed telling this tale a few times, although I know it isnt particularly dramatic; I mean this is not exactly Poltergeist. I ultimately rationalise it, though. I tell myself that although I felt fine, the truth is I probably hadnt slept for about 20 hours, and even if tiredness wasnt to blame, nor any history of hallucinations, my body chemistry would have been all mixed up due to the shingles, meaning that some chemicals in my brain that wouldnt normally mix suddenly did do and this caused some prolonged flash effect on my neurons or retina or whatever. But despite this, I couldnt get the story told to me by the local priest a few months earlier out of my mind [Just stick with this for another minute if you can, please] Several months prior to the above event, I took a day off work in the run up to Christmas to do some shopping. On my way home at about 5.30 I decided to pop into my local pub (the Grove on Camberwell Grove) for a pint. I was sat at the bar on my own when in walked the local priest. I had never seen him before but he was dressed as a priest and looked like the typical English village vicar (Ill assume everyone knows what I mean by that). Father Rodney, as everybody in the bar who greeted him called him, pulled up at the bar next to me and ordered a drink. Again, to get to the point, we began talking. We got on quite merrily, he bought me a drink, I him. We ran through a few topics: local gossip, local history, crime rate and other social issues, probably a bit of theology even. Then, after about 45 minutes he asked me where I live. I said that I lived at (forgive me if I dont broadcast my address; Im sure everyone here is perfectly fine but you never know, do you). He looked like he was trying to picture it and asked me to describe EXACTLY where the house was. So I said: You walk down X Road, turn left on to X Street and its the first house on your left. Oh my god, you dont live there do you?! Yes, why? There was a big murder there in 1979 and I buried the victim. (Sorry Ive got to go, but all this is totally true). _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 09:00:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Andreas Misera) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:00:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [kj] Australian Tour dates (fwd) Message-ID: gathering with a g in the end, scott... ;-) ******************************************************* Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" ******************************************************* ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:49:25 +1100 From: scott.lambeth@hic.gov.au To: gatherin@misera.net Subject: Australian Tour dates Hey Joe. Just for completeness mate, you might wanna add the following Aussie tour dates to your site: Nov 19 - The Metro, Sydney Nov 21 - The Arena, Brisbane Nov 23 - The HiFi Bar & Ballroom, Melbourne. Other than m'self & Michele, is there any other Gatherers going? -S ~Analysis, Paralysis~ **************************************************************** NOTICE - This message is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action based upon it. If you received this message in error please notify HIC immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of HIC. **************************************************************** From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 09:42:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:42:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! Message-ID: <20031114094230.69663.qmail@web80409.mail.yahoo.com> --0-466599054-1068802950=:61277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone........Jello Biafra was there. We got the goods.... Tom. --0-466599054-1068802950=:61277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone........Jello Biafra was there.  We got the goods....
 
Tom.
--0-466599054-1068802950=:61277-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 10:01:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (DG) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:01:20 -0800 Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! References: <20031114094230.69663.qmail@web80409.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005601c3aa96$627b9b30$11effea9@BRAINSAW> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C3AA53.32DF0530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TOMORROW NIGHT FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( and maybe 4 other gatherers) = "got the goods? as in recordings? pics? video? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thomas Kennedy=20 To: gathering=20 Sent: Friday, 14 November, 2003 01:42 Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is = gone........Jello Biafra was there. We got the goods.... Tom. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C3AA53.32DF0530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
TOMORROW NIGHT FOR = ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ( and=20 maybe 4 other gatherers)   "got the goods?  as in = recordings?=20 pics? video?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thomas Kennedy
Sent: Friday, 14 November, 2003 = 01:42
Subject: [kj] SF kicked = ass!!

I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is = gone........Jello=20 Biafra was there.  We got the goods....
 
Tom.
------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C3AA53.32DF0530-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 10:41:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bill Meissner) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:41:35 -0800 Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Message-ID: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D60202600F@encore02.libertylivewire.com> Bill here - I live in Venice/work in Hollywood.Been a gathering member for 3 years.Send any info on meeting up.I have a busy day today but wiil try to make it.First time seeing KJ-I can't wait!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: DG [mailto:damebo@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:24 PM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. My wife seems to think that there are a couple places near the venue that should be passable. Will get back to you when more info is available. Also, danlbarth(@aol), let's try to consolidate any Gatherers, and have the proverbial "Good Night Out." Are there really only four Gatherers in the L.A. area? ANYONE? Bueller? ANYONE? I'm from San Francisco, only been down here for 1&1/2 years, but what's up with music fans down here? I went to see Mark Burgess @ he Troubadour a couple months ago, and there were only 30 to 40 people!!! Anyways, if there are any more on this list, let us know please! Y.T., damebo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sade1" To: Sent: Wednesday, 12 November, 2003 19:24 Subject: Re: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. > Unfortunately there is nothing within about a mile of the area > to down a few before the show. I think the closest is a Shakey's > Pizza on Fairfax and Olympic for pitchers of beer, but my first > and best suggestion b4 the show would be the margaritas(& other) > at the El Coyote restaurant up on Beverly bl. at Gardner(?). > They're liquid jackhammers whenever I've been there. The place > is about a mile north, so ab. a 5 minute drive or a 15 minute > wlak. > Or Molly Malone's Pub ab. 1 mile west on fairfax at 6th St. > > --- DG wrote: > > Speaking of............Any pre-show Gathering plans for Fri. > > show? I'm gettin' off work early. Anyone??? damebo. > > > ===== > WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > > "Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 11:18:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christophe Barry) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:18:07 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT - TO JON References: Message-ID: <008a01c3aaa0$fb4ca7a0$5ffda8c0@SACHA> Jon, Mail me off list please th e-mail address you sent seems not to work cheers Christophe From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 12:19:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:19:34 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: I think that is kind of a stretch also. I mean they both have guitars, bass and drums. the latest Turbonegro has more of a The Alice Cooper BAND (you know, Killer, Love It To Death, when THEY were great) but is still incredible. It is kind of like saying Grand Funk Railroad and Alice Cooper sound similar. They sort of do (because being from the same era) but really they are worlds apart and one always sucked. Wipe It Til' It Bleeds Chris >From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:31:25 +0000 > >No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The Darkness... Turbo >are the best band I've heard in fucking years, the Darkness remind me of >all the cunts at school into shit metal in the early 80's!!! >When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the dates >coming up? > >Dave > > > > >At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >>Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates 'Turbs' >>as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. >> >>I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically they're a >>bit Darknessy but with a better singer. >> >>I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. >> >>Christof hamille wrote: >>they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was excellent. >> >>I am the denim demon >> >>Chris >> >> >> >> >From: "DG" >> >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> >To: >> >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >> >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 >> > >> >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any good. >> >Nothing >> >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Arvid Mork" >> >To: >> >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 >> >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >> > >> > >> > > >> > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway >> > > will tour UK in December >> > > >> > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look any good >>! :> >> > > >> > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> >> > > >> > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller >> > > >> > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) >> > > >> > > >> > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >> > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >> > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK >> > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK >> > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO >> > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO >> > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK >> > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK >> > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE >> > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK >> > > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > Hotmail snakker ditt språk! >> > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=dasp/lang.asp - Få >>Hotmail >> >på >> > > norsk i dag >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Gathering mailing list >> > > Gathering@misera.net >> > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Gathering mailing list >> >Gathering@misera.net >> >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. >>https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering@misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> >>Want to chat instantly with your online friends? >>Get >>the FREE Yahoo! Messenger > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 15:07:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:07:09 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Armia video Message-ID:

after so many scandinavian recommendations it's time to take a look at eastern europe: check out the new promo video of armia (toured with killing joke in poland during extremities... their 1990 album LEGENDA is still one of my favourites....)... perhaps not their finest hour, still worth a try:

http://film-1354.film.szorty.pl/

dirt


Freunde werben und kräftig abräumen mit der Messenger-Mania. Hier klicken - der Countdown läuft! Jetzt mitmachen und FreeSMS sichern! From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 15:38:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:38:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] OT: Armia video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031114163618.B8870-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dirk Kingerske wrote: > http://film-1354.film.szorty.pl/ Er, how are we supposed to learn Polish enough to get a login to grab the DivX version? :> BTW, anybody with a taste for death metal should check out Behemoth on tour in the US right now (if it is over, they will be back in December). Best band i have heard from "down there" for a long long time. Thelemic death metal, at least they don't sing about Satan like the rest of those folks usually do. b From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 15:56:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:56:00 -0500 Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! Message-ID: <200311141555.hAEFtwgt015477@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151652160_233854_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!! Alex in NYC ---------- From: Thomas Kennedy To: gathering Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone........Jello Biafra was there. We got the goods.... Tom. --MS_Mac_OE_3151652160_233854_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!!

Alex in NYC



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From: Thomas Kennedy <tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.net>
To: gathering <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM


I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone...= .....Jello Biafra was there.  We got the goods....
 
Tom.

--MS_Mac_OE_3151652160_233854_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 17:31:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:31:22 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Armia video Message-ID:

Bo!!!! That's a scandal..... you don't know Polish!!!! How ignorant :o)  Why don't you just try the realplayer (I know it's evil...) version... no Polish needed!

dirt

>From: Bo Krogsgaard
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Armia video
>Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:38:10 +0100 (CET)
>
>
>On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Dirk Kingerske wrote:
>
> > http://film-1354.film.szorty.pl/
>
>Er, how are we supposed to learn Polish enough to get a login to grab the
>DivX version? :>
>
>BTW, anybody with a taste for death metal should check out Behemoth on
>tour in the US right now (if it is over, they will be back in December).
>Best band i have heard from "down there" for a long long time. Thelemic
>death metal, at least they don't sing about Satan like the rest of those
>folks usually do.
>
>
>b
>
>
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>Gathering@misera.net
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Coole Emoticons und Hintergründe für den MSN Messenger Hier kostenlos downloaden! From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 18:01:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (D G) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:01:32 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Message-ID: <8442405.1068832893039.JavaMail.root@wamui09.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Hey Bill I live in Glendale near the 210. sade 1 was talking about molly malones's (?), i can't remember as i'm @ work, and am using web mail. My wife's supposed to call & gimme' info about any nearby public houses. Any other L.A. Gatherers lurking right now? I will post any new info as it comes to me. Y.T., damebo. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Meissner Sent: Nov 14, 2003 2:41 AM To: "'gathering@misera.net'" Subject: RE: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. Bill here - I live in Venice/work in Hollywood.Been a gathering member for 3 years.Send any info on meeting up.I have a busy day today but wiil try to make it.First time seeing KJ-I can't wait!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: DG [mailto:damebo@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:24 PM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. My wife seems to think that there are a couple places near the venue that should be passable. Will get back to you when more info is available. Also, danlbarth(@aol), let's try to consolidate any Gatherers, and have the proverbial "Good Night Out." Are there really only four Gatherers in the L.A. area? ANYONE? Bueller? ANYONE? I'm from San Francisco, only been down here for 1&1/2 years, but what's up with music fans down here? I went to see Mark Burgess @ he Troubadour a couple months ago, and there were only 30 to 40 people!!! Anyways, if there are any more on this list, let us know please! Y.T., damebo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sade1" To: Sent: Wednesday, 12 November, 2003 19:24 Subject: Re: [kj] Nov 14 L.A. > Unfortunately there is nothing within about a mile of the area > to down a few before the show. I think the closest is a Shakey's > Pizza on Fairfax and Olympic for pitchers of beer, but my first > and best suggestion b4 the show would be the margaritas(& other) > at the El Coyote restaurant up on Beverly bl. at Gardner(?). > They're liquid jackhammers whenever I've been there. The place > is about a mile north, so ab. a 5 minute drive or a 15 minute > wlak. > Or Molly Malone's Pub ab. 1 mile west on fairfax at 6th St. > > --- DG wrote: > > Speaking of............Any pre-show Gathering plans for Fri. > > show? I'm gettin' off work early. Anyone??? damebo. > > > ===== > WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > > "Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 18:30:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Michael Garcia) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:30:43 -0800 Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! - References: <200311141555.hAEFtwgt015477@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <003001c3aadd$6a0431e0$5abf9b0c@dragonflmznxwc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C3AA9A.5BB91E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!! Sf Got to the gig last night in Sf early. The = tour bus was parked right in front and I couldnt believe that there was = actually a line to get in. If fact the place was absolutelty full. I'd = say very close to a sellout night. No sign of the boys though. Amen was = crap (in my humble opinion). Killing joke was in great form. Incredibly = tight as a matter of fact. More so than I've ever seen them. Jaz in a = great mood, Geordie smiling and hamming it up with Raven. Ted pounding = the skins as only a true Joke drummer can. I'm not going to write the = setlist down as I think (and Tom can probably confirm this) they played = evey song that I've seen in all the sets posted here. They even played = Follow the Leaders. Highlights for me were D&R Show, Follow The Leaders, = Asteriod and Psyche. Jaz even went off on someone in the crowd for a bit = even though I couldn't really make out what he was saying. Although I = picked up the words "Fucker" and "Cunt" used several times. Before the = show I saw someone with an Extremities shirt on so I decided to ask if = he was on the Gathering, and low and behold it was our own Tom Kennedy! = It was great to chat with him for a while. I did meet someone else from = the list later in the evening but by that point the drinks were starting = to take over my short term memory was toast. All in all a great night = indeed. Next week New Model Army two doors down from where last night's = show was.' ahh. it's a great month... Cheers, No longer lurking as much, Michael PS Tom I havent screamed and danced that much in a long time. This 35 = year old body is feeling it this morning! ,----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Smith=20 To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering=20 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!! C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!! Alex in NYC ---------- From: Thomas Kennedy To: gathering Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is = gone........Jello Biafra was there. We got the goods.... =20 Tom. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C3AA9A.5BB91E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
 Sf Got to the gig last night in = Sf early. The=20 tour bus was parked right in front and I couldnt believe that there was = actually=20 a line to get in. If fact the place was absolutelty full. I'd say very = close to=20 a sellout night. No sign of the boys though. Amen was crap (in my humble = opinion). Killing joke was in great form. Incredibly tight as a matter = of fact.=20 More so than I've ever seen them. Jaz in a great mood, Geordie smiling = and=20 hamming it up with Raven. Ted pounding the skins as only a true Joke = drummer=20 can. I'm not going to write the setlist down as I think (and Tom can = probably=20 confirm this) they played evey song that I've seen in all the sets = posted here.=20 They even played Follow the Leaders. Highlights for me were D&R = Show, Follow=20 The Leaders, Asteriod and Psyche. Jaz even went off on someone in = the crowd=20 for a bit even though I couldn't really make out what he was=20 saying. Although I picked up the words "Fucker" and "Cunt" = used=20 several times. Before the show I saw someone with an Extremities shirt = on so I=20 decided to ask if he was on the Gathering, and low and behold it was our = own Tom=20 Kennedy! It was great to chat with him for a while. I did meet someone = else from=20 the list later in the evening but by that point the drinks were starting = to take=20 over my short term memory was toast. All in all a great night indeed. = Next week=20 New Model Army two doors down from where last night's show was.' ahh. = it's a=20 great month...
 
Cheers,
No longer lurking as much,
Michael
 
PS Tom I havent screamed and danced = that much in a=20 long time. This 35 year old body is feeling it this = morning!
,----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Alex=20 Smith
To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering=20
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 = 7:56=20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] SF kicked = ass!!


C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!!

Alex = in=20 NYC



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From: Thomas Kennedy <tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.net= >
To:=20 gathering <gathering@misera.net>
Subj= ect:=20 [kj] SF kicked ass!!
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM


I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is=20 gone........Jello Biafra was there.  We got the=20 = goods....
 
Tom.

------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C3AA9A.5BB91E90-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 19:13:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:13:37 -0500 Subject: [kj] An ILM live review.... Message-ID: <200311141913.hAEJDZcw021907@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> >From the unhealthily Dave Grohl-obsessed AjaKitty.... http://www.ilxor.com/thread.php?msgid=4007199#unread Alex in NYC From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 19:41:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Robin Noelle McFayden) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:41:03 -0500 Subject: [kj] Anyone going to Asbury Park this weekend? Message-ID: <003801c3aae7$3fdb2680$53365444@aoldsl.net> I was just wondering if anyone was headed out to the NJ Metal and Hardcore Fest this weekend. My 34th birthday is on Monday so I thought 12 hours of head banging was in order. I plan on stopping by to see the crew from WSOU - www.wsou.net and letting them know that it's nice to have a station in the area that plays KJ in their regular rotation. Also - I'm not sure if anyone has an interest in a few links I came across, but here they are..... http://www.invisiblerecords.com/bands/killingjoke/index.asp http://www.invisiblerecords.com/bands/damage/index.asp http://www.invisiblerecords.com/damagemanual/index.html http://www.invisiblerecords.com/main.htm - The pigtailed redhead in Jersey - Robin :-) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 19:47:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dave Axford) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:47:14 -0500 Subject: [kj] An ILM live review.... References: <200311141913.hAEJDZcw021907@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <000801c3aae8$1aa28920$826f8a3f@Joker> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3AABE.314E0250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > From the unhealthily Dave Grohl-obsessed AjaKitty.... >=20 >=20 > http://www.ilxor.com/thread.php?msgid=3D4007199#unread >=20 > Alex in NYC Hmmm.... "Unhealthily Dave Grohl obsessed" eh? I think that we should = get together and pull her tail by saying things like "How did Dave Like = the SF show? He was really into when he was in Toronto." Maybe someone = else could add: "Had beer and wings with the Grohl-ster before the = ---------- show". and make it sound like Grohl is the uber fan = travelling from city to city on the tour (except her's of course). Think = she'd fall for it? Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3AABE.314E0250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

>
> From the unhealthily Dave = Grohl-obsessed=20 AjaKitty....
>
>
> http://www.ilxor.com/thread.php?msgid=3D4007199#unread
>
> Alex in NYC
Hmmm.... "Unhealthily Dave Grohl = obsessed" eh? I=20 think that we should get together and pull her tail by saying = things like=20 "How did Dave  Like the SF show? He was really into when he was in=20 Toronto." Maybe someone else could add: "Had beer and wings = with the=20 Grohl-ster before the ---------- show".  and make it sound = like Grohl=20 is the uber fan travelling from city to city on the tour (except her's = of=20 course). Think she'd fall for it?
 
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3AABE.314E0250-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 20:00:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:00:22 -0500 Subject: [kj] An ILM live review.... Message-ID: <200311142001.hAEK16gt017722@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151666823_1115939_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Ah, she's twelve. Give her a break! Alex in NYC ---------- From: "Dave Axford" To: Subject: Re: [kj] An ILM live review.... Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 2:47 PM > > From the unhealthily Dave Grohl-obsessed AjaKitty.... > > > http://www.ilxor.com/thread.php?msgid=4007199#unread > > Alex in NYC Hmmm.... "Unhealthily Dave Grohl obsessed" eh? I think that we should get together and pull her tail by saying things like "How did Dave Like the SF show? He was really into when he was in Toronto." Maybe someone else could add: "Had beer and wings with the Grohl-ster before the ---------- show". and make it sound like Grohl is the uber fan travelling from city to city on the tour (except her's of course). Think she'd fall for it? Dave --MS_Mac_OE_3151666823_1115939_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] An ILM live review....
Ah, she's twelve. Give her a break!

Alex in NYC


----------
From: "Dave Axford" <daxford@rogers.com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] An ILM live review....
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 2:47 PM


 

>
> From the unhealthily Dave Grohl-obsessed AjaKitty....
>
>
> http://www.ilxor.com/thread.php?msgid=3D4007199= #unread
>
> Alex in NYC
Hmmm.... "Unhealthily Dave Grohl obsessed" eh? I t= hink that we should get together and pull her tail by saying things like &qu= ot;How did Dave  Like the SF show? He was really into when he was in To= ronto." Maybe someone else could add: "Had beer and wings with the= Grohl-ster before the ---------- show".  and make it sound like G= rohl is the uber fan travelling from city to city on the tour (except her's = of course). Think she'd fall for it?
 
 
Dave

--MS_Mac_OE_3151666823_1115939_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 20:18:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:18:27 -0600 Subject: [kj] An ILM live review.... In-Reply-To: <200311142001.hAEK16gt017722@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3151664308_1004403 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I just read that, and I have to say, reading what a 12 year old girl thinks...going to this show with her mum...man, it really is fucking cool. On 11/14/03 2:00 PM, "Alex Smith" wrote: > > Ah, she's twelve. Give her a break! > > Alex in NYC > > > ---------- > From: "Dave Axford" > To: > Subject: Re: [kj] An ILM live review.... > Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 2:47 PM > > >> >> >>> > >>> > From the unhealthily Dave Grohl-obsessed AjaKitty.... >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.ilxor.com/thread.php?msgid=4007199#unread >>> > >>> > Alex in NYC >> Hmmm.... "Unhealthily Dave Grohl obsessed" eh? I think that we should get >> together and pull her tail by saying things like "How did Dave Like the SF >> show? He was really into when he was in Toronto." Maybe someone else could >> add: "Had beer and wings with the Grohl-ster before the ---------- show". >> and make it sound like Grohl is the uber fan travelling from city to city on >> the tour (except her's of course). Think she'd fall for it? >> >> >> Dave >> > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM --B_3151664308_1004403 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] An ILM live review.... I just read that, and I= have to say, reading what a 12 year old girl thinks...going to this show wi= th her mum...man, it really is fucking cool.

On 11/14/03 2:00 PM, "Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net> = wrote:


Ah, she's twelve. Give her a break!

Alex in NYC


----------
From: "Dave Axford" <daxford@rogers.com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] An ILM live review....
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 2:47 PM




>
> From the unhealthily Dave Grohl-obsessed AjaKitty....
>
>
> http://www.ilxor.com/thread.php?msgid=3D4007199#unread >
> Alex in NYC
Hmmm.... "Unhealt= hily Dave Grohl obsessed" eh? I think that we should get together and p= ull her tail by saying things like "How did Dave  Like the SF show= ? He was really into when he was in Toronto." Maybe someone else could = add: "Had beer and wings with the Grohl-ster before the ---------- show= ".  and make it sound like Grohl is the uber fan travelling from c= ity to city on the tour (except her's of course). Think she'd fall for it?
 
Dave




KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
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--B_3151664308_1004403-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 20:40:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:40:41 -0000 Subject: [kj] guy pratt References: Message-ID: <00f801c3aaef$93ce43a0$cb788751@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01C3AAEF.91914BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickery tickery tokRaven says it's bollocks ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mattdunn=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: [kj] guy pratt I was browsing in HMV the other day (and resolutely refusing to buy = anything due to the ridiculous prices) and was reading this huge book = that contained rock discographies. In it was quite an impressive and = surprisingly accurate account of Killing Joke's releases. I'm sure there are some gaps in my knowledge, but this is a new one on = me: according to this book, Guy Pratt replaced Youth on bass before = Revelations and was replaced by Raven In time for Firedances (i.e. Guy = also played on Ha and Birds Of A Feather). Is this true? Can anybody please enlighten me? Thanks Matt ------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01C3AAEF.91914BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tickery tickery tok
Raven says it's bollocks
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mattdunn
Sent: Thursday, November 13, = 2003 8:34=20 PM
Subject: [kj] guy pratt

I=20 was browsing in HMV the other day (and resolutely refusing to buy = anything due=20 to the ridiculous prices) and was reading this huge book that = contained rock=20 discographies. In it was quite an impressive and surprisingly accurate = account=20 of Killing Joke's releases.
 
I'm=20 sure there are some gaps in my knowledge, but this is a new one on me: = according to this book, Guy Pratt replaced Youth on bass before = Revelations=20 and was replaced by Raven In time for Firedances (i.e. Guy also played = on Ha=20 and Birds Of A Feather).
 
Is=20 this true? Can anybody please enlighten me?
 
Thanks
 
Matt
 
------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01C3AAEF.91914BF0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 21:03:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:03:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! In-Reply-To: <200311141555.hAEFtwgt015477@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031114210322.82205.qmail@web80409.mail.yahoo.com> --0-380437913-1068843802=:81556 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii (and more you shall get, Alex!....) :) Okay, I'm awake now and drinking my echinacea tea, so I'll try and do this: Great, great show. KILLING JOKE was on their game last night - playing for almost TWO HOURS!! The set was similar to the lists I've seen for other shows, but for the last 1/3 or so they seemed to be going on-the-fly for what they decided to play (Jaz would be talking to raven, then Geordie, then go into a little speech before the songs). "Frenzy", "Follow the leaders", "Empire Song" (which I think Jaz said we didn't normally get on this tour) were played - the only song they didn't do (now that I remember) was "Loose Cannon." Me and Bob Read both agreed the best song of the night was "Kings and Queens" - they fucking rocked that one!!! They were loud as hell! (my ears are ringing) The packed crowd was into it from the get-go - with even a pit for 'Communion'. I was in the front/pit area on raven's side for the whole show except for when I had to take a breather and re-hydrate (with water!.....yes, I was sufficiently intoxicated) These two chicks kept trying to fight me during 'Requiem', as, apparently, I was to blame for the increasing pit around them - which I wasn't, I was just standing there. I tried to apologize, but also added "Wait 'til 'BLood on your hands" ; ) (I didn't hear from them more after that) Geordie was wearing those parachute pants (that didn't match, as Alex pointed out), and Jaz and raven were in face makeup, much like the pictures previously posted. raven went onstage slamming a bottle of wine (ha!ha!) I didn't have a camera, so no pictures I'm afraid... I met Mr. Michael Garcia at the show - I was in the back drinking an Amstel Light during AMEN (who I thought were one of the better punk bands I've seen recently) when this guy walks by and asks me if I was from the Gathering, I said I was, and I met him and his girlfriend and bandmate, I think (....sorry if I'm wrong - a bit faded!) We then had a couple more rounds and waited for the 'JOKE to start. Part-time gatherer Bob Read was there as well, making it now three people from this list I've met in person! Aleph was there too, but managed to avoid detection - the only person with red-hair I saw was this big guy with a half-mohawk. (Bob Read said that wasn't him) : ) Anyway, it was a great experience! Seeing KJ with such a good crowd was awesome, and the band seemed totally into it. At the end of 'Pandemonium' crescendo with the crowd screaming, a beaming-Jaz exclaimed "I want to thank all of you!..You've made me very fucking happy!" Him and raven and Geordie were all hugging each other and it was a really cool moment. At the end, me and Bob Read were in the merch line when we saw Jello Biafra walk by -him and a few people were waiting by the backstage area. (A conversation between Jello and Jaz would be interesting to say the least!) I bought an XL "Jaz" shirt and said goodbye's to everyone and went outside by their tourbus. The only one who came outside (briefly) was Geordie, whom I offered "Geordie, you guys rocked!" He said thanks!) I wanted to talk to raven (who I met at Gary Numan in Hollywood a couple of years ago) but it wasn't to be this time. (no worries) All in all, a great evening at the KILLING JOKE show. Even though Jaz said one of us were going to be dead by the time they got back (ha!ha!), I hope they stay in good health so they can keep playing for a while! 'Til the next time. HOUNOR THE FIRE! Tom. C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!! Alex in NYC ---------- From: Thomas Kennedy To: gathering Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone........Jello Biafra was there. We got the goods.... Tom. --0-380437913-1068843802=:81556 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
(and more you shall get, Alex!....)  :)
 
Okay, I'm awake now and drinking my echinacea tea, so I'll try and do this:
 
Great, great show.   KILLING JOKE was on their game last night - playing for almost TWO HOURS!!    The set was similar to the lists I've seen for other shows, but for the last 1/3 or so they seemed to be going on-the-fly for what they decided to play (Jaz would be talking to raven, then Geordie, then go into a little speech before the songs).  "Frenzy", "Follow the leaders", "Empire Song" (which I think Jaz said we didn't normally get on this tour) were played - the only song they didn't do (now that I remember) was "Loose Cannon."   Me and Bob Read both agreed the best song of the night was "Kings and Queens" - they fucking rocked that one!!! 
 
They were loud as hell!   (my ears are ringing)  The packed crowd was into it from the get-go - with even a pit for 'Communion'.   I was in the front/pit area on raven's side for the whole show except for when I had to take a breather and re-hydrate (with water!.....yes, I was sufficiently intoxicated)  These two chicks kept trying to fight me during 'Requiem', as, apparently, I was to blame for the increasing pit around them - which I wasn't, I was just standing there.  I tried to apologize, but also added "Wait 'til 'BLood on your hands"  ; )  (I didn't hear from them more after that)
 
Geordie was wearing those parachute pants (that didn't match, as Alex pointed out), and Jaz and raven were in face makeup, much like the pictures previously posted.  raven went onstage slamming a bottle of wine (ha!ha!)   I didn't have a camera, so no pictures I'm afraid...    I met Mr. Michael Garcia at the show - I was in the back drinking an Amstel Light during AMEN (who I thought were one of the better punk bands I've seen recently) when this guy walks by and asks me if I was from the Gathering, I said I was, and I met him and his girlfriend and bandmate, I think (....sorry if I'm wrong - a bit faded!)   We then had a couple more rounds and waited for the 'JOKE to start.   Part-time gatherer Bob Read was there as well, making it now three people from this list I've met in person!   Aleph was there too, but managed to avoid detection - the only person with red-hair I saw was this big guy with a half-mohawk.  (Bob Read said that wasn't him)  : )
 
Anyway, it was a great experience!   Seeing KJ with such a good crowd was awesome, and the band seemed totally into it.   At the end of 'Pandemonium' crescendo with the crowd screaming, a beaming-Jaz exclaimed "I want to thank all of you!..You've made me very fucking happy!"   Him and raven and Geordie were all hugging each other and it was a really cool moment. 
 
At the end, me and Bob Read were in the merch line when we saw Jello Biafra walk by -him and a few people were waiting by the backstage area.  (A conversation between Jello and Jaz would be interesting to say the least!)   I bought an XL "Jaz" shirt and said goodbye's to everyone and went outside by their tourbus.   The only one who came outside (briefly) was Geordie, whom I offered "Geordie, you guys rocked!"   He said thanks!)   I wanted to talk to raven (who I met at Gary Numan in Hollywood a couple of years ago) but it wasn't to be this time.  (no worries)
 
All in all, a great evening at the KILLING JOKE show.   Even though Jaz said one of us were going to be dead by the time they got back (ha!ha!), I hope they stay in good health so they can keep playing for a while!    'Til the next time.
 
HOUNOR THE FIRE!
 
Tom.
 

 

C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!!

Alex in NYC



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From: Thomas Kennedy <tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.net>
To: gathering <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM


I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone........Jello Biafra was there.  We got the goods....
 
Tom.

--0-380437913-1068843802=:81556-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 21:04:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (D G) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:04:14 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! - Message-ID: <9842768.1068843854829.JavaMail.root@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Is that NMA show @ the DNA or Paradise Lounge??? -----Original Message----- From: Michael Garcia Sent: Nov 14, 2003 10:30 AM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!! - Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
Sf Got to the gig last night in Sf early. The tour bus was parked right in front and I couldnt believe that there was actually a line to get in. If fact the place was absolutelty full. I'd say very close to a sellout night. No sign of the boys though. Amen was crap (in my humble opinion). Killing joke was in great form. Incredibly tight as a matter of fact. More so than I've ever seen them. Jaz in a great mood, Geordie smiling and hamming it up with Raven. Ted pounding the skins as only a true Joke drummer can. I'm not going to write the setlist down as I think (and Tom can probably confirm this) they played evey song that I've seen in all the sets posted here. They even played Follow the Leaders. Highlights for me were D&R Show, Follow The Leaders, Asteriod and Psyche. Jaz even went off on someone in the crowd for a bit even though I couldn't really make out what he was saying. Although I picked up the words "Fucker" and "Cunt" used several times. Before the show I saw someone with an Extremities shirt on so I decided to ask if he was on the Gathering, and low and behold it was our own Tom Kennedy! It was great to chat with him for a while. I did meet someone else from the list later in the evening but by that point the drinks were starting to take over my short term memory was toast. All in all a great night indeed. Next week New Model Army two doors down from where last night's show was.' ahh. it's a great month...
Cheers,
No longer lurking as much,
Michael
PS Tom I havent screamed and danced that much in a long time. This 35 year old body is feeling it this morning!
,----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Smith
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!!


C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!!

Alex in NYC



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From: Thomas Kennedy <tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.net>
To: gathering <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM


I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone........Jello Biafra was there. We got the goods....

Tom.

From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 21:04:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:04:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! In-Reply-To: <005601c3aa96$627b9b30$11effea9@BRAINSAW> Message-ID: <20031114210438.82546.qmail@web80409.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1199072528-1068843878=:81555 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii No, just "the goods" as in a great show! (I wish I had a camera, though) Tom. DG wrote: TOMORROW NIGHT FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( and maybe 4 other gatherers) "got the goods? as in recordings? pics? video? ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Kennedy To: gathering Sent: Friday, 14 November, 2003 01:42 Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone........Jello Biafra was there. We got the goods.... Tom. --0-1199072528-1068843878=:81555 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
No, just "the goods" as in a great show!   (I wish I had a camera, though)
 
Tom.


DG <damebo@mindspring.com> wrote:
TOMORROW NIGHT FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ( and maybe 4 other gatherers)   "got the goods?  as in recordings? pics? video?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, 14 November, 2003 01:42
Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!!

I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone........Jello Biafra was there.  We got the goods....
 
Tom.
--0-1199072528-1068843878=:81555-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 21:08:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Michael Garcia) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:08:19 -0800 Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! - References: <9842768.1068843854829.JavaMail.root@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000e01c3aaf3$6e00b1e0$5abf9b0c@dragonflmznxwc> DNA lounge! ----- Original Message ----- From: "D G" To: Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!! - > Is that NMA show @ the DNA or Paradise Lounge??? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Garcia > Sent: Nov 14, 2003 10:30 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!! - > > > Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!! > > > > > >
Sf Got to the gig last night in Sf early. The > tour bus was parked right in front and I couldnt believe that there was actually > a line to get in. If fact the place was absolutelty full. I'd say very close to > a sellout night. No sign of the boys though. Amen was crap (in my humble > opinion). Killing joke was in great form. Incredibly tight as a matter of fact. > More so than I've ever seen them. Jaz in a great mood, Geordie smiling and > hamming it up with Raven. Ted pounding the skins as only a true Joke drummer > can. I'm not going to write the setlist down as I think (and Tom can probably > confirm this) they played evey song that I've seen in all the sets posted here. > They even played Follow the Leaders. Highlights for me were D&R Show, Follow > The Leaders, Asteriod and Psyche. Jaz even went off on someone in the crowd > for a bit even though I couldn't really make out what he was > saying. Although I picked up the words "Fucker" and "Cunt" used > several times. Before the show I saw someone with an Extremities shirt on so I > decided to ask if he was on the Gathering, and low and behold it was our own Tom > Kennedy! It was great to chat with him for a while. I did meet someone else from > the list later in the evening but by that point the drinks were starting to take > over my short term memory was toast. All in all a great night indeed. Next week > New Model Army two doors down from where last night's show was.' ahh. it's a > great month...
>
>
Cheers,
>
No longer lurking as much,
>
Michael
>
>
PS Tom I havent screamed and danced that much in a > long time. This 35 year old body is feeling it this morning!
>
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> >
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:56 > AM
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Subject: Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
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C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!!

Alex in > NYC



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From: Thomas Kennedy < href="mailto:tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.net">tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.net>
To: > gathering < href="mailto:gathering@misera.net">gathering@misera.net>
Subject: > [kj] SF kicked ass!!
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM


>
I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is > gone........Jello Biafra was there. We got the > goods....

Tom.

> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 21:07:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:07:52 -0500 Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! Message-ID: <200311142107.hAEL7ncw010767@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151670872_1359557_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit There ya go. Nicely done, Tom. I'm glad to hear of the band in good spirits....that means they'll keep at it for a while, I expect. Alex in NYC ---------- From: Thomas Kennedy To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!! Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:03 PM (and more you shall get, Alex!....) :) Okay, I'm awake now and drinking my echinacea tea, so I'll try and do this: Great, great show. KILLING JOKE was on their game last night - playing for almost TWO HOURS!! The set was similar to the lists I've seen for other shows, but for the last 1/3 or so they seemed to be going on-the-fly for what they decided to play (Jaz would be talking to raven, then Geordie, then go into a little speech before the songs). "Frenzy", "Follow the leaders", "Empire Song" (which I think Jaz said we didn't normally get on this tour) were played - the only song they didn't do (now that I remember) was "Loose Cannon." Me and Bob Read both agreed the best song of the night was "Kings and Queens" - they fucking rocked that one!!! They were loud as hell! (my ears are ringing) The packed crowd was into it from the get-go - with even a pit for 'Communion'. I was in the front/pit area on raven's side for the whole show except for when I had to take a breather and re-hydrate (with water!.....yes, I was sufficiently intoxicated) These two chicks kept trying to fight me during 'Requiem', as, apparently, I was to blame for the increasing pit around them - which I wasn't, I was just standing there. I tried to apologize, but also added "Wait 'til 'BLood on your hands" ; ) (I didn't hear from them more after that) Geordie was wearing those parachute pants (that didn't match, as Alex pointed out), and Jaz and raven were in face makeup, much like the pictures previously posted. raven went onstage slamming a bottle of wine (ha!ha!) I didn't have a camera, so no pictures I'm afraid... I met Mr. Michael Garcia at the show - I was in the back drinking an Amstel Light during AMEN (who I thought were one of the better punk bands I've seen recently) when this guy walks by and asks me if I was from the Gathering, I said I was, and I met him and his girlfriend and bandmate, I think (....sorry if I'm wrong - a bit faded!) We then had a couple more rounds and waited for the 'JOKE to start. Part-time gatherer Bob Read was there as well, making it now three people from this list I've met in person! Aleph was there too, but managed to avoid detection - the only person with red-hair I saw was this big guy with a half-mohawk. (Bob Read said that wasn't him) : ) Anyway, it was a great experience! Seeing KJ with such a good crowd was awesome, and the band seemed totally into it. At the end of 'Pandemonium' crescendo with the crowd screaming, a beaming-Jaz exclaimed "I want to thank all of you!..You've made me very fucking happy!" Him and raven and Geordie were all hugging each other and it was a really cool moment. At the end, me and Bob Read were in the merch line when we saw Jello Biafra walk by -him and a few people were waiting by the backstage area. (A conversation between Jello and Jaz would be interesting to say the least!) I bought an XL "Jaz" shirt and said goodbye's to everyone and went outside by their tourbus. The only one who came outside (briefly) was Geordie, whom I offered "Geordie, you guys rocked!" He said thanks!) I wanted to talk to raven (who I met at Gary Numan in Hollywood a couple of years ago) but it wasn't to be this time. (no worries) All in all, a great evening at the KILLING JOKE show. Even though Jaz said one of us were going to be dead by the time they got back (ha!ha!), I hope they stay in good health so they can keep playing for a while! 'Til the next time. HOUNOR THE FIRE! Tom. C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!! Alex in NYC ---------- From: Thomas Kennedy To: gathering Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!! Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone........Jello Biafra was there. We got the goods.... Tom. --MS_Mac_OE_3151670872_1359557_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
There ya go. Nicely done, Tom.

I'm glad to hear of the band in good spirits....that means they'll keep at = it for a while, I expect.

Alex in NYC



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From: Thomas Kennedy <tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.net>
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:03 PM


(and more you shall get, Alex!....)  :)
 
Okay, I'm awake now and drinking my echinacea tea, so I'll try and do this:=
 
Great, great show.   KILLING JOKE was on their game last night - = playing for almost TWO HOURS!!    The set was similar to the = lists I've seen for other shows, but for the last 1/3 or so they seemed to b= e going on-the-fly for what they decided to play (Jaz would be talking to ra= ven, then Geordie, then go into a little speech before the songs).  &qu= ot;Frenzy", "Follow the leaders", "Empire Song" (wh= ich I think Jaz said we didn't normally get on this tour) were played - the = only song they didn't do (now that I remember) was "Loose Cannon."=   Me and Bob Read both agreed the best song of the night was &quo= t;Kings and Queens" - they fucking rocked that one!!!  
 
They were loud as hell!   (my ears are ringing)  The packed = crowd was into it from the get-go - with even a pit for 'Communion'.  &= nbsp;I was in the front/pit area on raven's side for the whole show except f= or when I had to take a breather and re-hydrate (with water!.....yes, I was = sufficiently intoxicated)  These two chicks kept trying to fight me dur= ing 'Requiem', as, apparently, I was to blame for the increasing pit around = them - which I wasn't, I was just standing there.  I tried to apologize= , but also added "Wait 'til 'BLood on your hands"  ; )  = (I didn't hear from them more after that)
 
Geordie was wearing those parachute pants (that didn't match, as Alex point= ed out), and Jaz and raven were in face makeup, much like the pictures previ= ously posted.  raven went onstage slamming a bottle of wine (ha!ha!) &n= bsp; I didn't have a camera, so no pictures I'm afraid...   &= nbsp;I met Mr. Michael Garcia at the show - I was in the back drinking an Am= stel Light during AMEN (who I thought were one of the better punk bands I've= seen recently) when this guy walks by and asks me if I was from the Gatheri= ng, I said I was, and I met him and his girlfriend and bandmate, I think (..= ..sorry if I'm wrong - a bit faded!)   We then had a couple more r= ounds and waited for the 'JOKE to start.   Part-time gatherer Bob = Read was there as well, making it now three people from this list I've met i= n person!   Aleph was there too, but managed to avoid detection - = the only person with red-hair I saw was this big guy with a half-mohawk. &nb= sp;(Bob Read said that wasn't him)  : )
 
Anyway, it was a great experience!   Seeing KJ with such a good c= rowd was awesome, and the band seemed totally into it.   At the en= d of 'Pandemonium' crescendo with the crowd screaming, a beaming-Jaz exclaim= ed "I want to thank all of you!..You've made me very fucking happy!&quo= t;   Him and raven and Geordie were all hugging each other and it = was a really cool moment.  
 
At the end, me and Bob Read were in the merch line when we saw Jello Biafra= walk by -him and a few people were waiting by the backstage area.  (A = conversation between Jello and Jaz would be interesting to say the least!) &= nbsp; I bought an XL "Jaz" shirt and said goodbye's to everyo= ne and went outside by their tourbus.   The only one who came outs= ide (briefly) was Geordie, whom I offered "Geordie, you guys rocked!&qu= ot;   He said thanks!)   I wanted to talk to raven (who = I met at Gary Numan in Hollywood a couple of years ago) but it wasn't to be = this time.  (no worries)
 
All in all, a great evening at the KILLING JOKE show.   Even thou= gh Jaz said one of us were going to be dead by the time they got back (ha!ha= !), I hope they stay in good health so they can keep playing for a while! &n= bsp;  'Til the next time.
 
HOUNOR THE FIRE!
 
Tom.
 

 

C'mon, Tom....we need more than that!!!

Alex in NYC



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From: Thomas Kennedy <tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.ne= t>
To: gathering <gathering@misera.net&= gt;
Subject: [kj] SF kicked ass!!
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 4:42 AM


I'm bruised......my ears are blasted........my voice is gone...= .....Jello Biafra was there.  We got the goods....
 
Tom.


--MS_Mac_OE_3151670872_1359557_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 21:34:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Brian Whitehead) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:34:17 -0000 Subject: [kj] O/T a little entertainment Message-ID: <019e01c3aaf7$0f5923d0$f7997ad5@EmmaJane> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_019B_01C3AAF7.0E6F8720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you get board between KJ tours.... http://www.btinternet.com/~fallofbecause/Ha/minipops_quiz.xls=20 Brian. ------=_NextPart_000_019B_01C3AAF7.0E6F8720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you get board between KJ tours....
 
Brian.
------=_NextPart_000_019B_01C3AAF7.0E6F8720-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 21:48:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:48:56 -0500 Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! Message-ID: <200311142148.hAELlWd0013767@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151673336_1507822_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some truly great news today that has significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! Alex in NYC --MS_Mac_OE_3151673336_1507822_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!!


Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and truly sic= k of my job, I received some truly great news today that has significantly l= ifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the results back from m= y wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and we got the all clear, me= aning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a cl= oud as a result!

    Alex in NYC
--MS_Mac_OE_3151673336_1507822_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 22:10:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (parasikon) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:10:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! In-Reply-To: <200311142148.hAELlWd0013767@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031114221033.75431.qmail@web20413.mail.yahoo.com> --0-143947237-1068847833=:71318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's good news Alex.Must have missed the post.I didn't realize your wife and you were expecting.Congratulations and wishes of nothing but the best.Kids give you an extra set of eyes to live through.It's amazing. - chris Alex Smith wrote: Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some truly great news today that has significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! Alex in NYC --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-143947237-1068847833=:71318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
That's good news Alex.Must have missed the post.I didn't realize your wife and you were expecting.Congratulations and wishes of nothing but the best.Kids give you an extra set of eyes to live through.It's amazing.
                                         - chris

Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:


Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some truly great news today that has significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result!

    Alex in NYC

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-143947237-1068847833=:71318-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 22:18:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Brian Whitehead) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:18:31 -0000 Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! References: <20031114221033.75431.qmail@web20413.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <021901c3aafd$3d24de20$f7997ad5@EmmaJane> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0216_01C3AAFD.3C7934D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent! I was there a few months ago so I know how you feel. Brian, who need more sleep but somebody won't let me Alex Smith wrote: Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and = truly sick of my job, I received some truly great news today that has = significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the = results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and = we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, = fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result!=20 Alex in NYC -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0216_01C3AAFD.3C7934D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Excellent!
I was there a few months ago so I know = how you=20 feel.
 
Brian, who need more sleep but somebody = won't let=20 me
 
Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net>= =20 wrote:


Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin = at the=20 moment and truly sick of my job, I received some truly great news = today=20 that has significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over my = head. We=20 got the results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (three = days early)=20 and we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, = normal,=20 fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result!=20

    Alex in = NYC

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0216_01C3AAFD.3C7934D0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 22:43:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christophe Barry) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:43:33 +0100 Subject: [kj] large debate wanted References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031110184920.029e8460@127.0.0.1> <00c701c3a93e$e92fdb40$4145cf18@d2k3a5> Message-ID: <004201c3ab00$bc48e770$5ffda8c0@SACHA> hello Gatherers Since the last conversation we had with frenchy frenzy (Aka 'video' Stephane) we both anjoyed the quality of Paris gig more than the others even in the mythical Astoria for 2 nights (for me) and for these nights , camden and geneva for Stephane. The only reason that we can bring out of our reflexion, was really simple: after being backstage many times (5 for Stephane ...) we could just say Jaz seemed to be sober in Paris (even weed ...) Any reaction over ? Christophe (4 days till Beaujolais Nouveau) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 22:54:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (D G) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:54:21 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [kj] Pre-Show Piss Up? Message-ID: <6011290.1068850462438.JavaMail.root@wamui03.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Do any L.A. gatherers want to meet up somewhere before the show? I'm still stuck at work for maybe another hour, but I'm trying to find a spot that would suffice for a Gathering, a friend is supposed to call back w/ some suggestions. I'm hoping to actually meet some of you'se as I'm pretty new to So.Cal., originally from S.F. I think some strong drinks w/ new friends is in order. If you can't meet up, look for me at the show. I'm a skinny white guy, short brown hair, probably wearing boots, black fatigues, and some sort of t-shirt. (I should stick right out) I'll be w/ my wife, who has shoulder length (bleached) blond hair w/ dark roots, and she's disabled, so she'll be walking w/ a cane (and probably a grimace of pain) Anyways, I hope this pans out, I'm amped for the show, and hope to find some kindred amongst the crowd. Y.T., Damebo (feel free to mail me off list) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 23:12:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jim=20Harper?=) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:12:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! In-Reply-To: <200311142148.hAELlWd0013767@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031114231249.31689.qmail@web25004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1763993293-1068851569=:30351 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Great news Alex, I'm really pleased for you. Alex Smith wrote: Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some truly great news today that has significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! Alex in NYC --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1763993293-1068851569=:30351 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Great news Alex, I'm really pleased for you.

Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:


Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some truly great news today that has significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result!

    Alex in NYC

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1763993293-1068851569=:30351-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 14 23:44:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:44:19 +0100 Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! Message-ID:

nice one, alex!

just make sure the little one doesn't opt for April 20th.......



 

>From: "Alex Smith"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!!
>Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:48:56 -0500
>
>
>
>Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and truly sick
>of my job, I received some truly great news today that has significantly
>lifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the results back from
>my wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and we got the all clear,
>meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a
>cloud as a result!
>
> Alex in NYC

MSN Easysurfer - Surfen Sie für 1,35 Cent / Minute Hier klicken From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 00:54:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:54:29 -0500 Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! Message-ID: <7C48019E.7B028167.0004DF86@aol.com> Good news pal. Hope it all continues good. Jamie PS You will be very tired soon. LOL > Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some truly great news today that has significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 03:59:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Will E Scheipers) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:59:11 -0800 Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! Message-ID: <20031114.195911.1168.1.Wscheip1@juno.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_1172.531b.0b56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sleep! Ha! Right now the wife and my two sons are passing sicknesses back and forth, good luck Alex. From, Will On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:18:31 -0000 "Brian Whitehead" writes: Excellent! I was there a few months ago so I know how you feel. Brian, who need more sleep but somebody won't let me Alex Smith wrote: Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some truly great news today that has significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! Alex in NYC Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ----__JNP_000_1172.531b.0b56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sleep! Ha! Right now the wife and my two sons are passing sicknesses = back=20 and forth, good luck Alex.
 
From,
Will
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:18:31 -0000 "Brian Whitehead" <wittz@btinternet.com> writes:
Excellent!
I was there a few months ago so I know = how you=20 feel.
 
Brian, who need more sleep but somebody = won't let=20 me
 
Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net>=20 wrote:


Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin = at=20 the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some truly great = news=20 today that has significantly lifted the black, brooding cloud over = my=20 head. We got the results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today (= three=20 days early) and we got the all clear, meaning that our unborn baby = is=20 healthy, normal, fine and perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result!=20

    Alex in NYC

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----__JNP_000_1172.531b.0b56-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 01:23:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:23:06 EST Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! Message-ID: <126.3474ba0a.2ce6d9fa@aol.com> Congratulations, I wish you & the good lady all the best for the future. Lyle From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 01:51:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:51:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! In-Reply-To: <7C48019E.7B028167.0004DF86@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031115015110.65507.qmail@web80510.mail.yahoo.com> Wow, that's excellent. I know the feeling of a vocational tailspin, and I just got to see my 6-month-old nephew for the third time last night...definitely brightened my day after an unbelievably maddening day trapped in a cubicle. > > Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at > the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some > truly great news today that has significantly lifted > the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the > results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today > (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning > that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and > perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 02:09:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (tim rosa) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:09:35 -0800 Subject: [kj] blistering vancouver show Message-ID: It was blistering. Wish you were all there cause it was as good as it could ever get. Just as William said - they were in terrific spirits and that's what I enjoyed most of all. Laughing, the exchange of hugs, relaxed and having a good time. They seemed really pleased with how all the songs progressed. Jaz did have quite a bit to say between songs. Quite a few compliments for the populace contrasted with scathing vitriolic criticism aimed southward. It was such a long evening and so much was said really. Charged comments on world events, how it's been 25 years since they started killingjoke, how many managers they've gone through, how at home they felt, briefly commenting on each of the songs, etc... Mildly sauced (I think) and very energetic in his dark hooded glory. The venue was perfect and the sound turned out well. With the club packed you could still move around where ever you liked. The close circling balcony above offered a welcomed change of view. And you can probably expect some live footage of this show to turn up soon as I noticed more than one digicam filming. I was glad to see Cliff is still working hard with roadie duties. Working so hard that I didn't have the heart to really disturb him. Pre show I worked my way up to the stage where he was duct taping something down at the front and yelled out "Hey! Cliff!" - just so he knew somebody was there. Bloody good show. Next time around they're back this way for sure. tim --- ICQ#19192777 http://scumware.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Enter now for a chance to win a 42" Plasma Television! http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda1.com/1/c/563632/113422/313631/313631 AOL users go here: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;6413623;3807821;f?http://mocda1.com/1/c/563632/113422/313631/313631 This offer applies to U.S. Residents Only From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 04:00:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:00:13 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses In-Reply-To: <20031114085840.00897396B@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: I have a pic of one of the things that went bump in the night around here... http://www.killing-joke.com/albums/Jester/aat.sized.jpg This is the field directly behind our apartment. On 11/14/03 2:58 AM, "Rob's Arse" wrote: > > Last night, I spent 20 minutes typing a full account of all my weird goings on > in my house. > > One of the points I made was that, after research, I discovered that > supernatural occurances are more likely to happen when the energy is changed > in a building (i.e. children being born or alterations) > > As I sent it, my p.c. crashed. Totally freaked me out. We have the builders > in! > > > --- "nicholas fitzpatrick" wrote: > Ive been waiting for the haunted house thread to kick off, the one > inadvertently started by Joe about three weeks ago, which mysteriously > disappeared. > Ill continue regardless. > > First, Ill admit to having a soft spot for the classic Victorian ghost > story but I have never held a deep belief in ghosts and even now, after > possibly seeing one in my home, I still wouldnt particularly argue they > exist. > > For the past five years Ive lived in a turn-of-century house - Edwardian, I > guess - in South East London (would be better if it was Victorian). We > always had a funny feeling about it, but we put all those noises down to the > wind running free through its four-storeys. And I never took seriously the > story told to me by a former housemate who said that her friend - a > Brazilian girl who visited her once had refused to sleep in the spare > bedroom due to a malevolent male presence (the spare room is next to my > bedroom on the top floor yikes, Scooby). > > Well, to not drag this out any more than necessary, it was about two and a > half years ago when the following happened. It was 3.30 in the morning and I > was in bed reading. I was still awake at that time because I was ill with > shingles (adult chicken pox). Shingles hurts which is why I had been awake > all night, but I have to say I felt mentally 100% compos mentis. Shingles is > purely a physical pain caused by blistering on the back, but there was > absolutely no fever or other head effects with it, not in my case at least, > and I didnt feel down or depressed. > > At 3.30am I decided to stop reading and to go downstairs to make myself a > cup of tea and sit up for a bit. > > What happened next took a mere two seconds to happen but I cant explain it > that quickly. > > I got out of bed and walked out to the top of stairs. The landing was quite > dark as it is at the back of the house facing over the unkempt back garden > where theres no street lighting. The stairs go straight ahead and then > V-turn back around and run down to the lower landing. > > As soon as I walked out onto the top landing, out of the corner of my right > eye I was instantly aware of a presence, male it seemed, on the lower > landing. My instant thought was that it must be my housemate as it was > outside his bedroom, but as soon as that thought occurred to me it also > instantly hit me that there had been absolutely no noise whatsoever no > door opening, no steps on the floorboards etc just total silence. This had > the effect of mildly stunning me. I began then to turn to look at whatever > it was and all I can say is that as I turned this thing appeared to shrink > into a white orb a bit bigger than a cricket ball and appeared to be gliding > up the stairs. Just as I was about to finally lay my eyes on it (I admit > that I didnt really get the chance to look at it directly) it did a sudden > 90 degree turn to the left and disappeared under the stairs below me. > > I stood there for about a minute taking it in. I was still fairly stunned > but in a perfectly pleasant kind of way. It obviously hadnt been a living > housemate and I ruled out the chance of an intruder. This left me thinking > that it had been an hallucination or what some people might just call a > ghost. The idea that it had been a ghost, I must admit, quite entertained me > and Ive enjoyed telling this tale a few times, although I know it isnt > particularly dramatic; I mean this is not exactly Poltergeist. > > I ultimately rationalise it, though. I tell myself that although I felt > fine, the truth is I probably hadnt slept for about 20 hours, and even if > tiredness wasnt to blame, nor any history of hallucinations, my body > chemistry would have been all mixed up due to the shingles, meaning that > some chemicals in my brain that wouldnt normally mix suddenly did do and > this caused some prolonged flash effect on my neurons or retina or whatever. > > But despite this, I couldnt get the story told to me by the local priest a > few months earlier out of my mind > > [Just stick with this for another minute if you can, please] > > Several months prior to the above event, I took a day off work in the run up > to Christmas to do some shopping. On my way home at about 5.30 I decided to > pop into my local pub (the Grove on Camberwell Grove) for a pint. I was sat > at the bar on my own when in walked the local priest. I had never seen him > before but he was dressed as a priest and looked like the typical English > village vicar (Ill assume everyone knows what I mean by that). Father > Rodney, as everybody in the bar who greeted him called him, pulled up at the > bar next to me and ordered a drink. > > Again, to get to the point, we began talking. We got on quite merrily, he > bought me a drink, I him. We ran through a few topics: local gossip, local > history, crime rate and other social issues, probably a bit of theology > even. Then, after about 45 minutes he asked me where I live. I said that I > lived at (forgive me if I dont broadcast my address; Im sure everyone > here is perfectly fine but you never know, do you). He looked like he was > trying to picture it and asked me to describe EXACTLY where the house was. > So I said: You walk down X Road, turn left on to X Street and its the > first house on your left. > > Oh my god, you dont live there do you?! > Yes, why? > There was a big murder there in 1979 and I buried the victim. > > > (Sorry Ive got to go, but all this is totally true). > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 04:42:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alexi Hamilton) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:42:38 +0000 Subject: [kj] Australian Tour dates (fwd) Message-ID:


Well, Andy...he was sending it to Joe...hehehe

~Alexi

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>Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:49:25 +1100
>From: scott.lambeth@hic.gov.au
>To: gatherin@misera.net
>Subject: Australian Tour dates
>
>Hey Joe.
>
>Just for completeness mate, you might wanna add the following Aussie tour
>dates to your site:
>
>Nov 19 - The Metro, Sydney
>Nov 21 - The Arena, Brisbane
>Nov 23 - The HiFi Bar & Ballroom, Melbourne.
>
>Other than m'self & Michele, is there any other Gatherers going?
>
>-S
>
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 * Prices may vary by service area. From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 04:46:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alexi Hamilton) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:46:34 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID:

Grand Funk Railroad is from Oklahoma?  Alice Cooper is an Okie from a town west of Tulsa.  Can't remember the name of it right off hand.  I kid you not.  Oklahoman's have a born knowledge of who's from there.  I don't understand it but I do have the knowledge...Brad Pitt is an Okie too.  Whoopie.

~Alexi




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>From: "Christof hamille"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
>Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:19:34 -0500
>
>I think that is kind of a stretch also. I mean they both have
>guitars, bass and drums. the latest Turbonegro has more of a The
>Alice Cooper BAND (you know, Killer, Love It To Death, when THEY
>were great) but is still incredible. It is kind of like saying
>Grand Funk Railroad and Alice Cooper sound similar. They sort of do
>(because being from the same era) but really they are worlds apart
>and one always sucked.
>
>Wipe It Til' It Bleeds
>
>Chris
>
>>From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk
>>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>>To: gathering@misera.net
>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
>>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:31:25 +0000
>>
>>No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The
>>Darkness... Turbo are the best band I've heard in fucking years,
>>the Darkness remind me of all the cunts at school into shit metal
>>in the early 80's!!!
>>When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the
>>dates coming up?
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>>>Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates
>>>'Turbs' as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them.
>>>
>>>I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically
>>>they're a bit Darknessy but with a better singer.
>>>
>>>I'll stick with Mars Volta I think.
>>>
>>>Christof hamille wrote:
>>>they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was
>>>excellent.
>>>
>>>I am the denim demon
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "DG"
>>> >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>>> >To:
>>> >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
>>> >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800
>>> >
>>> >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any
>>>good.
>>> >Nothing
>>> >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo.
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: "Arvid Mork"
>>> >To:
>>> >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53
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>>> > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway
>>> > > will tour UK in December
>>> > >
>>> > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look
>>>any good ! :>
>>> > >
>>> > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :>
>>> > >
>>> > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller
>>> > >
>>> > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever)
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO
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>>> > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK
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>>> > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO
>>> > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK
>>> > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK
>>> > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE
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>>> > >
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   We are very pissed off as New Model Army played here tonight as an early show.  We didn't know this til an hour after they went on.  When we bought the tix, there was no notice that it was an early show.  I have a feeling that I'll never again get the chance to see NMA again.  I've been waiting for almost 2 decades to get the chance to see them.  Could you take pics or videotape the show if possible?

I'm going to see if I can't pull a miracle and hit the Kansas City show Monday night.  Doubtful it will happen though.

~Alexi




. Next week New Model Army two doors down from where last night's show was.' ahh. it's a great month...
>
>Cheers,

From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE! From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 05:07:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:07:25 -0500 Subject: [kj] ot - mpeg to vcd Message-ID: <009701c3ab36$5c8e01e0$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C3AB0C.73333980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i am in need of a pc program that can manage downloads of mpeg and other = video files and convert them to vcd, dvd etc. preferably freeware and with no spys, aureates, trojans etc.. any recommendations? ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C3AB0C.73333980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i am in need of a pc program that can manage = downloads of mpeg=20 and other video files and convert them to vcd, = dvd etc.
preferably freeware and with no spys, aureates, = trojans=20 etc..
 
any = recommendations? 
------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C3AB0C.73333980-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 05:16:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:16:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! In-Reply-To: <126.3474ba0a.2ce6d9fa@aol.com> from "MADELYLE@aol.com" at Nov 14, 2003 08:23:06 PM Message-ID: <200311150516.hAF5GEBf021691@basil.jkm.net> > Congratulations, > I wish you & the good lady all the best for the future. So Alex..... did you guys decide not to "peek" (eg not know the sex of the baby)? ;-) You see, everyone needs to know what sort of presents to get ;-) ;-) ;-) What a relief to have that out of the way! --Amy, mom to two; now over 35 and would need to have an amnio if, of course, hell freezes over and I decide to have another baby ;-) From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 05:58:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:58:27 -0600 Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! In-Reply-To: <200311150516.hAF5GEBf021691@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: On 11/14/03 11:16 PM, "Amy Moseley Rupp" wrote: > --Amy, mom to two; now over 35 and would need to have > an amnio if, of course, hell freezes over and I decide > to have another baby ;-) If you are ever in fear of Hell freezing over, email me. I will send you one of my three, just so you can see how over the top three at once can be. I am amazed every day that I still have some amount of sanity left. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 08:01:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:01:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] ot - mpeg to vcd In-Reply-To: <009701c3ab36$5c8e01e0$338b6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031115090104.B44855-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, fluw wrote: > i am in need of a pc program that can manage downloads of mpeg and other video files and convert them to vcd, dvd etc. > preferably freeware and with no spys, aureates, trojans etc.. > > any recommendations? Nero can convert mpeg video to VCD compliant mpeg on the fly, www.ahead.de and google for a crack :P b From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 08:31:26 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bob Barathy) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:31:26 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C3AB52.DC5790A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe said... I have a pic of one of the things that went bump in the night around here... http://www.killing-joke.com/albums/Jester/aat.sized.jpg This is the field directly behind our apartment. It must be my old eyes - I can't see anything. Can you point me to what I'm obviously missing please. Bob ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C3AB52.DC5790A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Joe said...

I have a pic of one of the things = that went=20 bump in the night around here...

http://www.killing-joke.com/albums/Jester/aat.sized.jpg

This=20 is the field directly behind our apartment.

It must=20 be my old eyes - I can't see anything. Can you point me to what I'm = obviously=20 missing please.

Bob

------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C3AB52.DC5790A0-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 11:46:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 06:46:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! Message-ID: <1A7B6074.7F5E2685.0004DF86@aol.com> webmaster@killing-joke.com writes: > If you are ever in fear of Hell freezing over, email me. I will send you one of my three, just so you can see how over the top three at once can be. I am amazed every day that I still have some amount of sanity left. Anyone wish to comment on Joe's claim to still have some sanity? ;) Jamie (who has two and wants two more) From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 13:01:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?killing=20joke?=) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:01:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] A CD CALLED LOVE LIKE BLOOD Message-ID: <20031115130150.34037.qmail@web25107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1196698760-1068901310=:33918 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Gatherers I've just purchased a 17 track live cd called "Love Like Blood" all the sleeve notes are inaccurate but the sound is pretty good, the covers not colesy's though, it's a pic of the boys in their lets look like duran duran while we try to break the states look from about 854 /86 the tracklisting is very strong though Anyone want to know more or want a copy burning for a fiver plus postage? Cheers akj aka markgholt --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1196698760-1068901310=:33918 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello Gatherers
I've just purchased a 17 track live cd called "Love Like Blood"
all the sleeve notes are inaccurate but the sound is pretty good, the covers not colesy's though, it's a pic of the boys in their lets look like duran duran while we try to break the states look from about 854 /86 the tracklisting is very strong though
Anyone want to know more or want a copy burning for a fiver plus postage?
Cheers
akj aka markgholt
 

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1196698760-1068901310=:33918-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 13:55:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:55:46 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3151727747_4776707 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 11/15/03 2:31 AM, "Bob Barathy" wrote: > Joe said... >=20 > I have a pic of one of the things that went bump in the night around here= ... >=20 > http://www.killing-joke.com/albums/Jester/aat.sized.jpg >=20 > This is the field directly behind our apartment. >=20 > It must be my old eyes - I can't see anything. Can you point me to what I= 'm > obviously missing please. >=20 > Bob >=20 Look for two sets of =B3glowing eyes=B2. One set is close to the front of the dark shadow, slightly to right of the middle of the pic, glowing red..... and another set is way off in the distance, glowing white, and to the left and above the red eyes. There is also a set of two very small orbs at the bottom right hand side of the picture, VERY close together, and to the left of that, is a bit of a smoky apparition. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 --B_3151727747_4776707 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses On 11/15/03 2:31 AM, &q= uot;Bob Barathy" <bob@bbarathy.plus.com> wrote:

Joe said...

I have a pic of one of the things that went bump in the night around here..= .

http://ww= w.killing-joke.com/albums/Jester/aat.sized.jpg

This is the field directly behind our apartment.

It must be my old eyes - I can't see anything. Can yo= u point me to what I'm obviously missing please.

Bob

Look for two sets of “glowing eyes”. One set is close to the= front of the dark shadow, slightly to right of the middle of the pic, glowi= ng red..... and another set is way off in the distance, glowing white, and t= o the left and above the red eyes. There is also a set of two very small orb= s at the bottom right hand side of the picture, VERY close together, and to = the left of that, is a bit of a smoky apparition.

KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

--B_3151727747_4776707-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 14:35:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:35:39 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!! In-Reply-To: <1A7B6074.7F5E2685.0004DF86@aol.com> from "Jpwhkj@aol.com" at Nov 15, 2003 06:46:41 AM Message-ID: <200311151435.hAFEZd55024272@basil.jkm.net> > > If you are ever in fear of Hell freezing over, email me. I will send you one of my three, just so you can see how over the top three at once can be. I am amazed every day that I still have some amount of sanity left. > > Anyone wish to comment on Joe's claim to still have some sanity? ;) > > Jamie (who has two and wants two more) Well, I have two and I'm a single mom. I think with two parents I could do one more. But IIRC Joe's are all under five, which adds a special touch of insane glee to the mix ;-) My two are eleven and four, and while that big age spread actually makes things harder, they *are* older, and don't require such constant changing/feeding/burping/watching-to- make-sure-they-don't-kill-themselves-or-each-other ;-) OTOH, the eleven year old is a tweener (US speak for the pre-teen years of oh, 10-12, not a tweenie, the UK telly program for preschoolers). This means she's into the "I hate you" phase. And she and the four-year-old can row about anything..... but mostly who's getting the most attention! I think that the decision to have a child (if one decides, rather than has one show up) is really so dependent on the parents' abilities and desires and the needs of the existing kids! Having extended family and friends around to help is also a HUGE factor. So, short of miraculously conceiving Ian McCulloch's love child ;-) ;-) ;-) I'm staying at two. --Amy, SHOCKED that Australia beat New Zealand! From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 15:00:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:00:04 +0000 Subject: [kj] live cd Message-ID: --============_-1143214086==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hello Gatherers I've just purchased a 17 track live cd called "Love Like Blood" isn't that the lorelei concert from nwobfg...? colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1143214086==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" live cd
Hello Gatherers
I've just purchased a 17 track live cd called "Love Like Blood"
isn't that the lorelei concert from nwobfg...?
colesy
--
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk
... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
--============_-1143214086==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 15:04:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:04:39 +0000 Subject: [kj] healthy kids Message-ID: My two are sixteen (yesterday) and eleven. Sixteen has just told me she's got a gig at the Jazz Cafe. On my birthday!! That's worth all the sleepless nights in the world... colesy, a very proud dad -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 15:19:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Michele Marchesan) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:19:34 +0100 Subject: [kj] sydney References: <20031114085840.00897396B@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <002501c3ab8b$e0862f40$99651997@tmg32> scott, I'm heading downunder... get a cascade ready see ya in sydney the joke! M. From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 15:24:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (death wish) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:24:07 +0000 Subject: [kj] A CD CALLED LOVE LIKE BLOOD / Is there a No Way... DVD? Message-ID: Er, no. What you've got there is a shitty German issue of the No Way Out But Forward Go show, which does sport a snazzy Colesy cover and includes a video cd of the show. Speaking of which, did No Way Out... ever come out on DVD? Region Free? T. >From: killing joke >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] A CD CALLED LOVE LIKE BLOOD >Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:01:50 +0000 (GMT) > >Hello Gatherers >I've just purchased a 17 track live cd called "Love Like Blood" >all the sleeve notes are inaccurate but the sound is pretty good, the >covers not colesy's though, it's a pic of the boys in their lets look like >duran duran while we try to break the states look from about 854 /86 the >tracklisting is very strong though >Anyone want to know more or want a copy burning for a fiver plus postage? >Cheers >akj aka markgholt > > > >--------------------------------- >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE >Yahoo!Messenger _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 15:35:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christophe Barry) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:35:34 +0100 Subject: [Kj] for those that knows a bit in french language Message-ID: <001a01c3ab8e$1c968c80$5f02a8c0@SACHA> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3AB96.7DF92570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's the only info I found on french lectures about the last album of our fav boyz-band: http://www.lesinrocks.com/DetailCritique.cfm?iditem=3D161749 c. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3AB96.7DF92570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's the only info I found on french=20 lectures
about the last album of our fav=20 boyz-band:
htt= p://www.lesinrocks.com/DetailCritique.cfm?iditem=3D161749
c.
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3AB96.7DF92570-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 16:15:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:15:03 -0500 Subject: [kj] take the future in your hands now - 006 Message-ID: <002201c3ab93$a1a9ae20$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C3AB69.B79DE540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable opening the package i see a medium sized pizza box and on chaos of black = and red it abrogates "accept ye not false gods". wow, one thinks, this = must be some pie! i open the lid and on the inside is a large sticker = 006=20 and there it is, indeed an absolutely stunning aesthetic and stout = product ta boot - and yes, time moves backwards.=20 anyway #006 has arrived and is now on the wall. as it tick tocks, i feel = something's changing, anti aging, feel oh so human! i will not describe the contents of the package so as not to spoil the = surprises for those who have ordered 007-100, but suffice to say Sir = Michael Of Coles went waaaay beyond the call of duty supplying extra = goodies and adding to the package of=20 this venerate malicious time piece.=20 the clock is a must have! =20 you, sir mike, are a class act=20 reyemfluwddot namuhoshoginleef ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C3AB69.B79DE540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
opening the package i see a medium sized pizza = box and=20 on chaos of black and red it abrogates "accept ye not = false=20 gods".  wow, one thinks, this must be some pie! i open the lid = and on=20 the inside is a large sticker 006 
and there it is, indeed an absolutely stunning = aesthetic=20 and stout product ta boot - and yes, time moves backwards. =
anyway #006 has arrived and is now on the=20 wall. as it tick tocks, i feel something's changing, anti=20 aging, feel oh so human!
 
i will not describe the contents of the = package so as not=20 to spoil the surprises for those who have ordered 007-100, but = suffice=20 to say Sir Michael Of Coles went waaaay beyond the call of duty=20 supplying extra goodies and adding to the package of =
this venerate malicious time piece. =
 
the clock is a must have!  
 
you, sir mike, are a class act 
 
reyemfluwddot namuhoshoginleef
 
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C3AB69.B79DE540-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 17:06:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bob Barathy) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:06:40 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3AB9A.D6028AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Re: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses Look for two sets of “glowing eyes”. thems would be those terrible growling beasts with four wheels and an engine, spewing out great plumes of smoke would they not? ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3AB9A.D6028AF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses
 
Look for two sets of = =93glowing=20 eyes=94.  
 
thems = would be those=20 terrible growling beasts with four wheels and an engine, = spewing out=20 great plumes of smoke would they=20 not?

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3AB9A.D6028AF0-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 17:37:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:37:38 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3151741059_5569182 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 11/15/03 11:06 AM, "Bob Barathy" wrote: > =20 >> =20 >> Look for two sets of =93glowing eyes=94. >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> thems would be those terrible growling beasts with four wheels and an >> engine, spewing out great plumes of smoke would they not? >>=20 >=20 I would guess so, if there were a pathway for them types of demons back there. As it were, it is an area completely devoid of such things. Add to that, there has never been any traffic back there in the woods or the fields. Cant really get to it, as it is all surrounded by barbed wire fence= . Plus, I have never seen red head lights...especially, that close. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 --B_3151741059_5569182 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses On 11/15/03 11:06 AM, &= quot;Bob Barathy" <bob@bbarathy.plus.com> wrote:



Look for two sets of =93glowing  eyes=94.

 
 
thems would be those  terrible growling beasts w= ith four wheels and an engine, spewing out  great plumes of smoke would= they  not?


I would guess so, if there were a pathway for them types of demons back = there. As it were, it is an area completely devoid of such things. Add to th= at, there has never been any traffic back there in the woods or the fields. = Cant really get to it, as it is all surrounded by barbed wire fence. Plus, I= have never seen red head lights...especially, that close.

KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HO= NOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

--B_3151741059_5569182-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 18:10:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:10:23 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - press harrassed/censored by US troops Message-ID: <004c01c3aba3$bda79000$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C3AB79.D45468C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable talk about pawns, war is sold through traitorous deceit. then the troops = do what they can to make sure the only ones who care about them, their = own people, don't receive free information about the war. so they can = carry on and die for the lies of draft dodging crotch stuffing poseurs. = meat headed chumps fall for the pseudo machismo john wayne crap = everytime... ah the joke that kills: = http://www.editorandpublisher.com/editorandpublisher/headlines/article_di= splay.jsp?vnu_content_id=3D2027078 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C3AB79.D45468C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
talk about pawns, war is sold through traitorous = deceit. then=20 the troops do what they can to make sure the only ones who = care about=20 them, their own people, don't receive free information about the = war. so=20 they can carry on and die for the lies of draft = dodging=20 crotch stuffing poseurs. meat headed chumps fall for the pseudo = machismo=20 john wayne crap everytime...  ah the joke that=20 kills:
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C3AB7B.00DE4680-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 19:03:26 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (death wish) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:03:26 +0000 Subject: [kj] Thread: best KJ recordings (live) from each era. Message-ID: Thread: best KJ recordings (live) from each era. Discuss. Anyone? T. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 19:12:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:12:36 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [kj] OT - press harrassed/censored by US troops In-Reply-To: <004c01c3aba3$bda79000$338b6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: There is no evidence that it is a top-down policy. On the other hand, such actions are not completely inconsistent with a few statements by Pres. Bush. He talked about going past the filter of the media and directly to the people. That's his prerogative, and I think a president should be doing more news conferences and speeches directly to the people anyway. I could definitely see frustrated guys on the ground giving journalists a hard time. You sign up mainly to get money for college, and then find yourself on an extended stay in the desert. Someone else is taking pictures of some ugly thing that's just happened that you never wanted to be involved with in the first place. I heard an interview with a soldier's wife recently. She was asked if she supported what was going on, if it was a good idea. The way she stammered and second-guessed as she spoke told me that emotionally she could only conclude that her husband was over there for something good and necessary. And maybe he is. But at that single, human level they are so close to it that it's too painful to examine it critically. --Mark On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, fluw wrote: > talk about pawns, war is sold through traitorous deceit. then the > troops do what they can to make sure the only ones who care about > them, their own people, don't receive free information about the war. > so they can carry on and die for the lies of draft dodging crotch > stuffing poseurs. meat headed chumps fall for the pseudo machismo john > wayne crap everytime... ah the joke that kills: > > > http://www.editorandpublisher.com/editorandpublisher/headlines/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=2027078 From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 19:16:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:16:58 EST Subject: [kj] OT - press harrassed/censored by US troops Message-ID: <19b.1d2c47fb.2ce7d5aa@aol.com> --part1_19b.1d2c47fb.2ce7d5aa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the articles. As an activist, I get lots of good anti-war articles on other lists (from both US and UK papers)--I can forward the really good ones if people are interested! --part1_19b.1d2c47fb.2ce7d5aa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the articles. As an activist, I get lots of= good anti-war articles on other lists (from both US and UK papers)--I can f= orward the really good ones if people are interested! --part1_19b.1d2c47fb.2ce7d5aa_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 19:25:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:25:00 EST Subject: [kj] OT - press harrassed/censored by US troops Message-ID: <76.34d0d8f4.2ce7d78c@aol.com> --part1_76.34d0d8f4.2ce7d78c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's been know since the mid-90s that the US was planning this invasion of Iraq over control of oil sales (their think tanks and business journals admitted it). Some troops now know this, and some don't. But that doesn't excuse what some US/UK troops are doing over there. They would be better off refusing orders to shoot/torture/and home-invade the Iraqi civilians. This would, as in Vietnam, lead to a quicker end to the war and the safe return of troops home. --part1_76.34d0d8f4.2ce7d78c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's been know since the mid-90s that the US was plann= ing this invasion of Iraq over control of oil sales (their think tanks and b= usiness journals admitted it). Some troops now know this, and some don't. Bu= t that doesn't excuse what some US/UK troops are doing over there. They woul= d be better off refusing orders to shoot/torture/and home-invade the Iraqi c= ivilians. This would, as in Vietnam, lead to a quicker end to the war and th= e safe return of troops home. --part1_76.34d0d8f4.2ce7d78c_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 19:41:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:41:20 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: <200311151941.hAFJeod0008403@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151752080_81702_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable "Grand Funk Railroad is from Oklahoma?" No they're not. They're from Flint, Michigan. " Alice Cooper is an Okie" NO HE'S NOT! He's from Arizona by way of Detroit!! Alex in NYC ---------- From: "Alexi Hamilton" To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 11:46 PM Grand Funk Railroad is from Oklahoma? Alice Cooper is an Okie from a town west of Tulsa. Can't remember the name of it right off hand. I kid you not. Oklahoman's have a born knowledge of who's from there. I don't understand it but I do have the knowledge...Brad Pitt is an Okie too. Whoopie. ~Alexi ################################## "What's the hurry? We're probably going the wrong way anyhow." -Eeyore ################################## >From: "Christof hamille" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:19:34 -0500 > >I think that is kind of a stretch also. I mean they both have >guitars, bass and drums. the latest Turbonegro has more of a The >Alice Cooper BAND (you know, Killer, Love It To Death, when THEY >were great) but is still incredible. It is kind of like saying >Grand Funk Railroad and Alice Cooper sound similar. They sort of do >(because being from the same era) but really they are worlds apart >and one always sucked. > >Wipe It Til' It Bleeds > >Chris > >>From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >>To: gathering@misera.net >>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:31:25 +0000 >> >>No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The >>Darkness... Turbo are the best band I've heard in fucking years, >>the Darkness remind me of all the cunts at school into shit metal >>in the early 80's!!! >>When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the >>dates coming up? >> >>Dave >> >> >> >> >>At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: >>>Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates >>>'Turbs' as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. >>> >>>I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically >>>they're a bit Darknessy but with a better singer. >>> >>>I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. >>> >>>Christof hamille wrote: >>>they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was >>>excellent. >>> >>>I am the denim demon >>> >>>Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> >From: "DG" >>> >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >>> >To: >>> >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >>> >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 >>> > >>> >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any >>>good. >>> >Nothing >>> >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. >>> >----- Original Message ----- >>> >From: "Arvid Mork" >>> >To: >>> >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 >>> >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway >>> > > will tour UK in December >>> > > >>> > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look >>>any good ! :> >>> > > >>> > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> >>> > > >>> > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller >>> > > >>> > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever) >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >>> > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO >>> > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK >>> > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK >>> > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO >>> > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO >>> > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK >>> > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK >>> > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE >>> > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK >>> > > >>> > > >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>> > > Hotmail snakker ditt spr=E5k! >>> > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/sbox?rru=3Ddasp/lang.asp - >>>F=E5 Hotmail >>> >p=E5 >>> > > norsk i dag >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Gathering mailing list >>> > > Gathering@misera.net >>> > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >Gathering mailing list >>> >Gathering@misera.net >>> >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. >>>https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Gathering mailing list >>>Gathering@misera.net >>>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >>> >>> >>>Want to chat instantly with your online friends? >>>Get >>>the FREE Yahoo! Messenger >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering@misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_________________________________________________________________ >Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are >always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! >http://join.msn.com/?page=3Doffers/premiumradio > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95.* * Prices may vary by service area. = _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --MS_Mac_OE_3151752080_81702_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro "Grand Funk Railroad is from Oklahoma?"

No they're not. They're from Flint, Michigan.

" Alice Cooper is an Okie"

NO HE'S NOT! He's from Arizona by way of Detroit!!

Alex in NYC



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From: "Alexi Hamilton" <alexih@hotmail.com>
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 11:46 PM


Grand Funk Railroad is from Oklahoma?  Alice Cooper is an = Okie from a town west of Tulsa.  Can't remember the name of it right of= f hand.  I kid you not.  Oklahoman's have a born knowledge of who'= s from there.  I don't understand it but I do have the knowledge...Brad= Pitt is an Okie too.  Whoopie.

~Alexi




##################################
"What's the hurry? We're probably
going the wrong way anyhow."
-Eeyore
##################################
>From: "Christof hamille"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
>Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:19:34 -0500
>
>I think that is kind of a stretch also. I mean they both have
>guitars, bass and drums. the latest Turbonegro has more of a The
>Alice Cooper BAND (you know, Killer, Love It To Death, when THEY
>were great) but is still incredible. It is kind of like saying
>Grand Funk Railroad and Alice Cooper sound similar. They sort of do >(because being from the same era) but really they are worlds apart
>and one always sucked.
>
>Wipe It Til' It Bleeds
>
>Chris
>
>>From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk <= BR> >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net =
>>To: gathering@misera.net
>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
>>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:31:25 +0000
>>
>>No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The
>>Darkness... Turbo are the best band I've heard in fucking years, >>the Darkness remind me of all the cunts at school into shit metal <= BR> >>in the early 80's!!!
>>When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the <= BR> >>dates coming up?
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>>>Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now ra= tes
>>>'Turbs' as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them= .
>>>
>>>I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically =
>>>they're a bit Darknessy but with a better singer.
>>>
>>>I'll stick with Mars Volta I think.
>>>
>>>Christof hamille wrote:
>>>they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was=
>>>excellent.
>>>
>>>I am the denim demon
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "DG"
>>> >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>>> >To:
>>> >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
>>> >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800
>>> >
>>> >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've ne= ver looked any
>>>good.
>>> >Nothing
>>> >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo.
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: "Arvid Mork"
>>> >To:
>>> >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53
>>> >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norwa= y
>>> > > will tour UK in December
>>> > >
>>> > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don'= t look
>>>any good ! :>
>>> > >
>>> > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> >>> > >
>>> > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller
>>> > >
>>> > > Good Head !!!!!! (or good day - whatever)
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > 04.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO
>>> > > 05.12 Oslo - Rockefeller - NO
>>> > > 08.12 London - Meanfiddler - UK
>>> > > 09.12 Newport - TJs - UK
>>> > > 10.12 Aberdeen - Lemontrees - SCO
>>> > > 11.12 Glasgow - Garage - SCO
>>> > > 12.12 Manchester - Manchester University - UK
>>> > > 13.12 Nottingham - Rescue Rooms - UK
>>> > > 14.12 Dublin - Music Centre - IRE
>>> > > 15.12 Portsmouth - Wedgewood Rooms - UK
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>_______________________________________________________________= __
>>> > > Hotmail snakker ditt spr=E5k!
>>> > > http://www.hotmail.msn.com/= cgi-bin/sbox?rru=3Ddasp/lang.asp -
>>>F=E5 Hotmail
>>> >p=E5
>>> > > norsk i dag
>>> > >
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > Gathering mailing list
>>> > > Gathering@misera.net
>>> > > http://four.pairlist.net/ma= ilman/listinfo/gathering
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >_______________________________________________
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--MS_Mac_OE_3151752080_81702_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 19:43:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:43:02 -0500 Subject: [kj] best KJ recordings (live) from each era. References: Message-ID: <001801c3abb0$af691880$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C3AB86.C5DA6EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mid eighties: roskilde june 26 1984 - quintessential desert isl. joke... = the best of any era i've heard so far..but then i don't have every = recording ever like jon! btw mr. chapman, i haven't received that package yet! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: death wish=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 2:03 PM Subject: [kj] Thread: best KJ recordings (live) from each era. Thread: best KJ recordings (live) from each era. Discuss. Anyone? T. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* =20 = http://join.msn.com/?page=3Ddept/bcomm&pgmarket=3Den-ca&RU=3Dhttp%3a%2f%2= fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C3AB86.C5DA6EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mid eighties: roskilde june 26 1984 = - quintessential=20 desert isl. joke... the best of any era i've heard so far..but then = i don't=20 have every recording ever like jon!
 
 
 
 
btw mr. chapman, i haven't received that = package=20 yet!
 
 
 
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C3AB86.C5DA6EE0-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 19:46:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:46:14 -0500 Subject: [kj] live cd Message-ID: <200311151946.hAFJkBgt006449@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151752374_99417_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Yeah. i have that too. It's German, I think. Track listing is off. Liner notes are incorrect. Design features an Ankh in the font. Crap. Alex in NYC ---------- From: mike coles To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] live cd Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2003, 10:00 AM Hello Gatherers I've just purchased a 17 track live cd called "Love Like Blood" isn't that the lorelei concert from nwobfg...? colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --MS_Mac_OE_3151752374_99417_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] live cd
Yeah. i have that too. It's German, I think. Track listing is off. Liner no= tes are incorrect. Design features an Ankh in the font. Crap.

Alex in NYC


----------
From: mike coles <mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk>
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: [kj] live cd
Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2003, 10:00 AM


Hello Gatherers
I've just purchased a 17 track live cd called "Love Like Blood" isn't that the lorelei concert from nwobfg...?
colesy
--
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousd= amage.co.uk
... and you can find more Killing Joke at = http://www.studio-c.co.uk

--MS_Mac_OE_3151752374_99417_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 19:46:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:46:47 -0500 Subject: [kj] healthy kids Message-ID: <200311151946.hAFJkBgv006449@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Congratz, Mikey. I hope to follow in your estimably fatherly footsteps! Cheers, Alex (in NYC) ---------- >From: mike coles >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] healthy kids >Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2003, 10:04 AM > >My two are sixteen (yesterday) and eleven. >Sixteen has just told me she's got a gig at the Jazz Cafe. >On my birthday!! >That's worth all the sleepless nights in the world... >colesy, a very proud dad >-- >Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk >... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 21:28:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:28:13 +0000 Subject: [kj] okies Message-ID: How about killing joklahoma... ...goodnight -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 21:45:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:45:43 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID: That is what I thought...but...I am not an expert. I mean I know at one point Alice Cooper was in Detroit and Arizona and I know that Grand Funk Railroad came form Flint. What I am saying is that Alex is correct >From: "Alex Smith" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:41:20 -0500 > >"Grand Funk Railroad is from Oklahoma?" > >No they're not. They're from Flint, Michigan. > >" Alice Cooper is an Okie" > >NO HE'S NOT! He's from Arizona by way of Detroit!! > >Alex in NYC > > > >---------- >From: "Alexi Hamilton" >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro >Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 11:46 PM > > >Grand Funk Railroad is from Oklahoma? Alice Cooper is an Okie from a town >west of Tulsa. Can't remember the name of it right off hand. I kid you >not. Oklahoman's have a born knowledge of who's from there. I don't >understand it but I do have the knowledge...Brad Pitt is an Okie too. >Whoopie. > >~Alexi > > > > >################################## >"What's the hurry? We're probably >going the wrong way anyhow." >-Eeyore >################################## > >From: "Christof hamille" > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:19:34 -0500 > > > >I think that is kind of a stretch also. I mean they both have > >guitars, bass and drums. the latest Turbonegro has more of a The > >Alice Cooper BAND (you know, Killer, Love It To Death, when THEY > >were great) but is still incredible. It is kind of like saying > >Grand Funk Railroad and Alice Cooper sound similar. They sort of do > >(because being from the same era) but really they are worlds apart > >and one always sucked. > > > >Wipe It Til' It Bleeds > > > >Chris > > > >>From: gingoblin@easynet.co.uk > >>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >>To: gathering@misera.net > >>Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:31:25 +0000 > >> > >>No no NO!!! Not the Darkness!!! They can't be like The > >>Darkness... Turbo are the best band I've heard in fucking years, > >>the Darkness remind me of all the cunts at school into shit metal > >>in the early 80's!!! > >>When did yer brother go to Norway to see 'em? Or is it one of the > >>dates coming up? > >> > >>Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>At 13:52 11/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >>>Oddly, my brother who got me into KJ all those years ago now rates > >>>'Turbs' as his favourite band. Even going to Norway to see them. > >>> > >>>I can't say I really see what all the fuss is about. Musically > >>>they're a bit Darknessy but with a better singer. > >>> > >>>I'll stick with Mars Volta I think. > >>> > >>>Christof hamille wrote: > >>>they just plowed through the states a few months ago and it was > >>>excellent. > >>> > >>>I am the denim demon > >>> > >>>Chris > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >From: "DG" > >>> >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >>> >To: > >>> >Subject: Re: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >>> >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:02:41 -0800 > >>> > > >>> >"even if they don't look any good" ...They've never looked any > >>>good. > >>> >Nothing > >>> >close to it. But they fucking ROCK! damebo. > >>> >----- Original Message ----- > >>> >From: "Arvid Mork" > >>> >To: > >>> >Sent: Monday, 10 November, 2003 03:53 > >>> >Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > Turbonegro or Turboneger as they are called in Norway > >>> > > will tour UK in December > >>> > > > >>> > > So go and see them, they are great even if they don' t look > >>>any good ! :> > >>> > > > >>> > > And Jon get your ass to the Rescue Rooms ! :> > >>> > > > >>> > > I will ofcourse be in Oslo at Rockefeller > >>> > > > >>> > > Good Head !!!!!! 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Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 15 22:15:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (death wish) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:15:05 +0000 Subject: [kj] Small piece in Toronto Star Message-ID: Well, it's well after the album came out, and over two weeks since the incendiary show here in Toronto, but the Toronto Star - Saturday edition today (15th) - had a little piece under the heading "In Rotation: Killing Joke" where a Mr. Ben Rayner extolled the virtues of the new album, quoting Implant and citing TDARS, Total Invasion and Blood On Your Hands as "astonishingly heavy." No pic, but a nice surprise during my morning coffee. Won't type the whole thing, but my fave bit is the last line: "Ageing doesn't have to mean pussying out." Respect! T. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 02:37:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Michael Garcia) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:37:06 -0800 Subject: [kj] Re: [kj]Mik References: <200311151946.hAFJkBgv006449@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <002001c3abea$86d09760$5abf9b0c@dragonflmznxwc> Got the CD today Mik. Thanks again for all your offerings! Cheers, Michael www.electric-jesus.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Smith" To: ; Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [kj] healthy kids > > > Congratz, Mikey. I hope to follow in your estimably fatherly footsteps! > > Cheers, > > Alex (in NYC) > > ---------- > >From: mike coles > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: [kj] healthy kids > >Date: Sat, Nov 15, 2003, 10:04 AM > > > > >My two are sixteen (yesterday) and eleven. > >Sixteen has just told me she's got a gig at the Jazz Cafe. > >On my birthday!! > >That's worth all the sleepless nights in the world... > >colesy, a very proud dad > >-- > >Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > >... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 09:05:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bob Barathy) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:05:13 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C3AC20.BE692A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses I would guess so, if there were a pathway for them types of demons back there. As it were, it is an area completely devoid of such things. Add to that, there has never been any traffic back there in the woods or the fields. Cant really get to it, as it is all surrounded by barbed wire fence. Plus, I have never seen red head lights...especially, that close. Sorry, had to ask. So what's the story to go with the picture? Bob ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C3AC20.BE692A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Haunted Houses
 
I would guess so, if = there were a=20 pathway for them types of demons back there. As it were, it is an area = completely devoid of such things. Add to that, there has never been = any=20 traffic back there in the woods or the fields. Cant really get to it, = as it is=20 all surrounded by barbed wire fence. Plus, I have never seen red head=20 lights...especially, that close. 

 Sorry,=20 had to ask. So what's the story to go with the=20 picture? 
 
Bob
= ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C3AC20.BE692A80-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 10:13:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (meddle) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:13:34 -0600 Subject: [kj] Denver Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031116035245.00ac7ca0@pop.central.cox.net> It's been almost two weeks since the Denver show and I still can't quite wrap my head around having finally seen Killing Joke live. It was everything I hoped for and more and worth every mile (17 hours worth) and every $ (gas, hotel, thousands to fix the damn car, etc). I'll never forget that day ... I'll never forget Geordie shuffling out on stage. I'll never forget Jaz hobbling out on stage with the giant walking stick in hand. I'll never forget Jaz and Raven pounding the stage in time with the opening count of "Communion". I'll never forget that glorious sound washing over me. I'll never forget Jaz's extremely good spirits (his brother was in the house) and his full body tremor dance. I'll never forget how Ted perfectly filled the role of Joke drummer. I'll never forget Geordie's suave, carefree way of playing and slowly spinning on his stool. I'll never forget being so close to Geordie that I could clearly hear the pick thrashing the strings. I'll never forget all the other faces around me in the crowd just as happy as mine ... Here's a few select digital pics. I didn't use a flash, but I like the results ... jaz and jaz3 are fucking evil! http://brainwashed.com/weddle/kj/ Mark From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 13:29:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:29:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Denver References: <5.1.0.14.2.20031116035245.00ac7ca0@pop.central.cox.net> Message-ID: <000a01c3ac45$a3cabe80$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3AC1B.BA3C14E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <> hmm geordie using the stool and jaz with the walking stick. was this in = case the mile high altitude made them dizzy? time to lay off the fags G. and jaz's brother was there. does he live in denver or just stopped = through? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: meddle=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 5:13 AM Subject: [kj] Denver It's been almost two weeks since the Denver show and I still can't = quite wrap my=20 head around having finally seen Killing Joke live. It was everything = I hoped for and=20 more and worth every mile (17 hours worth) and every $ (gas, hotel, = thousands to=20 fix the damn car, etc). I'll never forget that day ... I'll never forget Geordie shuffling out on stage. I'll never forget = Jaz hobbling out on=20 stage with the giant walking stick in hand. I'll never forget Jaz and = Raven pounding=20 the stage in time with the opening count of "Communion". I'll never = forget that=20 glorious sound washing over me. I'll never forget Jaz's extremely = good spirits (his=20 brother was in the house) and his full body tremor dance. I'll never = forget how Ted=20 perfectly filled the role of Joke drummer. I'll never forget = Geordie's suave, carefree=20 way of playing and slowly spinning on his stool. I'll never forget = being so close to=20 Geordie that I could clearly hear the pick thrashing the strings. = I'll never forget all=20 the other faces around me in the crowd just as happy as mine ... Here's a few select digital pics. I didn't use a flash, but I like = the results ... jaz and=20 jaz3 are fucking evil! http://brainwashed.com/weddle/kj/ Mark _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3AC1B.BA3C14E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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hmm geordie using the stool and jaz with the = walking=20 stick. was this in case the mile high altitude made them = dizzy? time=20 to lay off the fags G.
 
and jaz's brother was there. does he live in denver = or just=20 stopped through?
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 meddle =
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 = 5:13=20 AM
Subject: [kj] Denver

It's been almost two weeks since the Denver show and I = still=20 can't quite wrap my
head around having finally seen Killing Joke=20 live.  It was everything I hoped for and
more and worth every = mile=20 (17 hours worth) and every $ (gas, hotel, thousands to
fix the = damn car,=20 etc).  I'll never forget that day ...

I'll never forget = Geordie=20 shuffling out on stage.  I'll never forget Jaz hobbling out on =
stage=20 with the giant walking stick in hand.  I'll never forget Jaz and = Raven=20 pounding
the stage in time with the opening count of = "Communion". =20 I'll never forget that
glorious sound washing over me.  I'll = never=20 forget Jaz's extremely good spirits (his
brother was in the house) = and his=20 full body tremor dance.  I'll never forget how Ted
perfectly = filled=20 the role of Joke drummer.  I'll never forget Geordie's suave, = carefree=20
way of playing and slowly spinning on his stool.  I'll never = forget=20 being so close to
Geordie that I could clearly hear the pick = thrashing the=20 strings.  I'll never forget all
the other faces around me in = the=20 crowd just as happy as mine ...

Here's a few select digital = pics. =20 I didn't use a flash, but I like the results ... jaz and
jaz3 are = fucking=20 evil!

http://brainwashed.com/weddle/= kj/


Mark


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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3AC1B.BA3C14E0-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 13:50:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:50:21 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - Fw: Stan Goff: A veterans Open Letter to GIs in Iraq Message-ID: <002701c3ac48$941c20c0$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3AC1E.AAD09AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ted Glick=20 To: ippn-announce@topica.com=20 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: [IPPN] Fw: Stan Goff: An Open Letter to GIs in Iraq by a Vietnam veteran, father of an > active duty soldier, and member of Bring Them Home Now! > November 14 / 23, 2003 > > HOLD ONTO YOUR HUMANITY > An Open Letter to GIs in Iraq > > By STAN GOFF > (US Army Retired) > > Dear American serviceperson in Iraq, > > I am a retired veteran of the army, and my own son is among you, a > paratrooper like I was. The changes that are happening to every one of > you--some more extreme than others--are changes I know very well. So I'm > going to say some things to you straight up in the language to which you > are accustomed. > > In 1970, I was assigned to the 173rd Airborne Brigade, then based in > northern Binh Dinh Province in what was then the Republic of Vietnam. > When I went there, I had my head full of shit: shit from the news media, > shit from movies, shit about what it supposedly mean to be a man, and > shit from a lot of my know-nothing neighbors who would tell you plenty > about Vietnam even though they'd never been there, or to war at all. > > The essence of all this shit was that we had to "stay the course in > Vietnam," and that we were on some mission to save good Vietnamese from > bad Vietnamese, and to keep the bad Vietnamese from hitting beachheads > outside of Oakland. We stayed the course until 58,000 Americans were > dead, lots more maimed for life, and 3,000,000 Southeast Asians were dead. > Ex-military people and even many on active duty played a big part in finally > bringing that crime to a halt. > > When I started hearing about weapons of mass destruction that threatened > the United States from Iraq, a shattered country that had endured almost > a decade of trench war followed by an invasion and twelve years of > sanctions, my first question was how in the hell can anyone believe that > this suffering country presents a threat to the United States? But then > I remembered how many people had believed Vietnam threatened the United > States. Including me. > > When that bullshit story about weapons came apart like a two-dollar > shirt, the politicians who cooked up this war told everyone, including > you, that you would be greeted like great liberators. They told us that > we were in Vietnam to make sure everyone there could vote. > > What they didn't tell me was that before I got there in 1970, the > American armed forces had been burning villages, killing livestock, > poisoning farmlands and forests, killing civilians for sport, bombing > whole villages, and commiting rapes and massacres, and the people who > were grieving and raging over that weren't in a position to figure out > the difference between me--just in country--and the people who had done > those things to them. > > What they didn't tell you is that over a million and a half Iraqis died > between 1991 and 2003 from malnutrition, medical neglect, and bad > sanitation. Over half a million of those who died were the weakest: the > children, especially very young children. > > My son who is over there now has a baby. We visit with our grandson > every chance we get. He is eleven months old now. Lots of you have > children, so you know how easy it is to really love them, and love them > so hard you just know your entire world would collapse if anything > happened to them. Iraqis feel that way about their babies, too. And they > are not going to forget that the United States government was largely > responsible for the deaths of half a million kids. > > So the lie that you would be welcomed as liberators was just that. A > lie. A lie for people in the United States to get them to open their > purse for this obscenity, and a lie for you to pump you up for a fight. > > And when you put this into perspective, you know that if you were an > Iraqi, you probably wouldn't be crazy about American soldiers taking > over your towns and cities either. This is the tough reality I faced in > Vietnam. I knew while I was there that if I were Vietnamese, I would > have been one of the Vietcong. > > But there we were, ordered into someone else's country, playing the role > of occupier when we didn't know the people, their language, or their > culture, with our head full of bullshit our so-called leaders had told > us during training and in preparation for deployment, and even when we > got there. There we were, facing people we were ordered to dominate, but > any one of whom might be pumping mortars at us or firing AKs at us later > that night. The question we stated to ask is who put us in this position? > > In our process of fighting to stay alive, and in their process of trying > to expel an invader that violated their dignity, destroyed their > property, and killed their innocents, we were faced off against each > other by people who made these decisions in $5,000 suits, who laughed > and slapped each other on the back in Washington DC with their fat > fucking asses stuffed full of cordon blue and caviar. > > They chumped us. Anyone can be chumped. > > That's you now. Just fewer trees and less water. > > We haven't figured out how to stop the pasty-faced, oil-hungry > backslappers in DC yet, and it looks like you all might be stuck there > for a little longer. So I want to tell you the rest of the story. > > I changed over there in Vietnam and they were not nice changes either. > I started getting pulled into something--something that craved other > people's pain. Just to make sure I wasn't regarded as a "fucking > missionary" or a possible rat, I learned how to fit myself into that > group that was untouchable, people too crazy to fuck with, people who > desired the rush of omnipotence that comes with setting some house on > fire just for the pure hell of it, or who could kill anyone, man, woman, or > child, with hardly a second thought. People who had the power of life and > death--because they could. > > The anger helps. It's easy to hate everyone you can't trust because of > your circumstances, and to rage about what you've seen, what has > happened to you, and what you have done and can't take back. > > It was all an act for me, a cover-up for deeper fears I couldn't name, > and the reason I know that is that we had to dehumanize our victims > before we did the things we did. We knew deep down that what we were > doing was wrong. So they became dinks or gooks, just like Iraqis are now > being transformed into ragheads or hajjis. People had to be reduced to > "niggers" here before they could be lynched. No difference. We convinced > ourselves we had to kill them to survive, even when that wasn't true, > but something inside us told us that so long as they were human beings, > with the same intrinsic value we had as human beings, we were not > allowed to burn their homes and barns, kill their animals, and sometimes > even kill them. So we used these words, these new names, to reduce them, > to strip them of their essential humanity, and then we could do things > like adjust artillery fire onto the cries of a baby. > > Until that baby was silenced, though, and here's the important thing to > understand, that baby never surrendered her humanity. I did. We did. > That's the thing you might not get until it's too late. When you take > away the humantiy of another, you kill your own humanity. You attack > your own soul because it is standing in the way. > > So we finish our tour, and go back to our families, who can see that > even though we function, we are empty and incapable of truly connecting > to people any more, and maybe we can go for months or even years before > we fill that void where we surrendered our humanity, with chemical > anesthetics--drugs, alcohol, until we realize that the void can never be > filled and we shoot ourselves, or head off into the street where we can > disappear with the flotsam of society, or we hurt others, esepcially > those who try to love us, and end up as another incarceration statistic > or a mental patient. > > You can never escape that you became a racist because you made the > excuse that you needed that to survive, that you took things away from > people that you can never give back, or that you killed a piece of yourself > that you may never get back. > > Some of us do. We get lucky and someone gives a damn enough to > emotionally resuscitate us and bring us back to life. Many do not. > I live with the rage every day of my life, even when no one else sees > it. You might hear it in my words. I hate being chumped. > > So here is my message to you. You will do what you have to do to > survive, however you define survival, while we do what we have to do to > stop this thing. But don't surrender your humanity. Not to fit in. Not > to prove yourself. Not for an adrenaline rush. Not to lash out when you > are angry and frustrated. Not for some ticket-punching fucking military > careerist to make his bones on. Especially not for the Bush-Cheney Gas & > Oil Consortium. > > The big bosses are trying to gain control of the world's energy supplies > to twist the arms of future economic competitors. That's what's going > on, and you need to understand it, then do what you need to do to hold > on to your humanity. The system does that; tells you you are some kind > of hero action figures, but uses you as gunmen. They chump you. > > Your so-called civilian leadership sees you as an expendable commodity. > They don't care about your nightmares, about the DU that you are > breathing, about the loneliness, the doubts, the pain, or about how your > humanity is stripped away a piece at a time. They will cut your > benefits, deny your illnesses, and hide your wounded and dead from the > public. They already are. > > They don't care. So you have to. And to preserve your own humanity, you > must recognize the humanity of the people whose nation you now occupy > and know that both you and they are victims of the filthy rich bastards > who are calling the shots. > > They are your enemies--The Suits--and they are the enemies of peace, > and the enemies of your families, especially if they are Black families, or > immigrant families, or poor families. They are thieves and bullies who > take and never give, and they say they will "never run" in Iraq, but you > and I know that they will never have to run, because they fucking aren't > there. You are > > They'll skin and grin while they are getting what they want from you, > and throw you away like a used condom when they are done. Ask the vets > who are having their benefits slashed out from under them now. Bushfeld > and their cronies are parasites, and they are the sole beneficiaries of > the chaos you are learning to live in. They get the money. You get the > prosthetic devices, the nightmares, and the mysterious illnesses. > > So if your rage needs a target, there they are, responsible for your > being there, and responsible for keeping you there. I can't tell you to > disobey. That would probably run me afoul of the law. That will be a > decision you will have to take when and if the circumstances and your > own conscience dictate. But it perfectly legal for you to refuse illegal > orders, and orders to abuse or attack civilians are illegal. Ordering > you to keep silent about these crimes is also illegal. > > I can tell you, without fear of legal consequence, that you are never > under any obligation to hate Iraqis, you are never under any obligation > to give yourself over to racism and nihilism and the thirst to kill for > the sake of killing, and you are never under any obligation to let them > drive out the last vestiges of your capacity to see and tell the truth > to yourself and to the world. You do not owe them your souls. > > Come home safe, and come home sane. The people who love you and > who have loved you all your lives are waiting here, and we want you to > come back and be able to look us in the face. Don't leave your souls in > the dust there like another corpse. > > Hold on to your humanity. > > Stan Goff > > US Army (Ret.) > > > Stan Goff is the author of "Hideous Dream: A Soldier's Memoir of the > US Invasion of Haiti" > html?L+scstore+jssh4901+1060182363>" > (Soft Skull Press, 2000) and of the upcoming book > "Full Spectrum Disorder" > > (Soft Skull Press, 2003). > > He is a member of the BRING THEM HOME NOW! > coordinating committee, a retired > Special Forces master sergeant, and the father of an active duty > soldier. Email for BRING THEM HOME NOW! is bthn@mfso.org > . > > Goff can be reached at: sherrynstan@igc.org > > > > > [This message sent using the IPPN Announce e-mail list. You can join = this low-traffic email group on alternative politics by sending a blank email = to: ippn-announce-subscribe@topica.com You can unsubscribe by writing = ippn-announce-unsubscribe@topica.com To participate in a more active discussion of independent and third party politics, please send a blank email to: ippn-discuss-subscribe@topica.com --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: fluwdot@earthlink.net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1ddtL.b3kFoT.Zmx1d2Rv Or send an email to: ippn-announce-unsubscribe@topica.com TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^---------------------------------------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3AC1E.AAD09AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ted Glick =
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 7:12 PM
Subject: [IPPN] Fw: Stan Goff: An Open Letter to GIs in=20 Iraq

by a Vietnam
veteran, father of an
> active duty = soldier, and=20 member of Bring Them Home Now!
> November 14 / 23, = 2003
>
>=20 HOLD ONTO YOUR HUMANITY
> An Open Letter to GIs in = Iraq
>
> By=20 STAN GOFF
> (US Army Retired)
>
> Dear American = serviceperson=20 in Iraq,
>
> I am a retired veteran of the army, and my own = son=20 is
among you, a
> paratrooper like I was. The changes that are=20 happening to
every one of
> you--some more extreme than = others--are=20 changes I know
very well. So I'm
> going to say some things to = you=20 straight up in the
language to which you
> are=20 accustomed.
>
> In 1970, I was assigned to the 173rd = Airborne=20 Brigade,
then based in
> northern Binh Dinh Province in what = was then=20 the Republic
of Vietnam.
> When I went there, I had my head = full of=20 shit: shit from
the news media,
> shit from movies, shit about = what it=20 supposedly mean to be
a man, and
> shit from a lot of my = know-nothing=20 neighbors who would
tell you plenty
> about Vietnam even though = they'd=20 never been there, or to
war at all.
>
> The essence of = all this=20 shit was that we had to "stay the
course in
> Vietnam," and = that we=20 were on some mission to save good
Vietnamese from
> bad = Vietnamese, and=20 to keep the bad Vietnamese from
hitting beachheads
> outside of = Oakland. We stayed the course until 58,000
Americans were
> = dead, lots=20 more maimed for life, and 3,000,000 Southeast
Asians were = dead.
>=20 Ex-military people and even many on active duty played a
big part in=20 finally
> bringing that crime to a halt.
>
> When I = started=20 hearing about weapons of mass destruction
that threatened
> the = United=20 States from Iraq, a shattered country that had
endured almost
> = a=20 decade of trench war followed by an invasion and twelve
years = of
>=20 sanctions, my first question was how in the hell can
anyone believe=20 that
> this suffering country presents a threat to the = United
States?=20 But then
> I remembered how many people had believed = Vietnam
threatened=20 the United
> States. Including me.
>
> When that = bullshit=20 story about weapons came apart like a
two-dollar
> shirt, the=20 politicians who cooked up this war told
everyone, including
> = you, that=20 you would be greeted like great liberators. They
told us that
> = we were=20 in Vietnam to make sure everyone there could vote.
>
> What = they=20 didn't tell me was that before I got there in
1970, the
> = American=20 armed forces had been burning villages, killing
livestock,
> = poisoning=20 farmlands and forests, killing civilians for
sport, bombing
> = whole=20 villages, and commiting rapes and massacres, and the
people = who
> were=20 grieving and raging over that weren't in a position
to figure = out
> the=20 difference between me--just in country--and the people
who had = done
>=20 those things to them.
>
> What they didn't tell you is that = over a=20 million and a
half Iraqis died
> between 1991 and 2003 from=20 malnutrition, medical neglect,
and bad
> sanitation. Over half = a=20 million of those who died were the
weakest: the
> children, = especially=20 very young children.
>
> My son who is over there now has a = baby. We=20 visit with our
grandson
> every chance we get. He is eleven = months old=20 now. Lots of
you have
> children, so you know how easy it is to = really=20 love them,
and love them
> so hard you just know your entire = world=20 would collapse if
anything
> happened to them. Iraqis feel that = way=20 about their babies,
too. And they
> are not going to forget = that the=20 United States government
was largely
> responsible for the = deaths of=20 half a million kids.
>
> So the lie that you would be = welcomed as=20 liberators was
just that. A
> lie. A lie for people in the = United=20 States to get them to
open their
> purse for this obscenity, = and a lie=20 for you to pump you up
for a fight.
>
> And when you put = this=20 into perspective, you know that if
you were an
> Iraqi, you = probably=20 wouldn't be crazy about American
soldiers taking
> over your = towns and=20 cities either. This is the tough
reality I faced in
> Vietnam. = I knew=20 while I was there that if I were
Vietnamese, I would
> have = been one of=20 the Vietcong.
>
> But there we were, ordered into someone = else's=20 country,
playing the role
> of occupier when we didn't know the = people,=20 their
language, or their
> culture, with our head full of = bullshit our=20 so-called
leaders had told
> us during training and in = preparation for=20 deployment, and
even when we
> got there. There we were, facing = people=20 we were ordered to
dominate, but
> any one of whom might be = pumping=20 mortars at us or firing
AKs at us later
> that night. The = question we=20 stated to ask is who put us in
this position?
>
> In our = process=20 of fighting to stay alive, and in their
process of trying
> to = expel an=20 invader that violated their dignity, destroyed
their
> = property, and=20 killed their innocents, we were faced off
against each
> other = by=20 people who made these decisions in $5,000 suits,
who laughed
> = and=20 slapped each other on the back in Washington DC with
their = fat
>=20 fucking asses stuffed full of cordon blue and caviar.
>
> = They=20 chumped us. Anyone can be chumped.
>
> That's you now. Just = fewer=20 trees and less water.
>
> We haven't figured out how to stop = the=20 pasty-faced,
oil-hungry
> backslappers in DC yet, and it looks = like you=20 all might be
stuck there
> for a little longer. So I want to = tell you=20 the rest of the
story.
>
> I changed over there in = Vietnam and=20 they were not nice
changes either.
> I started getting pulled = into=20 something--something that
craved other
> people's pain. Just to = make=20 sure I wasn't regarded as a
"fucking
> missionary" or a = possible rat, I=20 learned how to fit myself
into that
> group that was = untouchable,=20 people too crazy to fuck with,
people who
> desired the rush of = omnipotence that comes with setting
some house on
> fire just = for the=20 pure hell of it, or who could kill
anyone, man, woman, or
> = child, with=20 hardly a second thought. People who had the
power of life and
> = death--because they could.
>
> The anger helps. It's easy to = hate=20 everyone you can't
trust because of
> your circumstances, and = to rage=20 about what you've seen,
what has
> happened to you, and what = you have=20 done and can't take
back.
>
> It was all an act for me, a = cover-up for deeper fears I
couldn't name,
> and the reason I = know that=20 is that we had to dehumanize
our victims
> before we did the = things we=20 did. We knew deep down that
what we were
> doing was wrong. So = they=20 became dinks or gooks, just like
Iraqis are now
> being = transformed=20 into ragheads or hajjis. People had to
be reduced to
> = "niggers" here=20 before they could be lynched. No
difference. We convinced
> = ourselves=20 we had to kill them to survive, even when that
wasn't true,
> = but=20 something inside us told us that so long as they were
human = beings,
>=20 with the same intrinsic value we had as human beings, we
were = not
>=20 allowed to burn their homes and barns, kill their animals,
and=20 sometimes
> even kill them. So we used these words, these new = names,
to=20 reduce them,
> to strip them of their essential humanity, and then = we
could do things
> like adjust artillery fire onto the cries = of a=20 baby.
>
> Until that baby was silenced, though, and here's=20 the
important thing to
> understand, that baby never = surrendered her=20 humanity. I
did. We did.
> That's the thing you might not get = until=20 it's too late.
When you take
> away the humantiy of another, = you kill=20 your own humanity.
You attack
> your own soul because it is = standing in=20 the way.
>
> So we finish our tour, and go back to our = families,=20 who
can see that
> even though we function, we are empty and = incapable=20 of
truly connecting
> to people any more, and maybe we can go = for=20 months or even
years before
> we fill that void where we = surrendered=20 our humanity, with
chemical
> anesthetics--drugs, alcohol, = until we=20 realize that the
void can never be
> filled and we shoot = ourselves, or=20 head off into the street
where we can
> disappear with the = flotsam of=20 society, or we hurt others,
esepcially
> those who try to love = us, and=20 end up as another
incarceration statistic
> or a mental=20 patient.
>
> You can never escape that you became a racist = because=20 you
made the
> excuse that you needed that to survive, that you = took
things away from
> people that you can never give back, or = that=20 you killed a
piece of yourself
> that you may never get=20 back.
>
> Some of us do. We get lucky and someone gives a=20 damn
enough to
> emotionally resuscitate us and bring us back = to life.=20 Many
do not.
> I live with the rage every day of my life, even = when=20 no
one else sees
> it. You might hear it in my words. I hate = being=20 chumped.
>
> So here is my message to you. You will do what = you have=20 to
do to
> survive, however you define survival, while we do = what=20 we
have to do to
> stop this thing. But don't surrender your = humanity.=20 Not to
fit in. Not
> to prove yourself. Not for an adrenaline = rush. Not=20 to lash
out when you
> are angry and frustrated. Not for some=20 ticket-punching
fucking military
> careerist to make his bones = on.=20 Especially not for the
Bush-Cheney Gas &
> Oil=20 Consortium.
>
> The big bosses are trying to gain control of = the=20 world's
energy supplies
> to twist the arms of future economic=20 competitors. That's
what's going
> on, and you need to = understand it,=20 then do what you need
to do to hold
> on to your humanity. The = system=20 does that; tells you you
are some kind
> of hero action = figures, but=20 uses you as gunmen. They chump
you.
>
> Your so-called = civilian=20 leadership sees you as an
expendable commodity.
> They don't = care about=20 your nightmares, about the DU that
you are
> breathing, about = the=20 loneliness, the doubts, the pain, or
about how your
> humanity = is=20 stripped away a piece at a time. They will cut
your
> benefits, = deny=20 your illnesses, and hide your wounded and
dead from the
> = public. They=20 already are.
>
> They don't care. So you have to. And to = preserve=20 your own
humanity, you
> must recognize the humanity of the = people=20 whose nation you
now occupy
> and know that both you and they = are=20 victims of the filthy
rich bastards
> who are calling the=20 shots.
>
> They are your enemies--The Suits--and they are = the=20 enemies
of peace,
> and the enemies of your families, = especially if=20 they are
Black families, or
> immigrant families, or poor = families.=20 They are thieves and
bullies who
> take and never give, and = they say=20 they will "never run" in
Iraq, but you
> and I know that they = will=20 never have to run, because they
fucking aren't
> there. You=20 are
>
> They'll skin and grin while they are getting what=20 they
want from you,
> and throw you away like a used condom = when they=20 are done.
Ask the vets
> who are having their benefits slashed = out from=20 under them
now. Bushfeld
> and their cronies are parasites, and = they=20 are the sole
beneficiaries of
> the chaos you are learning to = live in.=20 They get the money.
You get the
> prosthetic devices, the = nightmares,=20 and the mysterious
illnesses.
>
> So if your rage needs a = target,=20 there they are,
responsible for your
> being there, and = responsible for=20 keeping you there. I
can't tell you to
> disobey. That would = probably=20 run me afoul of the law. That
will be a
> decision you will = have to=20 take when and if the
circumstances and your
> own conscience = dictate.=20 But it perfectly legal for you to
refuse illegal
> orders, and = orders=20 to abuse or attack civilians are
illegal. Ordering
> you to = keep silent=20 about these crimes is also illegal.
>
> I can tell you, = without fear=20 of legal consequence, that
you are never
> under any obligation = to hate=20 Iraqis, you are never under
any obligation
> to give yourself = over to=20 racism and nihilism and the
thirst to kill for
> the sake of = killing,=20 and you are never under any
obligation to let them
> drive out = the last=20 vestiges of your capacity to see and
tell the truth
> to = yourself and=20 to the world. You do not owe them your
souls.
>
> Come = home safe,=20 and come home sane. The people who love
you and
> who have = loved you=20 all your lives are waiting here, and we
want you to
> come back = and be=20 able to look us in the face. Don't leave
your souls in
> the = dust there=20 like another corpse.
>
> Hold on to your = humanity.
>
>=20 Stan Goff
>
> US Army (Ret.)
>
>
> Stan = Goff is=20 the author of "Hideous Dream: A Soldier's
Memoir of the
> US = Invasion=20 of Haiti"
>
<http= ://www.softskull.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.100.exe/store/gof
f/hideous_= dream.
>=20 html?L+scstore+jssh4901+1060182363>"
> (Soft Skull Press, 2000) = and of=20 the upcoming book
> "Full Spectrum Disorder"
>
<http= ://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932360123/counterpu
nchmaga>= ;
>=20 (Soft Skull Press, 2003).
>
> He is a member of the BRING = THEM HOME=20 NOW!
> <http://www.bringthemhomenow.org= />=20 coordinating committee,
a retired
> Special Forces master = sergeant, and=20 the father of an
active duty
> soldier. Email for BRING THEM = HOME NOW!=20 is bthn@mfso.org
> <mailto:bthn@mfso.org>.
>
&g= t; Goff=20 can be reached at: sherrynstan@igc.org
<mailto:sherrynstan@igc.org>>
>
>
>
>

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------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3AC1E.AAD09AA0-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 14:58:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alexi Hamilton) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:58:34 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT - Turbonegro Message-ID:






##################################
"What's the hurry? We're probably
going the wrong way anyhow."
-Eeyore
##################################
>From: "Alex Smith"
>" Alice Cooper is an Okie"
>
>NO HE'S NOT! He's from Arizona by way of Detroit!!
>
>Alex in NYC
>
 
     WOHOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  I hope I'm not responsible if you have heart problems later in life!  Alex...at our ages, we shouldn';t get so riled up especially about Alice Cooper...I stand corrected.  I should have never have listened to my sister and her friends about anything music when I was a tot. 
    Back to packing.
 
~Alexi-Feeling guilty for infuriating the man in NYC

Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 17:31:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dave Axford) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:31:06 -0500 Subject: [kj] Denver References: <5.1.0.14.2.20031116035245.00ac7ca0@pop.central.cox.net> Message-ID: <001501c3ac67$6a8b2a20$826f8a3f@Joker> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3AC3D.81641BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll never forget Jaz's extremely good spirits (his=20 > brother was in the house) and his full body tremor dance. =20 You seem to confirm what I had thought.=20 In Toronto there was a fellow in the audience that was standing to my = left who I thought was Jaz. He looks just like Jaz except that he had = shorter hair and was more heavily set (I thought "A-ha! that's why Jaz = is wearing that smock with the spider on it... He's put on a few pounds = and he's a little self conscience about it"). Then I thought maybe it's = his brother... Are they twins? They certainly could pass as twins.=20 Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3AC3D.81641BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I'll never forget Jaz's extremely good spirits = (his=20
> brother was in the house) and his full body tremor dance.  =
 
You seem to confirm what I had=20 thought.
In Toronto there was a = fellow in the=20 audience that was standing to my left who I thought was Jaz. He = looks just=20 like Jaz except that he had shorter hair and was more heavily set (I = thought=20 "A-ha! that's why Jaz is wearing that smock with the spider on it... = He's put on=20 a few pounds and he's a little self conscience about it").  Then I = thought=20 maybe it's his brother...  Are they twins? They certainly could = pass as=20 twins.
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3AC3D.81641BF0-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 19:19:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:19:23 +0100 Subject: [kj] melkweg pics Message-ID:


check out some brilliant pics from the melkweg gig in august!!!

 

http://www.xlii.net/pics/index.html

 

dirt


Was tun bei Spam? Schutz, Maßnahmen und alle Infos bei lästigen E-Mails! Hier klicken From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 19:31:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Matt) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:31:34 +0100 Subject: [kj] melkweg pics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3151859494_16793_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hey Dirty, Somethin's wrong with the link... Matt From: "Dirk Kingerske" Reply-To: gathering@misera.net Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:19:23 +0100 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] melkweg pics check out some brilliant pics from the melkweg gig in august!!! http://www.xlii.net/pics/index.html dirt Was tun bei Spam? Schutz, Ma=DFnahmen und alle Infos bei l=E4stigen E-Mails! Hier klicken _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --MS_Mac_OE_3151859494_16793_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] melkweg pics Hey Dirty,

Somethin's wrong with the link...
Matt



From: "Dirk Kingerske" <dirkingerske@hotmail.com> Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:19:23 +0100
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: [kj] melkweg pics



check out some brilliant pics from the melkweg gig in august!!!



http://www.xlii.net/pics/index.html



dirt


Was tun bei Spam? Schutz, Ma=DFnahmen und alle Infos bei l=E4stigen E-Mails! Hi= er klicken  <http://g.msn.com/8HMBDEDE/2731??PS=3D>  _________= ______________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@mise= ra.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering

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sorry, wrong url:

http://www.xlii.nl/pics/index.html

>From: "Dirk Kingerske"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: [kj] melkweg pics
>Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:19:23 +0100
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check out some brilliant pics from the melkweg gig in august!!!

 

http://www.xlii.net/pics/index.html

 

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Was tun bei Spam? Schutz, Maßnahmen und alle Infos bei lästigen E-Mails! Hier klicken _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_58b2_589_1e67-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 19:30:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:30:46 +0100 Subject: [kj] melkweg pics Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2af_58c_4eb4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1



sorry, wrong url:

http://www.xlii.nl/pics/index.html

>From: "Dirk Kingerske"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: [kj] melkweg pics
>Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:19:23 +0100
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check out the 2nd mail....



 

>From: Matt
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>To:
>Subject: Re: [kj] melkweg pics
>Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:31:34 +0100
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>Hey Dirty,
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>Somethin's wrong with the link...
>Matt
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>From: "Dirk Kingerske"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:19:23 +0100
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: [kj] melkweg pics
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>check out some brilliant pics from the melkweg gig in august!!!
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>http://www.xlii.net/pics/index.html
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5 neue Buddies = 50 FreeSMS. Hier klicken - der Countdown läuft! FreeSMS abräumen mit dem MSN Messenger. From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 20:41:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?killing=20joke?=) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:41:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] live cd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031116204116.24151.qmail@web25109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-577010799-1069015276=:23325 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit yep it is i never had nwobfg despite trying any chance of a copy of your cover for it colesy??? please mate cheers mike coles wrote: Hello Gatherers I've just purchased a 17 track live cd called "Love Like Blood" isn't that the lorelei concert from nwobfg...? colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-577010799-1069015276=:23325 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
yep it is
i never had nwobfg despite trying
any chance of a copy of your cover for it colesy??? please mate
cheers


mike coles <mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Gatherers
I've just purchased a 17 track live cd called "Love Like Blood"
isn't that the lorelei concert from nwobfg...?
colesy
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Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk
... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-577010799-1069015276=:23325-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 20:51:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:51:30 -0000 Subject: [kj] Eighties t-shirt @ www.punkzone.co.uk Message-ID: <014301c3ac83$6a2049a0$d2887ed4@mydomain.com> Hello folks, I got a flyer today from www.punkzone.co.uk with the updated Captain Oi catalogue (on account of CDs I've bought over the past year or so from The Wall, Skids, 999, Penetration) & they seem to be selling to Eighties t-shirt that originally appeared in that EightBall advert - meanwhile EightBall have sent me a Winter 2003/2004 Catalogue (cos I'm obviously a young punk rockin' rock'n'rollin' skateboardin' hoodlum as the cover assumes) and they are only selling the crusty the clown KJ t-shirt. The advert with the Eighties t-shirt can be viewed here : http://home.clara.net/antoni/punkzone.jpg My advice, save your pennies and buy yourself a groovy reverse movement clock from you know who - they're great ! Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 23:28:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:28:04 -0500 Subject: [kj] Denver Message-ID: <200311162328.hAGNQAd0020324@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Great pics, Mark....thanks for sharing those. I love the marqee of the Bluebird theatre (I have a picture somewhere of Firewater and the Jesus Lizard posing in front of it). Alex in NYC ---------- >From: meddle <_meddle@cox.net> >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] Denver >Date: Sun, Nov 16, 2003, 5:13 AM > >It's been almost two weeks since the Denver show and I still can't quite wrap my >head around having finally seen Killing Joke live. It was everything I >hoped for and >more and worth every mile (17 hours worth) and every $ (gas, hotel, thousands to >fix the damn car, etc). I'll never forget that day ... > >I'll never forget Geordie shuffling out on stage. I'll never forget Jaz >hobbling out on >stage with the giant walking stick in hand. I'll never forget Jaz and >Raven pounding >the stage in time with the opening count of "Communion". I'll never forget that >glorious sound washing over me. I'll never forget Jaz's extremely good >spirits (his >brother was in the house) and his full body tremor dance. I'll never >forget how Ted >perfectly filled the role of Joke drummer. I'll never forget Geordie's >suave, carefree >way of playing and slowly spinning on his stool. I'll never forget being >so close to >Geordie that I could clearly hear the pick thrashing the strings. I'll >never forget all >the other faces around me in the crowd just as happy as mine ... > >Here's a few select digital pics. I didn't use a flash, but I like the >results ... jaz and >jaz3 are fucking evil! > >http://brainwashed.com/weddle/kj/ > > >Mark > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 16 23:50:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:50:46 -0500 Subject: [kj] Moby / KJ link Message-ID: <442E2A3D.459E33E3.0004DF86@aol.com> ...tenuous but: In Friday's Guardian newspaper, there was an interview with Moby, which included the following: "After a teenage stint in high-school punk bands, Moby discovered dance music through the rash of early-eighties outfits who took on funk and disco as an influence to a rock-based sound." ... "Bizarrely, the fashionable bars of downtown Manhattan are now playing early 80s punk-funk on rotation... 'There's a bar I go to in the Lower East Side called Lit, and they're playing 20-year-old records by Killing Joke.'" So Alex - (a) is this true?, and (b) did you see Moby at the NY KJ gig? ;) Jamie From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 00:01:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:01:09 -0500 Subject: [kj] Moby / KJ link References: <442E2A3D.459E33E3.0004DF86@aol.com> Message-ID: <008201c3ac9d$e846c1a0$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C3AC73.FEFCC220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lit, on the lower east side ? wonder if that is one of the bars that the = stranger (a gathering lurker) dj's at? i didn't see moby at the nyc gig but the kj crowd had it's share of hip = follically challenged men ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jpwhkj@aol.com=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Moby / KJ link ...tenuous but: In Friday's Guardian newspaper, there was an interview with Moby, = which included the following: "After a teenage stint in high-school punk bands, Moby discovered = dance music through the rash of early-eighties outfits who took on funk = and disco as an influence to a rock-based sound." ... "Bizarrely, the = fashionable bars of downtown Manhattan are now playing early 80s = punk-funk on rotation... 'There's a bar I go to in the Lower East Side = called Lit, and they're playing 20-year-old records by Killing Joke.'" So Alex - (a) is this true?, and (b) did you see Moby at the NY KJ = gig? ;) Jamie _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C3AC73.FEFCC220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
lit, on the lower east side ? wonder if that is = one of=20 the bars that the stranger (a gathering lurker) dj's at?
 
i didn't see moby at the nyc gig but the kj=20 crowd had it's share of hip follically challenged = men
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jpwhkj@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 = 6:50=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Moby / KJ = link

...tenuous but:

In Friday's Guardian newspaper, = there=20 was an interview with Moby, which included the = following:

"After a=20 teenage stint in high-school punk bands, Moby discovered dance music = through=20 the rash of early-eighties outfits who took on funk and disco as an = influence=20 to a rock-based sound." ... "Bizarrely, the fashionable bars of = downtown=20 Manhattan are now playing early 80s punk-funk on rotation... 'There's = a bar I=20 go to in the Lower East Side called Lit, and they're playing = 20-year-old=20 records by Killing Joke.'"

So Alex - (a) is this true?, and (b) = did you=20 see Moby at the NY KJ gig?=20 = ;)

Jamie
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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C3AC73.FEFCC220-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 00:09:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:09:05 -0500 Subject: [kj] Moby / KJ link Message-ID: <200311170009.hAH090gt003487@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Odd that Moby goes to Lit....it's kinda not fashionable enough a place for him. I do go there quite a bit, but they only seem to be playing Zeppelin and the Pixies when I'm there. I don't remember spotting Moby at the NY gig at Webster Hall, but he very well coulda been there, I supose. My friend Sean lives in the same building of his Mobiness over on Mott street, and once suffered and unfortunate incident wherein Moby's plumbing malfunctioned....spraying some of Sean's furniture with.....wait for it......Mobydung. Pardon the pun, but I shit you not! Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Jpwhkj@aol.com >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Moby / KJ link >Date: Sun, Nov 16, 2003, 6:50 PM > >...tenuous but: > >In Friday's Guardian newspaper, there was an interview with Moby, which >included the following: > >"After a teenage stint in high-school punk bands, Moby discovered dance >music through the rash of early-eighties outfits who took on funk and disco >as an influence to a rock-based sound." ... "Bizarrely, the fashionable >bars of downtown Manhattan are now playing early 80s punk-funk on >rotation... 'There's a bar I go to in the Lower East Side called Lit, and >they're playing 20-year-old records by Killing Joke.'" > >So Alex - (a) is this true?, and (b) did you see Moby at the NY KJ gig? ;) > >Jamie >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 02:54:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:54:59 -0500 Subject: [kj] kj on pirroni web board Message-ID: <00a901c3acb6$31383b60$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C3AC8C.47C38260 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00A6_01C3AC8C.47C38260" ------=_NextPart_001_00A6_01C3AC8C.47C38260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable posted at http://marco-pirroni.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3D805 well done boys!::=20 All I know is the teenaged boys who loved Killing Joke loved to torture = me in the 80's. Prank call me, offer me a ride and drive like assholes, = put my headshot on a fan-zine as the cover girl of The Poser Express. = Horrible boys you were and still are my favorites. Always the cutest.=20 I'd rather not listen along though and fall down the half-pike on a = skateboard, thanks Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:02 pm Post subject: =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - =20 All I know is the teenaged boys who loved Killing Joke loved to = torture me in the 80's. Prank call me, offer me a ride and drive like = assholes, put my headshot on a fan-zine as the cover girl of The Poser = Express. Horrible boys you were and still are . Always the cutest.=20 I'd rather not listen along though and fall down the half-pike on = a skateboard, thanks.=20 _________________ =20 ------=_NextPart_001_00A6_01C3AC8C.47C38260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

posted at=20 http://marco-pirroni.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3D805

well = done=20 boys!:: 
 
 
All I know is the = teenaged boys=20 who loved Killing Joke loved to torture me in the 80's. Prank call me, = offer me=20 a ride and drive like assholes, put my headshot on a fan-zine as the = cover girl=20 of The Poser Express. Horrible boys you were and still are my favorites. = Always=20 the cutest.
I'd rather not listen along though and fall down the = half-pike=20 on a skateboard, thanks
= 3DPost=20Posted: = Thu Nov 06,=20 2003 9:02 pm    Post = subject:=20 3D"Reply
All I = know is the=20 teenaged boys who loved Killing Joke loved to torture me in the = 80's.=20 Prank call me, offer me a ride and drive like assholes, put my = headshot on=20 a fan-zine as the cover girl of The Poser Express. Horrible boys = you were=20 and still are . Always the cutest.
I'd rather not listen = along=20 though and fall down the half-pike on a skateboard, thanks.=20
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Boring but true. N > from: Jpwhkj@aol.com > date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:50:46 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] Moby / KJ link > > ..tenuous but: > > In Friday's Guardian newspaper, there was an interview with Moby, which included the following: > > "After a teenage stint in high-school punk bands, Moby discovered dance music through the rash of early-eighties outfits who took on funk and disco as an influence to a rock-based sound." ... "Bizarrely, the fashionable bars of downtown Manhattan are now playing early 80s punk-funk on rotation... 'There's a bar I go to in the Lower East Side called Lit, and they're playing 20-year-old records by Killing Joke.'" > > So Alex - (a) is this true?, and (b) did you see Moby at the NY KJ gig? ;) > > Jamie > -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 07:26:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (meddle) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 01:26:42 -0600 Subject: [kj] Re: Denver In-Reply-To: <001501c3ac67$6a8b2a20$826f8a3f@Joker> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20031116035245.00ac7ca0@pop.central.cox.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031117012512.026c20c0@pop.central.cox.net> At 11:31 AM 11/16/03, you wrote: > I'll never forget Jaz's extremely good spirits (his brother was in the house) > >You seem to confirm what I had thought. I think Jaz said that his brother had flown in as a surprise. It was difficult to understand him. He was very talkative. He could barely wait for each song to end before he'd get going again ... Mark From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 14:31:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bill Meissner) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:31:22 -0800 Subject: [kj] Angor Wat Message-ID: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D602026019@encore02.libertylivewire.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AD17.7943DED0 Content-Type: text/plain All this talk about Norwegian bands brings to mind a band that I'm not sure has ever been mentioned on the list.The band is called ANGOR WAT.I will attach an address to hear and download an entire album from ANGOR WAT that came out in 1983.The KILLING JOKE influence on this band is so strong that it's weird that it came out in 1983.It's like a cross between KILLING JOKE and old DISORDER(who have lived in Oslo for many years now).The drums really stand out to me just like KJ.The album is called "Med Lov Skal Landet Bygges" To hear or download entire album go to: http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=f &f=%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge PS: This website is a little hidden treasure that I'm sure you will all make use of.I hope you all enjoy this and be prepared to go out to buy a new spindle of CDR's cause there is a shitload of "Good" punkrock and hardcore here.And for all those speaking of TURBONEGRO the past few days,Get your fix here -Entire! TURBONEGRO Albums can be downloaded at this website also.BURN BABY!BURN!(CD's that is) www.punkrock.no/ Have Fun Kids, Bill Meissner PSS: The KJ Los Angeles show kicked my ass! I even scored the set list after the show(almost had to fight for it)I'm going to be scanning it and sending it to the list soon.What a night! ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AD17.7943DED0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

         = ;    All this talk about Norwegian bands brings to mind a band that I'm not sure has ever been mentioned on the list.The band is called ANGOR WAT.I = will attach an address to hear and download an entire album from ANGOR WAT = that came out in 1983.The KILLING JOKE influence on this band is so strong that = it's weird that it came out in 1983.It's like a cross between KILLING JOKE = and old DISORDER(who have lived in Oslo for many years now).The drums = really stand out to me just like KJ.The album is called "Med Lov Skal Landet Bygges" To hear or download entire album go to:

         = ;            = ;            = ; http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=3Df&a= mp;f=3D%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge

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   PS: This website is a little hidden = treasure that I'm sure you will all make use of.I hope you all enjoy this and be prepared to go out to buy a new spindle of CDR's cause there is a shitload of "Good" punkrock and hardcore here.And for all those speaking of TURBONEGRO the past few days,Get your fix here -Entire! = TURBONEGRO Albums can be downloaded at this website also.BURN BABY!BURN!(CD's that is)

         = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;   www.punkrock.no/

 

         = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ; Have Fun Kids,

         = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;            = ;                =          Bill Meissner

    PSS: The KJ Los Angeles show = kicked my ass!

         = ;    I even scored the set list after the show(almost

         = ;    had to fight for it)I'm going to be scanning it and

         = ;    sending it to the list soon.What a night! =             =  

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AD17.7943DED0-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 21:01:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:01:39 -0500 Subject: [kj] a Freispiel begging letter Message-ID: <20031117210140.RMML5427.mta03.fuse.net@smtp.fuse.net> For any German gatherers who might be able to get to this library and thus find a way to share this with the rest of us: http://www.goethe.de/uk/los/media/viddocu.htm#mus Scroll down a bit and you'll find: 78 FRE Freispiel Director: Burkhard Steger, Germany 1994. NTSC 85 From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 21:21:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:21:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Re: [Killing Joke] LA Last Night In-Reply-To: <3FB67F8B.6070607@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031117212115.66691.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> (Great write-up T.Bll., i'll just add my ha'pennys worf) The night left me happy, giddy, soaked in memories but a bit more drunk than i'm used to. It didnt wear off until noon the next day with the help of what's referred to as a 'caldo', like a(beef)stew/broth, i think. I wont try to say how good they were ‘cause others are able to do and indeed have done a much better job of that, but I’ll just say that the show was GrrrRRREAT!!All of them came together like uranium to plutomium. I kept getting a big kick out of Geordie doing his little elbows-in waist-twist ‘boogie woogie’ move that he did from time to time. It was hilarious, it was so ‘un-joke’. He and Raven seem to really get on like brothers in music and real life G. sported a huge grin with a sort of sorrowful half-frown on his forehead, like a mime somewhat. His playing was unstoppable, IMO more forceful than on CD even, and yes as good as others have written except better because he played for L.A. this time(heehee). I was also surprised and elated by “Follow the Leaders” and Empire Song-I thought they weren’t to play that in the US? It was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen, really visceral, hard, intense, fierce, coherent ,yada yada yada. I’ve only seen Bauhaus (resurrection tour) play as good and as tight a sound. Super Pros they are, thru and thru. I feel for all the people who want to see them sooo much but didn’t have the tour swing by their neck of the woods, Missourah, Texas, my 2 cousins in Florida (“Tarpon Springs?! Move!!”). Hoffentlich the rumors of their return are true. Say..for the New Year? Saul "Never never again, or not until next week, anyway" --- Thomas Bell wrote: > So I saw Killing Joke last night at this tiny venue called The > El Ray > Theater in Los Angeles. What an incredible show. I've heard > from other > lists that they've been wildly unpredictable on some of the > shows this > tour with reports from the show recently in Milwaukee, WI were > Jaz was > pretty rough vocally and simply got pissed and stared straight > ahead at > the audience throughout most of the set. No such stuff at last > night's show. > > I got there kinda early 'cause, well the ticket said 8pm but > that was > actually when they opened the doors. Killing Joke didn't come > on until > 11:15. First clue this was going to be something different was > Jaz > wearing a pull over hooded sweater was basically greeting > everyone as > they entered the theater (it was being videotaped), talking > with fans > and generally being a real nice if rather low key guy. > > The El Ray is like a big shoebox that hold about 750 people > with a > fairly small stage and simple lighting rig. At first, I > thought this was > going to be a disaster because it took a *long* time for the > theater to > fill up and it looked like maybe a couple hundred people were > gonna > show. I had a *lot* of time to kill and fortunately, the time > went fast > bullshitting with some cool people. The support band who's > name escapes > me atm was truly awful. They played "rebel" punker music that > was like > third rate shit you'd see the bands in the punk scenes in > "Repo Man." > The singer reminded me of that chubby kid actor who was always > smoking > in "The River's Edge" and "Near Dark" and all he did was bitch > about > "the cunts" and "the slaves" in LA in an attempt to get a rise > out of > the apathetic audience. I have to admit it was pretty > Goddamned funny > when during their last song, he fell off a riser and started > whining > that he broke his leg and finished the song clinging to a fat > roadie > like a life vest. > > Killing Joke came on at 11:15 and opened with an older song > "Communion" > and played a pretty diverse setlist. Honestly, up until the > new album I > haven't really been into the band much through the 90's and > the only > other album I had until recently was "Night Time." And of > course the > bummer about the current setlist was they don't play "Love > Like Blood" > or "Eighties" ( I can understand that omission), however they > did play > "Kings and Queens." They played about 7 songs off the newest > album > including Loose Cannon, Blood on Your hands and Seeing Red. > The only > glaring omission from that album was "You'll Never get To Me" > which is > my favorite track off the album (even if the tempo is a ripoff > of Led > Zep's "Kashmir"). > > Jaz wore a lot of heavy makeup as expected and what looks like > a monk's > overcoat and really plays up the religious aspects. He seemed > really > happy most of the show and was pretty talkative. Geordie had a > great, > cutting tone throughout the set that fried my ears by the end > of the > show. The drummer who's name I forget really held his own > aggressively > wailing on the kit without much of a break. Overall, the band > sounded > incredibly powerful on most of the songs played. Because the > new album > is so in-your-face, I didn't think they'd do the songs justice > live, but > they really blew me away and in some songs, played 'em a bit > faster and > even more furious then on the cd. The show ended at 1am with a > 2 song > encore of "Follow the Leaders" and Pssyche. Really, the only > real > letdown was the audience themselves who were fairly lifeless > except up > front and probably kept the show from being completely over > the top. > > I'd say this was probably the best show I've seen in at least > 5 years, > maybe more. I'd go down to San Diego to see their last show of > the US > tour tonight but unfortunately got other plans. > > T.B. ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 19:33:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:33:01 -0000 Subject: [kj] Moby / KJ link References: <6170079.1069042545535.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <000101c3ad52$2d651a70$18aa883e@mycomputer> You would have thought he would be able to afford to buy copies. Anyone with a stronger stomach than me who could listen to a Moby album heard any KJ samples? > I once interviewed him and we got to talking about his favourite punk records, he mentioned KJ first two LPs but he'd never heard the early singles, Wardance/pssyche, Nervous System, Change etc. So I did him a tape with various singles and some live stuff, plus all the singles by the Pack (pre-Theatre of Hate) as he was a huge fan of Kirk Brandon. Boring but true. > N From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 21:33:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:33:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Way OT: Healthy Babies!!!... In-Reply-To: <200311150516.hAF5GEBf021691@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: <20031117213316.68524.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> --- Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > Congratulations, would need to have > an amnio if, of course, hell freezes over Well, sort of, it did just 'snow' in Watts(south L.A.) this week, enough to bury entire cars and dogs... S ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 21:42:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:42:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT - bush patronizes grieving UK families In-Reply-To: <005701c3aba4$ea316dc0$338b6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031117214207.6808.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> And while he's gone, a Sri Lankan Adjustment Action,perhaps? --- fluw wrote: > http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/11/14/1068674387787.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 21:55:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:55:45 EST Subject: [kj] Moby / KJ link...The Pack Message-ID: <176.22241855.2cea9de1@aol.com> --part1_176.22241855.2cea9de1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Pack....what an exellent band, saw them live in a real pocky club attached to Chelmsford football ground. I used to have the singles (King of Kings...cant remember the other)..........anyway, all my 7-inch vynl was stolen and burned...can anyone let me know, did it ever get put on CD?, or maybe know where I can download it from?. Love'n'Guts Moldewolf --part1_176.22241855.2cea9de1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Pack....what an exellent band, saw them live in a=20= real pocky club attached to Chelmsford football ground. I used to have the s= ingles (King of Kings...cant remember the other)..........anyway, all my 7-i= nch vynl was stolen and burned...can anyone let me know, did it ever get put= on CD?, or maybe know where I can download it from?.

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Moldewolf --part1_176.22241855.2cea9de1_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 21:55:28 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:55:28 -0500 Subject: [kj] Tickety Tockity Message-ID: <200311172156.hAHLu8cw026899@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Just got me own Malicious Damage clock in the mail --- #007, in honor of Sir Connery, of course -- and I'll be hogtied -- it *DOES* go backwards! Cheers, Mike. Excellent work as always.... Alex in NYC From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 21:59:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:59:48 +0100 Subject: [kj] a Freispiel begging letter Message-ID:

i've got the cd and i'll burn it for those who are interested... haven't managed to get hold of the video, though....

mail me off-list and i'll post you a cd-r (it's almost xmass, innit?!)

 

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>For any German gatherers who might be able to get to this library and thus find a way to share this with the rest of us:
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MSN Easysurfer - Surfen Sie für 1,35 Cent / Minute Hier klicken From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 22:03:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:03:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] sydney.. In-Reply-To: <002501c3ab8b$e0862f40$99651997@tmg32> Message-ID: <20031117220327.96692.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> In case of emergency... Australia's National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre identified a problem that was serious enough...it had to issue a warning, mainly for partygoers in the "club" scene: There is no physiological benefit...(and maybe a great harm), in trying to revive drug-overdosers by administering ice-cube enemas. [News Interactive (Australia), 9-24-03] thank you, and enjoy the show saul --- Michele Marchesan wrote: > I'm heading downunder... get a cascade ready > see ya in sydney ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 22:10:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:10:03 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. Message-ID: <200311172209.hAHM9vgt013317@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Sent this to the Firewater list last night, but for the sake of being thorough...... Ahoy mateys.... Just got back from an impromptu roadtrip to see Les Stripes Blanc in the foreign environs of Rhode Island. My friend Rob, who lives in New London, Connecticut, rang me up asking if I'd be interested in checking out the band in Providence, Rhode Island. Being that PreggyPeggy had a business conference to goto this weekend, I was given the green light (and I really do have to stuff in as many rock shows as I can before our offspring hatches). Needlessly lengthy details to follow....stop reading now if that sort've thing pisses you off. So on Saturday, I subway out to Queens to meet Rob, who was in town to see his buddy Tom deliver his dissertation and gain his doctorate (rendering him forever more: "Doctor Tom"). From there, we drive to Rob's former haunt, City Island to meet an old colleague of his for whom he writes commercial copy. After a quick couple o' beers at Gallaghers (populated by a lot of stony-faced fisherman and portly Hell's Angels, who drink somberly to a seemingly endless soundtrack of early-career Bon Jovi on ye olde juke box), we proceed to drive from there to Rob's place in New London to pick up our tix and get directions to the venue....somewhat intriguingly called Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel, which conjured images in my head of an Elvis-themed Italian restaurant. After a lengthy car ride blasting Firewater, the Misfits, Suicidal Tendencies, Cop $hoot Cop and....er...Ice Cube, we arrive in Providence, a city I'd neither of us had been to before (noisily crooning a tunelessly a capella rendition of Blue Oyster Cult's "Dominance & Submission", only substituing "Dominance" for "Providence"). A tangled, pre-enlightenment New England city, the rhyme and reason of urban planning seems lost on the relatively ancient town of Providence (second oldest city in the States?), but we eventually found the seemingly elusive (and tiny) Westminster Street. Lupo's turns out to be a fairly run-of-the-mill "rock club," with high-raftered ceilings (and a number of view-blocking columns), but pleasantly plenty of bars wherein to purchase beers. Right as we enter, the opening band shuffles onstage. Dubbed The Whirlwind Heat, these three chicken-chested indie goobers in matching red t-shirts launched into a deafeningly shrill performance of migraine-inducing racket. One drummer, one bass player, one "vocalist"/"keyboardist" (both words are in quotations, as the gent in question seemed unable to master either task). Simply put, they sucked so bad that we were *ALMOST* tempted to leave. The second said band left the stage, the PA started pumping out FUNHOUSE by the Stooges, and our frowns and moods were immediately lifted and buoyed as we simultaneously lurched into some embarassning air-guitaring to the strains of "Down on the Street." Prior to leaving for this event, my wife had asked: "Where are you going again?" "Oh, to see the White Stripes in a rock club in Rhode Island." Peggy's eyebrows arched: "A rock club in Rhode Island....like that rock club in Rhode Island that burnt to a crisp last year?" Indeed, prior to the White Stripes coming onstage, there was a very thorough and detailed announcement about the fire-exits, the fire-retardent composition of the stage and the proper way to leave the venue should a fire breakout, casting a somewhat chilling palor over the otherwise celebratory atmosphere. Without further ado, out come the Whites (Jack looking a bit like a hirsute cross between Johnny Ramone and Robert Smith, Meg looking beautific and....er...busty). In the plug and *BLAAAM!* high volume rock action for the next hour and a half or so. I don't know how many of you feel about thies band, but as a live act, they completely cook. I'm quite shocked that more metalheads don't appreciate them (maybe they're put off by the stridently eccentric schtick or the indie rock trappings), but in certain points, Jacks and Meg recall and rock as equally hard as AC/DC, Sabbath and vintage Zeppelin in that mutated blooze bombardment sorta way. It's really hard to believe that all that fuckin' sound is coming from only those two performers (you don't miss the bass at all, oddly). I can't provide a set list, but suffice to say there was an ample smattering of tracks from all four albums, all the hits included (though due to the maximum capacity crowd, I must confess that Rob and I made for the exit before the end of the first encore, meaning we missed "Fell in Love with a Girl", if they did indeed play it). I'm somewhat surprised that they ended up in this comparitively tiny venue, but it was very definitively sold the fuck out, as you might've guessed. More than that, however, by the time we'd reached the end of the set, both of us were pretty exhausted. There was something about that very high volume performance in such a compressed space that really takes the wind out of ya. Every time Meg hit the bass drum, you felt a palpable blow right in your solarplexus. It was a relief, honestly, to be out of there. Anyway, a fine time. There you have it.... Ale xin NYC From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 22:13:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:13:18 -0000 Subject: [kj] The Pack References: <176.22241855.2cea9de1@aol.com> Message-ID: <003a01c3ad58$01da0ae0$4a887ed4@mydomain.com> You can get some tracks by The Pack if you buy the Theatre Of Hate/The Pack "The Complete Singles Collection" CD (CDMGRAM 93) - namely Brave New Soldiers/Heathen/King Of Kings/Number 12/Thalidomide/St Teresa/Abattoir. http://www.cherryred.co.uk/anagram/theatreofhatekirkbrandon.htm There were two versions of Kings Of Kings - one was on the Rough Trade 7" plus one on the Long Live The Pack EP" which seems to be the one on this CD. The only other annoying thing about the CD is the version of Legion does not feature John "Boy" Lennard's sax, which was the thing that really made the version on the legendary Original Sin/Legion single. * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Moby / KJ link...The Pack > The Pack....what an exellent band, saw them live in a real pocky club > attached to Chelmsford football ground. I used to have the singles (King of > Kings...cant remember the other)..........anyway, all my 7-inch vynl was stolen and > burned...can anyone let me know, did it ever get put on CD?, or maybe know where > I can download it from?. > > Love'n'Guts > > Moldewolf > From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 22:25:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:25:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. In-Reply-To: <200311172209.hAHM9vgt013317@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: > beers. Right as we enter, the opening band shuffles onstage. Dubbed The > Whirlwind Heat, these three chicken-chested indie goobers in matching red > t-shirts launched into a deafeningly shrill performance of migraine-inducing > racket. One drummer, one bass player, one "vocalist"/"keyboardist" (both > words are in quotations, as the gent in question seemed unable to master > either task). Simply put, they sucked so bad that we were *ALMOST* tempted > to leave. Their full-length is pretty good (not great) in a very self-consciously arty we-rock-no-seriously sort of way. > the next hour and a half or so. I don't know how many of you feel about > thies band, but as a live act, they completely cook. I'm quite shocked that > more metalheads don't appreciate them Too much sincerity, I suspect. Nowadays anything that appears to come from the heart is also supposed to come with a nod and a wink to hint that it's just a stylistic pretense. --Mark From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 00:56:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mistress Raevyn) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:56:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118005613.73176.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> --0-141738999-1069116973=:72464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have seen the Stripes soon to be 5 times here in a week or so...I love those kids! My friends and I ran an underground club back in 2000 called "The Electric Company", I'm friends with Jack's best friend and we signed them up to play at the club. I took pictures along and talked with them a bit..I have watched them rise and rise up to the top and they are quite surprised by their sudden fame...they're really just down to earth kids with a passion for the blues...I highly recommend that everyone see them live.... MR --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-141738999-1069116973=:72464 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I have seen the Stripes soon to be 5 times here in a week or so...I love those kids! My friends and I ran an underground club back in 2000 called "The Electric Company", I'm friends with Jack's best friend and we signed them up to play at the club. I took pictures along and talked with them a bit..I have watched them rise and rise up to the top and they are quite surprised by their sudden fame...they're really just down to earth kids with a passion for the blues...I highly recommend that everyone see them live....
 
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-141738999-1069116973=:72464-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 02:18:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:18:43 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. In-Reply-To: <20031118005613.73176.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > just down to earth kids with a passion for the blues... Aren't they about 29 and 31 years old? They're playing at the Aragon Ballroom in Chicago on New Year's Eve, with Flaming Lips. But the tickets are over $75. I just checked on Ticketmaster again, and tickets aren't available at the moment. Could be sold out I suppose. The price is ridiculous. When I saw them at the same venue last time it was drastically less. Maybe with Flaming Lips as a pretty big draw too, and New Year's Eve and all...but wtf? Not that I would see Korn and Limp Bizkit if you paid me, but for comparison those 2 bands are playing together same place for $32.50. --Mark From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 13:28:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:28:32 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. Message-ID: <200311181329.hAIDTBcw011816@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> "Too much sincerity" I found them anything but serious. Witness their opening comments: "We'd like to thank you for welcoming my sister and I to this lovely island. If I could bring only one book to this island, it would be..." Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Mark Kolmar >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. >Date: Mon, Nov 17, 2003, 5:25 PM > >> beers. Right as we enter, the opening band shuffles onstage. Dubbed The >> Whirlwind Heat, these three chicken-chested indie goobers in matching red >> t-shirts launched into a deafeningly shrill performance of migraine-inducing >> racket. One drummer, one bass player, one "vocalist"/"keyboardist" (both >> words are in quotations, as the gent in question seemed unable to master >> either task). Simply put, they sucked so bad that we were *ALMOST* tempted >> to leave. > >Their full-length is pretty good (not great) in a very self-consciously >arty we-rock-no-seriously sort of way. > >> the next hour and a half or so. I don't know how many of you feel about >> thies band, but as a live act, they completely cook. I'm quite shocked that >> more metalheads don't appreciate them > >Too much sincerity, I suspect. Nowadays anything that appears to come >from the heart is also supposed to come with a nod and a wink to hint that >it's just a stylistic pretense. > >--Mark > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 14:38:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Simon Lee) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:38:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] The Pack/TOH Message-ID: <756295.1069166333980.JavaMail.root@bushtv-java-2.server.telinco.net> ------=_Part_196_2920360.1069166333978 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for that blast from the past. Ah Jon 'Boy' Lennard's sax, the Stammers bass and the wail of Kirk - all combining wonderfully on the break on Incinerator. Wish I was young again. Si > -----Original Message----- > From: antoni@clara.net (Antoni Adamiak) > Sent: Mon Nov 17 22:13:18 GMT 2003 > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] The Pack > > You can get some tracks by The Pack if you buy the Theatre Of Hate/The Pack > "The Complete Singles Collection" CD (CDMGRAM 93) - namely Brave New > Soldiers/Heathen/King Of Kings/Number 12/Thalidomide/St Teresa/Abattoir. > > http://www.cherryred.co.uk/anagram/theatreofhatekirkbrandon.htm > > There were two versions of Kings Of Kings - one was on the Rough Trade 7" > plus one on the Long Live The Pack EP" which seems to be the one on this CD. > > The only other annoying thing about the CD is the version of Legion does not > feature John "Boy" Lennard's sax, which was the thing that really made the > version on the legendary Original Sin/Legion single. > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Moby / KJ link...The Pack > > > > The Pack....what an exellent band, saw them live in a real pocky club > > attached to Chelmsford football ground. I used to have the singles (King > of > > Kings...cant remember the other)..........anyway, all my 7-inch vynl was > stolen and > > burned...can anyone let me know, did it ever get put on CD?, or maybe know > where > > I can download it from?. > > > > Love'n'Guts > > > > Moldewolf > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > ------=_Part_196_2920360.1069166333978 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Return-path: Envelope-to: slee@bushtv-3-internal.mail.telinco.net Delivery-date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:14:20 +0000 Received: from bushtv-1-internal.mail.telinco.net ([192.168.8.182] helo=bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net) by bushtv-3.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1ALrdU-000NOV-00 for slee@bushtv-3-internal.mail.telinco.net; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:14:20 +0000 Received: from [216.92.1.120] (helo=four.pairlist.net) by bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #7) id 1ALrdU-000PT0-00; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:14:20 +0000 Received: from four.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6E7DBDD; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:14:14 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gathering@four.pairlist.net Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3126DDC0D for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:12:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17920 invoked by uid 7122); 17 Nov 2003 22:12:07 -0000 Delivered-To: misera-misera:net-gathering@misera.net Received: (qmail 17916 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2003 22:12:07 -0000 Received: from cerberus.uk.clara.net (195.8.69.103) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2003 22:12:07 -0000 Received: from du-032-0074.claranet.co.uk ([212.126.136.74] helo=host) by cerberus.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 4.22) id 1ALrbK-000P22-1W for gathering@misera.net; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:12:06 +0000 Message-ID: <003a01c3ad58$01da0ae0$4a887ed4@mydomain.com> From: "Antoni Adamiak" To: References: <176.22241855.2cea9de1@aol.com> Subject: Re: [kj] The Pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: gathering-admin@misera.net Errors-To: gathering-admin@misera.net X-BeenThere: gathering@misera.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gathering@misera.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:13:18 -0000 You can get some tracks by The Pack if you buy the Theatre Of Hate/The Pack "The Complete Singles Collection" CD (CDMGRAM 93) - namely Brave New Soldiers/Heathen/King Of Kings/Number 12/Thalidomide/St Teresa/Abattoir. http://www.cherryred.co.uk/anagram/theatreofhatekirkbrandon.htm There were two versions of Kings Of Kings - one was on the Rough Trade 7" plus one on the Long Live The Pack EP" which seems to be the one on this CD. The only other annoying thing about the CD is the version of Legion does not feature John "Boy" Lennard's sax, which was the thing that really made the version on the legendary Original Sin/Legion single. * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Moby / KJ link...The Pack > The Pack....what an exellent band, saw them live in a real pocky club > attached to Chelmsford football ground. I used to have the singles (King of > Kings...cant remember the other)..........anyway, all my 7-inch vynl was stolen and > burned...can anyone let me know, did it ever get put on CD?, or maybe know where > I can download it from?. > > Love'n'Guts > > Moldewolf > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_Part_196_2920360.1069166333978-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 15:16:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:16:22 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. In-Reply-To: <200311181329.hAIDTBcw011816@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > "Too much sincerity" > > I found them anything but serious. Witness their opening comments: "We'd > like to thank you for welcoming my sister and I to this lovely island. If I > could bring only one book to this island, it would be..." I think you're mixing up sincerity and humorlessness then. --Mark From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 16:19:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:19:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] The Pack Message-ID: <6695187.1069172344602.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Yeah that's the CD I've got, plus a few singles. Also annoying is the CD versions of King of Kings/Number 12 are different (and inferior) to the vinyl. But Heathen - what a song - what a voice N > from: Antoni Adamiak > date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:13:18 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] The Pack > > You can get some tracks by The Pack if you buy the Theatre Of Hate/The Pack > "The Complete Singles Collection" CD (CDMGRAM 93) - namely Brave New > Soldiers/Heathen/King Of Kings/Number 12/Thalidomide/St Teresa/Abattoir. > > http://www.cherryred.co.uk/anagram/theatreofhatekirkbrandon.htm > > There were two versions of Kings Of Kings - one was on the Rough Trade 7" > plus one on the Long Live The Pack EP" which seems to be the one on this CD. > > The only other annoying thing about the CD is the version of Legion does not > feature John "Boy" Lennard's sax, which was the thing that really made the > version on the legendary Original Sin/Legion single. > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:55 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Moby / KJ link...The Pack > > > > The Pack....what an exellent band, saw them live in a real pocky club > > attached to Chelmsford football ground. I used to have the singles (King > of > > Kings...cant remember the other)..........anyway, all my 7-inch vynl was > stolen and > > burned...can anyone let me know, did it ever get put on CD?, or maybe know > where > > I can download it from?. > > -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 19:22:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:22:51 -0600 Subject: [kj] Cliff...where the fuck is Cliff????? In-Reply-To: <6695187.1069172344602.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: Ok, the US tour is done with...has anyone heard from Cliff? Is he going to Australia for the short tour there? And before anyone asks, yes, I do miss the old freak. All out of whack when I don=B9t get 20 odd emails a day from him. Look, I even quit smoking while h= e was gone. I am like all fucked up now. Dammit Cliff... KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 19:26:28 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:26:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Cliff...where the fuck is Cliff????? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118192628.8445.qmail@web86108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1938293139-1069183588=:7719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cliffy is a superstar. I think he has gone to Australia. sounds like he's having a ball. But yeah I'm missing the old chap also. Jester wrote: Ok, the US tour is done with...has anyone heard from Cliff? Is he going to Australia for the short tour there? And before anyone asks, yes, I do miss the old freak. All out of whack when I don¹t get 20 odd emails a day from him. Look, I even quit smoking while he was gone. I am like all fucked up now. Dammit Cliff... KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1938293139-1069183588=:7719 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Cliffy is a superstar.  I think he has gone to Australia.  sounds like he's having a ball.
 
But yeah I'm missing the old chap also.


Jester <webmaster@killing-joke.com> wrote:
Ok, the US tour is done with...has anyone heard from Cliff? Is he going to
Australia for the short tour there?


And before anyone asks, yes, I do miss the old freak. All out of whack when
I don¹t get 20 odd emails a day from him. Look, I even quit smoking while he
was gone. I am like all fucked up now. Dammit Cliff...



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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1938293139-1069183588=:7719-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 20:20:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:20:33 +1100 Subject: [kj] Cliff...where the fuck is Cliff????? Message-ID: Hoping to catch up with Cliff tonight for a beer - if he's in Australia. I'm flying up to Sydney this arvo and getting to The Metro early. Mike from Italy (who's already seen the Joke 4 times this year) will also be there to murder a beer with me. It's all just starting to sink in properly, but there's still this surreal quality to it all. I've been a joker since '84 and I NEVER thought I'd ever see them live. Hahahahahahaaaaa, you've just gotta fuckin' love it! W H I T E O U T ! -S ~Analysis, Paralysis~ ---------------------- Forwarded by Scott Lambeth/CO/HIC on 19/11/2003 07:16 --------------------------- bluce ree @misera.net on 19/11/2003 06:26:28 Please respond to gathering@misera.net Sent by: gathering-admin@misera.net To: gathering@misera.net cc: Subject: Re: [kj] Cliff...where the fuck is Cliff????? Cliffy is a superstar.=A0 I think he has gone to Australia.=A0 sounds like = he's having a ball. But yeah I'm missing the old chap also. Jester wrote: Ok, the US tour is done with...has anyone heard from Cliff? Is he going to Australia for the short tour there? And before anyone asks, yes, I do miss the old freak. All out of whack when I don=B9t get 20 odd emails a day from him. Look, I even quit smoking while he was gone. I am like all fucked up now. Dammit Cliff... KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Want to chat instantly with your online friends?=A0Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger **************************************************************** NOTICE - This message is intended only for the use of the=20 addressee named above and may contain privileged and=20 confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not=20 disseminate, copy or take any action based upon it. If you=20 received this message in error please notify HIC immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of HIC. **************************************************************** From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 21:34:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phil) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:34:36 +0000 Subject: [kj] sydney.. In-Reply-To: <20031117220327.96692.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> References: <002501c3ab8b$e0862f40$99651997@tmg32> <20031117220327.96692.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <924lrvcmqu4n9iecba6rk977045almq7cb@4ax.com> dont knock it till youve tried it! On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:03:27 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >In case of emergency... > Australia's National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre >identified a problem that was serious enough...it had to issue a >warning, mainly for partygoers in the "club" scene: There is no >physiological benefit...(and maybe a great harm), in trying to >revive drug-overdosers by administering ice-cube enemas. [News >Interactive (Australia), 9-24-03]=20 > >thank you, and enjoy the show > >saul > >--- Michele Marchesan wrote: >> I'm heading downunder... get a cascade ready >> see ya in sydney=20 > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > >"Get me out=20 > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:03:27 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >In case of emergency... > Australia's National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre >identified a problem that was serious enough...it had to issue a >warning, mainly for partygoers in the "club" scene: There is no >physiological benefit...(and maybe a great harm), in trying to >revive drug-overdosers by administering ice-cube enemas. [News >Interactive (Australia), 9-24-03] > >thank you, and enjoy the show > >saul > >--- Michele Marchesan wrote: >> I'm heading downunder... get a cascade ready >> see ya in sydney > >===== >WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > >"Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of HIC. **************************************************************** From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 21:40:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:40:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Cliff...where the fuck is Cliff????? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118214001.24843.qmail@web86109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-991827550-1069191601=:23967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit say hi if you see him! scott.lambeth@hic.gov.au wrote: Hoping to catch up with Cliff tonight for a beer - if he's in Australia. I'm flying up to Sydney this arvo and getting to The Metro early. Mike from Italy (who's already seen the Joke 4 times this year) will also be there to murder a beer with me. It's all just starting to sink in properly, but there's still this surreal quality to it all. I've been a joker since '84 and I NEVER thought I'd ever see them live. Hahahahahahaaaaa, you've just gotta fuckin' love it! W H I T E O U T ! -S ~Analysis, Paralysis~ ---------------------- Forwarded by Scott Lambeth/CO/HIC on 19/11/2003 07:16 --------------------------- bluce ree @misera.net on 19/11/2003 06:26:28 Please respond to gathering@misera.net Sent by: gathering-admin@misera.net To: gathering@misera.net cc: Subject: Re: [kj] Cliff...where the fuck is Cliff????? Cliffy is a superstar. I think he has gone to Australia. sounds like he's having a ball. But yeah I'm missing the old chap also. Jester wrote: Ok, the US tour is done with...has anyone heard from Cliff? Is he going to Australia for the short tour there? And before anyone asks, yes, I do miss the old freak. All out of whack when I don¹t get 20 odd emails a day from him. Look, I even quit smoking while he was gone. I am like all fucked up now. Dammit Cliff... KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger **************************************************************** NOTICE - This message is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action based upon it. If you received this message in error please notify HIC immediately. 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say hi if you see him!

scott.lambeth@hic.gov.au wrote:

Hoping to catch up with Cliff tonight for a beer - if he's in Australia.
I'm flying up to Sydney this arvo and getting to The Metro early. Mike
from Italy (who's already seen the Joke 4 times this year) will also be
there to murder a beer with me.

It's all just starting to sink in properly, but there's still this surreal
quality to it all. I've been a joker since '84 and I NEVER thought I'd
ever see them live.

Hahahahahahaaaaa, you've just gotta fuckin' love it!

W H I T E O U T !

-S

~Analysis, Paralysis~


---------------------- Forwarded by Scott Lambeth/CO/HIC on 19/11/2003
07:16 ---------------------------


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Cliffy is a superstar.  I think he has gone to Australia.  sounds like he's
having a ball.

But yeah I'm missing the old chap also.


Jester wrote:
Ok, the US tour is done with...has anyone heard from Cliff? Is he going to
Australia for the short tour there?


And before anyone asks, yes, I do miss the old freak. All out of whack when
I don¹t get 20 odd emails a day from him. Look, I even quit smoking while
he
was gone. I am like all fucked up now. Dammit Cliff...



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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-991827550-1069191601=:23967-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 21:53:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:53:27 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. Message-ID: <200311182154.hAILs5gt000893@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> You're merely sticking by a preconception, Mark. They may be pretentious as the day is long, but they do have a sense of humour. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Mark Kolmar >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. >Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2003, 10:16 AM > >On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > >> "Too much sincerity" >> >> I found them anything but serious. Witness their opening comments: "We'd >> like to thank you for welcoming my sister and I to this lovely island. If I >> could bring only one book to this island, it would be..." > >I think you're mixing up sincerity and humorlessness then. > >--Mark > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 22:10:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. In-Reply-To: <200311182154.hAILs5gt000893@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm saying a cheeky sense of humor does not conflict with sincerity. --Mark On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > > You're merely sticking by a preconception, Mark. They may be pretentious as > the day is long, but they do have a sense of humour. > > Alex in NYC > > > ---------- > >From: Mark Kolmar > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. > >Date: Tue, Nov 18, 2003, 10:16 AM > > > > >On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > > > >> "Too much sincerity" > >> > >> I found them anything but serious. Witness their opening comments: "We'd > >> like to thank you for welcoming my sister and I to this lovely island. If I > >> could bring only one book to this island, it would be..." > > > >I think you're mixing up sincerity and humorlessness then. > > > >--Mark > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 18 23:52:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mistress Raevyn) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:52:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: White Strips in R.I. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118235249.88112.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1003082592-1069199569=:88099 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am 29 and I know they are younger than me...It's just a habit to say "kids" In this great flatness where the chill winds course, Where through the nights the weather-cock grows hoarse, My soul, more than in springtime's tepid sky, Will open out her raven's wings to fly." -Baudelaire Mists and Rains --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1003082592-1069199569=:88099 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am 29 and I know they are younger than me...It's just a habit to say "kids"


In this great flatness where the chill winds course,
Where through the nights the weather-cock grows hoarse,
My soul, more than in springtime's tepid sky,
Will open out her raven's wings to fly."
 
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1003082592-1069199569=:88099-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 01:52:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 02:52:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Cliff...where the fuck is Cliff????? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031119025009.O23652-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 scott.lambeth@hic.gov.au wrote: > It's all just starting to sink in properly, but there's still this surreal > quality to it all. I've been a joker since '84 and I NEVER thought I'd > ever see them live. I was in the same situation till August, it is like the coolest Tarantino like twitch you'll ever have. Like you tend to go HA! at people a whole lot more, and yell KJ quotes at them, and oh my god the medication is ruining me .. like .. aaaaaaah! Not the long sleeved jacket, no no nooooooooo! Bo's warden From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 02:18:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:18:45 EST Subject: [kj] loose cannon live Message-ID: <6d.1ce16931.2cec2d05@aol.com> --part1_6d.1ce16931.2cec2d05_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help! What kind of program should be used to open this? I'm burning mp3s on to cds (I just learned how to), but I forgot how to open the Loose Cannon file (is it just one song)? THanks. ...tapping into the Aeons... --part1_6d.1ce16931.2cec2d05_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Help! What kind of program should be used to open this= ? I'm burning mp3s on to cds (I just learned how to), but I forgot how to op= en the Loose Cannon file (is it just one song)? THanks.
...tapping into the Aeons... --part1_6d.1ce16931.2cec2d05_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 02:22:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:22:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Milwaukee interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031119022214.53620.qmail@web80501.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone check this out? Just listened to it over my dinner...A determined woman I met in Milwaukee for the concert was so miffed by the abbreviated set/Jaz-looped-on-medicine scenario that she complained enough and was offered (by a KJ manager) a Jaz interview with her DJ friend ("only" a college radio station, I believe, but still...). It's a 40MB download on 128kps I think (download details pasted at bottom of this message), but with a full hour devoted to the interview and Killing Joke songs. A cheat sheet: -The Jaz interview is pretty good, a lot of the stuff we've heard from other sources but some new things, too, and articulated well. I know by now to treat a Jaz promise lightly, but he does reaffirm plans for more touring next year (including U.S.), another album, and, AHEM, an exhibition in London next year featuring "all of the art from Killing Joke from 1979 to 2003, including unreleased" stuff. (??) Malicious news. -God, KJ songs really do sound good on the radio...it's a shame (or maybe not), they really could be radio-friendly if given the right airwaves; but then what do I know about what works on radio these days? I've given up on my local stations. -Effectively, the DJ mixes in KJ songs to relevant points of the interview, so among the songs played are "Total Invasion," "Democracy," and -- brace yourselves -- a Change remix ("Floating Leaf" maybe?). Also plays D&RS, Tension, an apparently aborted Follow the Leaders due to a skipping record, and even "You'll Never Get To Me." Anyway, made for an enjoyable dinner hour! -Jiri ***** Download: The show is archived on www.wmse.org. Instructions: Schedule page link: http://www.wmse.org/schedule.php Scroll down to Saturday and choose: 4:00 PM - The Host with Alternative. Display available archives for this show Click on the word "Display" to see the archive list. (This may take a minute or so to pop up / fill in.) -"Faith Healer" from The Sensational Alex Harvey Band is played at about 00:18:00 -then the whole interview with KJ and music clips start at about the 01:00:00 mark opening with "The Death and Resurrection Show" and ending at the very end of the 2 hour .mp3 file / 1 hour interview with "Tension". From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 04:26:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Lambeth) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:26:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Jaz & Geordie on TripleJ Message-ID: <20031119042630.37798.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Jokers. Sometime in the next couple of hours there'll be an interview with Jaz & Geordie ahead of their Aussie tour (which starts tonight). Go to triplej.abc.net.au - I think they've got streaming audio... I can't record it - I'm flying up to Sydney to see the boys instead! -S ~Analysis, Paralysis~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 06:48:28 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:48:28 -0500 Subject: [kj] Jaz & Geordie on TripleJ References: <20031119042630.37798.qmail@web41212.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c3ae69$23f0f960$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3AE3F.3A856820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry wasn't able to record it ...fun interview lots of jokes fired off = by jaz... =20 some details: the dj's kept referring to the band as "the killing joke". one dj asked what brings "the killing joke back to australia after = (25/17) years" and without skipping a beat jaz deadpans "quantas". in response to why they still get back together again and record/tour, = jaz says "beer". jaz says (i'm paraphrasing) 'the fishing trip is to wind down after the = tour before heading home and hearing the lady ask him to clean up the = dishes.' after the interview the dj's announced that the metro show is cancelled = due to a certain drummer not being in the country yet!=20 sorry scott, but hold onto your tickets as the dj's proclaim those = tickets are good for the next night's show. =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lambeth=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:26 PM Subject: [kj] Jaz & Geordie on TripleJ Hey Jokers. Sometime in the next couple of hours there'll be an interview with Jaz & Geordie ahead of their Aussie tour (which starts tonight). Go to triplej.abc.net.au - I think they've got streaming audio... I can't record it - I'm flying up to Sydney to see the boys instead! -S ~Analysis, Paralysis~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3AE3F.3A856820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sorry wasn't able to record it ...fun interview lots = of jokes=20 fired off by jaz...  
 
some details: the dj's kept referring to = the band as=20 "the killing joke".
one dj asked what brings "the killing joke back = to=20 australia after (25/17) years" and without skipping a beat = jaz deadpans=20 "quantas".
in response to why they still get back together = again and=20 record/tour, jaz says "beer".
jaz says  (i'm paraphrasing) 'the fishing = trip is to=20 wind down after the tour before heading home and hearing the lady = ask him=20 to clean up the dishes.'
 
after the interview the dj's announced that the = metro show is=20 cancelled due to a certain drummer not being in the country yet! =
 
sorry scott, but hold onto your tickets as the = dj's=20 proclaim those tickets are good for the next night's=20 show.  
   
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lambeth=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, = 2003 11:26=20 PM
Subject: [kj] Jaz & Geordie = on=20 TripleJ

Hey Jokers.

Sometime in the next couple of hours = there'll be an
interview with Jaz & Geordie ahead of their=20 Aussie
tour (which starts tonight).

Go to triplej.abc.net.au = - I=20 think they've got
streaming audio...

I can't record it - I'm = flying=20 up to Sydney to see the
boys instead!

-S

~Analysis,=20 Paralysis~


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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3AE3F.3A856820-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 07:41:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:41:50 +0000 Subject: [kj] exhibition Message-ID: --============_-1142894781==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Jiri writ: AHEM, an exhibition in London next year featuring "all of the art from Killing Joke from 1979 to 2003, including unreleased" stuff. (??) Malicious news. I really want to do this. I've got most of the imagery and graphics ready. I just need to print, mount and frame - not cheap! ...plus pay for gallery hire! I also need a venue so: CALLING ALL GATHERERS Does anyone know of a gallery/venue/empty property in or around central London available for about 4-6 weeks in spring/early summer next year. Also anyone willing to chip in or sponsor will be suitably rewarded. Any help/guidance/suggestion will be greatly appreciated. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142894781==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" exhibition
Jiri writ:
AHEM, an exhibition in London next year
featuring "all of the art from Killing Joke from 1979
to 2003, including unreleased" stuff. (??) Malicious
news.
I really want to do this.
I've got most of the imagery and graphics ready.
I just need to print, mount and frame - not cheap!
...plus pay for gallery hire!

I also need a venue so:
CALLING ALL GATHERERS
Does anyone know of a gallery/venue/empty property in or around central London available for about 4-6 weeks in spring/early summer next year.

Also anyone willing to chip in or sponsor will be suitably rewarded.

Any help/guidance/suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
cheers,
colesy
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--============_-1142894781==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 08:19:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (DG) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:19:32 -0800 Subject: [kj] sydney.. References: Message-ID: <006401c3ae75$dca5dcd0$11effea9@BRAINSAW> Wouldn't that be poopsicles? Cheers, damebo. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, 18 November, 2003 13:38 Subject: Re: [kj] sydney.. > > They sell popsicles at the Metro, just in case. > > -S > > ~Analysis, Paralysis~ > > ---------------------- Forwarded by Scott Lambeth/CO/HIC on 19/11/2003 > 08:37 --------------------------- > > > Phil @misera.net on 19/11/2003 08:34:36 > > Please respond to gathering@misera.net > > Sent by: gathering-admin@misera.net > > > To: gathering@misera.net > cc: > > Subject: Re: [kj] sydney.. > > > dont knock it till youve tried it! > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:03:27 -0800 (PST), you wrote: > > >In case of emergency... > > Australia's National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre > >identified a problem that was serious enough...it had to issue a > >warning, mainly for partygoers in the "club" scene: There is no > >physiological benefit...(and maybe a great harm), in trying to > >revive drug-overdosers by administering ice-cube enemas. 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Message-ID: <20031119103825.C49D43969@sitemail.everyone.net> Under these circumstances, could this treatment be classed as "The Death and Resurrection Show"? > > > >thank you, and enjoy the show > > > >saul > > _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 10:44:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fat potanga) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:44:32 +0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Ray Charles Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_6b5f_5d2f_5718 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This brought tears to my eyes... =:¬D _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------=_NextPart_000_6b5f_5d2f_5718 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="ray.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ray.jpg" 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I can't believe it . . I've been posting there again for a week at = least and the bastards still haven't front paged me . . is there no justice in = the world ? (good news bit) I've managed to burn the Reason 2.5 CD's !!=20 I can't find your address now though . . . if you'd like to remind me = I'll get 'em in the post :o) Marc.=20 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: fat potanga [SMTP:fatpotanga@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:45 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: [kj] (OT) Ray Charles >=20 > This brought tears to my eyes... =3D:=ACD >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile << = File: > ray.jpg >>=20 >=20 >=20 This communication may contain information that is confidential and = legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). = If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information = within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet = Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 11:14:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:14:30 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Ray Charles Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF14B@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> (slaps wrists) That should've gone off list :o) Please ignore . . . (unless you're Mr Potanga) > -----Original Message----- > From: Phillipps Marc [SMTP:Marc.Phillipps@enfield.nhs.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:11 AM > To: 'gathering@misera.net' > Subject: RE: [kj] (OT) Ray Charles >=20 >=20 > B3ta perchance ? >=20 > I can't believe it . . I've been posting there again for a week at = least > and > the bastards still haven't front paged me . . is there no justice in = the > world ? >=20 > (good news bit) >=20 > I've managed to burn the Reason 2.5 CD's !!=20 >=20 > I can't find your address now though . . . if you'd like to remind me = I'll > get 'em in the post :o) >=20 > Marc.=20 > =20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fat potanga [SMTP:fatpotanga@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:45 AM > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Subject: [kj] (OT) Ray Charles > >=20 > > This brought tears to my eyes... =3D:=ACD > >=20 > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile << = File: > > ray.jpg >>=20 > >=20 > >=20 > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > legally > privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). = If > you > are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of > distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information > within > is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this > communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete = and > destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims = any > liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. = This > communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet > Enfield > & Haringey Health Communities. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >=20 >=20 This communication may contain information that is confidential and = legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). = If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information = within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet = Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 11:48:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:48:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] exhibition Message-ID: <79EE6F1B.6702FA69.0004DF86@aol.com> Colesy, What is the total cost likely to be? Jamie > I've got most of the imagery and graphics ready. > I just need to print, mount and frame - not cheap! > ...plus pay for gallery hire! > > > I also need a venue so: > CALLING ALL GATHERERS > Does anyone know of a gallery/venue/empty property in or around central London available for about 4-6 weeks in spring/early summer next year. > > > Also anyone willing to chip in or sponsor will be suitably rewarded. > > > Any help/guidance/suggestion will be greatly appreciated. > cheers, > colesy From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 12:07:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (JOKERS PUB CAFE) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:07:20 -0200 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke tru Sony References: Message-ID: <003301c3ae95$b270c180$96ccddc8@o7l3j2> "Sony Brasil" has released the new album in Brasil, maybe now there's a chance for a tour next year, hope the sales go well, I've also seen Loose Cannon and Seeing Red clips on MTV. diaz From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 12:14:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (JOKERS PUB CAFE) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:14:57 -0200 Subject: [kj] Bootlegs References: <200311162328.hAGNQAd0020324@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <00fb01c3ae96$c22a8600$96ccddc8@o7l3j2> Hey Rob Moss, what about a new Bootleg on your site, I guess everybody has already downloaded Roskilde and Lanterns of Dope all the best diaz From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 13:18:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Leigh Newton) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:18:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] (OT) Ray Charles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031119131804.75433.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> Oh, the humanity.... --- fat potanga wrote: > This brought tears to my eyes... =:¬D > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile phone > http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > > ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name=ray.jpg ===== http://www.daiquiri.tvheaven.com http://www.tweek.tvheaven.com http://www.mp3.com/tweek http://www.mp3.com/green_lung __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 14:55:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?=) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:55:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Bootlegs In-Reply-To: <00fb01c3ae96$c22a8600$96ccddc8@o7l3j2> Message-ID: <20031119145536.53952.qmail@web86108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Rem I haven't, and won't have time to for a week or 2 then again Rob could always put them online again if he's feeling kind!!! --- JOKERS PUB CAFE wrote: > Hey Rob Moss, > > what about a new Bootleg on your site, I guess > everybody has already > downloaded Roskilde and Lanterns of Dope > > > all the best > > > diaz > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 15:04:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dave Axford) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:04:47 -0500 Subject: [kj] Woo Hoo! Message-ID: <005301c3aeae$79471530$826f8a3f@Joker> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C3AE84.905B8960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An arrest warrant has just been issued for Michael Jackson. Let the tabloids blare! Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C3AE84.905B8960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
An arrest warrant has just been issued for = Michael=20 Jackson.
 
Let the tabloids blare!
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C3AE84.905B8960-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 15:47:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:40 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <200311191547.hAJFlJgv018952@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152083660_255173_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gatheruzzz.... Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official round of voir dire. This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked? Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? - Alex in NYC --MS_Mac_OE_3152083660_255173_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!

I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gath= eruzzz....

Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and= I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure ev= eryone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday= due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which= I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was calle= d into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO M= ONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone = believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of t= ime. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself includ= ed. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge a= nd all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that m= y wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconv= enient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I = was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of cou= rse). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official round= of voir dire.

       This doesn't mean I'm definetely = on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I E= NSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft= a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my= services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed= pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just s= hy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disrupti= ve juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), wha= t do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?

       Should I dust off my most offensi= ve Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misun= derstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow = stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

- Alex in NYC

--MS_Mac_OE_3152083660_255173_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 15:50:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:50:20 -0600 Subject: [kj] Woo Hoo! In-Reply-To: <005301c3aeae$79471530$826f8a3f@Joker> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152080221_7090561 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Court TV reported that it was already issued, last night when they stormed his house. What a fucking strange individual he is. If he had only stayed a black man. All these troubles start when he becomes a white woman. White women are the devil! On 11/19/03 9:04 AM, "Dave Axford" wrote: > An arrest warrant has just been issued for Michael Jackson. > > Let the tabloids blare! > > Dave > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM --B_3152080221_7090561 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Woo Hoo! Court TV reported that = it was already issued, last night when they stormed his house. What a fuckin= g strange individual he is. If he had only stayed a black man. All these tro= ubles start when he becomes a white woman. White women are the devil!

On 11/19/03 9:04 AM, "Dave Axford" <daxford@rogers.com> wro= te:

An arrest warrant has just been issued for Michael Jackson.
Let the tabloids blare!
Dave



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THE WEBMASTER,
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--B_3152080221_7090561-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 16:03:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:03:15 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <200311191547.hAJFlJgv018952@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152080996_7191926 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Well, I have always said I would never have a jury trial, if I was ever in trouble, because jurors are 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty. That said, how far over the top are you willing to go. Next, who are the particulars in the case? I got excused from a case involving a black man that was run over during a resisting arrest, by the arresting officer. The black guy was filing a law suit against the cop that hit him with the car. When asked about my feeling= s on the case, I said =B3I think he should have killed the fucker. What if that ass hole had come across my girl friend or mom? You don=B9t run from the cops and expect to get away with it, dumb ass. The officer should take him out back and run him over again, to get the point across, better=B2 The point is to become so offensive to ONE side, they refuse to have you, due to the fac= t you refuse to change your mind on the case. Also feel free to use racial slurs. They also do wonders in getting you out of jury duty. Remember, racism is not against the law, per say, but they sure as hell don=B9t want yo= u on a jury. Boils down to how far your willing to go to get off the case. Bu= t to help you out, you need to tell me a small amount of what the case is about....then I can get you out of it...hahaha On 11/19/03 9:47 AM, "Alex Smith" wrote: >=20 >=20 > I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, > Gatheruzzz.... >=20 > Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, a= nd I > dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure > everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yest= erday > due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on whi= ch > I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was cal= led > into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO > MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if any= one > believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount o= f > time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself > included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of th= e > judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explai= ned > that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be high= ly > inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long > stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke > t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for = the > official round of voir dire. >=20 > This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but I > really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS J= URY? > I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining what a hard= ship > it will be for my department to lose my services for such a potentially > lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shoc= ked > that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of threatening to be a > distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (which might l= and > me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I d= on't > get picked?=20 >=20 > Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain= that > Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and wa= lk > into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? >=20 > - Alex in NYC >>=20 >=20 KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 --B_3152080996_7191926 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Well, I have always sai= d I would never have a jury trial, if I was ever in trouble, because jurors = are 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty.

That said, how far over the top are you willing to go.

Next, who are the particulars in the case?

I got excused from a case involving a black man that was run over during a = resisting arrest, by the arresting officer. The black guy was filing a law s= uit against the cop that hit him with the car. When asked about my feelings = on the case, I said “I think he should have killed the fucker. What if= that ass hole had come across my girl friend or mom? You don’t run fr= om the cops and expect to get away with it, dumb ass. The officer should tak= e him out back and run him over again, to get the point across, better”= ; The point is to become so offensive to ONE side, they refuse to have you, = due to the fact you refuse to change your mind on the case. Also feel free t= o use racial slurs. They also do wonders in getting you out of jury duty. Re= member, racism is not against the law, per say, but they sure as hell don= 217;t want you on a jury. Boils down to how far your willing to go to get of= f the case. But to help you out, you need to tell me a small amount of what = the case is about....then I can get you out of it...hahaha

On 11/19/03 9:47 AM, "Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net> = wrote:



I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gath= eruzzz....

Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and= I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure ev= eryone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday= due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which= I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was calle= d into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO M= ONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone = believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of t= ime. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself includ= ed. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge a= nd all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that m= y wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconv= enient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I = was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of cou= rse). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official round= of voir dire.

       This doesn't mean I'm definetely = on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I E= NSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft= a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my= services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed= pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just s= hy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disrupti= ve juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), wha= t do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?

       Should I dust off my most offensi= ve Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misun= derstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow = stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

- Alex in NYC




KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

--B_3152080996_7191926-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 16:03:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:03:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <200311191547.hAJFlJgv018952@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031119160336.25606.qmail@web80408.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2061842755-1069257816=:24346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii No, don't try the *Wil Ferrel*. (ha!ha!) You shouldn't have reported (that's how they get 'ya). I always send in the summons card/paper with "I can't afford it" on the reasons part. It's always worked so far - 3 times. Tom. Alex Smith wrote: I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gatheruzzz.... Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official round of voir dire. This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked? Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? - Alex in NYC --0-2061842755-1069257816=:24346 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
<Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO?>
 
No, don't try the *Wil Ferrel*.    (ha!ha!)
 
You shouldn't have reported (that's how they get 'ya).   I always send in the summons card/paper with "I can't afford it" on the reasons part.   It's always worked so far - 3 times.
 
Tom. 


Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:


I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gatheruzzz....

Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official round of voir dire.

       This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?

       Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

- Alex in NYC

--0-2061842755-1069257816=:24346-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 16:03:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:03:25 +0000 Subject: [kj] exhibition costs Message-ID: --============_-1142864688==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Jamie writed: What is the total cost likely to be? How long's a piece of string... But seriously it could be anything from a few grand upwards. I'm going to check around over the next few weeks and try and get some sort of figure I can focus on. Just the gallery alone could be a few hundred quid a week. Then digital prints. Canvas/panels to mount said prints onto and then varnish over. Sound systems - well you couldn't not hear the bloody music could you!! Video projector(s). A book/catalogue. Eventually everything would pay for itself in catalogue/poster/t-shirt sales. Hopefully. I'll keep you all up-to-date on progress. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142864688==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" exhibition costs
Jamie writed:
What is the total cost likely to be?
How long's a piece of string...
But seriously it could be anything from a few grand upwards.
I'm going to check around over the next few weeks and try and get some sort of figure I can focus on.
Just the gallery alone could be a few hundred quid a week.
Then digital prints.
Canvas/panels to mount said prints onto and then varnish over.
Sound systems - well you couldn't not hear the bloody music could you!!
Video projector(s).
A book/catalogue.
Eventually everything would pay for itself in catalogue/poster/t-shirt sales.
Hopefully.
I'll keep you all up-to-date on progress.
cheers,
colesy
--
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--============_-1142864688==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 16:09:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:09:40 +0000 Subject: [kj] alexINJURY Message-ID: --============_-1142864312==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? ...if only you'd bought a malicious dolly t-shirt to wear with your "I love wacko jacko" cap!!! Seriously though, take your wife and your boss with you. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142864312==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" alexINJURY
Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO?
...if only you'd bought a malicious dolly t-shirt to wear with your "I love wacko jacko" cap!!!

Seriously though, take your wife and your boss with you.
cheers,
colesy
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... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
--============_-1142864312==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 16:19:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:19:33 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <200311191619.hAJGJRgt021902@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152085573_370244_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit At the moment, possible elements of the plan are as follows: (1) get my boss to draft a letter explaining what a hinderance it would be to lose my services for the two month stretch. On TIME letterhead, of course. (2) Being adamant, obstinate and emphatic about my wife's pregnancy (this does not involve lying whatsoever). I am a million times more concerned about the health and well-being of my wife and unborn child than I ever will be about this case. That said, I will be utterly distacted, possibly disruptive and almost certainly non-compliant just within the boundries of the law. (3) Be very vocal about my concerns. (4) Shave currently thugish display of facial hair into disquieting Hitler mustach and possibly wear my "One Night Only from the Hate-Fuck Capital City, PUSSY GALORE!" t-shirt (I'd wear one of my innumerable Cop Shoot Cop shirts, but that might be a bit too foolhardy in a federal courthouse.) Seriously, I'm going to be totally fucked (in a not nice way) if I don't escape this. Someone suggested just being honest, but being honest also means explaining to them that I will be completely useless to them as a juror, as I will be entirely distracted during the proceedings of the case. Moreover, it will also be impossible for me to be objective, impartial and fair as a juror, as I am already DEEPLY RESENTFUL and EXCEPTIONALLY BITTER in regards to BOTH the prosecution and the defense for not allowing the FACT that my wife is pregnant excuse me from serving on this case (once again, the health and well-being of my wife and unborn child matter more to me than the any particulars of the case). That they failed to consider that has only increased my inability to react to them with anything other than abject disdain and hostitlity. The letter from TIME is a flawed concept, but I may use it just to have another arrow in my quiver. Like someone mentioned above, it's going to sound wholly devoid of merit that the media giant that is TIME-Warner cannot find another employee to fill my shoes while I'm serving on the jury. That said, my department is not just a gaggle of cogs. A new person would have to be trained, and that takes time. Moreover, this is also the busiest time of year for the magazine (and I'm sure the busiest time of year for everybody), with the "Person of the Year" double-issue looming. The tasteless t-shirt idea sounds entirely juvenile, I know, but why not? I really don't give a tinker's cuss if I offend any of them. At this stage of the game, this is about self-preservation. Moreover, lest any of you think I'm shirking my responsibilities as a citizen, I would be happy to be tossed back into the jury pool to wait for another (ideally more conventional) case. I just cannot sit on a jury that expects to last no shorter than two months. If that means wearing an offensive t-shirt, fuckin' so be it. Alex in NYC ---------- From: Jester To: Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 11:03 AM Well, I have always said I would never have a jury trial, if I was ever in trouble, because jurors are 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty. That said, how far over the top are you willing to go. Next, who are the particulars in the case? I got excused from a case involving a black man that was run over during a resisting arrest, by the arresting officer. The black guy was filing a law suit against the cop that hit him with the car. When asked about my feelings on the case, I said I think he should have killed the fucker. What if that ass hole had come across my girl friend or mom? You dont run from the cops and expect to get away with it, dumb ass. The officer should take him out back and run him over again, to get the point across, better The point is to become so offensive to ONE side, they refuse to have you, due to the fact you refuse to change your mind on the case. Also feel free to use racial slurs. They also do wonders in getting you out of jury duty. Remember, racism is not against the law, per say, but they sure as hell dont want you on a jury. Boils down to how far your willing to go to get off the case. But to help you out, you need to tell me a small amount of what the case is about....then I can get you out of it...hahaha On 11/19/03 9:47 AM, "Alex Smith" wrote: I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gatheruzzz.... Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official round of voir dire. This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked? Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? - Alex in NYC KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM --MS_Mac_OE_3152085573_370244_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!
 At the moment, possible elements of the plan are as follows:

(1) get my boss to draft a letter explaining what a hinderance it would be = to lose my services for the two month stretch. On TIME letterhead, of course= .

(2) Being adamant, obstinate and emphatic about my wife's pregnancy (this d= oes not involve lying whatsoever). I am a million times more concerned about= the health and well-being of my wife and unborn child than I ever will be a= bout this case. That said, I will be utterly distacted, possibly disruptive = and almost certainly non-compliant just within the boundries of the law.

(3) Be very vocal about my concerns.

(4) Shave currently thugish display of facial hair into disquieting Hitler = mustach and possibly wear my "One Night Only from the Hate-Fuck Capital= City, PUSSY GALORE!" t-shirt (I'd wear one of my innumerable Cop Shoot= Cop shirts, but that might be a bit too foolhardy in a federal courthouse.)=

Seriously, I'm going to be totally fucked (in a not nice way) if I don't es= cape this. Someone suggested just being honest, but being honest also means = explaining to them that I will be completely useless to them as a juror, as = I will be entirely distracted during the proceedings of the case. Moreover, = it will also be impossible for me to be objective, impartial and fair as a j= uror, as I am already DEEPLY RESENTFUL and EXCEPTIONALLY BITTER in regards t= o BOTH the prosecution and the defense for not allowing the FACT that my wif= e is pregnant excuse me from serving on this case (once again, the health an= d well-being of my wife and unborn child matter more to me than the any part= iculars of the case). That they failed to consider that has only increased m= y inability to react to them with anything other than abject disdain and hos= titlity.

The letter from TIME is a flawed concept, but I may use it just to have ano= ther arrow in my quiver. Like someone mentioned above, it's going to sound w= holly devoid of merit that the media giant that is TIME-Warner cannot find a= nother employee to fill my shoes while I'm serving on the jury. That said, m= y department is not just a gaggle of cogs. A new person would have to be tra= ined, and that takes time. Moreover, this is also the busiest time of year f= or the magazine (and I'm sure the busiest time of year for everybody), with = the "Person of the Year" double-issue looming.

The tasteless t-shirt idea sounds entirely juvenile, I know, but why not? I= really don't give a tinker's cuss if I offend any of them. At this stage of= the game, this is about self-preservation. Moreover, lest any of you think = I'm shirking my responsibilities as a citizen, I would be happy to be tossed= back into the jury pool to wait for another (ideally more conventional) cas= e. I just cannot sit on a jury that expects to last no shorter than two mont= hs. If that means wearing an offensive t-shirt, fuckin' so be it.

Alex in NYC



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From: Jester <webmaster@killing-joke.com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!
Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 11:03 AM


Well, I have always said I would never have a jury trial, if I = was ever in trouble, because jurors are 12 people too stupid to get out of j= ury duty.

That said, how far over the top are you willing to go.

Next, who are the particulars in the case?

I got excused from a case involving a black man that was run over during a = resisting arrest, by the arresting officer. The black guy was filing a law s= uit against the cop that hit him with the car. When asked about my feelings = on the case, I said I think he should have killed the fucker. What if that a= ss hole had come across my girl friend or mom? You dont run from the cops an= d expect to get away with it, dumb ass. The officer should take him out back= and run him over again, to get the point across, better The point is to bec= ome so offensive to ONE side, they refuse to have you, due to the fact you r= efuse to change your mind on the case. Also feel free to use racial slurs. T= hey also do wonders in getting you out of jury duty. Remember, racism is not= against the law, per say, but they sure as hell dont want you on a jury. Bo= ils down to how far your willing to go to get off the case. But to help you = out, you need to tell me a small amount of what the case is about....then I = can get you out of it...hahaha

On 11/19/03 9:47 AM, "Alex Smith" <va= ssifer@earthlink.net> wrote:



I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gath= eruzzz....

Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and= I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure ev= eryone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday= due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which= I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was calle= d into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO M= ONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone = believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of t= ime. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself includ= ed. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge a= nd all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that m= y wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconv= enient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I = was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of cou= rse). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official round= of voir dire.

       This doesn't mean I'm definetely = on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I E= NSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft= a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my= services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed= pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just s= hy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disrupti= ve juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), wha= t do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?

       Should I dust off my most offensi= ve Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misun= derstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow = stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

- Alex in NYC




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--MS_Mac_OE_3152085573_370244_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 16:20:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:20:00 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <200311191547.hAJFlJgv018952@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: On 11/19/03 9:47 AM, "Alex Smith" wrote: > Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that > Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk > into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? NOOOOO...none of that. Too obvious. Be conservative, and look "normal". Then let the surprises come out of your mouth. Try to be offensive to the defendant. Find out as much as you can on the defendants case, and set yourself in opposition to them... KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 16:20:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:20:34 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <200311191620.hAJGJRgv021902@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152085634_373950_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit They *ALWAYS* find me, Tom. You'd think with a last name like "Smith" I'd be tougher to track down. Alas nay. Ale xin NYC ---------- From: Thomas Kennedy To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 11:03 AM No, don't try the *Wil Ferrel*. (ha!ha!) You shouldn't have reported (that's how they get 'ya). I always send in the summons card/paper with "I can't afford it" on the reasons part. It's always worked so far - 3 times. Tom. Alex Smith wrote: I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gatheruzzz.... Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hea r why we might have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official round of voir dire. This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to make su re I don't get picked? Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? - Alex in NYC --MS_Mac_OE_3152085634_373950_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!
They *ALWAYS* find me, Tom. You'd think with a last name like "Smith&q= uot; I'd be tougher to track down. Alas nay.

Ale xin NYC


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From: Thomas Kennedy <tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.net>
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!
Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 11:03 AM


<Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow = stain? WHAT MUST I DO?>
 
No, don't try the *Wil Ferrel*.    (ha!ha!)
 
You shouldn't have reported (that's how they get 'ya).   I always= send in the summons card/paper with "I can't afford it" on the re= asons part.   It's always worked so far - 3 times.
 
Tom.


Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.ne= t> wrote:


I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gath= eruzzz....

Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and= I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure ev= eryone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday= due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which= I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was calle= d into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO M= ONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone = believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of t= ime. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself includ= ed. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge a= nd all twenty lawyers) to hea r why we might have problem. I explained that = my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly incon= venient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I= was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of co= urse). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official roun= d of voir dire.

       This doesn't mean I'm definetely = on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I E= NSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft= a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my= services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed= pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just s= hy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disrupti= ve juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), wha= t do I have to do to make su re I don't get picked?

       Should I dust off my most offensi= ve Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misun= derstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow = stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

- Alex in NYC


--MS_Mac_OE_3152085634_373950_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 16:36:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dave Axford) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:36:56 -0500 Subject: [kj] Woo Hoo! References: Message-ID: <008601c3aebb$58dfb880$826f8a3f@Joker> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C3AE91.6FCBBD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Woo Hoo! Court TV reported that it was already issued, last night when they = stormed his house. What a fucking strange individual he is. If he had = only stayed a black man. All these troubles start when he becomes a = white woman. White women are the devil! You just KNOW someone is absolutely, possitively, innocent all of the = time when they have Johnny Cochrane's phone number in the number one = position on the speed dial... Dave ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C3AE91.6FCBBD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Woo Hoo!
 
 

Court TV = reported that=20 it was already issued, last night when they stormed his house. What a = fucking=20 strange individual he is. If he had only stayed a black man. All these = troubles start when he becomes a white woman. White women are the=20 devil!

You just KNOW someone is absolutely, possitively, innocent = all=20 of the time when they have Johnny Cochrane's phone number in the = number one=20 position on the speed dial...
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C3AE91.6FCBBD20-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 17:04:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:04:59 -0600 Subject: [kj] Woo Hoo! In-Reply-To: <008601c3aebb$58dfb880$826f8a3f@Joker> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152084700_7360565 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I heard it was a 12 year old boy this time, for Jacko. Brings to mind a little quote from an old Arnold movie...=B2Ass like a 12 year old boy...=B2 What will Johnny=B9s defense be in this one for Whacko? =B3If it doest fit.....use more lube=B2 On 11/19/03 10:36 AM, "Dave Axford" wrote: > =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >> Court TV reported that it was already issued, last night when they stor= med >> his house. What a fucking strange individual he is. If he had only stay= ed a >> black man. All these troubles start when he becomes a white woman. Whit= e >> women are the devil! >>=20 >> You just KNOW someone is absolutely, possitively, innocent all of the t= ime >> when they have Johnny Cochrane's phone number in the number one positio= n on >> the speed dial... >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> Dave >=20 KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 --B_3152084700_7360565 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Woo Hoo! I heard it was a 12 yea= r old boy this time, for Jacko. Brings to mind a little quote from an old Ar= nold movie...”Ass like a 12 year old boy...”

What will Johnny’s defense be in this one for Whacko? “If it do= est fit.....use more lube”

On 11/19/03 10:36 AM, "Dave Axford" <daxford@rogers.com> wr= ote:



 
 

 
Court TV reported that  it was already issued, last night when they st= ormed his house. What a fucking  strange individual he is. If he had on= ly stayed a black man. All these  troubles start when he becomes a whit= e woman. White women are the  devil!

You just KNOW someone is absolutely, possitively, innocent all &n= bsp;of the time when they have Johnny Cochrane's phone number in the number = one  position on the speed dial...
 <= BR>  
 
Dave



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WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

--B_3152084700_7360565-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 17:22:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dave Axford) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:22:36 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! References: Message-ID: <00b001c3aec1$ba359220$826f8a3f@Joker> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C3AE97.D12651B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > NOOOOO...none of that. Too obvious. Be conservative, and look = "normal". Then > let the surprises come out of your mouth. Try to be offensive to the > defendant. Find out as much as you can on the defendants case, and set > yourself in opposition to them... >=20 Nah, how about playing dumb?=20 Try refering to the judge as "Your Majesty", to emphasize the fact that = you *just don't get it.* =20 Tell them that the defendant has been living a life of "denial and = error" in regards to the law...=20 Toss in the fact that it's not "rocket appliance" to know that the = defendant is guilty... And that if they only understood the laws of "supply and command" then = they'd know that jury could effect your career. Just a thought, Dave ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C3AE97.D12651B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>
> NOOOOO...none of that. Too = obvious. Be=20 conservative, and look "normal". Then
> let the surprises come out = of your=20 mouth. Try to be offensive to the
> defendant. Find out as much as = you can=20 on the defendants case, and set
> yourself in opposition to=20 them...
>
Nah, how about playing dumb? =
Try refering to the judge as "Your = Majesty", to=20 emphasize the fact that you *just don't get it.*  
Tell them that the defendant has = been living a=20 life of "denial and error" in regards to the law...
Toss in the fact that it's = not "rocket=20 appliance" to know that the defendant is guilty...
 And that if they=20 only understood the laws of "supply and command" then = they'd know=20 that jury could effect your career.
 
Just a thought,
 
Dave
------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01C3AE97.D12651B0-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 17:33:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:33:46 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <00b001c3aec1$ba359220$826f8a3f@Joker> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152086427_7497917 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 11/19/03 11:22 AM, "Dave Axford" wrote: >=20 Try refering to the judge as "Your Majesty", I don=B9t know why, but that is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time....try that...it might just work. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 --B_3152086427_7497917 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! On 11/19/03 11:22 AM, &= quot;Dave Axford" <daxford@rogers.com> wrote:


Try refering to the judge as "Your Majesty",
I don’t know why, but that is one of the funniest things I have read = in a long time....try that...it might just work.


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--B_3152086427_7497917-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 18:07:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Greyson Stoehr) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:07:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] (OT) Napoleon XIV In-Reply-To: <20031119160601.424A9DAD6@four.pairlist.net> Message-ID: <20031119180736.12369.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Colesy: Do you realise the b-side is just the same song, only backwards? Greyson > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:40:09 +0000 > To: gathering@misera.net > From: mike coles > Subject: [kj] (OT) Napoleon XIV > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > Has anyone got, or can point me towards, a copy of > "They're Coming To > Take Me Away" by Napoleon XIV? > I need the b-side too. > cheers, > colesy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 18:11:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Greyson Stoehr) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:11:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <20031119160601.424A9DAD6@four.pairlist.net> Message-ID: <20031119181145.22515.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Don't know if you could pull this off or not, Alex, but insisting you're a Fundamentalist Christian who could not POSSIBLY sit in judgement over another human being "because Christ tells us 'Judge not, lest ye be judged'..." usually makes most lawyers INSIST they do not want you on the panel. Grey > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:40 -0500 > Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! > From: "Alex Smith" > To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > > > I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of > brainstorming, so have at it, > Gatheruzzz.... > > Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my > shoulder once again, and > I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge > hassle, as I'm sure > everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off > of one voir-dire > yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit > that my then co-op board > (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was > involved in. Today, however, I > was called into to be panelled for a case that they > expect will take as long > as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty > lawyers!! They asked if > anyone believed they had serious problems with being > able to serve this > amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the > panel raised their hands, > myself included. Individually, they brought us into > a small room (in front > of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we > might have problem. I > explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a > lesser extent..that it would > be highly inconvenient for my department at work to > cover for me for such a > long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly > (in a black Killing Joke > t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come > back on Thursday for the > official round of voir dire. > > This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury > for this case, but I > really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY > DISMISSAL FROM THIS > JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a > letter explaining what a > hardship it will be for my department to lose my > services for such a > potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much > indeed pregnant....I'm > somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. > Just shy of threatening > to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially > disruptive juror (which > might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what > do I have to do to make > sure I don't get picked? > > Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy > Galore t-shirt? Maintain > that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood > genius? Wet my pants and > walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? > WHAT MUST I DO? > > - Alex in NYC > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 18:27:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:27:59 +0000 Subject: [kj] gnos emas Message-ID: --============_-1142856011==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Do you realise the b-side is just the same song, only backwards? I'd forgotten that! Thanks Greyson. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142856011==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" gnos emas
Do you realise the b-side is just the same song, only
backwards?
I'd forgotten that! Thanks Greyson.
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--============_-1142856011==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 18:40:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:40:03 -0000 Subject: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs Message-ID: <000d01c3aecc$8dfb1670$90748751@mycomputer> anyone know a website where i can get a list of prong gigs? i need to tie down a date for a gig at CBGB's in 1989 many thanks in advance all the best tim From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 18:48:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:48:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <20031119181145.22515.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> from "Greyson Stoehr" at Nov 19, 2003 10:11:45 AM Message-ID: <200311191848.hAJImIW7029993@basil.jkm.net> > Don't know if you could pull this off or not, Alex, > but insisting you're a Fundamentalist Christian who > could not POSSIBLY sit in judgement over another human > being "because Christ tells us 'Judge not, lest ye be > judged'..." usually makes most lawyers INSIST they do > not want you on the panel. What sort of case is it? Usually you get some clues from the questions. Unless the baby is due within the dates of the trial, they aren't going to let you off. The jury pool is frightening: people without jobs who watch Jerry Springer all day. And we wonder at the verdicts that get handed down? There's hardly ever a good time for an employer to let an employee go for two months -- National Guard duty, jury duty, whatever. But what this means is that they aren't willing to do "community service." (ahem) So obviously our American jury concept of nearly everyone being able to be a juror and having a jury of one's peers, or at least non-Jerry Springer watchers, has become flawed. If you've made it this far, both lawyers have not used their peremptory strikes on you. They've used them on others. The only way they can strike you now is for cause. You have to prove to them that you are unable to be impartial, or that you are unable to impose the range of sentencing for the crime (if this is even a criminal case!) that is required by the law. So....... my advice would be to find out what case it is, read as much as you can on it, form a lot of opinions, and say which side should win and why. THAT gets you struck for cause without you having to lie. If you can't find out exactly which case -- but can come close -- works the same way. If you want to write me off-list, I can try to help. Amy "not a lawyer but it seems like all my friends & relatives are" From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 18:51:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:51:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: from "Jester" at Nov 19, 2003 11:33:46 AM Message-ID: <200311191851.hAJIp4QZ000049@basil.jkm.net> > Try refering to the judge as "Your Majesty", Or asking why he isn't wearing a wig..... (LOL) From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 18:52:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:52:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <00b001c3aec1$ba359220$826f8a3f@Joker> from "Dave Axford" at Nov 19, 2003 12:22:36 PM Message-ID: <200311191852.hAJIq0k1000111@basil.jkm.net> > Nah, how about playing dumb? > Try refering to the judge as "Your Majesty", to emphasize the fact that you *just don't get it.* > Tell them that the defendant has been living a life of "denial and error" in regards to the law... > Toss in the fact that it's not "rocket appliance" to know that the defendant is guilty... > And that if they only understood the laws of "supply and command" then they'd know that jury could effect your career. Are you kidding?! We have a sitting president that is dumber than that! From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 18:51:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:51:59 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! References: <200311191547.hAJFlJgv018952@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <00d201c3aece$38520060$90748751@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C3AECE.361815F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!on the simpsons once they = said "tell them you're predjudiced against everyone"=20 which i quite like ;-) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Smith=20 To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, = Gatheruzzz.... Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once = again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, = as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one = voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my = then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved = in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that = they expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer = than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious = problems with being able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine = tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself included. Individually, = they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge and all twenty = lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that my wife is = pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconvenient = for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I was = also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of = course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the = official round of voir dire. This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but = I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM = THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining = what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for = such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed = pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. = Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and = potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" = trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?=20 Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? = Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet = my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST = I DO?=20 - Alex in NYC ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C3AECE.361815F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!
on the simpsons once they said "tell = them you're=20 predjudiced against everyone"
which i quite like ;-)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alex=20 Smith
To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, = 2003 3:47=20 PM
Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty = Dilemna! Help=20 Help Help!



I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of = brainstorming,=20 so have at it, Gatheruzzz....

Alright. So, the tentacles of the = system=20 tapped my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty=20 yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed = to excuse=20 myself off of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior = lawsuit=20 that my then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was = involved=20 in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that = they=20 expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than = twenty=20 lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with = being=20 able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the = panel=20 raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us = into a=20 small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why = we might=20 have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser=20 extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work = to=20 cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and = scowly=20 (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me = to come=20 back on Thursday for the official round of voir=20 dire.

       This doesn't = mean I'm=20 definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, = NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work = to have=20 my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my = department=20 to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is = very=20 much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in = my=20 favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and=20 potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of = court"=20 trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?=20

       Should I dust off my = most=20 offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a = criminally=20 misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a = big=20 yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

- Alex in NYC

------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C3AECE.361815F0-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 18:57:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:57:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <200311191848.hAJImIW7029993@basil.jkm.net> from "Amy Moseley Rupp" at Nov 19, 2003 12:48:18 PM Message-ID: <200311191857.hAJIvbiX000160@basil.jkm.net> > There's hardly ever a good time for an employer to let > an employee go for two months -- National Guard duty, > jury duty, whatever. But what this means is that they > aren't willing to do "community service." I wanted to clarify this a bit -- I am sickened by the general trend for companies to put money above all else, including any idea of community service. They want to infuence the laws as "corporate citizens" yet they do not want to make the sacrifices such as compulsory military service and jury duty that a *real* citizen has to make. And the biggest want to be international and above the rules and laws of any one country. This is hardly a radical or unheard-of view, and I'm sure the folks involved in selecting jurors are getting plenty fed up with it, because it means that almost everyone who is employed is going to have a difficult to impossible time serving -- which leaves only the unemployed. Take out those who are unemployed because they are severely disabled, or caring for children, or .... and you are left with a pretty small and rather skewed pool of folks. My statements were general and not at all directed towards Alex's employer (I don't even know who he works for!). --Amy From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 19:05:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mik Raven) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:05:29 -0000 Subject: [kj] (OT) Napoleon XIV References: Message-ID: <00e401c3aed0$1a734b60$0200a8c0@Paulas> Here it is Mike http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Napoleon.zip Mik ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike coles" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: [kj] (OT) Napoleon XIV > Has anyone got, or can point me towards, a copy of "They're Coming To > Take Me Away" by Napoleon XIV? > I need the b-side too. > cheers, > colesy > -- > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 19:11:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Deadjester) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:11:50 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! References: <200311191547.hAJFlJgv018952@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <002a01c3aed0$fca50690$7cbb2f44@god> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C3AEA7.13A8D8F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!When you go back in act as if = you have severe ADD. I did that to get off jury duty a couples of years = ago. I just constantly asked them to repeat the questions they asked me = and acted as if my short term memory was practically nonexistant. = Neither the defendant or Pro will like that at all. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Smith=20 To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, = Gatheruzzz.... Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once = again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, = as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one = voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my = then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved = in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that = they expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer = than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious = problems with being able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine = tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself included. Individually, = they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge and all twenty = lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that my wife is = pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconvenient = for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I was = also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of = course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the = official round of voir dire. This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but = I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM = THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining = what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for = such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed = pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. = Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and = potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" = trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?=20 Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? = Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet = my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST = I DO?=20 - Alex in NYC ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C3AEA7.13A8D8F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!
When you go back in act as if you have = severe ADD.=20 I did that to get off jury duty a couples of years ago. I just = constantly asked=20 them to repeat the questions they asked me and acted as if my short term = memory=20 was practically nonexistant. Neither the defendant or Pro will like that = at=20 all.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alex=20 Smith
To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, = 2003 10:47=20 AM
Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty = Dilemna! Help=20 Help Help!



I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of = brainstorming,=20 so have at it, Gatheruzzz....

Alright. So, the tentacles of the = system=20 tapped my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty=20 yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed = to excuse=20 myself off of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior = lawsuit=20 that my then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was = involved=20 in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that = they=20 expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than = twenty=20 lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with = being=20 able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the = panel=20 raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us = into a=20 small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why = we might=20 have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser=20 extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work = to=20 cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and = scowly=20 (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me = to come=20 back on Thursday for the official round of voir=20 dire.

       This doesn't = mean I'm=20 definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, = NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work = to have=20 my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my = department=20 to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is = very=20 much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in = my=20 favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and=20 potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of = court"=20 trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?=20

       Should I dust off my = most=20 offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a = criminally=20 misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a = big=20 yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

- Alex in NYC

------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C3AEA7.13A8D8F0-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 19:12:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:12:19 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <7F9A39B9.6650A6E6.0004DF86@aol.com> Just hurry up and get convicted of something. From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 19:20:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:20:02 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <002a01c3aed0$fca50690$7cbb2f44@god> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152092804_7871514 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable You could just walk in wearing a t shirt that simply says =B3Adolph was right=B2, twitch uncontrollably, and babble on about something incoherent...you know, like the majority of the gathering does, myself included. On 11/19/03 1:11 PM, "Deadjester" wrote: > When you go back in act as if you have severe ADD. I did that to get off = jury > duty a couples of years ago. I just constantly asked them to repeat the > questions they asked me and acted as if my short term memory was practica= lly > nonexistant. Neither the defendant or Pro will like that at all. >> =20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> =20 >> From: Alex Smith >> =20 >> To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net >> =20 >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:47 AM >> =20 >> Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, >> Gatheruzzz.... >>=20 >> Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again,= and >> I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sur= e >> everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire >> yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op b= oard >> (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, howeve= r, I >> was called into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as= long >> as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They ask= ed if >> anyone believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this >> amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hand= s, >> myself included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in fr= ont >> of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem.= I >> explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it w= ould >> be highly inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for su= ch a >> long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing= Joke >> t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday fo= r the >> official round of voir dire. >>=20 >> This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but = I >> really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS >> JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining wha= t a >> hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for such a >> potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm >> somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of threat= ening >> to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (whi= ch >> might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to = make >> sure I don't get picked? >>=20 >> Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Mainta= in >> that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants= and >> walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? >>=20 >> - Alex in NYC >> =20 >>>=20 >=20 KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 --B_3152092804_7871514 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! You could just walk in = wearing a t shirt that simply says “Adolph was right”, twitch un= controllably, and babble on about something incoherent...you know, like the = majority of the gathering does, myself included.

On 11/19/03 1:11 PM, "Deadjester" <rivethead@comcast.net> w= rote:

When you go back in act as if you have severe ADD. I did that to get off ju= ry duty a couples of years ago. I just constantly asked them to repeat the q= uestions they asked me and acted as if my short term memory was practically = nonexistant. Neither the defendant or Pro will like that at all.

----- Original Message -----
 
From:  Alex  Smith <mailto:vassifer@earthlink.net>  
 
To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net
 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:47  AM
 
Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help  Help Help!
 



I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming,  so have at it= , Gatheruzzz....

Alright. So, the tentacles of the system  tapped my shoulder once agai= n, and I dutifully reported for jury duty  yesterday. A huge hassle, as= I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse  myself off of one v= oir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit  that my th= en co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved  i= n. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that they &nb= sp;expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than tw= enty  lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems= with being  able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenth= s of the panel  raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they= brought us into a  small room (in front of the judge and all twenty la= wyers) to hear why we might  have problem. I explained that my wife is = pregnant, and...to a lesser  extent..that it would be highly inconvenie= nt for my department at work to  cover for me for such a long stretch. = I was also typically surly and scowly  (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt= , of course). No dice. They asked me to come  back on Thursday for the = official round of voir  dire.

       This doesn't mean I'm  defin= etely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that,  NEED= EDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have &= nbsp;my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my dep= artment  to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My = wife is very  much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't = sway them in my  favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, no= n-compliant and  potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in &= quot;contempt of court"  trouble), what do I have to do to make su= re I don't get picked?  

       Should I dust off my most  o= ffensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally=  misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a= big  yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

- Alex in NYC
 




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--B_3152092804_7871514-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 19:31:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:31:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: from "Jester" at Nov 19, 2003 01:20:02 PM Message-ID: <200311191931.hAJJV4cR001099@basil.jkm.net> > right=B2, twitch uncontrollably, and babble on about something > incoherent...you know, like the majority of the gathering does, myself > included. Yeah, I was thinking of Tourette's. And disregarding any rules of order. A "God is dead" T-shirt quoting Nietzche would be interesting. But this is NYC, right?! Weird and whacked is everywhere, no? Alex, do you like to play Devil's Advocate? Threatening to hang any jury would perhaps work nicely ;-) From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 19:50:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:50:48 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemma! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <200311191931.hAJJV4cR001099@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: On 11/19/03 1:31 PM, "Amy Moseley Rupp" wrote: > Alex, do you like to play Devil's Advocate? Threatening to > hang any jury would perhaps work nicely ;-) But wouldn=B9t that get you a "contempt" charge? Expressing your "true" views is one thing, threatening to tamper with the justice system is another. The job thing is, however, OUT. Throw that idea away, and don't even consider it. That right there will completely cancel anything else you may do, out, and you will find yourself right there on the jury. Think, if he i= s really that crazy, he wouldn=B9t HAVE a job, much less at Time. One thought i= s this. The defense, if a criminal case, will look at you as being pissed off at the system. Thus, you will more than likely be more easily swayed to believe a case of reasonable doubt. NOT GUILTY! You ALWAYS want to piss off the defendant and their legal team. If they don=B9t want you, or if they fear you, your off the case. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 19:55:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:55:11 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <200311191955.hAJJtpcw006007@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152098512_93237_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This is damn funny, but they'd probably see right through it. Alex in NYC ---------- From: "Dave Axford" To: Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 12:22 PM > > NOOOOO...none of that. Too obvious. Be conservative, and look "normal". Then > let the surprises come out of your mouth. Try to be offensive to the > defendant. Find out as much as you can on the defendants case, and set > yourself in opposition to them... > Nah, how about playing dumb? Try refering to the judge as "Your Majesty", to emphasize the fact that you *just don't get it.* Tell them that the defendant has been living a life of "denial and error" in regards to the law... Toss in the fact that it's not "rocket appliance" to know that the defendant is guilty... And that if they only understood the laws of "supply and command" then they'd know that jury could effect your career. Just a thought, Dave --MS_Mac_OE_3152098512_93237_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!
This is damn funny, but they'd probably see right through it.

Alex in NYC


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From: "Dave Axford" <daxford@rogers.com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!
Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 12:22 PM



>
> NOOOOO...none of that. Too obvious. Be conservative, and look "no= rmal". Then
> let the surprises come out of your mouth. Try to be offensive to the > defendant. Find out as much as you can on the defendants case, and set=
> yourself in opposition to them...
>
Nah, how about playing dumb?
Try refering to the judge as "Your Majesty", to emphasize the fac= t that you *just don't get it.*  
Tell them that the defendant has been living a life of "denial and err= or" in regards to the law...
Toss in the fact that it's not "rocket appliance" to know that th= e defendant is guilty...
 And that if they only understood the laws of "supply and command= " then they'd know that jury could effect your career.
 
Just a thought,
 
Dave

--MS_Mac_OE_3152098512_93237_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 19:57:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:57:57 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <200311191957.hAJJtpd0006007@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> This is just so out of character that I doubt they'd buy it for a second (I don't think I'd believe it myself). The t-shirt idea, under closer scrutiny, does seem like a bad one....it'll just come off looking like a prank. That said, I did pick up a lovely black VENOM shirt (WELCOME TO HELL cover) that has lovely inscription about spitting at the worshipped virgin on the back. Maybe I'll bust that one out for the trial if I don't get sprung. Fuck! Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Greyson Stoehr >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! >Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 1:11 PM > >Don't know if you could pull this off or not, Alex, >but insisting you're a Fundamentalist Christian who >could not POSSIBLY sit in judgement over another human >being "because Christ tells us 'Judge not, lest ye be >judged'..." usually makes most lawyers INSIST they do >not want you on the panel. > >Grey > > >> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:40 -0500 >> Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! >> From: "Alex Smith" >> To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net >> Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> >> >> >> I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of >> brainstorming, so have at it, >> Gatheruzzz.... >> >> Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my >> shoulder once again, and >> I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge >> hassle, as I'm sure >> everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off >> of one voir-dire >> yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit >> that my then co-op board >> (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was >> involved in. Today, however, I >> was called into to be panelled for a case that they >> expect will take as long >> as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty >> lawyers!! They asked if >> anyone believed they had serious problems with being >> able to serve this >> amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the >> panel raised their hands, >> myself included. Individually, they brought us into >> a small room (in front >> of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we >> might have problem. I >> explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a >> lesser extent..that it would >> be highly inconvenient for my department at work to >> cover for me for such a >> long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly >> (in a black Killing Joke >> t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come >> back on Thursday for the >> official round of voir dire. >> >> This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury >> for this case, but I >> really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY >> DISMISSAL FROM THIS >> JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a >> letter explaining what a >> hardship it will be for my department to lose my >> services for such a >> potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much >> indeed pregnant....I'm >> somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. >> Just shy of threatening >> to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially >> disruptive juror (which >> might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what >> do I have to do to make >> sure I don't get picked? >> >> Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy >> Galore t-shirt? Maintain >> that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood >> genius? Wet my pants and >> walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? >> WHAT MUST I DO? >> >> - Alex in NYC >> > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 20:05:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:05:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemma! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: from "Jester" at Nov 19, 2003 01:50:48 PM Message-ID: <200311192005.hAJK54Ah001376@basil.jkm.net> > > Alex, do you like to play Devil's Advocate? Threatening to > > hang any jury would perhaps work nicely ;-) >=20 >=20 > But wouldn=B9t that get you a "contempt" charge? Expressing your "true"= views > is one thing, threatening to tamper with the justice system is another. It would only be contempt if you were doing it deliberately. Being a journalist, for example, works best if one has an open mind and is able to see all viewpoints. Such a person would NOT work well on a jury where the job is to make a decision quickly and stick to it. I knew using the word "threatening" was a bad choice of words -- how about "insinuating"? Someone likely to overanalyse and not come to a strong conclusion would be a nightmare for both sides. Some defence attorneys will similarly strike engineers, because they are not typically easily swayed by emotion, or nuance, or subjectiveness -- they are too ploddingly objective. No, I think prejudicing oneself to the case is best. The other way to spin Time/Warner is that it is a *media* company; one is much more likely to hear about *any* case there than if one worked at say a mechanic's shop. From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 20:13:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:13:01 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemma! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <200311192013.hAJKDhgt016042@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> "No, I think prejudicing oneself to the case is best. The other way to spin Time/Warner is that it is a *media* company; one is much more likely to hear about *any* case there than if one worked at say a mechanic's shop." Brought that up yesterday --- that I work for the News Desk of TIME Magazine, but that didn't seem to phase them at all. Just got a letter from my boss that reads as follows: To whom it may concern, I would like to request a deferment for Alex Smith. He is a key part of the operation of TIME's News Service operation in its Rockefeller Center headquarters. Finding and training a replacement for him will be extremely difficult at this time, which is a critical period in the magazine's yearly schedule. I will appreciate your kind consideration of this matter. Please accept my gratitude in advance Sincerely, (his name) News Director. Think that'll do it? Alex in NYC ---------- >From: amyr@jump.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemma! Help Help Help! >Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 3:05 PM > >> > Alex, do you like to play Devil's Advocate? Threatening to >> > hang any jury would perhaps work nicely ;-) >> >> >> But wouldn=B9t that get you a "contempt" charge? Expressing your "true" vi= ews >> is one thing, threatening to tamper with the justice system is another. > >It would only be contempt if you were doing it deliberately. Being >a journalist, for example, works best if one has an open mind and is >able to see all viewpoints. Such a person would NOT work well on >a jury where the job is to make a decision quickly and stick to it. > >I knew using the word "threatening" was a bad choice of words -- >how about "insinuating"? Someone likely to overanalyse and not >come to a strong conclusion would be a nightmare for both sides. > >Some defence attorneys will similarly strike engineers, because they are >not typically easily swayed by emotion, or nuance, or subjectiveness -- >they are too ploddingly objective. > >No, I think prejudicing oneself to the case is best. The other way to >spin Time/Warner is that it is a *media* company; one is much more >likely to hear about *any* case there than if one worked at say >a mechanic's shop. >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 20:21:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:21:17 EST Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemma! Help Help Help! Message-ID: --part1_b0.415d2924.2ced2abd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit T-shirt sounds good, make one up.something like GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY HANG THEM HANG THEM BUT TORTURE THEM FIRST THEN THE DEFENCE THEN THE PROSECUTION ESPECIALLY THE JURY Very childish I know Good Luck Moldewolf --part1_b0.415d2924.2ced2abd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable T-shirt sounds good, make one up.something like

GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
HANG THEM HANG THEM
BUT TORTURE THEM FIRST
THEN THE DEFENCE
THEN THE PROSECUTION
ESPECIALLY THE JURY



Very childish I know

Good Luck

Moldewolf

 --part1_b0.415d2924.2ced2abd_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 21:35:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:35:53 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! References: <200311191848.hAJImIW7029993@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: <04de01c3aee6$bf18a3c0$90db87d9@mycomputer> Maybe you should just do your civic duty and make your country a better place to be? Never know you might get lucky and get the Micheal Jackson case! > > Don't know if you could pull this off or not, Alex, > > but insisting you're a Fundamentalist Christian who > > could not POSSIBLY sit in judgement over another human > > being "because Christ tells us 'Judge not, lest ye be > > judged'..." usually makes most lawyers INSIST they do > > not want you on the panel. > > What sort of case is it? > From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 21:59:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (wardance) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:59:00 +0100 Subject: [kj] Bootlegs References: <200311162328.hAGNQAd0020324@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <00fb01c3ae96$c22a8600$96ccddc8@o7l3j2> Message-ID: <006701c3aee8$56dc26e0$91cffea9@Wehrwolf> NOOOO , PLEASE !!!!! I still haven't downloaded them yet !!!.... (But I'm doing it right now !) Just wait 'til tomorrow, please... Thanks ! ;-) Hans Wehrwolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOKERS PUB CAFE" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: [kj] Bootlegs > Hey Rob Moss, > > what about a new Bootleg on your site, I guess everybody has already > downloaded Roskilde and Lanterns of Dope > > > all the best > > > diaz > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 19 23:10:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:10:13 -0500 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <200311192310.hAJNArgt020745@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> The only good thing about being on jury duty this week is that I've been able to catch up on my reading. Just finished Mark Paytress' "authorised biography" of Siouxsie & the Banshees. Done inna oral history style (mainly comprised of interviews with Severin, Budgie and La Sioux herself), it charts the bands history from the very beginning to its recent "Seven Year Itch" tour last year, and is largely entertaining (if you're a Banshees fan, that is). Though they're not cited in the index, there *IS* a mention of Killing Joke (though not a grand one). Apparently the Banshees played alongside Killing Joke in 1994 in a bullring, possibly in Italy. Ring any bells? Though I thought the reunion show last year was depressing and dire, I'm still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what the rest of the Gathering feels about them. What say you? Alex in NYC From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 02:56:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Madani) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:56:22 -0500 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ References: <200311192310.hAJNArgt020745@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <000901c3af11$e122b980$2a508c0a@Pimpster> >Apparently the Banshees played > alongside Killing Joke in 1994 in a bullring, possibly in Italy. Ring any > bells? Was that Barcelona? Some festival or other, which Jaz recalls was a time that the mighty Joke played to 100,000 people or thereabouts? > Though I thought the reunion show last year was depressing and dire, I'm > still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what the rest of the Gathering > feels about them. What say you? I don't make it to too many live gigs, but I liked what I did hear, and that was mostly because Robert Smith from The Cure was in the Banshees for a bit, and I did/do like The Cure. I'm not sure if that's OK or not ;-) but anyway.... From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 03:06:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:06:46 EST Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: --part1_c8.405a1ae9.2ced89c6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The best way to make your country a better place is to speak up, get out on the street, oppose this bloody ridiculous war, fight the massive budget cuts and layoffs (due to the war), and make yourself counted! --part1_c8.405a1ae9.2ced89c6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The best way to make your country a better place is to= speak up, get out on the street, oppose this bloody ridiculous war, fight t= he massive budget cuts and layoffs (due to the war), and make yourself count= ed! --part1_c8.405a1ae9.2ced89c6_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 03:08:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:08:21 -0500 Subject: [kj] Wardance Shirt Message-ID: <200311200309.hAK392gt009879@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Just got one from Mikey the C, and hot damn isn't it wonderful! Cheers as always. Alex in NYC From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 03:11:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:11:02 EST Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: --part1_f3.32d2b67c.2ced8ac6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No offense, but from what little I've heard, they should be called Snoozie and the Banshees (although Sid Vicious was actually their first drummer)! Here is cool band to check out: A Certain Ratio (ACR)--formely Joy Division's opening band, a cool, sometimes dark, funk/punk outfit. --part1_f3.32d2b67c.2ced8ac6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No offense, but from what little I've heard, they shou= ld be called Snoozie and the Banshees (although Sid Vicious was actually the= ir first drummer)! Here is cool band to check out:
A Certain Ratio (ACR)--formely Joy Division's opening band, a cool, sometime= s dark, funk/punk outfit. --part1_f3.32d2b67c.2ced8ac6_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 04:06:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:06:02 -0500 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <200311200406.hAK46fcw013576@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152127962_245763_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and champion A Certain Ratio? Consider your opinion thoroughly MOOTED! Sid Vicious was no better a drummer than he was a bassist. Alex in NYC ---------- From: GregSlawson@aol.com To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 10:11 PM No offense, but from what little I've heard, they should be called Snoozie and the Banshees (although Sid Vicious was actually their first drummer)! Here is cool band to check out: A Certain Ratio (ACR)--formely Joy Division's opening band, a cool, sometimes dark, funk/punk outfit. --MS_Mac_OE_3152127962_245763_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and champion A Certain Ratio? Consider your op= inion thoroughly MOOTED!

Sid Vicious was no better a drummer than he was a bassist.

Alex in NYC


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From: GregSlawson@aol.com
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 10:11 PM


No offense, but from what little I've heard, the= y should be called Snoozie and the Banshees (although Sid Vicious was actual= ly their first drummer)! Here is cool band to check out:
A Certain Ratio (ACR)--formely Joy Division's opening band, a cool, sometim= es dark, funk/punk outfit.
--MS_Mac_OE_3152127962_245763_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 04:12:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:12:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: <200311192310.hAJNArgt020745@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031120051134.W81279-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > Though I thought the reunion show last year was depressing and dire, I'm > still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what the rest of the Gathering > feels about them. What say you? I would rather see another Creatures show than a Banshees reunion. They were damned good when i saw them at Roskilde in 1998. b From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 04:25:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:25:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: <200311200406.hAK46fcw013576@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031120042548.69259.qmail@web80401.mail.yahoo.com> --0-753073425-1069302348=:69133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I second that! A CERTAIN RATIO was total shit. SIOUXSIE was great, and THE CURE was great too..... Tom. Alex Smith wrote: Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and champion A Certain Ratio? Consider your opinion thoroughly MOOTED! Sid Vicious was no better a drummer than he was a bassist. Alex in NYC ---------- From: GregSlawson@aol.com To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 10:11 PM No offense, but from what little I've heard, they should be called Snoozie and the Banshees (although Sid Vicious was actually their first drummer)! Here is cool band to check out: A Certain Ratio (ACR)--formely Joy Division's opening band, a cool, sometimes dark, funk/punk outfit. --0-753073425-1069302348=:69133 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I second that!   A CERTAIN RATIO was total shit.   SIOUXSIE was great, and THE CURE was great too.....
 
Tom.


Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:

Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and champion A Certain Ratio? Consider your opinion thoroughly MOOTED!

Sid Vicious was no better a drummer than he was a bassist.

Alex in NYC


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From: GregSlawson@aol.com
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 10:11 PM


No offense, but from what little I've heard, they should be called Snoozie and the Banshees (although Sid Vicious was actually their first drummer)! Here is cool band to check out:
A Certain Ratio (ACR)--formely Joy Division's opening band, a cool, sometimes dark, funk/punk outfit.
--0-753073425-1069302348=:69133-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 05:00:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:00:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: <200311200406.hAK46fcw013576@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031120055626.G82884-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and champion A Certain Ratio? Consider your > opinion thoroughly MOOTED! Horribly overrated band, although This Heat borrows heavily from them and they were damned great if you ask me. > Sid Vicious was no better a drummer than he was a bassist. He sucked, Pistols sucked, his feeble solo career sucked, even Gary Oldman sucked while playing him. I still cannot figure out what the big hype is about that guy. b From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 05:09:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (DG) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:09:14 -0800 Subject: [kj] Woo Hoo! References: Message-ID: <007301c3af24$7132e470$11effea9@BRAINSAW> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C3AEE1.62AC4EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Woo Hoo!You know how you can tell when it's bedtime at Jacko's = house? It's when when the big hand is on the little hand. d. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jester=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, 19 November, 2003 09:04 Subject: Re: [kj] Woo Hoo! I heard it was a 12 year old boy this time, for Jacko. Brings to mind = a little quote from an old Arnold movie..."Ass like a 12 year old = boy..."=20 What will Johnny's defense be in this one for Whacko? "If it doest = fit.....use more lube" On 11/19/03 10:36 AM, "Dave Axford" wrote: =20 =20 =20 Court TV reported that it was already issued, last night when = they stormed his house. What a fucking strange individual he is. If he = had only stayed a black man. All these troubles start when he becomes a = white woman. White women are the devil! You just KNOW someone is absolutely, possitively, innocent all of = the time when they have Johnny Cochrane's phone number in the number one = position on the speed dial... =20 =20 Dave KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!=20 OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C3AEE1.62AC4EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Woo Hoo!
You know how you can tell when it's = bedtime at=20 Jacko's house?
 
 
It's when when the big hand is on the = little hand.=20 d.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jester
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November, = 2003=20 09:04
Subject: Re: [kj] Woo = Hoo!

I = heard it was=20 a 12 year old boy this time, for Jacko. Brings to mind a little quote = from an=20 old Arnold movie...=94Ass like a 12 year old boy...=94

What = will Johnny=92s=20 defense be in this one for Whacko? =93If it doest fit.....use more=20 lube=94

On 11/19/03 10:36 AM, "Dave Axford" <daxford@rogers.com>=20 wrote:


 
 

 
Court TV=20 reported that  it was already issued, last night when they = stormed=20 his house. What a fucking  strange individual he is. If he = had only=20 stayed a black man. All these  troubles start when he becomes = a white=20 woman. White women are the  devil!

You = just KNOW=20 someone is absolutely, possitively, innocent all  of = the time=20 when they have Johnny Cochrane's phone number in the number one=20  position on the speed dial...

 
 
Dave



KEEPING THE FIRE=20 ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER, =
JESTER=20
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C3AEE1.62AC4EC0-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 05:10:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (DG) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:10:38 -0800 Subject: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs References: <000d01c3aecc$8dfb1670$90748751@mycomputer> Message-ID: <008501c3af24$a3723440$11effea9@BRAINSAW> I think you can find it on the CBGB web-site. damebo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Bucknall" To: Sent: Wednesday, 19 November, 2003 10:40 Subject: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > anyone know a website where i can get a list of prong gigs? > i need to tie down a date for a gig at CBGB's in 1989 > many thanks in advance > all the best tim > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 05:30:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 05:30:33 +0000 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: <200311192310.hAJNArgt020745@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> References: <200311192310.hAJNArgt020745@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <1069306233.3fbc517940b23@www.boltblue.com> I still regularly listen to Siouxsie & Banshees. I've seen them live several times and never been disappointed though I never saw any "reunion" gig which is a shame if I did miss it. Favourite album is Peep Show with my favourite and one of my top records ever being "Killing Jar". Again like so many records in my collection (I was only explaining this to someone the other day, why KJ's Revelations is my favourite album), it reminds me of a certain time in my life, when I was doing the regular jaunt from Liverpool to London and back on the coach. I had an old (even back then!) Sony walkman - remember them(?), and whatever tapes I could carry. Invariably I had my Siouxsie tape and my KJ tape. "Last Beat of my Heart" still does it for me, as does "Rhapsody". Peep Show was the best they did and of course, worthy of mention is "Face to Face" - great video too. Strange that over the years Siouxsie actually got much more attractive unlike most people... Quoting Alex Smith : > > > The only good thing about being on jury duty this week is that I've been > able to catch up on my reading. Just finished Mark Paytress' "authorised > biography" of Siouxsie & the Banshees. Done inna oral history style > (mainly > comprised of interviews with Severin, Budgie and La Sioux herself), it > charts the bands history from the very beginning to its recent "Seven > Year > Itch" tour last year, and is largely entertaining (if you're a Banshees > fan, > that is). Though they're not cited in the index, there *IS* a mention of > Killing Joke (though not a grand one). Apparently the Banshees played > alongside Killing Joke in 1994 in a bullring, possibly in Italy. Ring > any > bells? > > > Though I thought the reunion show last year was depressing and dire, I'm > still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what the rest of the > Gathering > feels about them. What say you? > > Alex in NYC > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -------------------------------------------------------------- Sent with "Me-Mail", Boltblue's FREE mobile messaging service. http://www.boltblue.com From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 05:35:55 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:35:55 EST Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <1e2.13d351ea.2cedacbb@aol.com> --part1_1e2.13d351ea.2cedacbb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The thing is, NObody in the US has or had ever heard of A Certain Ratio, so if you're into them you are "cool". True, Sid sucked, but his fame was not because of his virtuoso musicianship or creative genius. Of course the Pistols were great--good reunion show in 1996, but I skipped the geriatric reunion this year. Did they pull off that tour in the UK? What was the response? I'm sure the press was brutal. --part1_1e2.13d351ea.2cedacbb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The thing is, NObody in the US has or had ever heard o= f A Certain Ratio, so if you're into them you are "cool". True, Sid sucked,=20= but his fame was not because of his virtuoso musicianship or creative genius= . Of course the Pistols were great--good reunion show in 1996, but I skipped= the geriatric reunion this year. Did they pull off that tour in the UK? Wha= t was the response? I'm sure the press was brutal. --part1_1e2.13d351ea.2cedacbb_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 06:12:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (MIchael) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:12:07 -0800 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ References: <20031120055626.G82884-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <002601c3af2d$3a26db40$5abf9b0c@dragonflke3gr5> Siouxie is still manages to get in my CD player every now and then. Tinderbox was to me, one of my top 10 albums of all time. No filler, just intense aural bliss. MIchael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Krogsgaard" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > > > Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and champion A Certain Ratio? Consider your > > opinion thoroughly MOOTED! > > Horribly overrated band, although This Heat borrows heavily from them and > they were damned great if you ask me. > > > Sid Vicious was no better a drummer than he was a bassist. > > He sucked, Pistols sucked, his feeble solo career sucked, even Gary Oldman > sucked while playing him. I still cannot figure out what the big hype is > about that guy. > > > b > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 06:17:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:17:37 -0900 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ References: <20031120055626.G82884-100000@mother.brap.dk> <002601c3af2d$3a26db40$5abf9b0c@dragonflke3gr5> Message-ID: <00af01c3af2e$001a8400$159e70d1@antifrz> Hi, this is Kara had to write about Souxsie. I am a huge Souxsie fan for years yet have seen only The Creatures. (late 80's?) what a treat to read everyone's thoughts about one of my faves. I like Juju best I think but just listened to Kaleidescope... "give me a skin for dancing in"... and someone put Sin in My Heart in my head today can't get it out. Souxsie and KJ together ok I could die after experiencing that. Kara (of Cliff) www.parallax1.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "MIchael" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ > Siouxie is still manages to get in my CD player every now and then. > Tinderbox was to me, one of my top 10 albums of all time. No filler, just > intense aural bliss. > > MIchael > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bo Krogsgaard" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > > > > > Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and champion A Certain Ratio? Consider your > > > opinion thoroughly MOOTED! > > > > Horribly overrated band, although This Heat borrows heavily from them and > > they were damned great if you ask me. > > > > > Sid Vicious was no better a drummer than he was a bassist. > > > > He sucked, Pistols sucked, his feeble solo career sucked, even Gary Oldman > > sucked while playing him. I still cannot figure out what the big hype is > > about that guy. > > > > > > b > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 08:11:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (jo) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:11:35 -0000 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ References: <200311192310.hAJNArgt020745@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <000901c3af11$e122b980$2a508c0a@Pimpster> Message-ID: <009401c3af3d$ea6ec660$a5ac32d4@ravenscap> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C3AF3D.EA358DF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seaside Festival in Belguim - forget the year. As I recall looking for = my friend's lost contact lens was more entertaining than the Banshees. jo Was that Barcelona? Some festival or other, which Jaz recalls was a = time that the mighty Joke played to 100,000 people or thereabouts? ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C3AF3D.EA358DF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Seaside Festival in Belguim - forget = the=20 year.  As I recall looking for my friend's lost contact lens was = more=20 entertaining than the Banshees.
jo

Was that Barcelona?  Some = festival or other,=20 which Jaz recalls was a time
that the mighty Joke played to 100,000 = people=20 or thereabouts?
------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C3AF3D.EA358DF0-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 08:43:55 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:43:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <20031120084355.3BCDA394A@sitemail.everyone.net> Always liked 'em since I first heard Hong Kong Garden. Ju-Ju is a fantastic album as is Tinderbox. Always thought Siouxsie had a very dodgy voice but Severin's bass sound is sublime. --- "Alex Smith" wrote: The only good thing about being on jury duty this week is that I've been able to catch up on my reading. Just finished Mark Paytress' "authorised biography" of Siouxsie & the Banshees. Done inna oral history style (mainly comprised of interviews with Severin, Budgie and La Sioux herself), it charts the bands history from the very beginning to its recent "Seven Year Itch" tour last year, and is largely entertaining (if you're a Banshees fan, that is). Though they're not cited in the index, there *IS* a mention of Killing Joke (though not a grand one). Apparently the Banshees played alongside Killing Joke in 1994 in a bullring, possibly in Italy. Ring any bells? Though I thought the reunion show last year was depressing and dire, I'm still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what the rest of the Gathering feels about them. What say you? Alex in NYC _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 08:52:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:52:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Bootlegs Message-ID: <20031120085206.ADA32726C@sitemail.everyone.net> Don't worry folks! I haven't the time to do anything at the moment, so they will be there for a wee while yet. --- "wardance" wrote: NOOOO , PLEASE !!!!! I still haven't downloaded them yet !!!.... (But I'm doing it right now !) Just wait 'til tomorrow, please... Thanks ! ;-) Hans Wehrwolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOKERS PUB CAFE" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: [kj] Bootlegs > Hey Rob Moss, > > what about a new Bootleg on your site, I guess everybody has already > downloaded Roskilde and Lanterns of Dope > > > all the best > > > diaz > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 09:18:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Matt) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:18:17 +0100 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: <009401c3af3d$ea6ec660$a5ac32d4@ravenscap> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152168297_17799_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit '85 I was there, Siouxsie was headflining the festival. KJ played during the afternoon. Also March Violets, Front 242, TC Matic, the Sound and many more... Matt - Holland (any Scots around...?!) From: "jo" Reply-To: gathering@misera.net Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:11:35 -0000 To: Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Seaside Festival in Belguim - forget the year. As I recall looking for my friend's lost contact lens was more entertaining than the Banshees. jo Was that Barcelona? Some festival or other, which Jaz recalls was a time that the mighty Joke played to 100,000 people or thereabouts? --MS_Mac_OE_3152168297_17799_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ '85
I was there, Siouxsie was headflining the festival.
KJ played during the afternoon. Also March Violets, Front 242, TC Matic, th= e Sound and many more...
Matt - Holland (any Scots around...?!)



From: "jo" <jo@arcadia.karoo.co.uk>
Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:11:35 -0000
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ


Seaside Festival in Belguim -= forget the year.  As I recall looking for my friend's lost contact len= s was more entertaining than the Banshees.
jo

Was that Barcelona?  Some festival or other, which Jaz recalls was a t= ime
that the mighty Joke played to 100,000 people or thereabouts?


--MS_Mac_OE_3152168297_17799_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 09:14:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Ford Prefect) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:14:42 -0000 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ References: <20031120055626.G82884-100000@mother.brap.dk> <002601c3af2d$3a26db40$5abf9b0c@dragonflke3gr5> <00af01c3af2e$001a8400$159e70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: <000801c3af46$bbeed970$9c8d9151@sn7212787026> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3AF46.BB9324E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From early listenings I would hear the very beginning of Implant and = half expect it to become The Creatures' "Gecko". This tickled me at the = time what with all the lizard references going around.=20 Heard the other day the Creatures have something new on the way. =20 graham ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cliff and Kara Livingston=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Hi, this is Kara had to write about Souxsie. I am a huge Souxsie fan for years yet have = seen only The Creatures. (late 80's?) what a treat to read everyone's thoughts about one of my faves. I like = Juju best I think but just listened to Kaleidescope... "give me a skin for dancing in"... and someone put Sin in My Heart in my head today can't = get it out. Souxsie and KJ together ok I could die after experiencing that. Kara (of Cliff) www.parallax1.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "MIchael" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ > Siouxie is still manages to get in my CD player every now and then. > Tinderbox was to me, one of my top 10 albums of all time. No filler, = just > intense aural bliss. > > MIchael > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Bo Krogsgaard" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > > > > > Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and champion A Certain Ratio? = Consider your > > > opinion thoroughly MOOTED! > > > > Horribly overrated band, although This Heat borrows heavily from = them and > > they were damned great if you ask me. > > > > > Sid Vicious was no better a drummer than he was a bassist. > > > > He sucked, Pistols sucked, his feeble solo career sucked, even = Gary Oldman > > sucked while playing him. I still cannot figure out what the big = hype is > > about that guy. > > > > > > b > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3AF46.BB9324E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From early listenings I = would hear=20 the very beginning of Implant and half expect it to become The = Creatures'=20 "Gecko". This tickled me at the time what with all the lizard references = going=20 around.
Heard the other day the = Creatures=20 have something new on the way.
 
graham
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Cliff = and Kara=20 Livingston
Sent: Thursday, November 20, = 2003 6:17=20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie = & KJ

Hi,
this is Kara
had to write about Souxsie. I am = a huge=20 Souxsie fan for years yet have seen
only The Creatures. (late=20 80's?)
what a treat to read everyone's thoughts about one of my = faves. I=20 like Juju
best I think but just listened to Kaleidescope... "give = me a skin=20 for
dancing in"... and someone put Sin in My Heart in my head today = can't=20 get it
out.
Souxsie and KJ together ok I could die after = experiencing=20 that.
Kara
(of Cliff)
www.parallax1.com



--= ---=20 Original Message -----
From: "MIchael" <michael_garcia@alamedanet.n= et>
To:=20 <gathering@misera.net>
Sent= :=20 Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie = &=20 KJ


> Siouxie is still manages to get in my CD player = every now=20 and then.
> Tinderbox was to me, one of my top 10 albums of all = time. No=20 filler, just
> intense aural bliss.
>
> = MIchael
>=20 ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bo Krogsgaard" <t23@mother.brap.dk>
> = To: <gathering@misera.net>
>= Sent:=20 Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] = Siouxsie &=20 KJ
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Alex = Smith=20 wrote:
> >
> > > Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and = champion A Certain Ratio? Consider
your
> > > opinion=20 thoroughly MOOTED!
> >
> > Horribly overrated band, = although=20 This Heat borrows heavily from them
and
> > they were = damned great=20 if you ask me.
> >
> > > Sid Vicious was no = better a=20 drummer than he was a bassist.
> >
> > He sucked, = Pistols=20 sucked, his feeble solo career sucked, even Gary
Oldman
> = > sucked=20 while playing him. I still cannot figure out what the big hype = is
> >=20 about that guy.
> >
> >
> > b
> = >
>=20 >
> > = _______________________________________________
> >=20 Gathering mailing list
> > Gathering@misera.net
> = > http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>=20 >
>
>
>=20 _______________________________________________
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> Gathering@misera.net
> = http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering


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http://four.= pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3AF46.BB9324E0-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 09:24:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:24:32 +0000 Subject: [kj] Cliff Message-ID: Kara, did the big man go to Oz? cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 11:37:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (peter.west410) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:37:40 -0000 Subject: [kj] (no subject) Message-ID: <000c01c3af5a$b5269d30$09086851@yourby3nr533ht> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3AF5A.B47882E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello how are you, im a regular contributer to the gathering ,which i really enjoy.but at = the moment we are being terrorised by "yingbun international" see for = yourself ,is there anyway of removing and blocking their = advertisments,as we received twenty last night alone please help PW ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3AF5A.B47882E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello how are you,
  im a regular contributer to the = gathering=20 ,which i really enjoy.but at the moment we are being terrorised by = "yingbun=20 international" see for yourself ,is there anyway of removing and = blocking their=20 advertisments,as we received twenty last night alone
please help
  PW
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3AF5A.B47882E0-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 11:49:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:49:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: <200311192310.hAJNArgt020745@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031120114918.54037.qmail@web86111.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1338503287-1069328958=:53300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I saw them in 1992 and it was one of the worst gigs ever. Siouxsie was very disinterested. However, I am a big fan of them. I recently rediscovered 'Switch' on the Nocturne live album and it's as good as anything you'll hear ever. Had a nice discussion about them with Kara also. Great band. At their best when Robert Smith was involved, I'd say. Alex Smith wrote: The only good thing about being on jury duty this week is that I've been able to catch up on my reading. Just finished Mark Paytress' "authorised biography" of Siouxsie & the Banshees. Done inna oral history style (mainly comprised of interviews with Severin, Budgie and La Sioux herself), it charts the bands history from the very beginning to its recent "Seven Year Itch" tour last year, and is largely entertaining (if you're a Banshees fan, that is). Though they're not cited in the index, there *IS* a mention of Killing Joke (though not a grand one). Apparently the Banshees played alongside Killing Joke in 1994 in a bullring, possibly in Italy. Ring any bells? Though I thought the reunion show last year was depressing and dire, I'm still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what the rest of the Gathering feels about them. What say you? Alex in NYC _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1338503287-1069328958=:53300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I saw them in 1992 and it was one of the worst gigs ever.  Siouxsie was very disinterested.
 
However, I am a big fan of them.  I recently rediscovered 'Switch' on the Nocturne live album and it's as good as anything you'll hear ever.
 
Had a nice discussion about them with Kara also.   Great band.
 
At their best when Robert Smith was involved, I'd say.

Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:


The only good thing about being on jury duty this week is that I've been
able to catch up on my reading. Just finished Mark Paytress' "authorised
biography" of Siouxsie & the Banshees. Done inna oral history style (mainly
comprised of interviews with Severin, Budgie and La Sioux herself), it
charts the bands history from the very beginning to its recent "Seven Year
Itch" tour last year, and is largely entertaining (if you're a Banshees fan,
that is). Though they're not cited in the index, there *IS* a mention of
Killing Joke (though not a grand one). Apparently the Banshees played
alongside Killing Joke in 1994 in a bullring, possibly in Italy. Ring any
bells?


Though I thought the reunion show last year was depressing and dire, I'm
still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what the rest of the Gathering
feels about them. What say you?

Alex in NYC
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1338503287-1069328958=:53300-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 11:55:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:55:02 +0000 Subject: [kj] junk spam Message-ID: --============_-1142793189==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hello how are you, We're all fine here, apart from Rob's Arse. im a regular contributer to the gathering ,which i really enjoy.but at the moment we are being terrorised by "yingbun international" see for yourself ,is there anyway of removing and blocking their advertisments,as we received twenty last night alone please help PW You should ignore them Peter and buy your stuff from http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk !! cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142793189==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" junk spam
Hello how are you,
We're all fine here, apart from Rob's Arse.

  im a regular contributer to the gathering ,which i really enjoy.but at the moment we are being terrorised by "yingbun international" see for yourself ,is there anyway of removing and blocking their advertisments,as we received twenty last night alone
please help
  PW
You should ignore them Peter and buy your stuff from http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk !!
cheers,
colesy
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--============_-1142793189==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 12:00:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:00:03 -0000 Subject: [kj] junk spam Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF151@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >You should ignore them Peter and buy your stuff from >http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk !! Spammer !! :o) He speaks the truth though . . . Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coles [SMTP:mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:55 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: [kj] junk spam > > Hello how are you, > We're all fine here, apart from Rob's Arse. > > > im a regular contributer to the gathering ,which i really enjoy.but at > the moment we are being terrorised by "yingbun international" see for > yourself ,is there anyway of removing and blocking their advertisments,as > we received twenty last night alone > please help > PW > You should ignore them Peter and buy your stuff from > http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk !! > cheers, > colesy > -- > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 12:25:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Andreas Misera) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:25:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [kj] astoria sunday setlist Message-ID: hi guys, does anybody have the exact setlist of the london astoria sunday gig? cheers, -a. ******************************************************* Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" ******************************************************* From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 12:27:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (jo) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:27:22 -0000 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ References: Message-ID: <014601c3af61$a8bb94e0$a5ac32d4@ravenscap> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01C3AF61.A5FC26C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJKnew I'd seen you somewhere before:-)) jo '85 I was there, Siouxsie was headflining the festival. KJ played during the afternoon. Also March Violets, Front 242, TC = Matic, the Sound and many more... Matt - Holland (any Scots around...?!) ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01C3AF61.A5FC26C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
Knew I'd seen you somewhere = before:-))
jo
 
'85
I was there, = Siouxsie was=20 headflining the festival.
KJ played during the afternoon. Also = March=20 Violets, Front 242, TC Matic, the Sound and many more...
Matt - = Holland=20 (any Scots around...?!)
------=_NextPart_000_0141_01C3AF61.A5FC26C0-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 12:36:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:36:04 +0100 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <20031120123604.LRSE14977.amsfep15-int.chello.nl@localhost> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=____1069331764308_zNiaNkH=dh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jo, it was YOU! > van: "jo" > datum: 2003/11/20 do PM 01:27:22 CET > aan: > onderwerp: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ > > Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJKnew I'd seen you somewhere before:-)) > jo > > '85 > I was there, Siouxsie was headflining the festival. > KJ played during the afternoon. Also March Violets, Front 242, TC Matic, the Sound and many more... > Matt - Holland (any Scots around...?!) > > ------=____1069331764308_zNiaNkH=dh Content-Type: text/html; name="reply" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="reply" Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
Knew I'd seen you somewhere before:-))
jo
 
'85
I was there, Siouxsie was headflining the festival.
KJ played during the afternoon. Also March Violets, Front 242, TC Matic, the Sound and many more...
Matt - Holland (any Scots around...?!)
------=____1069331764308_zNiaNkH=dh-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 12:50:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (phat seanio) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:50:42 +0000 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID:

A best gig for me was to see siouxsie & the banshees manchester apollo at 7.30-11,then legged it to the hacienda to see KJ,catching 20 minutes of play dead as support-ah,the days of late start gigs,proper pissed and feeling like you've paid for a night out!!!!!!(this was early eighties,82,83-great gigs can mean hazy days.........).

siouxsie still graces our record player-kaleidoscope and ju-ju,pure class..........

sean.


 

 

 


 

>From: "Cliff and Kara Livingston"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To:
>Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:17:37 -0900
>
>Hi,
>this is Kara
>had to write about Souxsie. I am a huge Souxsie fan for years yet have seen
>only The Creatures. (late 80's?)
>what a treat to read everyone's thoughts about one of my faves. I like Juju
>best I think but just listened to Kaleidescope... "give me a skin for
>dancing in"... and someone put Sin in My Heart in my head today can't get it
>out.
>Souxsie and KJ together ok I could die after experiencing that.
>Kara
>(of Cliff)
>www.parallax1.com
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MIchael"
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
>
>
> > Siouxie is still manages to get in my CD player every now and then.
> > Tinderbox was to me, one of my top 10 albums of all time. No filler, just
> > intense aural bliss.
> >
> > MIchael
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bo Krogsgaard"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hahahaa....you slag Siouxsie and champion A Certain Ratio? Consider
>your
> > > > opinion thoroughly MOOTED!
> > >
> > > Horribly overrated band, although This Heat borrows heavily from them
>and
> > > they were damned great if you ask me.
> > >
> > > > Sid Vicious was no better a drummer than he was a bassist.
> > >
> > > He sucked, Pistols sucked, his feeble solo career sucked, even Gary
>Oldman
> > > sucked while playing him. I still cannot figure out what the big hype is
> > > about that guy.
> > >
> > >
> > > b
> > >
> > >
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Get a free connection, half-price modem and one month FREE, when you sign up for BT Broadband today! From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 13:12:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:12:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <200311201312.hAKDCvgt004313@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152160738_48502_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit A Certain Ratio were basically a less celebrated Haircut 100. Want genuine "punk/funk"? Seek ye Gang of Four and/or Mark Stewart's Pop Group. The `Pistols reunion show in 1996 was just as unforgivable as this last tour. Ale xin NYC ---------- From: GregSlawson@aol.com To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Date: Thu, Nov 20, 2003, 12:35 AM The thing is, NObody in the US has or had ever heard of A Certain Ratio, so if you're into them you are "cool". True, Sid sucked, but his fame was not because of his virtuoso musicianship or creative genius. Of course the Pistols were great--good reunion show in 1996, but I skipped the geriatric reunion this year. Did they pull off that tour in the UK? What was the response? I'm sure the press was brutal. --MS_Mac_OE_3152160738_48502_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
A Certain Ratio were basically a less celebrated Haircut 100. Want genuine = "punk/funk"? Seek ye Gang of Four and/or Mark Stewart's Pop Group.=

The `Pistols reunion show in 1996 was just as unforgivable as this last tou= r.

Ale xin NYC




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From: GregSlawson@aol.com
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ
Date: Thu, Nov 20, 2003, 12:35 AM


The thing is, NObody in the US has or had ever h= eard of A Certain Ratio, so if you're into them you are "cool". Tr= ue, Sid sucked, but his fame was not because of his virtuoso musicianship or= creative genius. Of course the Pistols were great--good reunion show in 199= 6, but I skipped the geriatric reunion this year. Did they pull off that tou= r in the UK? What was the response? I'm sure the press was brutal.
--MS_Mac_OE_3152160738_48502_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 13:20:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:20:47 -0500 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <2D521D2F.18C08424.398839F0@aol.com> I remember, as a college radio dj in the early 80s, the TC Matic album (one good song on it). They were a TOTAL copy of KJ (which is not necessarily a bad thing...) From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 13:22:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:22:36 EST Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <20.1ccc37d0.2cee1a1c@aol.com> I'm Scot's, Now fuck off, this is a day of mourning. Lyle (very pissed off & depressed Scotsman) From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 13:27:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:27:10 -0500 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <6F887BB9.06984DAF.398839F0@aol.com> You're thinking of LATE ACR, but their earlier 12" 45s and 1st two albums were weird and wonderful. They were nowhere near as lame as Haircut. Also, the Pistols did sound great in 96, even if the whole idea of touring was unforgivable. Finally, I agree that (early) GOF and Pop Group are great! From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 13:31:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:31:01 +0100 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <20031120133101.NAMZ14977.amsfep15-int.chello.nl@localhost> So was I last Sunday... Cheer up, at least you guys have MOUNTAINS! Matt > > van: MADELYLE@aol.com > datum: 2003/11/20 do PM 02:22:36 CET > aan: gathering@misera.net > onderwerp: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ > > I'm Scot's, > Now fuck off, this is a day of mourning. > > Lyle > (very pissed off & depressed Scotsman) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 13:36:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:36:01 -0500 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID: <200311201335.hAKDZscw004805@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> I've never heard a solitary note by A Certain Ratio that really did anything for me (probably in much the same manner you've been unmoved by the Banshees). I'd encourage you to listen to THE SCREAM and/or JOIN HANDS before you write them off, however. Gang of Four, to me, were flawless. Even their dubious albums (HARD, MALL, SHRINKWRAPPED) are fine by me. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: GregSlawson@aol.com >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ >Date: Thu, Nov 20, 2003, 8:27 AM > >You're thinking of LATE ACR, but their earlier 12" 45s and 1st two albums >were weird and wonderful. They were nowhere near as lame as Haircut. Also, >the Pistols did sound great in 96, even if the whole idea of touring was >unforgivable. Finally, I agree that (early) GOF and Pop Group are great! >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 17:04:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Will E Scheipers) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:04:21 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <20031120.090421.648.1.Wscheip1@juno.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_4c0d.3779.2cf4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Use the old line "Well if they arrested him he MUST have done SOMETHING." Gets you out every time. From, Will On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:40 -0500 "Alex Smith" writes: I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, Gatheruzzz.... Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the official round of voir dire. This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked? Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? - Alex in NYC ----__JNP_000_4c0d.3779.2cf4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help!
Use the old line "Well if they arrested him he MUST have done = SOMETHING."=20
 
Gets you out every time.
 
From,
Will
 
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:40 -0500 "Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net>=20 writes:


I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so = have=20 at it, Gatheruzzz....

Alright. So, the tentacles of the system = tapped=20 my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday.= A=20 huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself = off=20 of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that = my=20 then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in= .=20 Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that they = expect=20 will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty=20 lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with = being=20 able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel= =20 raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us into a= =20 small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we = might=20 have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser=20 extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work to= =20 cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and = scowly=20 (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to = come=20 back on Thursday for the official round of voir=20 dire.

       This doesn't mean = I'm=20 definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that,=20 NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to= have=20 my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my = department=20 to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is = very=20 much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my= =20 favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and=20 potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court"= =20 trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?=20

       Should I dust off my = most=20 offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a = criminally=20 misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big= =20 yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

- Alex in NYC

 
----__JNP_000_4c0d.3779.2cf4-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 14:43:55 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Marcos=20Santiago?=) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:43:55 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie fan????? In-Reply-To: <200311192310.hAJNArgt020745@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031120144355.70404.qmail@web41611.mail.yahoo.com> siouxsie fan??? yesssssssssss of course.. i love siouxsie too ......but i prefer cocteau twins 1000 millions times...... KJ and cocteau tiwns kick ass forever... cheers...Maurice in venezuela --- Alex Smith escribió: > > > The only good thing about being on jury duty this > week is that I've been > able to catch up on my reading. Just finished Mark > Paytress' "authorised > biography" of Siouxsie & the Banshees. Done inna > oral history style (mainly > comprised of interviews with Severin, Budgie and La > Sioux herself), it > charts the bands history from the very beginning to > its recent "Seven Year > Itch" tour last year, and is largely entertaining > (if you're a Banshees fan, > that is). Though they're not cited in the index, > there *IS* a mention of > Killing Joke (though not a grand one). Apparently > the Banshees played > alongside Killing Joke in 1994 in a bullring, > possibly in Italy. Ring any > bells? > > > Though I thought the reunion show last year was > depressing and dire, I'm > still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what > the rest of the Gathering > feels about them. What say you? > > Alex in NYC > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 15:01:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:01:33 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: [kj] junk spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I got more than 200(!) spams overnight. New record. --Mark On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, mike coles wrote: > Hello how are you, > We're all fine here, apart from Rob's Arse. > > im a regular contributer to the gathering ,which i really enjoy.but > at the moment we are being terrorised by "yingbun international" see > for yourself ,is there anyway of removing and blocking their > advertisments,as we received twenty last night alone > please help > PW > You should ignore them Peter and buy your stuff from > http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk !! > cheers, > colesy > -- > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 15:19:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:19:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: There is also a Dickies t-shirt (the band not the clothing company) that has Mickey Mouse with a Hitler moustache and a swastika behind him. Somewhat subtle (you may not notice at first glance) but obviuosly offensive and also it brings up the point that Walter Disney was (supposedly) a nazi sympathiser. Good luck. I have jury duty beginning of December. Which stinks also because I have been called three times prior within the same year. Maybe I'll wear my Destroy t-shirt "burn this racist system down" shirt complete witha crusty haired anarchist burning down the white house with a molitav cocktail. Chris >From: "Alex Smith" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! >Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:19:33 -0500 > > > At the moment, possible elements of the plan are as follows: > >(1) get my boss to draft a letter explaining what a hinderance it would be >to lose my services for the two month stretch. On TIME letterhead, of >course. > >(2) Being adamant, obstinate and emphatic about my wife's pregnancy (this >does not involve lying whatsoever). I am a million times more concerned >about the health and well-being of my wife and unborn child than I ever >will >be about this case. That said, I will be utterly distacted, possibly >disruptive and almost certainly non-compliant just within the boundries of >the law. > >(3) Be very vocal about my concerns. > >(4) Shave currently thugish display of facial hair into disquieting Hitler >mustach and possibly wear my "One Night Only from the Hate-Fuck Capital >City, PUSSY GALORE!" t-shirt (I'd wear one of my innumerable Cop Shoot Cop >shirts, but that might be a bit too foolhardy in a federal courthouse.) > >Seriously, I'm going to be totally fucked (in a not nice way) if I don't >escape this. Someone suggested just being honest, but being honest also >means explaining to them that I will be completely useless to them as a >juror, as I will be entirely distracted during the proceedings of the case. >Moreover, it will also be impossible for me to be objective, impartial and >fair as a juror, as I am already DEEPLY RESENTFUL and EXCEPTIONALLY BITTER >in regards to BOTH the prosecution and the defense for not allowing the >FACT >that my wife is pregnant excuse me from serving on this case (once again, >the health and well-being of my wife and unborn child matter more to me >than >the any particulars of the case). That they failed to consider that has >only >increased my inability to react to them with anything other than abject >disdain and hostitlity. > >The letter from TIME is a flawed concept, but I may use it just to have >another arrow in my quiver. Like someone mentioned above, it's going to >sound wholly devoid of merit that the media giant that is TIME-Warner >cannot >find another employee to fill my shoes while I'm serving on the jury. That >said, my department is not just a gaggle of cogs. A new person would have >to >be trained, and that takes time. Moreover, this is also the busiest time of >year for the magazine (and I'm sure the busiest time of year for >everybody), >with the "Person of the Year" double-issue looming. > >The tasteless t-shirt idea sounds entirely juvenile, I know, but why not? I >really don't give a tinker's cuss if I offend any of them. At this stage of >the game, this is about self-preservation. Moreover, lest any of you think >I'm shirking my responsibilities as a citizen, I would be happy to be >tossed >back into the jury pool to wait for another (ideally more conventional) >case. I just cannot sit on a jury that expects to last no shorter than two >months. If that means wearing an offensive t-shirt, fuckin' so be it. > >Alex in NYC > > > >---------- >From: Jester >To: >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! >Date: Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 11:03 AM > > >Well, I have always said I would never have a jury trial, if I was ever in >trouble, because jurors are 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty. > >That said, how far over the top are you willing to go. > >Next, who are the particulars in the case? > >I got excused from a case involving a black man that was run over during a >resisting arrest, by the arresting officer. The black guy was filing a law >suit against the cop that hit him with the car. When asked about my >feelings >on the case, I said I think he should have killed the fucker. What if that >ass hole had come across my girl friend or mom? You dont run from the cops >and expect to get away with it, dumb ass. The officer should take him out >back and run him over again, to get the point across, better The point is >to >become so offensive to ONE side, they refuse to have you, due to the fact >you refuse to change your mind on the case. Also feel free to use racial >slurs. They also do wonders in getting you out of jury duty. Remember, >racism is not against the law, per say, but they sure as hell dont want you >on a jury. Boils down to how far your willing to go to get off the case. >But >to help you out, you need to tell me a small amount of what the case is >about....then I can get you out of it...hahaha > >On 11/19/03 9:47 AM, "Alex Smith" wrote: > > > >I posted this on ILM, but I'm in need of brainstorming, so have at it, >Gatheruzzz.... > >Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and >I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure >everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire >yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board >(on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I >was called into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as >long >as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked >if >anyone believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this >amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, >myself included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front >of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I >explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would >be highly inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for such a >long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing >Joke >t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for >the >official round of voir dire. > > This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but I >really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS >JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining what a >hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for such a >potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm >somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of >threatening >to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (which >might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to make >sure I don't get picked? > > Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain >that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and >walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO? > >- Alex in NYC > > > > >KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! >OCCISIO LOCATIO > >THE WEBMASTER, >JESTER >WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM >WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 15:49:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christof hamille) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:49:05 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT help from either UK or Australian Gatherers Message-ID: Hello one and all over the pond. I am desperatley looking for a copy of a movie "Dogs in Space" (starring a younger Michael Hutchense) for my wife. It is one her favorite movies and one copy we had is missing and the other one is barely watchable. The only copies I am able to find are bootlegs. Was there a legit DVD release? If so would someone be willing to send me a copy? I will of course pay for it and for your trouble. I know the regions are different but we are going to get a DVD that plays region 1 and 2 anyway. Thanks either way Chris _________________________________________________________________ Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are always singing on MSN Radio Plus. Try one month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 15:50:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Andreas Misera) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:50:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [kj] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000c01c3af5a$b5269d30$09086851@yourby3nr533ht> Message-ID: hiya, do you mean the message board or the mailing list? on the message board i can't really do much besides delete the spam postings (which i will do). cheers, -a. On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, peter.west410 wrote: > Hello how are you, > im a regular contributer to the gathering ,which i really enjoy.but at the moment we are being terrorised by "yingbun international" see for yourself ,is there anyway of removing and blocking their advertisments,as we received twenty last night alone > please help > PW > ******************************************************* Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" ******************************************************* From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 16:18:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Simone Wagner) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:18:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] (no subject) - spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031120161810.20811.qmail@web41205.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Andreas Misera, > on the message board i > can't really do much besides delete the spam > postings (which i will do). he means the message board (which we all really enjoy). Thanks a lot! Simone --- Andreas Misera wrote: > hiya, > > do you mean the message board or the mailing list? > on the message board i > can't really do much besides delete the spam > postings (which i will do). > > cheers, > -a. > > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, peter.west410 wrote: > > > Hello how are you, > > im a regular contributer to the gathering ,which > i really enjoy.but at the moment we are being > terrorised by "yingbun international" see for > yourself ,is there anyway of removing and blocking > their advertisments,as we received twenty last night > alone > > please help > > PW > > > > ******************************************************* > Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net > ****............... > ................"are you constant to the old > covenant?" > ******************************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 16:16:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:16:31 -0900 Subject: [kj] Cliff References: Message-ID: <00be01c3af81$a9fd5620$159e70d1@antifrz> Yes, he is in Australia with the band still. Will be back soon, says it's about 80 degrees there. It's -3 here in alaska. love to all, kara ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike coles" To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:24 AM Subject: [kj] Cliff > Kara, did the big man go to Oz? > cheers, > colesy > -- > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 17:54:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:54:24 -0600 Subject: [kj] Cliff In-Reply-To: <00be01c3af81$a9fd5620$159e70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: Did I see that right??? Minus three degrees Fahrenheit? HOLY FUCKING HELL!!!!!! That is god damned cold, for just mid November! Forget honour the fire, fucking just light the fire....where did the sun go? On 11/20/03 10:16 AM, "Cliff and Kara Livingston" wrote: > Yes, he is in Australia with the band still. Will be back soon, says it's > about 80 degrees there. It's -3 here in alaska. > love to all, > kara > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 18:03:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:03:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs References: <000d01c3aecc$8dfb1670$90748751@mycomputer> <008501c3af24$a3723440$11effea9@BRAINSAW> Message-ID: <009101c3af90$aaa18790$a3968351@mycomputer> thanks mate cheers tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "DG" To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > I think you can find it on the CBGB web-site. damebo. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bucknall" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, 19 November, 2003 10:40 > Subject: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > > > > anyone know a website where i can get a list of prong gigs? > > i need to tie down a date for a gig at CBGB's in 1989 > > many thanks in advance > > all the best tim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 19:19:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Brian Whitehead) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:19:15 -0000 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ References: <20031120051134.W81279-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <00bf01c3af9b$43b6a1e0$f6207ad5@EmmaJane> >>Creatures show Coming to a venue near you very soon if rumours are to be beleived. In support of there new CD called HA!. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Krogsgaard" To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > > > Though I thought the reunion show last year was depressing and dire, I'm > > still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what the rest of the Gathering > > feels about them. What say you? > > I would rather see another Creatures show than a Banshees reunion. They > were damned good when i saw them at Roskilde in 1998. > > > b > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 19:28:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Brian Whitehead) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:28:17 -0000 Subject: [kj] O/T Bye Bye Mr Collins Message-ID: <012f01c3af9c$73ccb3a0$f6207ad5@EmmaJane> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012C_01C3AF9C.7306CB90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Phil Collins - on sale 9am Friday 21 November "Final Farewell Tour" - Manchester Arena in June http://www.wayahead.com/?a=3Dphil+col Final Farewell - Oh please let it be true ------=_NextPart_000_012C_01C3AF9C.7306CB90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_012C_01C3AF9C.7306CB90-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 20:04:26 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:04:26 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: IM or chat client question In-Reply-To: <012f01c3af9c$73ccb3a0$f6207ad5@EmmaJane> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152181866_230301 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am looking for a local network IM client, that is for internal network only, and cross platform (Win / Mac OS X). I thought that Rendezvous and Howl would be it, but.....nope. Anyone know of any client out there that would work on an interoffice type setting only (Only the IP stack set by the router of 192.168.2.XXX would be able to log onto it) please let me know. Thank ya... KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM --B_3152181866_230301 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable OT: IM or chat client question I am looking for a loca= l network IM client, that is for internal network only, and cross platform (= Win / Mac OS X). I thought that Rendezvous and Howl would be it, but.....nop= e. Anyone know of any client out there that would work on an interoffice typ= e setting only (Only the IP stack set by the router of 192.168.2.XXX would b= e able to log onto it) please let me know.


Thank ya...


KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
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--B_3152181866_230301-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 20:46:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:46:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: <20031120114918.54037.qmail@web86111.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031120204627.91186.qmail@web20211.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all, Crawling out of the woodwork to chime in for a sec. I Love the Banshees. Siouxsie too for that matter! Budgie and Big Paul are two of my biggest Drumming influences. I loves me some Jungle Disco! I've seen them several times throughout the years including the comeback tour which was the only time that I've every been let down in the least by them. My favorite era has to be everything up to around the Tinderbox era. Mainly due to the fact that I was immersing myself in a different type of music at that point. I still went to see them play every chance I got after that though. Never have managed to see the Creatures yet somehow. I certainly plan on breaking that nasty habit if they make it stateside touring the new album. > At their best when Robert Smith was involved, I'd > say. I loved him on Nocturne. I really enjoyed the Guitar work on Hyaena, but I think that album suffers (production geek warning!) from eventually getting entirely engulfed into a dark, sludgy, morass of reverb. R. Smith's songwriting influence is certainly unmistakable on that Album. One of my favorite moments of that period is when Smith is tuning down to play a certain song (Happy House I think) Siouxsie snaps something to the effect of "Can't you get Al to tune that quicker?!?" I remember hearing that that version of the band disintegrated due to Smith and Sioux not getting on too well! ;) Back into my dark corner for now.... Good to see you all again! A L P ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 20:53:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:53:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: <20031120204627.91186.qmail@web20211.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031120205343.26224.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com> Oops! Forgot to mention that John McGeoch was my favorite Banshees Guitarist. His work on Ju Ju is amazing! It's too bad that his later work in PiL didn't reflect much of that genius, or that band could've recaptured some of what they lost after Keith Levine split. A L P --- Djehuti111 wrote: > Greetings all, > > Crawling out of the woodwork to chime in for a sec. > > I Love the Banshees. > Siouxsie too for that matter! > > Budgie and Big Paul are two of my biggest Drumming > influences. > I loves me some Jungle Disco! > > I've seen them several times throughout the years > including the comeback tour which was the only time > that I've every been let down in the least by them. > > My favorite era has to be everything up to around > the > Tinderbox era. Mainly due to the fact that I was > immersing myself in a different type of music at > that > point. > I still went to see them play every chance I got > after that though. > > Never have managed to see the Creatures yet > somehow. > I certainly plan on breaking that nasty habit if > they > make it stateside touring the new album. > > > At their best when Robert Smith was involved, I'd > > say. > > I loved him on Nocturne. > I really enjoyed the Guitar work on Hyaena, but I > think that album suffers (production geek warning!) > from eventually getting entirely engulfed into a > dark, > sludgy, morass of reverb. > R. Smith's songwriting influence is certainly > unmistakable on that Album. > > One of my favorite moments of that period is when > Smith is tuning down to play a certain song (Happy > House I think) Siouxsie snaps something to the > effect > of "Can't you get Al to tune that quicker?!?" > > I remember hearing that that version of the band > disintegrated due to Smith and Sioux not getting on > too well! ;) > > Back into my dark corner for now.... > Good to see you all again! > > A L P > > > > ===== > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The > darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the > silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, > studded with secretive and significant stars, formed > a > stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of > the ceremony." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 20:58:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:58:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: <20031120204627.91186.qmail@web20211.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031120205856.82151.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com> Damn! I'm going to have to post more often. I seem to be out of practice in communicating with the humans again! --- Djehuti111 wrote: > One of my favorite moments of that period is when > Smith is tuning down to play a certain song (Happy > House I think) Siouxsie snaps something to the > effect > of "Can't you get Al to tune that quicker?!?" You can hear this snippet for yourselves on "Nocturne" BTW. A L P ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 21:34:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:34:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031120213446.20397.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> I sympatighs completely, up there, living IS a ton of work. I lived in Edmonton, Alberta, for a year (Jan-Jan), and i left L.A. at a comfy 80*, boots, jeans and a tank-top, and landed in Gretzky country at -35*F and 3 feet of snow outside the terminal. With wind chill it was all of -43* at worst. When the temp hit ab. +50*F(Mar/Apr), my neighbors would come home from the Univ and sunbathe in bikinis (Temps apprx, 'cause Canada uses Celsius). By the way, Cliff was on/backstage at the L.A. show. Saul --- Jester wrote: > that right??? Minus three degrees Fahrenheit? HOLY > FUCKING ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 21:53:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:53:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT -- Bush/UK top 10, and dream set Message-ID: <20031120215346.1177.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> Top (six of)Ten George W. Bush Complaints About England 10. "Clocks are five hours fast" 9. "Everybody's speaking some crazy foreign language" 8. ..... 7. "So touchy about minor things...like going to war under false pretenses" 6. "They don't know where Saddam is either" 5. .... 4. .... 3. "Pack a gum costs 2 pounds -- who carries two pounds of money?!" 2. ..... 1. "Driving on the left reminds me of my drinking days" --God save the Queen-- and if kj return, then, this is my list for Santa to bring me Dear Santa, I kj set(90min.) list please, to include, Extremities (sans Pink Floyd solo) Tension Pssycke The Death and Resurrection Show (sans icecubes, pls) The House that Pain built Democracy Age of Greed Beautiful Dead Exorcism Exit Follow the Leaders Mathematics of Chaos Whiteout ......... Pandaemonium Implant Asteroid, but if you can get them to play a half hour more, that would be swell. and I promise not to drink so much 'anymore'. saul, yes i got a Jury summons also, 2 days ago. It must be a Gathering thing, they must have the sub-list. ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 21:32:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:32:22 EST Subject: [kj] Bootlegs Message-ID: <6a.385bb6af.2cee8ce6@aol.com> --part1_6a.385bb6af.2cee8ce6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry mate, Playing catch up!! Where's the website? Cheers, Colin. --part1_6a.385bb6af.2cee8ce6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry mate,

Playing catch up!!

Where's the website?

Cheers,

Colin. --part1_6a.385bb6af.2cee8ce6_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 22:44:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:44:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] XLd Sydney Message-ID: <20031120224401.69152.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> Any word as to why Sydney was cancelled(XLd)? The "official" site doesn't say. Was there icecubes involved? saul ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 00:04:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:04:01 -0600 Subject: [kj] XLd Sydney In-Reply-To: <20031120224401.69152.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ted was not there yet. He was delayed a bit....No drummer, no Joke. On 11/20/03 4:44 PM, "sade1" wrote: > Any word as to why Sydney was cancelled(XLd)? > The "official" site doesn't say. > Was there icecubes involved? > > saul > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 23:40:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:40:47 EST Subject: [kj] (no subject) Message-ID: <1d9.14c83163.2ceeaaff@aol.com> --part1_1d9.14c83163.2ceeaaff_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also love the banshees as budgie was a big influence to me as were KJ being a drummer myself. My favourite banshees song would have to be israel cheers Steve in bucks --part1_1d9.14c83163.2ceeaaff_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also love the banshees as budgie was a big infl= uence to me as were KJ being a drummer myself.
My favourite banshees song would have to be
israel
cheers Steve in bucks --part1_1d9.14c83163.2ceeaaff_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 07:29:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:29:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] Neon Hearts and 1919 In-Reply-To: <200311201312.hAKDCvgt004313@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> from "Alex Smith" at Nov 20, 2003 08:12:18 AM Message-ID: <200311210729.hAL7TGFD014541@basil.jkm.net> A friend of mine claims the band 1919 is much like KJ -- I don't know of them, so thought I would ask you lot. He also likes Neon Hearts, and wonders what you think of them. He is a *Canadian* fan of A Certain Ratio. ;-) Yanks and Canadians are *not* equivalent ;-) Thanks, Amy From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 10:50:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:50:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Neon Hearts and 1919 In-Reply-To: <200311210729.hAL7TGFD014541@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: <20031121114826.U43767-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > A friend of mine claims the band 1919 is much like KJ -- I don't know > of them, so thought I would ask you lot. He also likes Neon Hearts, > and wonders what you think of them. Half their songs indeed sound so close to Killing Joke that if i didn't know better, i would think it was a missing album from around the Fire Dances era. They aren't THAT good but not really bad either. Never heard Neon Hearts. b From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 11:36:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jari Pakarinen) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:36:23 +0200 Subject: [kj] Neon Hearts and 1919 Message-ID: <45c14c45edde.45edde45c14c@utu.fi> Anyone got 1919 as MP3's ? Jari ----- Original Message ----- From: Bo Krogsgaard Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:50 pm Subject: Re: [kj] Neon Hearts and 1919 > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > > A friend of mine claims the band 1919 is much like KJ -- I don't > know> of them, so thought I would ask you lot. He also likes Neon > Hearts,> and wonders what you think of them. > > Half their songs indeed sound so close to Killing Joke that if i > didn'tknow better, i would think it was a missing album from > around the Fire > Dances era. They aren't THAT good but not really bad either. > > Never heard Neon Hearts. > > > b > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 13:34:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:34:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] junk spam Message-ID: <20031121133445.75FF7CF33@sitemail.everyone.net> or Spunk Jam --- Phillipps Marc wrote: >You should ignore them Peter and buy your stuff from >http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk !! Spammer !! :o) He speaks the truth though . . . Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coles [SMTP:mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:55 AM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: [kj] junk spam > > Hello how are you, > We're all fine here, apart from Rob's Arse. > > > im a regular contributer to the gathering ,which i really enjoy.but at > the moment we are being terrorised by "yingbun international" see for > yourself ,is there anyway of removing and blocking their advertisments,as > we received twenty last night alone > please help > PW > You should ignore them Peter and buy your stuff from > http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk !! > cheers, > colesy > -- > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 13:45:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:45:12 -0000 Subject: [kj] junk spam Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF15D@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >or Spunk Jam Rob's favourite breakfast treat . . . :op > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob's Arse [SMTP:joker@Z6.com] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:35 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: RE: [kj] junk spam > > > or Spunk Jam > > > > --- Phillipps Marc wrote: > > >You should ignore them Peter and buy your stuff from > >http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk !! > > Spammer !! :o) > > He speaks the truth though . . . > > Marc. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mike coles [SMTP:mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk] > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:55 AM > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Subject: [kj] junk spam > > > > Hello how are you, > > We're all fine here, apart from Rob's Arse. > > > > > > im a regular contributer to the gathering ,which i really enjoy.but > at > > the moment we are being terrorised by "yingbun international" see for > > yourself ,is there anyway of removing and blocking their > advertisments,as > > we received twenty last night alone > > please help > > PW > > You should ignore them Peter and buy your stuff from > > http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk !! > > cheers, > > colesy > > -- > > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk > > > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > legally > privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If > you > are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of > distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information > within > is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this > communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and > destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any > liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This > communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet > Enfield > & Haringey Health Communities. > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 13:47:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:47:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Bootlegs Message-ID: <20031121134706.1A11D7255@sitemail.everyone.net> www.robmoss.nildram.co.uk --- ColinSelby@aol.com wrote: Sorry mate, Playing catch up!! Where's the website? Cheers, Colin. _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 13:47:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (phat seanio) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:47:16 +0000 Subject: [kj] drum bums! Message-ID:

I'm wondering if anyone can shed any light on a point that's bugging me-    I notice theres not much love lost for martin atkins on joke fronts(I got booted off a yahoo group for defending someones right to like his past work!),and I've noticed it here too-What I'm trying to suss is,I read that paul ferguson lost his spot in the band  for punching jaz's missus in the face-just trying to work out-to me ,a bloke punching a woman in the face,might be a tad worse and unforgivable,than a bloke who mixes his drums right up front..........

hope I've got the story right-or in a way I hope I hav'nt.........

sean


Its best to remain quiet and appear stupid,

than open your mouth and remove all doubt..........

n.p-----

 

 


 


If you're fed up with spam in your inbox sign for MSN 8 with it's intelligent junk e-mail filters. From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 14:23:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bill Meissner) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:23:39 -0800 Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT Message-ID: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D602026020@encore02.libertylivewire.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B03B.0EE0D300 Content-Type: text/plain Hello all, A few days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band called ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing Joke(ala Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting is that the recordings that make up the cassette only release called"Med Lov Skal Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or download) came out in 1983.You know when you are listening to a band you have never heard before and you hear a obvious influence from another band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does not sound like it came from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got the feeling that I stumbled upon a band that was doing a similar music style at the same time(that is possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so this opinion is based on the music alone. I would like to get your opinions on this and if anyone out there has any info or a short bio about this band,share you're knowledge with me please-I could not find hardly anything on the web about this band either.I posted a message similar to this a few days ago but only got 1 reply(from "flew") so if ya got time check it out.And the the main page for the web link to the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource for music(streaming but most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I did the ANGOR WAT stuff). Here's the link: http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=f &f=%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge Enjoy, Bill ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B03B.0EE0D300 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

         = ;   Hello all,

     A few days ago I posted a = message concerning a Norwegian band called ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a = stripped down Killing Joke(ala Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting is that the recordings that make up the cassette only = release called"Med Lov Skal Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or download) came out in 1983.You know when you are listening to = a band you have never heard before and you hear a obvious influence from another = band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does not sound = like it came from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got the feeling that I = stumbled upon a band that was doing a similar music style at the same time(that is = possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so this opinion is based on the music = alone.

   I would like to get your opinions = on this and if anyone out there has any info or a short bio about this band,share = you're knowledge with me please-I could not find hardly anything on the web = about this band either.I posted a message similar to this a few days ago but only = got 1 reply(from "flew") so if ya got time check it out.And the the main page for the web link to the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource for = music(streaming but most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I did the ANGOR WAT = stuff).

         = ;            = ;         Here's the link:     =             =             =          http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=3Df&a= mp;f=3D%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge

=

 

         = ;            Enjoy,   Bill =             =             =             =             =       

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B03B.0EE0D300-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 14:36:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (death wish) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:36:19 +0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke tru Sony - vinyl? Message-ID: Has there been any vinyl release of the new album anywhere? I would guess Germany, but I've not heard anything. T. >From: "JOKERS PUB CAFE" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: >Subject: [kj] Killing Joke tru Sony >Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:07:20 -0200 > >"Sony Brasil" has released the new album in Brasil, maybe now there's a >chance for a tour next year, hope the sales go well, I've also seen Loose >Cannon and Seeing Red clips on MTV. > > >diaz > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 15:03:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Simon Lee) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:03:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT Message-ID: <7960257.1069427005477.JavaMail.root@bushtv-java-2.server.telinco.net> ------=_Part_150_5665915.1069427005475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mmm...sounds worth checking out. I visited the site and am now curious to learn more about some other combos too, e.g. Anal Babes Fuck ups Boy Kicks Girl Haggis Gluecifer Screeching Weasel Titmen Spermbirds There's a whole world out there! Si > -----Original Message----- > From: bmeissner@encorehollywood.com (Bill Meissner) > Sent: Fri Nov 21 14:23:39 GMT 2003 > To: gathering@misera.net ('gathering@misera.net') > Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT > > Hello all, > > A few days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band called > ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing Joke(ala > Firedances) that it's scary. > > Here's the link: > http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=f > and+bygge> &f=%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge > > > > Enjoy, Bill > > > ------=_Part_150_5665915.1069427005475 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Return-path: Envelope-to: slee@bushtv-3-internal.mail.telinco.net Delivery-date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:24:29 +0000 Received: from bushtv-1-internal.mail.telinco.net ([192.168.8.182] helo=bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net) by bushtv-3.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1ANCCz-000IWB-00 for slee@bushtv-3-internal.mail.telinco.net; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:24:29 +0000 Received: from [216.92.1.120] (helo=four.pairlist.net) by bushtv-1.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #7) id 1ANCCx-000CH1-00; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:24:27 +0000 Received: from four.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF64DBD5; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:24:21 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: gathering@four.pairlist.net Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by four.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A6A48DAEF for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 78180 invoked by uid 7122); 21 Nov 2003 14:23:42 -0000 Delivered-To: misera-misera:net-gathering@misera.net Received: (qmail 78177 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2003 14:23:42 -0000 Received: from mx-west.ascentmedia.com (12.107.13.23) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2003 14:23:42 -0000 Received: from imc01.ascentmedia.com ([10.32.0.24]) by mx-west.ascentmedia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:23:41 -0800 Received: by outlook.ascentmedia.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:23:41 -0800 Message-ID: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D602026020@encore02.libertylivewire.com> From: Bill Meissner To: "'gathering@misera.net'" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3B03B.0EE0D300" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2003 14:23:41.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[102DEC70:01C3B03B] Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT Sender: gathering-admin@misera.net Errors-To: gathering-admin@misera.net X-BeenThere: gathering@misera.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gathering@misera.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:23:39 -0800 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B03B.0EE0D300 Content-Type: text/plain Hello all, A few days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band called ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing Joke(ala Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting is that the recordings that make up the cassette only release called"Med Lov Skal Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or download) came out in 1983.You know when you are listening to a band you have never heard before and you hear a obvious influence from another band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does not sound like it came from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got the feeling that I stumbled upon a band that was doing a similar music style at the same time(that is possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so this opinion is based on the music alone. I would like to get your opinions on this and if anyone out there has any info or a short bio about this band,share you're knowledge with me please-I could not find hardly anything on the web about this band either.I posted a message similar to this a few days ago but only got 1 reply(from "flew") so if ya got time check it out.And the the main page for the web link to the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource for music(streaming but most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I did the ANGOR WAT stuff). Here's the link: http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=f &f=%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge Enjoy, Bill ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B03B.0EE0D300 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

         = ;   Hello all,

     A few days ago I posted a = message concerning a Norwegian band called ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a = stripped down Killing Joke(ala Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting is that the recordings that make up the cassette only = release called"Med Lov Skal Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or download) came out in 1983.You know when you are listening to = a band you have never heard before and you hear a obvious influence from another = band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does not sound = like it came from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got the feeling that I = stumbled upon a band that was doing a similar music style at the same time(that is = possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so this opinion is based on the music = alone.

   I would like to get your opinions = on this and if anyone out there has any info or a short bio about this band,share = you're knowledge with me please-I could not find hardly anything on the web = about this band either.I posted a message similar to this a few days ago but only = got 1 reply(from "flew") so if ya got time check it out.And the the main page for the web link to the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource for = music(streaming but most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I did the ANGOR WAT = stuff).

         = ;            = ;         Here's the link:     =             =             =          http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=3Df&a= mp;f=3D%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge

=

 

         = ;            Enjoy,   Bill =             =             =             =             =       

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B03B.0EE0D300-- _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_Part_150_5665915.1069427005475-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 15:23:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:23:13 -0000 Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF15F@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Screeching Weasel Now there's a band who's name just asks you to listen to them . . Even if they sound like a drum kit being kicked down a fire escape by drunken tramps the name justifies there whole existence :o) Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Lee [SMTP:slee@bushinternet.com] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:03 PM > To: gathering@misera.net; 'gathering@misera.net' > Subject: Re: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT > > Mmm...sounds worth checking out. I visited the site and am now curious to > learn more about some other combos too, e.g. > > Anal Babes > Fuck ups > Boy Kicks Girl > Haggis > Gluecifer > Screeching Weasel > Titmen > Spermbirds > > There's a whole world out there! > > Si > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bmeissner@encorehollywood.com (Bill Meissner) > > Sent: Fri Nov 21 14:23:39 GMT 2003 > > To: gathering@misera.net ('gathering@misera.net') > > Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT > > > > Hello all, > > > > A few days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band > called > > ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing Joke(ala > > Firedances) that it's scary. > > > > Here's the link: > > http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=f > > > +l > > and+bygge> &f=%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge > > > > > > > > Enjoy, Bill > > > > > > << Message: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT >> > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 15:34:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:34:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT In-Reply-To: <7960257.1069427005477.JavaMail.root@bushtv-java-2.server.telinco.net> Message-ID: <20031121163336.B53373-100000@mother.brap.dk> The first two Spermbirds (Something To Prove & Nothing Is Easy) are the best two punk albums ever to come out of Germany. Period. And oh my fucking god they were funny! b From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 16:30:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (wardance) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:30:58 +0100 Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT References: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D602026020@encore02.libertylivewire.com> Message-ID: <002001c3b04c$d8a0dd50$91cffea9@Wehrwolf> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C3B055.39CADA10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GREAT !! Thanks for that, Bill !! But I just wondered : how can we download and save those tracks on a = computer ?... Thanks in advance for your technical explainations ! ;-) Dark lycanthropunk greetings... Hans Wehrwolf ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Meissner=20 To: 'gathering@misera.net'=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT Hello all, A few days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band = called ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing = Joke(ala Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting = is that the recordings that make up the cassette only release called"Med = Lov Skal Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or = download) came out in 1983.You know when you are listening to a band you = have never heard before and you hear a obvious influence from another = band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does = not sound like it came from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got = the feeling that I stumbled upon a band that was doing a similar music = style at the same time(that is possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak = Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so = this opinion is based on the music alone. I would like to get your opinions on this and if anyone out there = has any info or a short bio about this band,share you're knowledge with = me please-I could not find hardly anything on the web about this band = either.I posted a message similar to this a few days ago but only got 1 = reply(from "flew") so if ya got time check it out.And the the main page = for the web link to the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource for = music(streaming but most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I did = the ANGOR WAT stuff). Here's the link: = = http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=3Df&f=3D%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+= man++land+bygge Enjoy, Bill = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C3B055.39CADA10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
GREAT !!
Thanks for that, Bill !!
But I just wondered : how can we = download and save=20 those tracks on a computer ?...
Thanks in advance for your technical = explainations=20 ! ;-)
 
Dark lycanthropunk = greetings...
 
Hans Wehrwolf
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill Meissner
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 3:23=20 PM
Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR = WAT

           = =20 Hello all,

     = A few=20 days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band called ANGOR = WAT.This=20 band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing Joke(ala Firedances) = that=20 it's scary.What makes it even more interesting is that the recordings = that=20 make up the cassette only release called"Med Lov Skal Landet = Bygges"(which I=20 will provide a link to listen or download) came out in 1983.You know = when you=20 are listening to a band you have never heard before and you hear a = obvious=20 influence from another band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like = Killing Joke=20 but No,it does not sound like it came from influence from Killing = Joke.I kind=20 of got the feeling that I stumbled upon a band that was doing a = similar music=20 style at the same time(that is possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak = Norwegian=20 so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so this = opinion is=20 based on the music alone.

   I = would like to=20 get your opinions on this and if anyone out there has any info or a = short bio=20 about this band,share you're knowledge with me please-I could not find = hardly=20 anything on the web about this band either.I posted a message similar = to this=20 a few days ago but only got 1 reply(from "flew") so if ya got time = check it=20 out.And the the main page for the web link to the songs is a great = punk &=20 hardcore resource for music(streaming but most can be downloaded and = put on to=20 CDR as I did the ANGOR WAT stuff).

           =             &= nbsp;     =20 Here's the link:    =20 =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;       =20 http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=3Df&= ;f=3D%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge

 

           =          =20 Enjoy,   Bill=20 =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     

------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C3B055.39CADA10-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 16:39:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:39:52 -0500 Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT References: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D602026020@encore02.libertylivewire.com> <002001c3b04c$d8a0dd50$91cffea9@Wehrwolf> Message-ID: <006601c3b04e$16c2aae0$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C3B024.2D7724C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <> in windows..right click, "save as". put in a folder, enjoy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: wardance=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT GREAT !! Thanks for that, Bill !! But I just wondered : how can we download and save those tracks on a = computer ?... Thanks in advance for your technical explainations ! ;-) Dark lycanthropunk greetings... Hans Wehrwolf ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Meissner=20 To: 'gathering@misera.net'=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT Hello all, A few days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band = called ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing = Joke(ala Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting = is that the recordings that make up the cassette only release called"Med = Lov Skal Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or = download) came out in 1983.You know when you are listening to a band you = have never heard before and you hear a obvious influence from another = band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does = not sound like it came from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got = the feeling that I stumbled upon a band that was doing a similar music = style at the same time(that is possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak = Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so = this opinion is based on the music alone. I would like to get your opinions on this and if anyone out there = has any info or a short bio about this band,share you're knowledge with = me please-I could not find hardly anything on the web about this band = either.I posted a message similar to this a few days ago but only got 1 = reply(from "flew") so if ya got time check it out.And the the main page = for the web link to the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource for = music(streaming but most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I did = the ANGOR WAT stuff). Here's the link: = = http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=3Df&f=3D%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+= man++land+bygge Enjoy, Bill = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C3B024.2D7724C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<<how can we download and save those tracks on = a=20 computer>>
 
in windows..right click, "save as". put in a folder, = enjoy
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 wardance
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 11:30=20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] once again = ANGOR=20 WAT

 
GREAT !!
Thanks for that, Bill !!
But I just wondered : how can we = download and=20 save those tracks on a computer ?...
Thanks in advance for your technical=20 explainations ! ;-)
 
Dark lycanthropunk = greetings...
 
Hans Wehrwolf
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill Meissner =
Sent: Friday, November 21, = 2003 3:23=20 PM
Subject: [kj] once again = ANGOR=20 WAT

           = =20 Hello all,

     A few=20 days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band called ANGOR = WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing Joke(ala=20 Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting is = that the=20 recordings that make up the cassette only release called"Med Lov = Skal Landet=20 Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or download) came out = in=20 1983.You know when you are listening to a band you have never heard = before=20 and you hear a obvious influence from another band?Well Yes,this = band sounds=20 a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does not sound like it came from = influence=20 from Killing Joke.I kind of got the feeling that I stumbled upon a = band that=20 was doing a similar music style at the same time(that is possible I=20 suppose)Now,I don't speak Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the = lyrical=20 content pertains to so this opinion is based on the music=20 alone.

   I = would like=20 to get your opinions on this and if anyone out there has any info or = a short=20 bio about this band,share you're knowledge with me please-I could = not find=20 hardly anything on the web about this band either.I posted a message = similar=20 to this a few days ago but only got 1 reply(from "flew") so if ya = got time=20 check it out.And the the main page for the web link to the songs is = a great=20 punk & hardcore resource for music(streaming but most can be = downloaded=20 and put on to CDR as I did the ANGOR WAT stuff).

           =             &= nbsp;     =20 Here's the link:    =20 =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;       =20 http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=3Df&= ;f=3D%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge

 

           =          =20 Enjoy,   Bill=20 =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     

------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C3B024.2D7724C0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 16:56:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bill Meissner) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:56:14 -0800 Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT Message-ID: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D602026021@encore02.libertylivewire.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B050.5FB64980 Content-Type: text/plain To download I just clicked the "play all" icon button on the web page,opened them in Windows Media Player.I then clicked each track-then right clicked and selected "save target" or "save". A "my documents" folder should pop up,then choose the folder to save them.Then open whatever software you use for burning an select the tracks.You must save the tracks before burning them.You can't just hit play all and then immediately try burning.Beware that some tracks may be protected,but in most cases you can.PS: STONE-O-SAURUS is worth checking out to. Enjoy, Bill -----Original Message----- From: wardance [mailto:wardance@wardance.net] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:31 AM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT GREAT !! Thanks for that, Bill !! But I just wondered : how can we download and save those tracks on a computer ?... Thanks in advance for your technical explainations ! ;-) Dark lycanthropunk greetings... Hans Wehrwolf ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Meissner To: 'gathering@misera.net' Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT Hello all, A few days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band called ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing Joke(ala Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting is that the recordings that make up the cassette only release called"Med Lov Skal Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or download) came out in 1983.You know when you are listening to a band you have never heard before and you hear a obvious influence from another band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does not sound like it came from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got the feeling that I stumbled upon a band that was doing a similar music style at the same time(that is possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so this opinion is based on the music alone. I would like to get your opinions on this and if anyone out there has any info or a short bio about this band,share you're knowledge with me please-I could not find hardly anything on the web about this band either.I posted a message similar to this a few days ago but only got 1 reply(from "flew") so if ya got time check it out.And the the main page for the web link to the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource for music(streaming but most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I did the ANGOR WAT stuff). Here's the link: http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=f &f=%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge Enjoy, Bill ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B050.5FB64980 Content-Type: text/html

To download I just clicked the "play all" icon button on the web page,opened them in Windows Media Player.I then clicked each track-then right clicked and selected "save target" or "save". A "my documents" folder should pop up,then choose the folder to save them.Then open whatever software you use for burning an select the tracks.You must save the tracks before burning them.You can't just hit play all and then immediately try burning.Beware that some tracks may be protected,but in most cases you can.PS: STONE-O-SAURUS is worth checking out to.          Enjoy,  Bill

 

-----Original Message-----
From: wardance [mailto:wardance@wardance.net]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:31 AM
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT

 

 

GREAT !!

Thanks for that, Bill !!

But I just wondered : how can we download and save those tracks on a computer ?...

Thanks in advance for your technical explainations ! ;-)

 

Dark lycanthropunk greetings...

 

Hans Wehrwolf

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:23 PM

Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT

 

            Hello all,

     A few days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band called ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing Joke(ala Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting is that the recordings that make up the cassette only release called"Med Lov Skal Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or download) came out in 1983.You know when you are listening to a band you have never heard before and you hear a obvious influence from another band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does not sound like it came from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got the feeling that I stumbled upon a band that was doing a similar music style at the same time(that is possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so this opinion is based on the music alone.

   I would like to get your opinions on this and if anyone out there has any info or a short bio about this band,share you're knowledge with me please-I could not find hardly anything on the web about this band either.I posted a message similar to this a few days ago but only got 1 reply(from "flew") so if ya got time check it out.And the the main page for the web link to the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource for music(streaming but most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I did the ANGOR WAT stuff).

                              Here's the link:                                      http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge

 

                     Enjoy,   Bill                                                       

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B050.5FB64980-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 17:05:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (wardance) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:05:04 +0100 Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT References: <3B11EBD62EE8D411856400508BB824D602026020@encore02.libertylivewire.com> <002001c3b04c$d8a0dd50$91cffea9@Wehrwolf> <006601c3b04e$16c2aae0$338b6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <005501c3b051$9bacd2a0$91cffea9@Wehrwolf> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C3B059.FD170CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks a lot !! ;-) I had never heard of ANGOR WAT so far, but I really enjoy this band a = lot !! Indeed, this is a kind of mix between early KJ and early DISORDER, = that's great ! All the best, Hans Wehrwolf ----- Original Message -----=20 From: fluw=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT <> in windows..right click, "save as". put in a folder, enjoy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: wardance=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT GREAT !! Thanks for that, Bill !! But I just wondered : how can we download and save those tracks on a = computer ?... Thanks in advance for your technical explainations ! ;-) Dark lycanthropunk greetings... Hans Wehrwolf ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Meissner=20 To: 'gathering@misera.net'=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: [kj] once again ANGOR WAT Hello all, A few days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band = called ANGOR WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing = Joke(ala Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting = is that the recordings that make up the cassette only release called"Med = Lov Skal Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or = download) came out in 1983.You know when you are listening to a band you = have never heard before and you hear a obvious influence from another = band?Well Yes,this band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does = not sound like it came from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got = the feeling that I stumbled upon a band that was doing a similar music = style at the same time(that is possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak = Norwegian so I don't have a clue what the lyrical content pertains to so = this opinion is based on the music alone. I would like to get your opinions on this and if anyone out = there has any info or a short bio about this band,share you're knowledge = with me please-I could not find hardly anything on the web about this = band either.I posted a message similar to this a few days ago but only = got 1 reply(from "flew") so if ya got time check it out.And the the main = page for the web link to the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource = for music(streaming but most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I = did the ANGOR WAT stuff). Here's the link: = = http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=3Df&f=3D%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+= man++land+bygge Enjoy, Bill = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C3B059.FD170CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Thanks a lot !! ;-)
 
I had never heard of ANGOR  WAT so = far, but I=20 really enjoy this band a lot !!
Indeed, this is a kind of mix between = early KJ and=20 early DISORDER, that's great !
 
All the best,
 
Hans Wehrwolf
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 fluw=20
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 5:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] once again = ANGOR=20 WAT

<<how can we download and save those tracks = on a=20 computer>>
 
in windows..right click, "save as". put in a = folder,=20 enjoy
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 wardance
Sent: Friday, November 21, = 2003 11:30=20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] once again = ANGOR=20 WAT

 
GREAT !!
Thanks for that, Bill = !!
But I just wondered : how can we = download and=20 save those tracks on a computer ?...
Thanks in advance for your = technical=20 explainations ! ;-)
 
Dark lycanthropunk = greetings...
 
Hans Wehrwolf
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Bill Meissner =
Sent: Friday, November 21, = 2003 3:23=20 PM
Subject: [kj] once again = ANGOR=20 WAT

           = =20 Hello all,

     A few=20 days ago I posted a message concerning a Norwegian band called = ANGOR=20 WAT.This band sounds so much like a stripped down Killing Joke(ala = Firedances) that it's scary.What makes it even more interesting is = that=20 the recordings that make up the cassette only release called"Med = Lov Skal=20 Landet Bygges"(which I will provide a link to listen or download) = came out=20 in 1983.You know when you are listening to a band you have never = heard=20 before and you hear a obvious influence from another band?Well = Yes,this=20 band sounds a lot like Killing Joke but No,it does not sound like = it came=20 from influence from Killing Joke.I kind of got the feeling that I = stumbled=20 upon a band that was doing a similar music style at the same = time(that is=20 possible I suppose)Now,I don't speak Norwegian so I don't have a = clue what=20 the lyrical content pertains to so this opinion is based on the = music=20 alone.

   I = would like=20 to get your opinions on this and if anyone out there has any info = or a=20 short bio about this band,share you're knowledge with me please-I = could=20 not find hardly anything on the web about this band either.I = posted a=20 message similar to this a few days ago but only got 1 reply(from = "flew")=20 so if ya got time check it out.And the the main page for the web = link to=20 the songs is a great punk & hardcore resource for = music(streaming but=20 most can be downloaded and put on to CDR as I did the ANGOR WAT=20 stuff).

           =             &= nbsp;     =20 Here's the link:    =20 =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;       =20 http://www.punkrock.no/Default.asp?q=3Df&= ;f=3D%2FAngor+Wat%2FMed+lov+skal+man++land+bygge

 

           =          =20 Enjoy,   Bill=20 =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     

------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C3B059.FD170CB0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 15:34:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Nika) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:34:00 +0100 Subject: [kj] (no subject) Message-ID: <20031121153411Z125831-28704+757289@mail.centrum.cz> > My favourite banshees song would have to be > israel > cheers Steve in bucks My favourite as well. An excellent song, great on the Nocturne album. Nika in Prague From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 18:03:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:03:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] drum bums! References: Message-ID: <00e001c3b059$d4843d40$b5528351@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01C3B059.D1ED17A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is that all you think atkins has done? mix his drums upfront? atkins is a shit of the highest order, a conman,=20 i'm not going any further cos he likes threatening to sue people , but = it's as bad as you can possibly imagine some one will clue you in off-list =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: phat seanio=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:47 PM Subject: [kj] drum bums! I'm wondering if anyone can shed any light on a point that's bugging = me- I notice theres not much love lost for martin atkins on joke = fronts(I got booted off a yahoo group for defending someones right to = like his past work!),and I've noticed it here too-What I'm trying to = suss is,I read that paul ferguson lost his spot in the band for = punching jaz's missus in the face-just trying to work out-to me ,a bloke = punching a woman in the face,might be a tad worse and unforgivable,than = a bloke who mixes his drums right up front.......... hope I've got the story right-or in a way I hope I hav'nt......... sean Its best to remain quiet and appear stupid, than open your mouth and remove all doubt.......... n.p----- =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- If you're fed up with spam in your inbox sign for MSN 8 with it's = intelligent junk e-mail filters. = _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list = Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering = ------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01C3B059.D1ED17A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
is that all you think atkins has done? = mix his=20 drums upfront?
 
atkins is a shit of the highest order, = a conman,=20
i'm not going any further cos he likes threatening to sue people , but it's as bad as you = can=20 possibly imagine
 
some one will clue you in = off-list
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 phat=20 seanio
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 1:47=20 PM
Subject: [kj] drum bums!

I'm wondering if anyone can shed any light on a point that's = bugging=20 me-    I notice theres not much love lost for martin = atkins on=20 joke fronts(I got booted off a yahoo group for defending someones = right to=20 like his past work!),and I've noticed it here too-What I'm trying to = suss is,I=20 read that paul ferguson lost his spot in the band  for punching = jaz's=20 missus in the face-just trying to work out-to me ,a bloke punching a = woman in=20 the face,might be a tad worse and unforgivable,than a bloke who mixes = his=20 drums right up front..........

hope I've got the story right-or in a way I hope I = hav'nt.........

sean


Its best to remain quiet and appear=20 stupid,

than open your mouth and remove all=20 doubt..........

n.p-----

 

 


 


If you're fed up with spam in your inbox sign for MSN 8 with it's = intelligent=20 junk e-mail filters. _______________________________________________ = Gathering=20 mailing list Gathering@misera.net=20 http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering =
------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01C3B059.D1ED17A0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 18:29:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 Subject: [kj] (no subject) Message-ID: <5fd4a5ca0e.5ca0e5fd4a@iol.cz> =22Cascade=22 is clearly the best song of Banshees=2E PAVEL ----- P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va ----- Od=3A Nika =3Cnia=2Eawe=40centrum=2Ecz=3E Datum=3A p=E1tek=2C 21=2E listopadu 2003 v 4=3A34 odp P=F8edm=ECt=3A Re=3A =5Bkj=5D (no subject) =3E = =3E = =3E =3E My favourite banshees song would have to = =3E be = =3E =3E israel =3E =3E cheers Steve in bucks =3E = =3E My favourite as well=2E An excellent song=2C = =3E great on the Nocturne album=2E =3E Nika in Prague =3E = =3E = =3E = =3E = =3E = =3E = =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E Gathering mailing list =3E Gathering=40misera=2Enet =3E http=3A//four=2Epairlist=2Enet/mailman/listinfo/gathering =3E From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 18:56:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:56:59 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? In-Reply-To: <00e001c3b059$d4843d40$b5528351@mycomputer> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152264220_4845812 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Ok folks, I recently quit smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far as cravings and all that goes, I am having no issues. What I am wondering, if any of you have quit, is are there some strange complications, like very thick, bloody, discharge from the lungs, and a deep cough, normal in the healing process, or should I get myself to the hospital???? What I have been hacking up today has been pretty fucking shocking... Uh...help!?!?! KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM --B_3152264220_4845812 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? Ok folks, I recently qu= it smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far as cravings and all that goes,= I am having no issues. What I am wondering, if any of you have quit, is are= there some strange complications, like very thick, bloody, discharge from t= he lungs, and a deep cough, normal in the healing process, or should I get m= yself to the hospital???? What I have been hacking up today has been pretty = fucking shocking...

Uh...help!?!?!



KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
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--B_3152264220_4845812-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 19:08:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:08:09 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemna! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <200311211908.hALJ6Bd2026338@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> I'VE BEEN SPRUNG! After yet another agonizing morning of waiting around and countless instances of inefficent shenanigans, they finally got around to the second batch of prospective jurors (self included therein). When they got to me, they practically imediately conceded (I guess my constant fidgeting, glaring and fang-baring gave them the clue), and I was released. Two of the twenty (!!!) lawyers came up to me as we broke for lunch (after I'd been excused) and expressed their apologies, admitting that when they'd heard I had a pregnant wife, they expected I'd be a reluctant juror and blah blah blah... They were perfectly nice about it, truthfully, but by then I was so relieved that they could've been speaking in Klingon for all I was absorbing. I tell ya, after being so tense and angry and anxiety-ridden for the last three days, I feel positively hungover. Anyway, that's that. Thanks to everyone's advice and support. Alex in NYC From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 19:06:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:06:20 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune Message-ID: <200311211906.hALJ6Bcw026338@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> I'd say "Spellbound," myself. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. PAVEL > From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 19:15:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:15:23 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemma! Help Help Help! In-Reply-To: <200311211908.hALJ6Bd2026338@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: So, uh, did ya get to use any of our advice? Congrats. Glad you got out of it. Otherwise, I would have had to sit back, point and laugh at ya for getting trapped..hahaha Jury duty sucks. On 11/21/03 1:08 PM, "Alex Smith" wrote: > > > I'VE BEEN SPRUNG! > > After yet another agonizing morning of waiting around and countless > instances of inefficent shenanigans, they finally got around to the second > batch of prospective jurors (self included therein). When they got to me, > they practically imediately conceded (I guess my constant fidgeting, glaring > and fang-baring gave them the clue), and I was released. Two of the twenty > (!!!) lawyers came up to me as we broke for lunch (after I'd been excused) > and expressed their apologies, admitting that when they'd heard I had a > pregnant wife, they expected I'd be a reluctant juror and blah blah blah... > They were perfectly nice about it, truthfully, but by then I was so relieved > that they could've been speaking in Klingon for all I was absorbing. I tell > ya, after being so tense and angry and anxiety-ridden for the last three > days, I feel positively hungover. > > Anyway, that's that. Thanks to everyone's advice and support. > > > Alex in NYC KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 19:19:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:19:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemma! Help Help Help! Message-ID: <200311211919.hALJJWgt008082@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> No, I decided that given my particular circumstances, I had no reason to dress like a viking warlord or wet my pants or foam at the mouth (well, I did do a bit of that) or refer to the judge as "your supreme excellency most exalted" or any of that. Next time, maybe. Ale xin NYC ---------- >From: Jester >To: >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jury Duty Dilemma! Help Help Help! >Date: Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 2:15 PM > >So, uh, did ya get to use any of our advice? > >Congrats. Glad you got out of it. Otherwise, I would have had to sit back, >point and laugh at ya for getting trapped..hahaha > >Jury duty sucks. > >On 11/21/03 1:08 PM, "Alex Smith" wrote: > >> >> >> I'VE BEEN SPRUNG! >> >> After yet another agonizing morning of waiting around and countless >> instances of inefficent shenanigans, they finally got around to the second >> batch of prospective jurors (self included therein). When they got to me, >> they practically imediately conceded (I guess my constant fidgeting, glaring >> and fang-baring gave them the clue), and I was released. Two of the twenty >> (!!!) lawyers came up to me as we broke for lunch (after I'd been excused) >> and expressed their apologies, admitting that when they'd heard I had a >> pregnant wife, they expected I'd be a reluctant juror and blah blah blah... >> They were perfectly nice about it, truthfully, but by then I was so relieved >> that they could've been speaking in Klingon for all I was absorbing. I tell >> ya, after being so tense and angry and anxiety-ridden for the last three >> days, I feel positively hungover. >> >> Anyway, that's that. Thanks to everyone's advice and support. >> >> >> Alex in NYC > > > >KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! >OCCISIO LOCATIO > >THE WEBMASTER, >JESTER >WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM >WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 19:17:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:17:50 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune Message-ID: <6a57768cb6.68cb66a577@iol.cz> =22Spellbound=22 is so great too! Cheers=2C Alex Pavel in Prague ----- P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va ----- Od=3A Alex Smith =3Cvassifer=40earthlink=2Enet=3E Datum=3A p=E1tek=2C 21=2E listopadu 2003 v 8=3A06 odp P=F8edm=ECt=3A Re=3A =5Bkj=5D OT=3A Best Banshees tune =3E = =3E I=27d say =22Spellbound=2C=22 myself=2E =3E = =3E Alex in NYC =3E = =3E = =3E = =3E ---------- =3E =3EFrom=3A =3Cxps1=40quick=2Ecz=3E =3E =3ETo=3A gathering=40misera=2Enet =3E =3ESubject=3A Re=3A =5Bkj=5D (no subject) =3E =3EDate=3A Fri=2C 21 Nov 2003 19=3A29=3A29 +0100 =3E =3E =3E = =3E =3E=22Cascade=22 is clearly the best song of = =3E Banshees=2E PAVEL =3E =3E =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E Gathering mailing list =3E Gathering=40misera=2Enet =3E http=3A//four=2Epairlist=2Enet/mailman/listinfo/gathering =3E From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 20:07:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Brian Whitehead) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:07:16 -0000 Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees References: <5fd4a5ca0e.5ca0e5fd4a@iol.cz> Message-ID: <002901c3b06b$109b7a80$dd2f8751@EmmaJane> If we are on the subject I'll go for 'Love Out Me' off the last CD Rapture. ... or Jigsaw Feeling ... or ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) "Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. PAVEL ----- Pùvodní zpráva ----- Od: Nika Datum: pátek, 21. listopadu 2003 v 4:34 odp Pøedmìt: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > > > My favourite banshees song would have to > be > > israel > > cheers Steve in bucks > > My favourite as well. An excellent song, > great on the Nocturne album. > Nika in Prague > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 20:15:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:15:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees In-Reply-To: <002901c3b06b$109b7a80$dd2f8751@EmmaJane> Message-ID: <20031121201523.49227.qmail@web86105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-5262148-1069445723=:48920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit switch! Brian Whitehead wrote: If we are on the subject I'll go for 'Love Out Me' off the last CD Rapture. ... or Jigsaw Feeling ... or ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) "Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. PAVEL ----- Pùvodní zpráva ----- Od: Nika Datum: pátek, 21. listopadu 2003 v 4:34 odp Pøedmìt: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > > > My favourite banshees song would have to > be > > israel > > cheers Steve in bucks > > My favourite as well. An excellent song, > great on the Nocturne album. > Nika in Prague > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-5262148-1069445723=:48920 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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If we are on the subject I'll go for 'Love Out Me' off the last CD Rapture.
... or Jigsaw Feeling ... or

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"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. PAVEL

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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-5262148-1069445723=:48920-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 22:09:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Brian Whitehead) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:09:56 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? References: Message-ID: <005201c3b07c$32ee7ef0$dd2f8751@EmmaJane> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C3B07C.323233D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Quitting smoking...complications????I will have given up for 7 years = tomorrow after smoking for 17 years. What I remember more than anything is the amount of mints I went through = and the slight dizzy spells.=20 Spend your money on CDs instead. Best of luck, I know how difficult it is. I'll be checking up on you from time to time and I'll know if your = telling porkies. Brian. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jester=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? Ok folks, I recently quit smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far = as cravings and all that goes, I am having no issues. What I am = wondering, if any of you have quit, is are there some strange = complications, like very thick, bloody, discharge from the lungs, and a = deep cough, normal in the healing process, or should I get myself to the = hospital???? What I have been hacking up today has been pretty fucking = shocking... Uh...help!?!?! KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!=20 OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C3B07C.323233D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Quitting smoking...complications????
I will have given up for 7 years = tomorrow after=20 smoking for 17 years.
What I remember more than anything is=20 the amount of mints I went through and the slight dizzy=20 spells. 
 
Spend your money on CDs = instead.
 
Best of luck, I know how difficult it=20 is.
 
I'll be checking up on you from time to = time and=20 I'll know if your telling porkies.
 
Brian.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jester
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 6:56=20 PM
Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting=20 smoking...complications????

Ok = folks, I=20 recently quit smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far as cravings = and all=20 that goes, I am having no issues. What I am wondering, if any of you = have=20 quit, is are there some strange complications, like very thick, = bloody,=20 discharge from the lungs, and a deep cough, normal in the healing = process, or=20 should I get myself to the hospital???? What I have been hacking up = today has=20 been pretty fucking=20 shocking...

Uh...help!?!?!



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------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C3B07C.323233D0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 23:22:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:22:06 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - thanks kobe & jacko Message-ID: <001601c3b086$49baf000$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C3B05C.5E9AF800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.chortler.com/1124bush.html ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C3B05C.5E9AF800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C3B05C.5E9AF800-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 23:49:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:49:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees In-Reply-To: <20031121201523.49227.qmail@web86105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031121234951.53517.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> Fireworks, Last Beat of my Heart http://blood-dance.net/discographies/siouxie/siolbh.html --- bluce ree wrote: > switch! ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 23:50:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Lambeth) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:50:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] XLd Sydney - Useless Ted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031121235056.11227.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Oh, Ted wasn't there? Delayed was he? Couldn't get a cab to the airport? Fuckin' prick cost me a flight from Canberra to Sydney & a nights accommodation (in a town hosting the rugby world cup tonight you can bet the accommodation wasn't cheap). I hope his excuse was good. NO, I didn't see the Joke & now chances are that I never will. I found out after I'd gotten off the plane to Sydney that they'd postponed until the following night. No fucking good to me, I had to fly to Adelaide the next morning, where I am now. For a gig starting at 7:30pm they chose 6:30pm to make the announcement. Mongrels. So, Michele (who'd flown in from Melbourne, poor bastard) and I went out for a few beers and a feed instead so it wasn't a complete loss... But, in the absence of a decent excuse, the Joke, their promotors and good ol' Ted can be thought of as useless fucks who couldn't organise a shout in a pub. -S ~Analysis, Paralysis~ --- Jester wrote: > Ted was not there yet. He was delayed a bit....No > drummer, no Joke. > > On 11/20/03 4:44 PM, "sade1" > wrote: > > > Any word as to why Sydney was cancelled(XLd)? > > The "official" site doesn't say. > > Was there icecubes involved? > > > > saul > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 21 23:57:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Lambeth) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:57:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Jaz & Geordie on TripleJ In-Reply-To: <000801c3ae69$23f0f960$338b6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031121235750.6154.qmail@web41207.mail.yahoo.com> > sorry scott, but hold onto your tickets as the dj's > proclaim those tickets are good for the next night's > show. Oh, thanks mate. Funny how every other bastard on this list knew this before me. -Still-fuckin-bitter S --- fluw wrote: > sorry wasn't able to record it ...fun interview lots > of jokes fired off by jaz... > > some details: the dj's kept referring to the band as > "the killing joke". > one dj asked what brings "the killing joke back to > australia after (25/17) years" and without skipping > a beat jaz deadpans "quantas". > in response to why they still get back together > again and record/tour, jaz says "beer". > jaz says (i'm paraphrasing) 'the fishing trip is to > wind down after the tour before heading home and > hearing the lady ask him to clean up the dishes.' > > after the interview the dj's announced that the > metro show is cancelled due to a certain drummer not > being in the country yet! > > sorry scott, but hold onto your tickets as the dj's > proclaim those tickets are good for the next night's > show. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lambeth > To: gathering@misera.net > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:26 PM > Subject: [kj] Jaz & Geordie on TripleJ > > > Hey Jokers. > > Sometime in the next couple of hours there'll be > an > interview with Jaz & Geordie ahead of their Aussie > tour (which starts tonight). > > Go to triplej.abc.net.au - I think they've got > streaming audio... > > I can't record it - I'm flying up to Sydney to see > the > boys instead! > > -S > > ~Analysis, Paralysis~ > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail > AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 00:25:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:25:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Whiteout - Jenny DeVito Is A Fucking Wench Mix Message-ID: <20031122012411.D71049-100000@mother.brap.dk> Those of you who have seen that one before, don't bother, it is the album version. Those of you who haven't got a clue what i am talking about, please drive on, thank you. b From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 01:15:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:15:22 -0000 Subject: [kj] Neon Hearts and 1919 References: <20031121114826.U43767-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <000c01c3b096$1ac35de0$2f887ed4@mydomain.com> You can pick up the entire recorded works @ http://www.cherryred.co.uk/goth/1919.htm - KJ plagiarism definitely although guitarist Mark Tighe's sleevenotes would suggest otherwise - this guy had a big blonde Geordie quiff and wore tight black cut-off t-shirts (admittedly just like everyone else wore at the time) - I only saw 1919 once @ the Brixton Ace club but I preferred KJ imitators to the other dross that was out there at the time ... also never heard the Neon Hearts ... * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bo Krogsgaard" To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Neon Hearts and 1919 > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > > A friend of mine claims the band 1919 is much like KJ -- I don't know > > of them, so thought I would ask you lot. He also likes Neon Hearts, > > and wonders what you think of them. > > Half their songs indeed sound so close to Killing Joke that if i didn't > know better, i would think it was a missing album from around the Fire > Dances era. They aren't THAT good but not really bad either. > > Never heard Neon Hearts. > > > b > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 01:55:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dave Axford) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:55:51 -0500 Subject: [kj] XLd Sydney - Useless Ted References: <20031121235056.11227.qmail@web41208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006c01c3b09b$c1e4e990$826f8a3f@Joker> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C3B071.D8EFE7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yikes!... Scott, I am so sorry to hear that. That indeed is a very = serious drag. > Oh, Ted wasn't there? Delayed was he? Couldn't get a > cab to the airport? >=20 > Fuckin' prick cost me a flight from Canberra to Sydney > & a nights accommodation (in a town hosting the rugby > world cup tonight you can bet the accommodation wasn't > cheap). I hope his excuse was good. >=20 > NO, I didn't see the Joke & now chances are that I > never will. I found out after I'd gotten off the > plane to Sydney that they'd postponed until the > following night. No fucking good to me, I had to fly > to Adelaide the next morning, where I am now. For a > gig starting at 7:30pm they chose 6:30pm to make the > announcement. Mongrels. >=20 > So, Michele (who'd flown in from Melbourne, poor > bastard) and I went out for a few beers and a feed > instead so it wasn't a complete loss... >=20 > But, in the absence of a decent excuse, the Joke, > their promotors and good ol' Ted can be thought of as > useless fucks who couldn't organise a shout in a pub. >=20 > -S >=20 > ~Analysis, Paralysis~ >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C3B071.D8EFE7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Yikes!... Scott, I am so sorry to hear = that. That=20 indeed is a very serious drag.

> Oh, Ted = wasn't=20 there?  Delayed was he?  Couldn't get a
> cab to the=20 airport?
>
> Fuckin' prick cost me a flight from Canberra = to=20 Sydney
> & a nights accommodation (in a town hosting the = rugby
>=20 world cup tonight you can bet the accommodation wasn't
> = cheap).  I=20 hope his excuse was good.
>
> NO, I didn't see the Joke = & now=20 chances are that I
> never will.  I found out after I'd = gotten off=20 the
> plane to Sydney that they'd postponed until the
> = following=20 night.  No fucking good to me, I had to fly
> to Adelaide the = next=20 morning, where I am now.  For a
> gig starting at 7:30pm they = chose=20 6:30pm to make the
> announcement.  Mongrels.
> =
> So,=20 Michele (who'd flown in from Melbourne, poor
> bastard) and I went = out for=20 a few beers and a feed
> instead so it wasn't a complete = loss...
>=20
> But, in the absence of a decent excuse, the Joke,
> their = promotors and good ol' Ted can be thought of as
> useless fucks = who=20 couldn't organise a shout in a pub.
>
> -S
>
> = ~Analysis, Paralysis~
>
>
------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C3B071.D8EFE7E0-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 02:42:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:42:39 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? In-Reply-To: from "Jester" at Nov 21, 2003 12:56:59 PM Message-ID: <200311220242.hAM2gdnl021268@basil.jkm.net> > Ok folks, I recently quit smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far as > cravings and all that goes, I am having no issues. What I am wondering, if > any of you have quit, is are there some strange complications, like very > thick, bloody, discharge from the lungs, and a deep cough, normal in the > healing process, or should I get myself to the hospital???? What I have been > hacking up today has been pretty fucking shocking... I would not think this a normal response to quitting smoking. Texas is home to some pretty nasty illnesses this winter (doesn't feel like it yet, but the diseases don't know this). Coughing up blood merits a trip to the doctor or hospital. From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 05:18:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:18:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune In-Reply-To: <200311211906.hALJ6Bcw026338@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031122051827.74674.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com> --- Alex Smith wrote: > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. I'm voting for the Orchestral version of "Overground" from The Thorn E.P. Aleph in SF > > Alex in NYC > > > > ---------- > >From: > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > PAVEL > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 06:09:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:09:58 EST Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees Message-ID: --part1_ac.4b9c5801.2cf057b6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's funny, but a VASTLY SUPERIOR band, Stiff Little Fingers, also had an album called Tinderbox that came out in the mid to late 90s. --part1_ac.4b9c5801.2cf057b6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's funny, but a VASTLY SUPERIOR band, Stiff Little F= ingers, also had an album called Tinderbox that came out in the mid to late=20= 90s. --part1_ac.4b9c5801.2cf057b6_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 07:15:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (MIchael) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:15:51 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune References: <20031122051827.74674.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c3b0c8$75db4d00$5abf9b0c@dragonflke3gr5> Aleph - great choice! I totally forgot about that one. Anyone seen the nocturne video? I used to have that until someone decided to record a porno over it. (great porn though) I was looking for you at the Sf show with Tom but never saw anyone that fit your description. You happen to be goin gto NMA oon tuerday at the DNA? Cheers Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Djehuti111" To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > --- Alex Smith wrote: > > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > I'm voting for the Orchestral version of "Overground" > from The Thorn E.P. > > Aleph in SF > > > > > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > > > ---------- > > >From: > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > > PAVEL > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > ===== > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The > darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the > silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, > studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a > stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of > the ceremony." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 07:38:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:38:57 -0900 Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees References: <20031121201523.49227.qmail@web86105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003f01c3b0cb$b12138e0$0b9f70d1@antifrz> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C3B080.4023DB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, Spellbound. Also high up on my list would be their version of Supernatural Thing on = the Arabian Nights ep. love, Kara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: bluce ree=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees switch! Brian Whitehead wrote: If we are on the subject I'll go for 'Love Out Me' off the last CD = Rapture. ... or Jigsaw Feeling ... or ----- Original Message ----- From:=20 To:=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) "Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. PAVEL ----- P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va ----- Od: Nika=20 Datum: p=E1tek, 21. listopadu 2003 v 4:34 odp P=F8edm=ECt: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > > > My favourite banshees song would have to > be > > israel > > cheers Steve in bucks > > My favourite as well. An excellent song, > great on the Nocturne album. > Nika in Prague > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! = Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C3B080.4023DB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,
Spellbound.
Also high up on my list would be = their version=20 of Supernatural Thing on the Arabian Nights ep.
love,
Kara
 
 
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switch!
 


Brian Whitehead <wittz@btinternet.com>= =20 wrote:
If=20 we are on the subject I'll go for 'Love Out Me' off the last CD=20 Rapture.
... or Jigsaw Feeling ... or

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"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees.=20 PAVEL

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Pavel in Praha From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 08:26:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Saxton) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:26:10 -0000 Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees References: <20031121234951.53517.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006601c3b0d2$4906d0b0$04e82ad9@musicpc> I'm gonna have to plump for Spellbound, it is sheer classic Banshees. by the way the new Creatures cd is great too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sade1" To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees > Fireworks, > Last Beat of my Heart > http://blood-dance.net/discographies/siouxie/siolbh.html > > --- bluce ree wrote: > > switch! > > > ===== > WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > > "Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 09:10:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (DG) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 01:10:53 -0800 Subject: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs References: <000d01c3aecc$8dfb1670$90748751@mycomputer> <008501c3af24$a3723440$11effea9@BRAINSAW> <009101c3af90$aaa18790$a3968351@mycomputer> Message-ID: <00ff01c3b0d8$895e50b0$11effea9@BRAINSAW> did you find it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Bucknall" To: Sent: Thursday, 20 November, 2003 10:03 Subject: Re: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > thanks mate > cheers tim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DG" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:10 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > > > > I think you can find it on the CBGB web-site. damebo. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Bucknall" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 November, 2003 10:40 > > Subject: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > > > > > > > anyone know a website where i can get a list of prong gigs? > > > i need to tie down a date for a gig at CBGB's in 1989 > > > many thanks in advance > > > all the best tim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 09:18:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:18:57 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT Welcome Dubya Message-ID: http://www.guilfin.net/gallery/?id=pxINET2714 - pro-Bush demonstration in London.... hahahahahaha From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 10:39:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:39:27 -0000 Subject: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs References: <000d01c3aecc$8dfb1670$90748751@mycomputer> <008501c3af24$a3723440$11effea9@BRAINSAW> <009101c3af90$aaa18790$a3968351@mycomputer> <00ff01c3b0d8$895e50b0$11effea9@BRAINSAW> Message-ID: <006901c3b0e4$e97978b0$9dbd8351@mycomputer> unfortunately not, every band except prong is listed! can you beleive that ! i think someone at that website is having a laugh ! thansk anyway all thd best tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "DG" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > did you find it? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Bucknall" > To: > Sent: Thursday, 20 November, 2003 10:03 > Subject: Re: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > > > > thanks mate > > cheers tim > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "DG" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > > > > > > > I think you can find it on the CBGB web-site. damebo. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tim Bucknall" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 November, 2003 10:40 > > > Subject: [kj] not too O.T. Prong gigs > > > > > > > > > > anyone know a website where i can get a list of prong gigs? > > > > i need to tie down a date for a gig at CBGB's in 1989 > > > > many thanks in advance > > > > all the best tim > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gathering mailing list > > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 12:55:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:55:09 EST Subject: [kj] (no subject) Message-ID: --part1_fb.4a8e7b66.2cf0b6ad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The best banshees album imho would have to be tinderbox --part1_fb.4a8e7b66.2cf0b6ad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The best banshees album imho would have to be tin= derbox --part1_fb.4a8e7b66.2cf0b6ad_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 13:17:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:17:57 -0000 Subject: [kj] Tinderbox References: Message-ID: <003301c3b0fb$0c6c2640$18887ed4@mydomain.com> I always thought I was alone in being captivated by Tinderbox, being one of the later albums. Quite frankly, I'm not really keen on comparing albums as they all have certain qualities (with KJ even OTG ! Don't forget no OTG, probably no EDAVRE, at least in it's rough & ready state) but Tinderbox sure is a gorgeous record ... with a wonderful sleeve too ... * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:55 PM Subject: [kj] (no subject) > The best banshees album imho would have to be tinderbox > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 13:33:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jim=20Harper?=) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:33:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Neon Hearts and 1919 In-Reply-To: <000c01c3b096$1ac35de0$2f887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <20031122133324.93973.qmail@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-461786376-1069508004=:93663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hah! Antoni Adamiak wrote: ... also never heard the Neon Hearts ... --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-461786376-1069508004=:93663 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hah!

Antoni Adamiak <antoni@clara.net> wrote:

 ... also never heard the Neon Hearts ...

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-461786376-1069508004=:93663-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 13:48:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 05:48:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune In-Reply-To: <000801c3b0c8$75db4d00$5abf9b0c@dragonflke3gr5> Message-ID: <20031122134841.91530.qmail@web20212.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings Michael, --- MIchael wrote: > Aleph - great choice! I totally forgot about that > one. Fortuately it was re-released on the "Twice upon a Time" comp, otherwise I might've forgotten about it too! > Anyone seen the > nocturne video? I used to have that until someone > decided to record a porno > over it. (great porn though) I remember seeing it some years back and the tracklisting being different to the ablum. I don't recall the porn section of it though. > I was looking for you > at the Sf show with Tom > but never saw anyone that fit your description. It's because I'm invisible a good deal of the time. Which is a pretty good trick if you consider that I'm 6'3", redheaded, dressed head to toe in black, and am about 85% tattooed, including the ones on the neck and hands. ;) I spent the bulk of of the evening running between disparate groups of friends that I hadn't seen in Millenia. > You > happen to be goin gto > NMA oon tuerday at the DNA? Prolly naught. Perhaps we (The Bay Area Brethren) should organize a post gig Gathering? Tom, you up for it? A L P > > Cheers > > Michael > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Djehuti111" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:18 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > > > > --- Alex Smith wrote: > > > > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > > > I'm voting for the Orchestral version of > "Overground" > > from The Thorn E.P. > > > > Aleph in SF > > > > > > > > > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > >From: > > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > > > PAVEL > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > ===== > > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The > > darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, > the > > silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of > space, > > studded with secretive and significant stars, > formed a > > stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze > of > > the ceremony." > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 14:50:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Marcos=20Santiago?=) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:50:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune In-Reply-To: <200311211906.hALJ6Bcw026338@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031122145051.64295.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com> i would say--- green fingers---......... regards...Maurice in venezuela --- Alex Smith escribió: > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > Alex in NYC > > > > ---------- > >From: > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > PAVEL > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 15:19:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mik Raven) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:19:58 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune References: <20031122145051.64295.qmail@web41613.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c3b10c$18c69fe0$0200a8c0@Paulas> Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following Face to Face Interlude (with Morrissey) Murdering Mouth (with John Cale) Staircase Mystery And I could go on and on Here's a couple of gems from 1977 Bad Shape http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3 Psychic http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Psychic.mp3 Mik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Santiago" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > i would say--- green fingers---......... > > > regards...Maurice in venezuela > > > > --- Alex Smith escribió: > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > > > ---------- > > >From: > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > > PAVEL > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 15:50:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 15:50:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune In-Reply-To: <000801c3b10c$18c69fe0$0200a8c0@Paulas> Message-ID: <20031122155046.59123.qmail@web86109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-519814838-1069516246=:57604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dazzle is always nice also Mik Raven wrote:Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following Face to Face Interlude (with Morrissey) Murdering Mouth (with John Cale) Staircase Mystery And I could go on and on Here's a couple of gems from 1977 Bad Shape http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3 Psychic http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Psychic.mp3 Mik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Santiago" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > i would say--- green fingers---......... > > > regards...Maurice in venezuela > > > > --- Alex Smith escribió: > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > > > ---------- > > >From: > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > > PAVEL > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-519814838-1069516246=:57604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
dazzle is always nice also

Mik Raven <mik.raven@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following

Face to Face
Interlude (with Morrissey)
Murdering Mouth (with John Cale)
Staircase Mystery

And I could go on and on

Here's a couple of gems from 1977

Bad Shape

http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3

Psychic

http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Psychic.mp3

Mik

----- Original Message -----
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> i would say--- green fingers---.........
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> regards...Maurice in venezuela
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> > ----------
> > >From:
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> > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees.
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-519814838-1069516246=:57604-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 19:09:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Ford Prefect) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:09:27 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune/wedding march References: <20031122155046.59123.qmail@web86109.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <002201c29250$8cde19c0$0109000a@adsl> Message-ID: <004c01c3b12c$26a7bbb0$f7ea9151@sn7212787026> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C3B12C.2642DF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable love in a void,=20 as it featured in our wedding playlist, along with other classic wedding = ditties such as the pistols "no feelings", stranglers "ugly", buzzcocks = "ever fallen in love with someone..." etc etc. Thanks for the dj-ing Mark graham ----- Original Message -----=20 From: philip hughes=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune i,d have to go for arabian knights or happy house because of the = intro...simple but brilliant ----- Original Message -----=20 From: bluce ree=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune dazzle is always nice also Mik Raven wrote:=20 Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following Face to Face Interlude (with Morrissey) Murdering Mouth (with John Cale) Staircase Mystery And I could go on and on Here's a couple of gems from 1977 Bad Shape http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3 Psychic http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Psychic.mp3 Mik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Santiago"=20 To:=20 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > i would say--- green fingers---......... > > > regards...Maurice in venezuela > > > > --- Alex Smith escribi=F3: > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > > > Alex in NYC > >< BR>> > > > > > ---------- > > >From:=20 > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > > PAVEL > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Informaci=F3n de Estados Unidos y Am=E9rica Latina, en Yahoo! = Noticias. > Vis=EDtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! = Messenger = #########################################################################= ############ This Mail Was Scanned by 012.net Anti Virus Service - Powered by = TrendMicro Interscan =20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003 ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C3B12C.2642DF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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dazzle is always nice also

Mik Raven <mik.raven@dial.pipex.com>= =20 wrote:=20
Can't=20 narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the = following

Face to=20 Face
Interlude (with Morrissey)
Murdering Mouth (with John=20 Cale)
Staircase Mystery

And I could go on and = on

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Bad Shape

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Psychic

http://www.no35.dial.pi= pex.com/Psychic.mp3

Mik

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------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C3B12C.2642DF60-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 19:34:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alexi Hamilton) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:34:41 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT help from either UK or Australian Gatherers Message-ID:

   I'm not UK or Austrailia but I know the movie well..."Once there was a green monster and he ate a whole train full of obnoxious people..."  I'll look around for you.  I have it on VHS but I, too, would like it on DVD.  I'll go shopping for the both of us.  If not DVD, Is VHS good?  Let me know.

That movie rocks.

~Alexi




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>From: "Christof hamille"
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: [kj] OT help from either UK or Australian Gatherers
>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:49:05 -0500
>
>Hello one and all over the pond.
>
>I am desperatley looking for a copy of a movie "Dogs in Space"
>(starring a younger Michael Hutchense) for my wife. It is one her
>favorite movies and one copy we had is missing and the other one is
>barely watchable. The only copies I am able to find are bootlegs.
>Was there a legit DVD release? If so would someone be willing to
>send me a copy? I will of course pay for it and for your trouble.
>I know the regions are different but we are going to get a DVD that
>plays region 1 and 2 anyway.
>
>Thanks either way
>
>Chris
>
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Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 19:51:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:51:00 -0500 Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees Message-ID: <200311221952.hAMJq5gt009741@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152357460_32431_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit SLF "vastly superior" to the Banshees??? *HA!* The Stiff Little Fingers have one (count'em: 1) great, essential album (that being: INFLAMMABLE MATERIAL), but they were essentially one-trick-ponies after that. The Banshees, meanwhile, run sprints around Jake Burns' gruff, slackjawed crew with their style, versatility and innovation. In all truth, Siouxsie & the Banshees and Stiff Little Fingers are so completely different that comparisons are moot....they are the quintessence of apples and oranges. Comparing the two is like comparing Dr.Pepper to New Tide with Bleach. Alex in NYC ---------- From: GregSlawson@aol.com To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 1:09 AM It's funny, but a VASTLY SUPERIOR band, Stiff Little Fingers, also had an album called Tinderbox that came out in the mid to late 90s. --MS_Mac_OE_3152357460_32431_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] O/T Banshees
SLF "vastly superior" to the Banshees??? = *HA!* The Stiff Little Fingers have one (count'em: 1) gre= at, essential album (that being: INFLAMMABLE MATERIAL), but they were essent= ially one-trick-ponies after that. The Banshees, meanwhile, run sprints arou= nd Jake Burns' gruff, slackjawed crew with their style, versatility and inno= vation.

In all truth, Siouxsie & the Banshees and Stiff Little Fingers are so c= ompletely different that comparisons are moot....they are the quintessence o= f apples and oranges. Comparing the two is like comparing Dr.Pepper to New T= ide with Bleach.

Alex in NYC





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From: GregSlawson@aol.com
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees
Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 1:09 AM


It's funny, but a VASTLY SUPERIOR band, Stiff Li= ttle Fingers, also had an album called Tinderbox that came out in the mid to= late 90s.
--MS_Mac_OE_3152357460_32431_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 20:28:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Pagan) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:28:01 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? References: Message-ID: <00c001c3b137$20d5b560$d58a8351@goths> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C3B137.2002D500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Quitting smoking...complications????When I tried giving up (again!) = last year using Zyban, I had to attend a smoking cessation clinic. The = nurses advised us of the processes the body might go through after = stopping smoking. Developing a heavy productive cough was one of the = things as the lungs try to get rid of the crap that has built up there = over the years but they didn't mention a bloody discharge (then again = they were trying to encourage us so...). You might have just scratched = your throat when coughing (I did that few years ago) and the blood is = actually from there and not your lungs. I'd make an appointment if I was you though. Best of luck with the giving up. Claire ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jester=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? Ok folks, I recently quit smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far = as cravings and all that goes, I am having no issues. What I am = wondering, if any of you have quit, is are there some strange = complications, like very thick, bloody, discharge from the lungs, and a = deep cough, normal in the healing process, or should I get myself to the = hospital???? What I have been hacking up today has been pretty fucking = shocking... Uh...help!?!?! KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!=20 OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C3B137.2002D500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Quitting smoking...complications????
When I tried giving up (again!) last = year using=20 Zyban, I had to attend a smoking cessation clinic.  The nurses = advised us=20 of the processes the body might go through after stopping smoking.  = Developing a heavy productive cough was one of the things as the lungs = try to=20 get rid of the crap that has built up there over the years but they = didn't=20 mention a bloody discharge (then again they were trying to encourage us=20 so...).  You might have just scratched your throat when coughing (I = did=20 that few years ago) and the blood is actually from there and not your=20 lungs.
 
I'd make an appointment if I was you=20 though.
 
Best of luck with the giving = up.
 
Claire
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jester
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 6:56=20 PM
Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting=20 smoking...complications????

Ok = folks, I=20 recently quit smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far as cravings = and all=20 that goes, I am having no issues. What I am wondering, if any of you = have=20 quit, is are there some strange complications, like very thick, = bloody,=20 discharge from the lungs, and a deep cough, normal in the healing = process, or=20 should I get myself to the hospital???? What I have been hacking up = today has=20 been pretty fucking=20 shocking...

Uh...help!?!?!



KEEPING THE FIRE=20 ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER, =
JESTER=20
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C3B137.2002D500-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 20:31:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (death wish) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:31:40 +0000 Subject: [kj] that clown.... Message-ID: Colesey, Aplologies if this has already been covered, but where did you get that delightful clown on the cover of the unperverted pantomime from? (The clown on the left, I mean. Ho ho ho - Merry Christmas!) T. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 20:40:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Pagan) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:40:15 -0000 Subject: [kj] Tinderbox References: <003301c3b0fb$0c6c2640$18887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <019601c3b139$27c41540$d58a8351@goths> Got to agree on both points... the album and the cover are both fantastic (and when you're done with that poster Antoni, you know who to pass it to!). Although some other personal favourites would have to be: Monitor Pulled to Bits Carcass Scarecrow Dazzle Cocoon Icon Blow the House Down Red Light The list could go on... Did anyone manage to catch Siouxsie on T4 last Sunday doing some daft interview with Mel B? I saw it advertised but never actually saw it. Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoni Adamiak" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Tinderbox > I always thought I was alone in being captivated by Tinderbox, being one of > the later albums. Quite frankly, I'm not really keen on comparing albums as > they all have certain qualities (with KJ even OTG ! Don't forget no OTG, > probably no EDAVRE, at least in it's rough & ready state) but Tinderbox sure > is a gorgeous record ... with a wonderful sleeve too ... > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:55 PM > Subject: [kj] (no subject) > > > > The best banshees album imho would have to be tinderbox > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 21:11:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:11:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees In-Reply-To: <200311221952.hAMJq5gt009741@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031122211117.27382.qmail@web86106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1271355262-1069535477=:26261 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit but surely that would have the same taste as Diet Dr Pepper? Alex Smith wrote: SLF "vastly superior" to the Banshees??? *HA!* The Stiff Little Fingers have one (count'em: 1) great, essential album (that being: INFLAMMABLE MATERIAL), but they were essentially one-trick-ponies after that. The Banshees, meanwhile, run sprints around Jake Burns' gruff, slackjawed crew with their style, versatility and innovation. In all truth, Siouxsie & the Banshees and Stiff Little Fingers are so completely different that comparisons are moot....they are the quintessence of apples and oranges. Comparing the two is like comparing Dr.Pepper to New Tide with Bleach. Alex in NYC ---------- From: GregSlawson@aol.com To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 1:09 AM It's funny, but a VASTLY SUPERIOR band, Stiff Little Fingers, also had an album called Tinderbox that came out in the mid to late 90s. --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1271355262-1069535477=:26261 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
but surely that would have the same taste as Diet Dr Pepper?

Alex Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:

SLF "vastly superior" to the Banshees??? *HA!* The Stiff Little Fingers have one (count'em: 1) great, essential album (that being: INFLAMMABLE MATERIAL), but they were essentially one-trick-ponies after that. The Banshees, meanwhile, run sprints around Jake Burns' gruff, slackjawed crew with their style, versatility and innovation.

In all truth, Siouxsie & the Banshees and Stiff Little Fingers are so completely different that comparisons are moot....they are the quintessence of apples and oranges. Comparing the two is like comparing Dr.Pepper to New Tide with Bleach.

Alex in NYC





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From: GregSlawson@aol.com
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees
Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 1:09 AM


It's funny, but a VASTLY SUPERIOR band, Stiff Little Fingers, also had an album called Tinderbox that came out in the mid to late 90s.

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1271355262-1069535477=:26261-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 21:16:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (peter.west410) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:16:45 -0000 Subject: [kj] I lost 9 stone of useless fat overnight Message-ID: <003701c3b13e$069654f0$f8086851@yourby3nr533ht> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C3B13D.EEB07910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I GOT A DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!! ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C3B13D.EEB07910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I GOT A=20 DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C3B13D.EEB07910-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 21:16:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (peter.west410) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:16:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] I lost 9 stone of useless fat overnight Message-ID: <003801c3b13e$08163e30$f8086851@yourby3nr533ht> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C3B13D.F27151A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I GOT A DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!! ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C3B13D.F27151A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I GOT A=20 DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C3B13D.F27151A0-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 21:19:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (peter.west410) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:19:01 -0000 Subject: [kj] I lost 8 stone of useless fat overnight Message-ID: <004301c3b13e$40675b70$f8086851@yourby3nr533ht> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C3B13E.3FB6F730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I GOT A DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!! ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C3B13E.3FB6F730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I GOT A=20 DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C3B13E.3FB6F730-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 22:26:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:26:58 -0000 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <004f01c3b147$bed48920$245c08c3@mydomain.com> Hello folks, Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next Sunday ? I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea vs Man United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet but our list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude not to. *** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it *** Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Misera" To: "Antoni Adamiak" Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: Re: a gathering ? > ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game in some > pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-) > > cheers, > -andy > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from 1st-4th Dec then > > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) - so > > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the 30th, which of > > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the Chelsea vs Man > > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, Jamie & me on > > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ? > > > > Regards, > > > > Antoni > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 22:36:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:22 -0000 Subject: [kj] Tinderbox References: <003301c3b0fb$0c6c2640$18887ed4@mydomain.com> <019601c3b139$27c41540$d58a8351@goths> Message-ID: <005e01c3b149$0e76c6e0$245c08c3@mydomain.com> Sorry Claire but I'll never get rid of that beautiful poster although I've been told that I've gotta stick it in a proper picture frame ... along with at least four of Colesy's masterpieces ... in due course ... in due course ... * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pagan" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Tinderbox > Got to agree on both points... the album and the cover are both fantastic > (and when you're done with that poster Antoni, you know who to pass it to!). > Although some other personal favourites would have to be: > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 22:38:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:38:22 -0000 Subject: [kj] I lost 8 stone of useless fat overnight References: <004301c3b13e$40675b70$f8086851@yourby3nr533ht> Message-ID: <002c01c3b149$56595590$fae687d9@mycomputer> Not 9 stone this time? Maybe you should cut your own head off to make up the weight you didn't lose. I GOT A DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!! From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 22:56:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:56:06 EST Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees Message-ID: --part1_a8.25675fe0.2cf14386_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's true, SLF and Siouxie are different. SLF reformed in 1990 and has made 4 decent albums since then, staying true to their original sound, style and politics (without the flare of "Inflammable" or course, but who except KJ can match their origingal sound and mission?). But I don't see what is so great about Siouxie. I only have heard her hits (Christine, Peek-a-Boo, Spellbound, and maybe a few others) but I don't see what the big deal is. I'd prefer the Cure, who at least made some cathchy pop songs as well as some moody stuff. Wanna fill me in? --part1_a8.25675fe0.2cf14386_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's true, SLF and Siouxie are different. SLF reform= ed in 1990 and has made 4 decent albums since then, staying true to their or= iginal sound, style and politics (without the flare of "Inflammable" or cour= se, but who except KJ can match their origingal sound and mission?). But I d= on't see what is so great about Siouxie. I only have heard her hits (Christi= ne, Peek-a-Boo, Spellbound, and maybe a few others) but I don't see what the= big deal is. I'd prefer the Cure, who at least made some cathchy pop songs=20= as well as some moody stuff. Wanna fill me in? --part1_a8.25675fe0.2cf14386_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 22:59:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:59:01 EST Subject: [kj] that clown.... Message-ID: <57.25545668.2cf14435@aol.com> --part1_57.25545668.2cf14435_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a cassette-only, ltd. 2000 edition copy of the original "Unperverted Pantomine", which Jaz and Geordie signed in 1994 at a record store. Anyone else have the cassette? How hard is it to find? --part1_57.25545668.2cf14435_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a cassette-only, ltd. 2000 edition copy of the=20= original "Unperverted Pantomine", which Jaz and Geordie signed in 1994 at a=20= record store. Anyone else have the cassette? How hard is it to find?<= /HTML> --part1_57.25545668.2cf14435_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 22 23:42:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (peter.west410) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:42:45 -0000 Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD Message-ID: <000f01c3b152$54fc95a0$ee6cff3e@yourby3nr533ht> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3B152.541A24E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3B152.541A24E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3B152.541A24E0-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 00:00:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:00:10 -0500 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <4A7E18CF.5095F40D.0004DF86@aol.com> Might be able to swing it... Where's Jel these days? Jamie From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 03:27:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:27:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD In-Reply-To: <000f01c3b152$54fc95a0$ee6cff3e@yourby3nr533ht> Message-ID: <20031123032701.58146.qmail@web80407.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1792804271-1069558021=:57791 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That sucks.... Tom. "peter.west410" wrote: --0-1792804271-1069558021=:57791 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
That sucks....
 
Tom.
 


"peter.west410" <peter.west410@ntlworld.com> wrote:
 
--0-1792804271-1069558021=:57791-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 03:33:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:33:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: NMA/gathering In-Reply-To: <20031122134841.91530.qmail@web20212.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031123033338.60938.qmail@web80407.mail.yahoo.com> --0-144634098-1069558418=:58748 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Absolutely, I'm down..... I might make it to the show if I can convince myself to not blow all my cash before then. Not a huge NMA fan, but I suppose they're worth seeing. I've seen DAVID J. before - his stuff's weird, but what the hell he was in BAUHAUS! :) Tom. p.s. I might be at Deathguild on Monday too... Djehuti111 wrote: Greetings Michael, --- MIchael wrote: > Aleph - great choice! I totally forgot about that > one. Fortuately it was re-released on the "Twice upon a Time" comp, otherwise I might've forgotten about it too! > Anyone seen the > nocturne video? I used to have that until someone > decided to record a porno > over it. (great porn though) I remember seeing it some years back and the tracklisting being different to the ablum. I don't recall the porn section of it though. > I was looking for you > at the Sf show with Tom > but never saw anyone that fit your description. It's because I'm invisible a good deal of the time. Which is a pretty good trick if you consider that I'm 6'3", redheaded, dressed head to toe in black, and am about 85% tattooed, including the ones on the neck and hands. ;) I spent the bulk of of the evening running between disparate groups of friends that I hadn't seen in Millenia. > You > happen to be goin gto > NMA oon tuerday at the DNA? Prolly naught. Perhaps we (The Bay Area Brethren) should organize a post gig Gathering? Tom, you up for it? A L P > > Cheers > > Michael > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Djehuti111" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:18 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > > > > --- Alex Smith wrote: > > > > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > > > I'm voting for the Orchestral version of > "Overground" > > from The Thorn E.P. > > > > Aleph in SF > > > > > > > > > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > >From: > > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > > > PAVEL > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > ===== > > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The > > darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, > the > > silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of > space, > > studded with secretive and significant stars, > formed a > > stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze > of > > the ceremony." > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --0-144634098-1069558418=:58748 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
<Perhaps we (The Bay Area Brethren) should organize a
post gig Gathering?

Tom, you up for it?>
 
Absolutely, I'm down.....    I might make it to the show if I can convince myself to not blow all my cash before then.  Not a huge NMA fan, but I suppose they're worth seeing.   I've seen DAVID J. before - his stuff's weird, but what the hell he was in BAUHAUS!  :)
Tom.
 
p.s.  I might be at Deathguild on Monday too...


Djehuti111 <djehuti111@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greetings Michael,

--- MIchael wrote:
> Aleph - great choice! I totally forgot about that
> one.

Fortuately it was re-released on the "Twice upon a
Time" comp, otherwise I might've forgotten about it
too!

> Anyone seen the
> nocturne video? I used to have that until someone
> decided to record a porno
> over it. (great porn though)

I remember seeing it some years back and the
tracklisting being different to the ablum.
I don't recall the porn section of it though.

> I was looking for you
> at the Sf show with Tom
> but never saw anyone that fit your description.

It's because I'm invisible a good deal of the time.
Which is a pretty good trick if you consider that I'm
6'3", redheaded, dressed head to toe in black, and am
about 85% tattooed, including the ones on the neck and
hands. ;)

I spent the bulk of of the evening running between
disparate groups of friends that I hadn't seen in
Millenia.

> You
> happen to be goin gto
> NMA oon tuerday at the DNA?

Prolly naught.
Perhaps we (The Bay Area Brethren) should organize a
post gig Gathering?

Tom, you up for it?

A L P


>
> Cheers
>
> Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Djehuti111"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune
>
>
> > --- Alex Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself.
> >
> > I'm voting for the Orchestral version of
> "Overground"
> > from The Thorn E.P.
> >
> > Aleph in SF
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Alex in NYC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > >From:
> > > >To: gathering@misera.net
> > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)
> > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100
> > > >
> > >
> > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees.
> > > PAVEL
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Gathering mailing list
> > > Gathering@misera.net
> > >
> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> >
> >
> > =====
> > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The
> > darkness, the palms, the mountainous background,
> the
> > silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of
> space,
> > studded with secretive and significant stars,
> formed a
> > stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze
> of
> > the ceremony."
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
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> > Gathering@misera.net
> >
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> >
>
>
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=====
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darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the
silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space,
studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a
stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of
the ceremony."

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--0-144634098-1069558418=:58748-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 04:02:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:02:52 -0600 Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD In-Reply-To: <20031123032701.58146.qmail@web80407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152383374_11992406 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This is fucking horrible news. Keep the driver and his family in your minds, and in your hearts, please. !HONOUR THE FIRE! On 11/22/03 9:27 PM, "Thomas Kennedy" wrote: > That sucks.... > > Tom. > > > > "peter.west410" wrote: >> > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM --B_3152383374_11992406 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] DISTASTER  IN  OZ SEE  MESSAGE  BOARD</= TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>This is fucking horribl= e news. Keep the driver and his family in your minds, and in your hearts, pl= ease.<BR> <BR> !HONOUR THE FIRE!<BR> <BR> On 11/22/03 9:27 PM, "Thomas Kennedy" <tkennedy1999@sbcglobal.= net> wrote:<BR> <BR> </SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0p= x'>That sucks....<BR>  <BR> Tom.<BR>  <BR> <BR> <BR> <B><I>"peter.west410" <peter.west410@ntlworld.com></I></B> = wrote:<BR> </SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0p= x'> <BR> </SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0= px'><BR> </SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0= px'><BR> <BR> </SPAN></FONT><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Killing Joke1st al= bum"><I>KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! <BR> OCCISIO LOCATIO <BR> <BR> THE WEBMASTER, <BR> JESTER <BR> WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM<BR> WWW.PARALLAX1.COM <BR> </I></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><BR> </FONT></SPAN> </BODY> </HTML> --B_3152383374_11992406-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 09:14:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:14:37 -0900 Subject: [kj] that clown.... References: <57.25545668.2cf14435@aol.com> Message-ID: <006801c3b1a2$38d7f040$0b9f70d1@antifrz> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C3B156.C7D2F160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable we have that. not sure how hard it is to find but ours isn;t signed. kara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: GregSlawson@aol.com=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [kj] that clown.... I have a cassette-only, ltd. 2000 edition copy of the original = "Unperverted Pantomine", which Jaz and Geordie signed in 1994 at a = record store. Anyone else have the cassette? How hard is it to find? ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C3B156.C7D2F160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>we have that. not sure how hard it is = to find but=20 ours isn;t signed.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>kara</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3DGregSlawson@aol.com=20 href=3D"mailto:GregSlawson@aol.com">GregSlawson@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dgathering@misera.net=20 href=3D"mailto:gathering@misera.net">gathering@misera.net</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 22, = 2003 1:59=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kj] that = clown....</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 = face=3DArial size=3D2=20 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">I have a cassette-only, ltd. 2000 edition copy of = the=20 original "Unperverted Pantomine", which Jaz and Geordie signed in 1994 = at a=20 record store. Anyone else have the cassette? How hard is it to = find?</FONT>=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C3B156.C7D2F160-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 09:35:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:35:07 EST Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune Message-ID: <131.271a74ac.2cf1d94b@aol.com> --part1_131.271a74ac.2cf1d94b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 21/11/03 11:11:22 Pacific Standard Time, vassifer@earthlink.net writes: > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > Voodoo Dolly! --part1_131.271a74ac.2cf1d94b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 21/11/03 11:11:22 Pacific Standard=20= Time, vassifer@earthlink.net writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'd say "Spellbound," myself.<B= R> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR>     Voodoo Dolly!</FONT></HTML> --part1_131.271a74ac.2cf1d94b_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 09:47:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 04:47:21 EST Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <e.38caff2b.2cf1dc29@aol.com> --part1_e.38caff2b.2cf1dc29_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 22/11/03 16:02:29 Pacific Standard Time, Jpwhkj@aol.com writes: > Where's Jel these days? > > Been extremely busy looking after the Mrs. old chap , working (diversifying the business) , alcohol sampling and of course watching the greatest football team the world has ever seen and trying to sort me poota out as Mrs. Jelbod, computer expert she thinks she is, buggered it. A Gathering?...sounds good. --part1_e.38caff2b.2cf1dc29_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 22/11/03 16:02:29 Pacific Standard=20= Time, Jpwhkj@aol.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Where's Jel these days?<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR>     Been extremely busy looking after the Mrs. old chap , wor= king (diversifying the business) , alcohol sampling and of course watching t= he greatest football team the world has ever seen and trying to sort me poot= a out as Mrs. Jelbod, computer expert she thinks she is, buggered it.<BR> <BR>   A Gathering?...sounds good.</FONT></HTML> --part1_e.38caff2b.2cf1dc29_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 10:21:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Lambeth) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 02:21:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] XLd Sydney - Useless Ted In-Reply-To: <006c01c3b09b$c1e4e990$826f8a3f@Joker> Message-ID: <20031123102145.52067.qmail@web41203.mail.yahoo.com> Ah, I'm just about over it... Just about. -S --- Dave Axford <daxford@rogers.com> wrote: > > Yikes!... Scott, I am so sorry to hear that. That > indeed is a very serious drag. > > > > Oh, Ted wasn't there? Delayed was he? Couldn't > get a > > cab to the airport? > > > > Fuckin' prick cost me a flight from Canberra to > Sydney > > & a nights accommodation (in a town hosting the > rugby > > world cup tonight you can bet the accommodation > wasn't > > cheap). I hope his excuse was good. > > > > NO, I didn't see the Joke & now chances are that I > > never will. I found out after I'd gotten off the > > plane to Sydney that they'd postponed until the > > following night. No fucking good to me, I had to > fly > > to Adelaide the next morning, where I am now. For > a > > gig starting at 7:30pm they chose 6:30pm to make > the > > announcement. Mongrels. > > > > So, Michele (who'd flown in from Melbourne, poor > > bastard) and I went out for a few beers and a feed > > instead so it wasn't a complete loss... > > > > But, in the absence of a decent excuse, the Joke, > > their promotors and good ol' Ted can be thought of > as > > useless fucks who couldn't organise a shout in a > pub. > > > > -S > > > > ~Analysis, Paralysis~ > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 10:43:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:43:13 +0000 Subject: [kj] clown on the left, joker to the right Message-ID: <a05100300bbe63973cc35@[81.130.53.95]> --============_-1142538299==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Trevor writ: Aplologies if this has already been covered, but where did you get that delightful clown on the cover of the unperverted pantomime from? That delightful clown was lifted from an old book entitled "Photograms of the Year 1938" - The annual review of the world's pictorial photographic work. The photo was titled "The Clown" and was taken by Paul Shillabeer (Eastbourne). First used on what's THIS for...! And, yes, I have got an original copy of the cassette. Sundays is a bad night for external gathering from malicious towers, although if I can sneak out around 9-ish I will. Let me know if it's definitely The Churchill. Has anyone heard any more about this accident in OZ? It looks like a wind-up, and a sick one if it is. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142538299==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li { padding-top: 0 ; padding-bottom: 0 } --></style><title>clown on the left, joker to the right
Trevor writ:
Aplologies if this has already been covered, but where did you get that delightful clown on the cover of the unperverted pantomime from?

That delightful clown was lifted from an old book entitled "Photograms of the Year 1938" - The annual review of the world's pictorial photographic work. The photo was titled "The Clown" and was taken by Paul Shillabeer (Eastbourne). First used on what's THIS for...!

And, yes, I have got an original copy of the cassette.

Sundays is a bad night for external gathering from malicious towers, although if I can sneak out around 9-ish I will. Let me know if it's definitely The Churchill.

Has anyone heard any more about this accident in OZ?
It looks like a wind-up, and a sick one if it is.

cheers,
colesy


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--============_-1142538299==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 11:08:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:08:37 -0600 Subject: [kj] clown on the left, joker to the right In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152408918_47602 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 11/23/03 4:43 AM, "mike coles" wrote: > > Has anyone heard any more about this accident in OZ? > It looks like a wind-up, and a sick one if it is. > > cheers, > colesy > Well, about the only thing I can confirm at the moment is that the IP address that the person posted from (203.221.30.176) is from Melbourne, like they said. So, that may or may not add some validity to the original poster. Another poster added this link to a story about some accidents... http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7944805%255E1702,00.html I dunno....cant figure WHY someone would lie about something like this, though. Like ya said Colesy, if it is a wind up, tis a sick one. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" --B_3152408918_47602 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] clown on the left, joker to the right On 11/23/03 4:43 AM, &q= uot;mike coles" <mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk> wrote:


Has anyone heard any more about this accident in OZ?
It looks like a wind-up, and a sick one if it is.

cheers,
colesy

Well, about the only thing I can confirm at the moment is that the IP ad= dress that the person posted from (203.221.30.176) is from Melbo= urne, like they said. So, that may or may not add some validity to the origi= nal poster.

Another poster added this link to a story about some accidents...
http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7944805%255E1702,00.html=

I dunno....cant figure WHY someone would lie about something like this, tho= ugh. Like ya said Colesy, if it is a wind up, tis a sick one.
 KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

There is no place like 127.0.0.1

"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows o= r Gates?"
 --B_3152408918_47602-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 13:24:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:24:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Clermont '84 bootleg and cover version archive Message-ID: <20031123140423.K46870-100000@mother.brap.dk> http://despair.curious.be:10875/Clermont/ 24 May 1984, the files are BADASS huge (320kbits) but i couldn't be arsed to reencode them, take 'em or leave 'em. Sound is average, Jaz's blubber is quite fun, not exactly a recording i would crank every day but i have never seen it around elsewhere so i thought i'd offer it to you freaks out there. Slightly overtuned but plenty of Geordie on it after a few songs. It will be there for THREE DAYS ONLY since the server needs an overhaul. This means that the cover versions archive will be down for a while too. I suggest you grab all you can as soon as possible and help eachother fill out the blanks, so to speak. The cover versions will be back up, but i cannot say when or where just yet. OK Night Time (track 01 of the Clermont bootleg) is up, i suggest that if you grab the files while i upload them, stay away from the last track until the last track is 15 - Wardance and it is 9'633'792 bytes large. If you have no clue what this means, just wait a day and then grab 'em all. For clarity's (sanity's ?) sake: 11'773'952 01 - Night Time.mp3 10'586'112 02 - Sun Goes Down.mp3 10'360'832 03 - Tabazan.mp3 8'906'752 04 - The Wait.mp3 11'833'344 05 - Darkness Before Dawn.mp3 9'930'752 06 - Kings And Queens.mp3 8'505'344 07 - Complications.mp3 6'871'040 08 - Requiem.mp3 8'325'120 09 - Bloodsport.mp3 11'046'912 10 - Love Like Blood.mp3 8'966'144 11 - Tension.mp3 10'348'544 12 - Change.mp3 11'134'976 13 - Pssyche.mp3 8'325'120 14 - Eighties.mp3 9'633'792 15 - Wardance.mp3 Another service proudly (unknowingly) sponsored by my employer and friendly people on eDonkey. Don't fucking take the red one. Optimistic people have a lack of useful information. Caveat emptor. Play loud or not at all. And DON'T FUCKING MENTION FIGHT CLUB! b drunk as a Finnish moose who just found a back yard home distillery "mooooh! this gotta be alcohol!" PS: Cover versions archive at http://despair.curious.be:10875/ get 'em while they're hot! From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 14:03:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phil) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:03:38 +0000 Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD In-Reply-To: References: <20031123032701.58146.qmail@web80407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6gf1svsqun1j1edfh194ra6a7lbqc6338b@4ax.com> whats the story here? I cant see anything on the message board, unless im looking in the wrong place...... On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:02:52 -0600, you wrote: >This is fucking horrible news. Keep the driver and his family in your = minds, >and in your hearts, please. > >!HONOUR THE FIRE! > >On 11/22/03 9:27 PM, "Thomas Kennedy" = wrote: > >> That sucks.... >> =20 >> Tom. >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >> "peter.west410" wrote: >>> =20 >>=20 > > >KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! >OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 > >THE WEBMASTER,=20 >JESTER=20 >WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM >WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 > From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 14:38:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:38:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <1989199.1069598339273.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> sorry can't do it, I work on Sunday nights Have a small sherry for me N > from: Antoni Adamiak > date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:26:58 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? > > Hello folks, > > Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next Sunday ? > I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea vs Man > United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet but our > list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude not to. > *** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it *** > > Regards, > > Antoni > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andreas Misera" > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > > > ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game in some > > pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-) > > > > cheers, > > -andy > > > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > > > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from 1st-4th Dec > then > > > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) - so > > > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the 30th, which > of > > > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the Chelsea vs > Man > > > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, Jamie & me > on > > > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Antoni > > > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM > > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 14:57:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:57:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] [OT] okay THIS is sport! Message-ID: <20031123155626.U46870-100000@mother.brap.dk> http://flash.trojangames.co.uk/tgames/movies/movie2.html There's also a 1 and 3 but this is the best IMO. b From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:00:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mik Raven) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:00:53 -0000 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? References: <004f01c3b147$bed48920$245c08c3@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <009b01c3b1d2$9aed5740$0200a8c0@Paulas> Sunday night is just not possible for a non London gatherer who has to go to work on Monday morning. Mik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoni Adamiak" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:26 PM Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? > Hello folks, > > Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next Sunday ? > I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea vs Man > United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet but our > list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude not to. > *** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it *** > > Regards, > > Antoni > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andreas Misera" > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > > > ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game in some > > pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-) > > > > cheers, > > -andy > > > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > > > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from 1st-4th Dec > then > > > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) - so > > > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the 30th, which > of > > > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the Chelsea vs > Man > > > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, Jamie & me > on > > > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Antoni > > > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM > > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:05:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:05:57 -0500 Subject: [kj] that clown.... Message-ID: <200311231506.hANF6acw014548@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152426757_20612_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I have it (though without the autographs). Bought it in Columbus, Ohio (of all places), hidden away in a dusty cassette case. Haven't seen it in a while (or any other cassettes for sale, for that matter). Alex in NYC ---------- From: GregSlawson@aol.com To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] that clown.... Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 5:59 PM I have a cassette-only, ltd. 2000 edition copy of the original "Unperverted Pantomine", which Jaz and Geordie signed in 1994 at a record store. Anyone else have the cassette? How hard is it to find? --MS_Mac_OE_3152426757_20612_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] that clown....
I have it (though without the autographs). Bought it in Columbus, Ohio (of = all places), hidden away in a dusty cassette case. Haven't seen it in a whil= e (or any other cassettes for sale, for that matter).



Alex in NYC


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From: GregSlawson@aol.com
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] that clown....
Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 5:59 PM


I have a cassette-only, ltd. 2000 edition copy o= f the original "Unperverted Pantomine", which Jaz and Geordie sign= ed in 1994 at a record store. Anyone else have the cassette? How hard is it = to find?
--MS_Mac_OE_3152426757_20612_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:09:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:09:39 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune Message-ID: <200311231509.hANF6ad2014548@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152426979_33950_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit JEL! Where ya been? Alex in NYC ---------- From: Jelbod@aol.com To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 4:35 AM In a message dated 21/11/03 11:11:22 Pacific Standard Time, vassifer@earthlink.net writes: I'd say "Spellbound," myself. Voodoo Dolly! --MS_Mac_OE_3152426979_33950_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune
JEL! Where ya been?

Alex in NYC


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From: Jelbod@aol.com
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune
Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 4:35 AM


In a message dated 21/11/03 11:11:22 Pacific Sta= ndard Time, vassifer@earthlink.net write= s:

I'd say "Spellbound," myself.


    Voodoo Dolly!
--MS_Mac_OE_3152426979_33950_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:13:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:13:18 -0500 Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD Message-ID: <200311231513.hANFDCcw020459@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152427199_47156_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I've never had any luck navigating the message board. What's happened? Alex in NYC ---------- From: "peter.west410" To: Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 6:42 PM --MS_Mac_OE_3152427199_47156_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD
I've never had any luck navigating the message board. What's happened?

Alex in NYC


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From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410@ntlworld.com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: [kj] DISTASTER  IN  OZ SEE  MESSAGE  BOARD
Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 6:42 PM


 

--MS_Mac_OE_3152427199_47156_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:14:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:14:36 -0000 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? References: <004f01c3b147$bed48920$245c08c3@mydomain.com> <009b01c3b1d2$9aed5740$0200a8c0@Paulas> Message-ID: <007401c3b1d4$82f3ba60$da887ed4@mydomain.com> Agreed. I guess it would be better all round to make it Saturday 6th December 2003, and that gives everyone an extra week to sort out their own arrangements. I think that the 6th Decemeber is the last evening that Andreas is in the big smoke. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mik Raven" To: Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? > Sunday night is just not possible for a non London gatherer who has to go to > work on Monday morning. > > Mik > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Antoni Adamiak" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:26 PM > Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? > > > > Hello folks, > > > > Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next Sunday ? > > I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea vs > Man > > United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet but > our > > list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude not to. > > *** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it *** > > > > Regards, > > > > Antoni > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > > > > > > ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game in > some > > > pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-) > > > > > > cheers, > > > -andy > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > > > > > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from 1st-4th Dec > > then > > > > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) - so > > > > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the 30th, > which > > of > > > > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the Chelsea vs > > Man > > > > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, Jamie & me > > on > > > > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Antoni > > > > > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM > > > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:14:09 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:14:09 -0500 Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD Message-ID: <200311231514.hANFDCd0020459@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152427249_50180_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Oh wait,....you mean this? (I thought you meant Jester's board): Posted by mad aussie joker!!!! on November 22, 2003 at 23:02:15: (203.221.30.176) I shall be writing up a full report on all gigs, meetings with the band and my flight sitting right next to Jaz from Brisbane to Melbourne very soon - I am still recovering from the most amazing experience. However it is now time to mourn. Jaz told me on the plane (during consumption of copious amounts of scotch and chardonnay in Business Class) that the driver of the truck shipping all their equipment was killed in a head on collision whilst driving from Bris bane to Melbourne. All their equipment, including Geordies Gold has been smashed. As Jaz concluded - who gives a fuck about the equipment. A life has been tragically lost, and the gig tonight in Melbourne (where I am now) will probably be cancelled. Maybe, maybe not...it is up in the air, but in the worst case scenario, Jaz said he would runa spoken word gig, in homage of the killed driver. A cruel blow to a life and to the spirit of the Joke. We are The Faithful. Madaussiejoker!!! ---------- From: "Alex Smith" To: gathering@misera.net , gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 10:13 AM I've never had any luck navigating the message board. What's happened? Alex in NYC ---------- From: "peter.west410" To: Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 6:42 PM --MS_Mac_OE_3152427249_50180_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD
Oh wait,....you mean this? (I thought you meant Jester's board):

Posted by mad aussie joker!!!! on November 22, 2003 at 23:02:15: (203.221.3= 0.176)

I shall be writing up a full report on all gigs, meetings with the band and= my flight sitting right next to Jaz from
Brisbane to Melbourne very soon - I am still recovering from the most amazi= ng experience.

However it is now time to mourn. Jaz told me on the plane (during consumpti= on of copious amounts of scotch
and chardonnay in Business Class) that the driver of the truck shipping all= their equipment was killed in a
head on collision whilst driving from Bris bane to Melbourne. All their equ= ipment, including Geordies Gold has
been smashed.

As Jaz concluded - who gives a fuck about the equipment. A life has been tr= agically lost, and the gig tonight in
Melbourne (where I am now) will probably be cancelled. Maybe, maybe not...i= t is up in the air, but in the worst
case scenario, Jaz said he would runa spoken word gig, in homage of the kil= led driver.

A cruel blow to a life and to the spirit of the Joke.

We are The Faithful.

Madaussiejoker!!!



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From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net>
To: gathering@misera.net , gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] DISTASTER  IN  OZ SEE  MESSAGE  BOARD=
Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 10:13 AM



I've never had any luck navigating the message board. What's happened?

Alex in NYC


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From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410@= ntlworld.com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: [kj] DISTASTER  IN  OZ SEE  MESSAGE  BOARD
Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 6:42 PM


 


--MS_Mac_OE_3152427249_50180_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:19:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:19:03 -0000 Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD References: <200311231513.hANFDCcw020459@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <008001c3b1d5$21601040$da887ed4@mydomain.com> >From the latest update, it does appear that the posting sadly was based in fact. http://www.misera.net/gathering/board/messages/5208.html Posted by Cypher on November 23, 2003 at 15:06:46: (203.166.96.236) In Reply to: JUST LEFT MELBOURNE SOUNDCHECK posted by Chris on November 23, 2003 at 08:32:08: : No problem there everything as per planned. : See you all there It is now 2.01 am and we have just arrived home, 1. The rumours of an accident were true, two of the travelling party did tragically lose their lives, Jaz dedicated tonights show to them after the opening song "Communion" 2. The band rocked, truly an inspired performance, as I have had way too much beer all I can say is great selection of songs , great crowd interaction (apart from Jaz's "losing the rugby world cup" wind up to us aussies) and good numbers at the show (500-600 on a Sunday night in Melbourne is fantastic) 3. Don't let it be another 18 years until we see you again. Keep the faith Jason ***************************** Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Smith" To: ; Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD > > I've never had any luck navigating the message board. What's happened? > > Alex in NYC > > > ---------- > From: "peter.west410" > To: > Subject: [kj] DISTASTER IN OZ SEE MESSAGE BOARD > Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 6:42 PM > > > > > From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:24:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:24:49 -0500 Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees Message-ID: <200311231524.hANFOhcw004740@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152427889_88720_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hey again, Greg.... I saw the reformed SLF (with Bruce "Jam" Foxton on bass) a number of years back at since-closed-down (and turned into a hip hop club) Tramp's,...and yes, they were great, but I've never felt motivated to hear their newer stuff. If you think I should check'em out, I shall. In terms of the Banshees, I would just say not to be swayed by their later, poppier stuff (though I happen to dig that stuff, myself). The original Banshees (with John McKay on guitar and Kenny Morris on drums) were a much angrier beast without much of a care for pop accessbility. Both THE SCREAM and JOIN HANDS are brash, icy blasts of truly unique, uncomprimising music (and they make INFLAMMABLE MATERIAL sound like fuckin' Abba in terms of pop-accessibility), and I cannot recommend them highly enough. ONCE UPON A TIME (the first singles compilation) isn't a bad place to start either, but it leans heavily towards the John McGeoch years (the band's second official guitarist, ex of Magazine/Visage and later of PiL fame). Robert Smith, of course, played with them as well (in two periods, though his tenure is only captured on record on HYAENA and the live NOCTURNE), but I never felt he really defined himself whilst in the band, sound-wise (though he clearly took a lot of tonsorial advice from Ms.Sioux). Alex in NYC ---------- From: GregSlawson@aol.com To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 5:56 PM That's true, SLF and Siouxie are different. SLF reformed in 1990 and has made 4 decent albums since then, staying true to their original sound, style and politics (without the flare of "Inflammable" or course, but who except KJ can match their origingal sound and mission?). But I don't see what is so great about Siouxie. I only have heard her hits (Christine, Peek-a-Boo, Spellbound, and maybe a few others) but I don't see what the big deal is. I'd prefer the Cure, who at least made some cathchy pop songs as well as some moody stuff. Wanna fill me in? --MS_Mac_OE_3152427889_88720_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] O/T Banshees
Hey again, Greg....

I saw the reformed SLF (with Bruce "Jam" Foxton on bass) a number= of years back at since-closed-down (and turned into a hip hop club) Tramp's= ,...and yes, they were great, but I've never felt motivated to hear their ne= wer stuff. If you think I should check'em out, I shall.

In terms of the Banshees, I would just say not to be swayed by their later,= poppier stuff (though I happen to dig that stuff, myself). The original Ban= shees (with John McKay on guitar and Kenny Morris on drums) were a much angr= ier beast without much of a care for pop accessbility. Both THE SCREAM and J= OIN HANDS are brash, icy blasts of truly unique, uncomprimising music (and t= hey make INFLAMMABLE MATERIAL sound like fuckin' Abba in terms of pop-access= ibility), and I cannot recommend them highly enough. ONCE UPON A TIME (the f= irst singles compilation) isn't a bad place to start either, but it leans he= avily towards the John McGeoch years (the band's second official guitarist, = ex of Magazine/Visage and later of PiL fame). Robert Smith, of course, playe= d with them as well (in two periods, though his tenure is only captured on r= ecord on HYAENA and the live NOCTURNE), but I never felt he really defined h= imself whilst in the band, sound-wise (though he clearly took a lot of tonso= rial advice from Ms.Sioux).

Alex in NYC





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From: GregSlawson@aol.com
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees
Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 5:56 PM


That's true, SLF and Siouxie are different. SLF = reformed in 1990 and has made 4 decent albums since then, staying true to th= eir original sound, style and politics (without the flare of "Inflammab= le" or course, but who except KJ can match their origingal sound and mi= ssion?). But I don't see what is so great about Siouxie. I only have heard h= er hits (Christine, Peek-a-Boo, Spellbound, and maybe a few others) but I do= n't see what the big deal is. I'd prefer the Cure, who at least made some ca= thchy pop songs as well as some moody stuff. Wanna fill me in?
--MS_Mac_OE_3152427889_88720_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:35:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:35:03 -0000 Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees References: <200311231524.hANFOhcw004740@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <003d01c3b1d7$5fc5a820$bf668751@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C3B1D7.5D532180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] O/T Bansheesdon't bother with the new SLF stuff, it just = doesn't make any impression, they just can't write a catchy tune clash copyists with no more than 2 decent tunes ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Smith=20 To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees Hey again, Greg.... I saw the reformed SLF (with Bruce "Jam" Foxton on bass) a number of = years back at since-closed-down (and turned into a hip hop club) = Tramp's,...and yes, they were great, but I've never felt motivated to = hear their newer stuff. If you think I should check'em out, I shall. In terms of the Banshees, I would just say not to be swayed by their = later, poppier stuff (though I happen to dig that stuff, myself). The = original Banshees (with John McKay on guitar and Kenny Morris on drums) = were a much angrier beast without much of a care for pop accessbility. = Both THE SCREAM and JOIN HANDS are brash, icy blasts of truly unique, = uncomprimising music (and they make INFLAMMABLE MATERIAL sound like = fuckin' Abba in terms of pop-accessibility), and I cannot recommend them = highly enough. ONCE UPON A TIME (the first singles compilation) isn't a = bad place to start either, but it leans heavily towards the John McGeoch = years (the band's second official guitarist, ex of Magazine/Visage and = later of PiL fame). Robert Smith, of course, played with them as well = (in two periods, though his tenure is only captured on record on HYAENA = and the live NOCTURNE), but I never felt he really defined himself = whilst in the band, sound-wise (though he clearly took a lot of = tonsorial advice from Ms.Sioux). Alex in NYC ---------- From: GregSlawson@aol.com To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees Date: Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 5:56 PM That's true, SLF and Siouxie are different. SLF reformed in 1990 and = has made 4 decent albums since then, staying true to their original = sound, style and politics (without the flare of "Inflammable" or course, = but who except KJ can match their origingal sound and mission?). But I = don't see what is so great about Siouxie. I only have heard her hits = (Christine, Peek-a-Boo, Spellbound, and maybe a few others) but I don't = see what the big deal is. I'd prefer the Cure, who at least made some = cathchy pop songs as well as some moody stuff. Wanna fill me in?=20 ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C3B1D7.5D532180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] O/T Banshees
don't bother with the new SLF stuff, it = just=20 doesn't make any impression, they just can't write a catchy = tune
 
clash copyists with no more than 2 = decent=20 tunes
 
<sorry!>
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alex=20 Smith
To: gathering@misera.net ; gathering@misera.net
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 = 3:24=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] O/T = Banshees


Hey again, Greg....

I saw the reformed SLF = (with=20 Bruce "Jam" Foxton on bass) a number of years back at = since-closed-down (and=20 turned into a hip hop club) Tramp's,...and yes, they were great, but = I've=20 never felt motivated to hear their newer stuff. If you think I should = check'em=20 out, I shall.

In terms of the Banshees, I would just say not to = be=20 swayed by their later, poppier stuff (though I happen to dig that = stuff,=20 myself). The original Banshees (with John McKay on guitar and Kenny = Morris on=20 drums) were a much angrier beast without much of a care for pop = accessbility.=20 Both THE SCREAM and JOIN HANDS are brash, icy blasts of truly unique,=20 uncomprimising music (and they make INFLAMMABLE MATERIAL sound like = fuckin'=20 Abba in terms of pop-accessibility), and I cannot recommend them = highly=20 enough. ONCE UPON A TIME (the first singles compilation) isn't a bad = place to=20 start either, but it leans heavily towards the John McGeoch years (the = band's=20 second official guitarist, ex of Magazine/Visage and later of PiL = fame).=20 Robert Smith, of course, played with them as well (in two periods, = though his=20 tenure is only captured on record on HYAENA and the live NOCTURNE), = but I=20 never felt he really defined himself whilst in the band, sound-wise = (though he=20 clearly took a lot of tonsorial advice from Ms.Sioux).

Alex in=20 NYC





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From: = GregSlawson@aol.com
To:=20 gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees
Date: Sat, = Nov 22,=20 2003, 5:56 PM


That's true, SLF and Siouxie are different. = SLF=20 reformed in 1990 and has made 4 decent albums since then, staying = true to=20 their original sound, style and politics (without the flare of = "Inflammable"=20 or course, but who except KJ can match their origingal sound and = mission?).=20 But I don't see what is so great about Siouxie. I only have heard = her hits=20 (Christine, Peek-a-Boo, Spellbound, and maybe a few others) but I = don't see=20 what the big deal is. I'd prefer the Cure, who at least made some = cathchy=20 pop songs as well as some moody stuff. Wanna fill me in?=20
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C3B1D7.5D532180-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 15:41:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:41:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] release dates? Message-ID: <20031123164033.Q46870-100000@mother.brap.dk> Would anybody happen to have a list of release dates for the Killing Joke albums and maybe singles too? b From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 16:14:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (parasikon) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:14:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune In-Reply-To: <002201c29250$8cde19c0$0109000a@adsl> Message-ID: <20031123161418.99540.qmail@web20414.mail.yahoo.com> --0-487644318-1069604058=:99142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face. philip hughes wrote:i,d have to go for arabian knights or happy house because of the intro...simple but brilliant ----- Original Message ----- From: bluce ree To: gathering@misera.net Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune dazzle is always nice also Mik Raven wrote: Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following Face to Face Interlude (with Morrissey) Murdering Mouth (with John Cale) Staircase Mystery And I could go on and on Here's a couple of gems from 1977 Bad Shape http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3 Psychic http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Psychic.mp3 Mik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Santiago" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > i would say--- green fingers---......... > > > regards...Maurice in venezuela > > > > --- Alex Smith escribió: > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > > > Alex in NYC > >< BR>> > > > > > ---------- > > >From: > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > > PAVEL > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger #####################################################################################This Mail Was Scanned by 012.net Anti Virus Service - Powered by TrendMicro Interscan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003 I --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-487644318-1069604058=:99142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face.

philip hughes <phil_y@brorhail.org.il> wrote:
i,d have to go for arabian knights or happy house because of the intro...simple but brilliant
----- Original Message -----
From: bluce ree
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune

dazzle is always nice also

Mik Raven <mik.raven@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following

Face to Face
Interlude (with Morrissey)
Murdering Mouth (with John Cale)
Staircase Mystery

And I could go on and on

Here's a couple of gems from 1977

Bad Shape

http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3

Psychic

http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Psychic.mp3

Mik

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcos Santiago"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune


> i would say--- green fingers---.........
>
>
> regards...Maurice in venezuela
>
>
>
> --- Alex Smith escribió: >
> > I'd say "Spellbound," myself.
> >
> > Alex in NYC
> >< BR>> >
> >
> > ----------
> > >From:
> > >To: gathering@misera.net
> > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)
> > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100
> > >
> >
> > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees.
> > PAVEL
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gathering mailing list
> > Gathering@misera.net
> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>
> _________________________________________________________
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Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-487644318-1069604058=:99142-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 16:14:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (parasikon) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:14:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune In-Reply-To: <002201c29250$8cde19c0$0109000a@adsl> Message-ID: <20031123161431.99587.qmail@web20414.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2140092986-1069604071=:99091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face. philip hughes wrote: i,d have to go for arabian knights or happy house because of the intro...simple but brilliant ----- Original Message ----- From: bluce ree To: gathering@misera.net Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune dazzle is always nice also Mik Raven wrote: Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following Face to Face Interlude (with Morrissey) Murdering Mouth (with John Cale) Staircase Mystery And I could go on and on Here's a couple of gems from 1977 Bad Shape http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3 Psychic http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Psychic.mp3 Mik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Santiago" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > i would say--- green fingers---......... > > > regards...Maurice in venezuela > > > > --- Alex Smith escribió: > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > > > Alex in NYC > >< BR>> > > > > > ---------- > > >From: > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > > PAVEL > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger #####################################################################################This Mail Was Scanned by 012.net Anti Virus Service - Powered by TrendMicro Interscan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003 I --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-2140092986-1069604071=:99091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face.

philip hughes <phil_y@brorhail.org.il> wrote:
i,d have to go for arabian knights or happy house because of the intro...simple but brilliant
----- Original Message -----
From: bluce ree
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune

dazzle is always nice also

Mik Raven <mik.raven@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following

Face to Face
Interlude (with Morrissey)
Murdering Mouth (with John Cale)
Staircase Mystery

And I could go on and on

Here's a couple of gems from 1977

Bad Shape

http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3

Psychic

http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Psychic.mp3

Mik

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcos Santiago"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune


> i would say--- green fingers---.........
>
>
> regards...Maurice in venezuela
>
>
>
> --- Alex Smith escribió: >
> > I'd say "Spellbound," myself.
> >
> > Alex in NYC
> >< BR>> >
> >
> > ----------
> > >From:
> > >To: gathering@misera.net
> > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)
> > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100
> > >
> >
> > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees.
> > PAVEL
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Gathering mailing list
> > Gathering@misera.net
> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
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Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-2140092986-1069604071=:99091-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 16:15:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (parasikon) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 08:15:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune In-Reply-To: <002201c29250$8cde19c0$0109000a@adsl> Message-ID: <20031123161511.87675.qmail@web20421.mail.yahoo.com> --0-778530189-1069604111=:87250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face. philip hughes wrote: i,d have to go for arabian knights or happy house because of the intro...simple but brilliant ----- Original Message ----- From: bluce ree To: gathering@misera.net Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune dazzle is always nice also Mik Raven wrote: Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following Face to Face Interlude (with Morrissey) Murdering Mouth (with John Cale) Staircase Mystery And I could go on and on Here's a couple of gems from 1977 Bad Shape http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3 Psychic http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/Psychic.mp3 Mik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos Santiago" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > i would say--- green fingers---......... > > > regards...Maurice in venezuela > > > > --- Alex Smith escribió: > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > > > Alex in NYC > >< BR>> > > > > > ---------- > > >From: > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees. > > PAVEL > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger #####################################################################################This Mail Was Scanned by 012.net Anti Virus Service - Powered by TrendMicro Interscan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003 I --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-778530189-1069604111=:87250 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face.

philip hughes <phil_y@brorhail.org.il> wrote:
i,d have to go for arabian knights or happy house because of the intro...simple but brilliant
----- Original Message -----
From: bluce ree
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune

dazzle is always nice also

Mik Raven <mik.raven@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
Can't narrow it down to one, But I'd say any of the following

Face to Face
Interlude (with Morrissey)
Murdering Mouth (with John Cale)
Staircase Mystery

And I could go on and on

Here's a couple of gems from 1977

Bad Shape

http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/BadShape.mp3

Psychic

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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune


> i would say--- green fingers---.........
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> regards...Maurice in venezuela
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> > I'd say "Spellbound," myself.
> >
> > Alex in NYC
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> > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of Banshees.
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 "Last Beat of my Heart" still does it for me, as does "Rhapsody". Peep

>Show was the best they did and of course, worthy of mention is "Face to Face" -
>great video too.
 
   "Last Beat " and "Face to Face" remind me of a very special former "friend" I had.  Siouxsie was her favorite singer in the world.  Still can't listen to those two songs without the memories coming flooding back and my eyes tearing up.
 
~Alexi

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Okay...you guys are making me do this.  My favorites by Sioux are "Israel", "Monitor", "Nightshift", "Trust in Me" (Siouxsie does this song much better than the Disney snake), "Last Beat of My Heart", and the list can go on forever.  Pretty much, the only song I don't care too much for is "Fear (Of the Unknown)".  The rest are awesome, if you ask me.

~Alexi




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going the wrong way anyhow."
-Eeyore
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>From: Idolatary@aol.com
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>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: [kj] (no subject)
>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:40:47 EST
>
>I also love the banshees as budgie was a big influence to me as were KJ being
>a drummer myself.
>My favourite banshees song would have to be
>israel
>cheers Steve in bucks

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*Prices may vary by service area. From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 17:42:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Brian Whitehead) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:42:43 -0000 Subject: [kj] Tinderbox References: <003301c3b0fb$0c6c2640$18887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <007401c3b1e9$3398bcd0$06aa7ad5@EmmaJane> I'm going to join in on this one, I too absolutely love this album and its my favourite Siouxsie. Is it surprising that so many gatherers like this album. The guitar work is fantastic and that violin sound Caruthers gets out of that guitar is excellent. Just listen to 'This Unrest' to see what I mean. For the geeks (me) I think he uses a very rare Boss pedal called a 'slow gear' to get that violin sound. Still not a patch on Geordie though. Bad s*** about the crash. One of those 'in cotext moments' Brian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Antoni Adamiak" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Tinderbox > I always thought I was alone in being captivated by Tinderbox, being one of > the later albums. Quite frankly, I'm not really keen on comparing albums as > they all have certain qualities (with KJ even OTG ! Don't forget no OTG, > probably no EDAVRE, at least in it's rough & ready state) but Tinderbox sure > is a gorgeous record ... with a wonderful sleeve too ... > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:55 PM > Subject: [kj] (no subject) > > > > The best banshees album imho would have to be tinderbox > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 17:49:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:49:25 EST Subject: [kj] that clown.... Message-ID: <3f.256603b5.2cf24d25@aol.com> --part1_3f.256603b5.2cf24d25_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought my copy in Houston, TX in 1981 (fresh off the shelf) at a cool punk rock record store! Not signed until '94, though, during the Pandemonium tour. --part1_3f.256603b5.2cf24d25_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I bought my copy in Houston, TX in 1981 (fresh off the= shelf) at a cool punk rock record store! Not signed until '94, though, duri= ng the Pandemonium tour. --part1_3f.256603b5.2cf24d25_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 18:10:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Brian Whitehead) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:10:45 -0000 Subject: [kj] O/T SLF References: Message-ID: <00a001c3b1ed$1ea8cb90$06aa7ad5@EmmaJane> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C3B1ED.1D4F07F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've seen SLF a couple of times over the last few years and me and my = mate were in histerics last time as I think Mr Foxton looses it = sometimes and thinks he's back in the Jam and starts playing Town Called = Malice while the others are palying Suspect Device.=20 Next time you see them just focus on Brucy and let your mind wander and = I swear you sea what I mean. Brian. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: GregSlawson@aol.com=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [kj] O/T Banshees That's true, SLF and Siouxie are different. SLF reformed in 1990 and = has made 4 decent albums since then, staying true to their original = sound, style and politics (without the flare of "Inflammable" or course, = but who except KJ can match their origingal sound and mission?). But I = don't see what is so great about Siouxie. I only have heard her hits = (Christine, Peek-a-Boo, Spellbound, and maybe a few others) but I don't = see what the big deal is. I'd prefer the Cure, who at least made some = cathchy pop songs as well as some moody stuff. Wanna fill me in? ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C3B1ED.1D4F07F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've seen SLF a couple of times over = the last few=20 years and me and my mate were in histerics last time as I think Mr = Foxton looses=20 it sometimes and thinks he's back in the Jam and starts playing Town = Called=20 Malice while the others are palying Suspect Device.
 
Next time you see them just focus on = Brucy and let=20 your mind wander and I swear you sea what I mean.
 
Brian.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, November 22, = 2003 10:56=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] O/T = Banshees

That's true, SLF and Siouxie are different. SLF = reformed in=20 1990 and has made 4 decent albums since then, staying true to their = original=20 sound, style and politics (without the flare of "Inflammable" or = course, but=20 who except KJ can match their origingal sound and mission?). But I = don't see=20 what is so great about Siouxie. I only have heard her hits (Christine, = Peek-a-Boo, Spellbound, and maybe a few others) but I don't see what = the big=20 deal is. I'd prefer the Cure, who at least made some cathchy pop songs = as well=20 as some moody stuff. Wanna fill me in? = ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C3B1ED.1D4F07F0-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 18:10:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:10:05 EST Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees Message-ID: <6f.3ecb63af.2cf251fd@aol.com> --part1_6f.3ecb63af.2cf251fd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit True, the reformed SLF gigs are very good (I've seen about 5 since 1990), and Foxton is cool. Their 90s albums are more catchy, rock-n-roll sounding, but if you like Nobody's Heroes or Go For It you might want to check them out (esp. Get A Life). I'll have to check out the early Siouxie stuff. I heard the 2 mpgs on one of yesterday's email and they were good--that very early British punk sound, kind of like very early slits. Talk to you later. Greg --part1_6f.3ecb63af.2cf251fd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable True, the reformed SLF gigs are very good (I've seen a= bout 5 since 1990), and Foxton is cool. Their 90s albums are more catchy, ro= ck-n-roll sounding, but if you like Nobody's Heroes or Go For It you might w= ant to check them out (esp. Get A Life).
I'll have to check out the early Siouxie stuff. I heard the 2 mpgs on one of= yesterday's email and they were good--that very early British punk sound, k= ind of like very early slits. Talk to you later.
Greg --part1_6f.3ecb63af.2cf251fd_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 22:28:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?killing=20joke?=) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:28:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES In-Reply-To: <20031123172121.O46870-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <20031123222859.96144.qmail@web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-205296683-1069626539=:96048 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit THE ONE THAT STARTED THE FIRE MOST NIGHTS WAS ICON THEN METAL POSTCARD BUT THE BEST PIECES OF WORK WERE ALL OF JOIN HANDS Bo Krogsgaard wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, parasikon wrote: > I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face. Monitor is my fave (and no its not cos i'm a geek, i really love that riff). b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-205296683-1069626539=:96048 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
THE ONE THAT STARTED THE FIRE MOST NIGHTS WAS
 
ICON
 
THEN
METAL POSTCARD
BUT THE BEST PIECES OF WORK WERE ALL OF JOIN HANDS


Bo Krogsgaard <t23@mother.brap.dk> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, parasikon wrote:

> I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face.

Monitor is my fave (and no its not cos i'm a geek, i really love that
riff).


b


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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-205296683-1069626539=:96048-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 18:10:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:10:05 EST Subject: [kj] O/T Banshees Message-ID: <6f.3ecb63af.2cf251fd@aol.com> --part1_6f.3ecb63af.2cf251fd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit True, the reformed SLF gigs are very good (I've seen about 5 since 1990), and Foxton is cool. Their 90s albums are more catchy, rock-n-roll sounding, but if you like Nobody's Heroes or Go For It you might want to check them out (esp. Get A Life). I'll have to check out the early Siouxie stuff. I heard the 2 mpgs on one of yesterday's email and they were good--that very early British punk sound, kind of like very early slits. Talk to you later. Greg --part1_6f.3ecb63af.2cf251fd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable True, the reformed SLF gigs are very good (I've seen a= bout 5 since 1990), and Foxton is cool. Their 90s albums are more catchy, ro= ck-n-roll sounding, but if you like Nobody's Heroes or Go For It you might w= ant to check them out (esp. Get A Life).
I'll have to check out the early Siouxie stuff. I heard the 2 mpgs on one of= yesterday's email and they were good--that very early British punk sound, k= ind of like very early slits. Talk to you later.
Greg --part1_6f.3ecb63af.2cf251fd_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 20:44:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:44:43 -0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke tru Sony - vinyl? References: Message-ID: <00a601c3b203$3151b430$08f487d9@mycomputer> Don't think so. Which is a shame, as Vinyl really is for the cool kids (and me), as well as sounding better, shows off the artwork better. Not that the latter would be important with the last album. > Has there been any vinyl release of the new album anywhere? I would guess > Germany, but I've not heard anything. From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 21:37:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:37:39 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Siouxsie Ad Nauseum Message-ID: <200311232138.hANLcIcw026403@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3152450259_1132833_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Worst songs by La Sioux: "Fear (Of the Unknown)", "O Baby" Alex in NYC ---------- From: "Alexi Hamilton" To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 11:41 AM Okay...you guys are making me do this. My favorites by Sioux are "Israel", "Monitor", "Nightshift", "Trust in Me" (Siouxsie does this song much better than the Disney snake), "Last Beat of My Heart", and the list can go on forever. Pretty much, the only song I don't care too much for is "Fear (Of the Unknown)". The rest are awesome, if you ask me. ~Alexi ################################## "What's the hurry? We're probably going the wrong way anyhow." -Eeyore ################################## >From: Idolatary@aol.com >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] (no subject) >Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:40:47 EST > >I also love the banshees as budgie was a big influence to me as were KJ being >a drummer myself. >My favourite banshees song would have to be >israel >cheers Steve in bucks Enjoy online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average.* *Prices may vary by service area. _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --MS_Mac_OE_3152450259_1132833_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] OT: Siouxsie Ad Nauseum
Worst songs by La Sioux:  "Fear (Of the Unknown)", "O B= aby"

Alex in NYC


----------
From: "Alexi Hamilton" <alexih@hotmail.com>
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)
Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 11:41 AM


Okay...you guys are making me do this.  My favorites by Si= oux are "Israel", "Monitor", "Nightshift", &qu= ot;Trust in Me" (Siouxsie does this song much better than the Disney sn= ake), "Last Beat of My Heart", and the list can go on forever. &nb= sp;Pretty much, the only song I don't care too much for is "Fear (Of th= e Unknown)".  The rest are awesome, if you ask me.

~Alexi




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>From: Idolatary@aol.com
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: [kj] (no subject)
>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:40:47 EST
>
>I also love the banshees as budgie was a big influence to me as were KJ= being
>a drummer myself.
>My favourite banshees song would have to be
>israel
>cheers Steve in bucks


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--MS_Mac_OE_3152450259_1132833_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 22:45:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?killing=20joke?=) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:45:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? In-Reply-To: <004f01c3b147$bed48920$245c08c3@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <20031123224535.96180.qmail@web25101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-177816168-1069627535=:95997 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ok lads show your colours man united here colesy you red or blue??? Antoni Adamiak wrote: Hello folks, Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next Sunday ? I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea vs Man United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet but our list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude not to. *** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it *** Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Misera" To: "Antoni Adamiak" Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: Re: a gathering ? > ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game in some > pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-) > > cheers, > -andy > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from 1st-4th Dec then > > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) - so > > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the 30th, which of > > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the Chelsea vs Man > > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, Jamie & me on > > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ? > > > > Regards, > > > > Antoni > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-177816168-1069627535=:95997 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
ok lads show your colours
man united here
colesy you red or blue???


Antoni Adamiak <antoni@clara.net> wrote:
Hello folks,

Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next Sunday ?
I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea vs Man
United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet but our
list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude not to.
*** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it ***

Regards,

Antoni

* http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Misera"
To: "Antoni Adamiak"
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: a gathering ?


> ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game in some
> pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-)
>
> cheers,
> -andy
>
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote:
>
> > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from 1st-4th Dec
then
> > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) - so
> > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the 30th, which
of
> > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the Chelsea vs
Man
> > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, Jamie & me
on
> > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antoni
> >
> > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andreas Misera"
> > To: "Antoni Adamiak"
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: a gathering ?
> >


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jELBOD
as yr nemesis markgholt@aol.com (whos he after only being there 25 years???)
lol
 
who's this footie team? not the arse i hope???


Jelbod@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 22/11/03 16:02:29 Pacific Standard Time, Jpwhkj@aol.com writes:

Where's Jel these days?



    Been extremely busy looking after the Mrs. old chap , working (diversifying the business) , alcohol sampling and of course watching the greatest football team the world has ever seen and trying to sort me poota out as Mrs. Jelbod, computer expert she thinks she is, buggered it.

  A Gathering?...sounds good.

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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3B1FB.86F47060-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 20:34:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (ade) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:34:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] Clermont '84 bootleg and cover version archive In-Reply-To: <20031123140423.K46870-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <003601c3b201$3f9337f0$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Mirrored here: http://mr-pants/audio/KillingJoke/Live/1984-05-24.Clermont/ ade. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Bo Krogsgaard Sent: 23 November 2003 13:25 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] Clermont '84 bootleg and cover version archive http://despair.curious.be:10875/Clermont/ 24 May 1984, the files are BADASS huge (320kbits) but i couldn't be arsed to reencode them, take 'em or leave 'em. Sound is average, Jaz's blubber is quite fun, not exactly a recording i would crank every day but i have never seen it around elsewhere so i thought i'd offer it to you freaks out there. Slightly overtuned but plenty of Geordie on it after a few songs. It will be there for THREE DAYS ONLY since the server needs an overhaul. This means that the cover versions archive will be down for a while too. I suggest you grab all you can as soon as possible and help eachother fill out the blanks, so to speak. The cover versions will be back up, but i cannot say when or where just yet. OK Night Time (track 01 of the Clermont bootleg) is up, i suggest that if you grab the files while i upload them, stay away from the last track until the last track is 15 - Wardance and it is 9'633'792 bytes large. If you have no clue what this means, just wait a day and then grab 'em all. For clarity's (sanity's ?) sake: 11'773'952 01 - Night Time.mp3 10'586'112 02 - Sun Goes Down.mp3 10'360'832 03 - Tabazan.mp3 8'906'752 04 - The Wait.mp3 11'833'344 05 - Darkness Before Dawn.mp3 9'930'752 06 - Kings And Queens.mp3 8'505'344 07 - Complications.mp3 6'871'040 08 - Requiem.mp3 8'325'120 09 - Bloodsport.mp3 11'046'912 10 - Love Like Blood.mp3 8'966'144 11 - Tension.mp3 10'348'544 12 - Change.mp3 11'134'976 13 - Pssyche.mp3 8'325'120 14 - Eighties.mp3 9'633'792 15 - Wardance.mp3 Another service proudly (unknowingly) sponsored by my employer and friendly people on eDonkey. Don't fucking take the red one. Optimistic people have a lack of useful information. Caveat emptor. Play loud or not at all. And DON'T FUCKING MENTION FIGHT CLUB! b drunk as a Finnish moose who just found a back yard home distillery "mooooh! this gotta be alcohol!" PS: Cover versions archive at http://despair.curious.be:10875/ get 'em while they're hot! _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 23:20:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (culture.virus) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:20:38 -0800 Subject: [kj] that clown.... In-Reply-To: <57.25545668.2cf14435@aol.com> References: <57.25545668.2cf14435@aol.com> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20031123151844.02a0d4a0@127.0.0.1> I have a copy too. Picked it up for a dollar, believe it or not. I'm not sure if my copy is legit though. Mine's not numbered ( ____ of 2000) and the cassette inside is plain black with no labels for track listing. At 02:59 PM 11/22/03, you wrote: >I have a cassette-only, ltd. 2000 edition copy of the original >"Unperverted Pantomine", which Jaz and Geordie signed in 1994 at a record >store. Anyone else have the cassette? How hard is it to find? I am culturevirus From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 23 23:43:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:43:27 EST Subject: [kj] that clown.... Message-ID: <127.353c6501.2cf2a01f@aol.com> --part1_127.353c6501.2cf2a01f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit my numbered copy is also plain black w/o labels. Hang on to it! --part1_127.353c6501.2cf2a01f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable my numbered copy is also plain black w/o labels. Hang=20= on to it! --part1_127.353c6501.2cf2a01f_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 01:35:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:35:00 -0500 Subject: [kj] Clermont '84 bootleg Message-ID: <621F3BE8.2EC65BB2.0004DF86@aol.com> Is this *really* 1984? From the track listing I'd say it was 1985. Jamie > Subject: [kj] Clermont '84 bootleg and cover version archive > > 24 May 1984 > 11'773'952 01 - Night Time.mp3 > 10'586'112 02 - Sun Goes Down.mp3 > 10'360'832 03 - Tabazan.mp3 > 8'906'752 04 - The Wait.mp3 > 11'833'344 05 - Darkness Before Dawn.mp3 > 9'930'752 06 - Kings And Queens.mp3 > 8'505'344 07 - Complications.mp3 > 6'871'040 08 - Requiem.mp3 > 8'325'120 09 - Bloodsport.mp3 > 11'046'912 10 - Love Like Blood.mp3 > 8'966'144 11 - Tension.mp3 > 10'348'544 12 - Change.mp3 > 11'134'976 13 - Pssyche.mp3 > 8'325'120 14 - Eighties.mp3 > 9'633'792 15 - Wardance.mp3 > From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 01:40:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:40:47 -0500 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <77AD66C7.6DDD69DC.0004DF86@aol.com> CHELSEA! Last time we asked, it seemed like Chelsea was the top team amongst the Gathering (Antoni, Jel, Neil, me, plus more that I've forgotten). I can't make the 6th, I'm afraid. Cheers, Jamie > ok lads show your colours > man united here > colesy you red or blue??? From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 04:08:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (parasikon) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:08:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES In-Reply-To: <20031123222859.96144.qmail@web25104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031124040839.32272.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1374028292-1069646919=:32007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii After reading this Siouxsie And The Banshees thread, i got to wondering what it'd be like to have a sort of "Band Of The Week" thread on here.Seems like there's so many of you out there that know an almost endless amount of bands.It'd be fun to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. killing joke wrote:THE ONE THAT STARTED THE FIRE MOST NIGHTS WAS ICON THEN METAL POSTCARD BUT THE BEST PIECES OF WORK WERE ALL OF JOIN HANDS Bo Krogsgaard wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, parasikon wrote: > I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face. Monitor is my fave (and no its not cos i'm a geek, i really love that riff). b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-1374028292-1069646919=:32007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
After reading this Siouxsie And The Banshees thread, i got to wondering what it'd be like to have a sort of "Band Of The Week" thread on here.Seems like there's so many of you out there that know an almost endless amount of bands.It'd be fun to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i might not have otherwise been exposed to yet.

killing joke <akillingjoker@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
THE ONE THAT STARTED THE FIRE MOST NIGHTS WAS
 
ICON
 
THEN
METAL POSTCARD
BUT THE BEST PIECES OF WORK WERE ALL OF JOIN HANDS


Bo Krogsgaard <t23@mother.brap.dk> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, parasikon wrote:

> I like Scarecrow,Turn To Stone,The Killing Jar,and Face To Face.

Monitor is my fave (and no its not cos i'm a geek, i really love that
riff).


b


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Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-1374028292-1069646919=:32007-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 04:31:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:31:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <3396064.1069648312567.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> I still like to think of myself as one of those annoying non-committed fans, but all my mates are season-ticket holders at Chels, I know more about them than any other team, I've seen them play more than any other team, and I always try to see their games on TV. So I guess I am. And sorry, I can't do the 6th either - we're getting into the doing family Xmas things zone - taking my little nephews to some godforsaken kids theatre... N > from: Jpwhkj@aol.com > date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:40:47 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? > > CHELSEA! > > Last time we asked, it seemed like Chelsea was the top team amongst the Gathering (Antoni, Jel, Neil, me, plus more that I've forgotten). > > I can't make the 6th, I'm afraid. > > Cheers, > > Jamie > > > > ok lads show your colours > > man united here > > colesy you red or blue??? > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 04:53:26 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:53:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES In-Reply-To: <20031124040839.32272.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com> from "parasikon" at Nov 23, 2003 08:08:39 PM Message-ID: <200311240453.hAO4rQdp011502@basil.jkm.net> > After reading this Siouxsie And The Banshees thread, i got to wondering what it'd be like to have a sort of "Band Of The Week" thread on here.Seems like there's so many of you out there that know an almost endless amount of bands.It'd be fun to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. I think it'd be great. Could we get everyone to *agree* on a band? It'd also be nice to do old and new. Some of the bands y'all bring up as influential or seminal I've never heard of, or really gotten into. For example -- The Stranglers. I have a picture of my sweetie aged 14 wearing a Stranglers t-shirt. But what albums and/or songs are good? Used to be I had time to go to our uni's library and even back in the 80s they had a music listening library where you could directly request any album they had be played; you then plugged into a headphone jack at a carousel, sat down and listened. Some studied but I can't do both at the same time ;-) You could look up at a TV monitor which listed out the channels and what was on which channel, so if something of interest came on, you could flip over -- of course, you'd land wherever the album (usually, vinyl) was playing at the time, none of this digital on-demand repositioning -- but it was a good way to sample music. Oh for the days when I had time to go to the library! :-) From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 05:25:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:25:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Clermont '84 bootleg In-Reply-To: <621F3BE8.2EC65BB2.0004DF86@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031124062426.W79837-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 Jpwhkj@aol.com wrote: > Is this *really* 1984? From the track listing I'd say it was 1985. That's what the archive said, seems a year too early for me too but i can only refer to the source material and i've noone to ask to verify it. b From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 05:27:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:27:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Clermont '84 bootleg and cover version archive In-Reply-To: <003601c3b201$3f9337f0$0200a8c0@thelab.local> Message-ID: <20031124062708.W79837-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, ade wrote: > Mirrored here: > http://mr-pants/audio/KillingJoke/Live/1984-05-24.Clermont/ You da man, badboy. b From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 08:06:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:06:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT: Siouxsie Ad Nauseum Message-ID: <6126670.1069661191528.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> A Siouxsie quote... "O Baby, I don't know what we were thinking of with this one" > from: Alex Smith > date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:37:39 > to: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] OT: Siouxsie Ad Nauseum > > > Worst songs by La Sioux: "Fear (Of the Unknown)", "O Baby" > > Alex in NYC > > > ---------- > From: "Alexi Hamilton" > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 11:41 AM > > > Okay...you guys are making me do this. My favorites by Sioux are "Israel", > "Monitor", "Nightshift", "Trust in Me" (Siouxsie does this song much better > than the Disney snake), "Last Beat of My Heart", and the list can go on > forever. Pretty much, the only song I don't care too much for is "Fear (Of > the Unknown)". The rest are awesome, if you ask me. > > ~Alexi > > > > > ################################## > "What's the hurry? We're probably > going the wrong way anyhow." > -Eeyore > ################################## > >From: Idolatary@aol.com > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >To: gathering@misera.net > >Subject: [kj] (no subject) > >Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:40:47 EST > > > >I also love the banshees as budgie was a big influence to me as were KJ being > >a drummer myself. > >My favourite banshees song would have to be > >israel > >cheers Steve in bucks > > > > > Enjoy online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices > start at less than $1 a day average.* > *Prices may vary by service area. > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 08:15:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:15:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] O/T Stranglers Message-ID: <5270489.1069661729545.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> If this weeks band is to be the Stranglers, my favourites are .. Album: Black and White Single: 5 Minutes Brian. > from: Amy Moseley Rupp > date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:53:26 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES > > > After reading this Siouxsie And The Banshees thread, i got to wondering what it'd be like to have a sort of "Band Of The Week" thread on here.Seems like there's so many of you out there that know an almost endless amount of bands.It'd be fun to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. > > I think it'd be great. > > Could we get everyone to *agree* on a band? It'd also be nice to > do old and new. Some of the bands y'all bring up as influential > or seminal I've never heard of, or really gotten into. For > example -- The Stranglers. I have a picture of my sweetie aged > 14 wearing a Stranglers t-shirt. But what albums and/or songs > are good? Used to be I had time to go to our uni's library and > even back in the 80s they had a music listening library where > you could directly request any album they had be played; you > then plugged into a headphone jack at a carousel, sat down and > listened. Some studied but I can't do both at the same time ;-) > You could look up at a TV monitor which listed out the channels > and what was on which channel, so if something of interest came > on, you could flip over -- of course, you'd land wherever the > album (usually, vinyl) was playing at the time, none of this > digital on-demand repositioning -- but it was a good way to > sample music. > > Oh for the days when I had time to go to the library! :-) > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 08:25:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:25:16 +0000 Subject: [kj] red or blue? Message-ID: --============_-1142460175==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" ok lads show your colours man united here colesy you red or blue??? red and I can probably make the 6th -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142460175==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" red or blue?
ok lads show your colours
man united here
colesy you red or blue???
red and I can probably make the 6th
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--============_-1142460175==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 08:26:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Lucy Cornwell) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:26:35 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C3B264.AC67BFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OT: Quitting smoking...complications????I would suggest a trip to the Doc, the cough is right the blood isn't. I would think you'll be sent for a chest X-ray and get a variety of bloods done. -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of Jester Sent: 21 November 2003 18:57 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? Ok folks, I recently quit smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far as cravings and all that goes, I am having no issues. What I am wondering, if any of you have quit, is are there some strange complications, like very thick, bloody, discharge from the lungs, and a deep cough, normal in the healing process, or should I get myself to the hospital???? What I have been hacking up today has been pretty fucking shocking... Uh...help!?!?! KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C3B264.AC67BFA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Quitting smoking...complications????
I=20 would suggest a trip to the Doc, the cough is right the blood isn't. I = would=20 think you'll be sent for a chest X-ray and get a variety of bloods=20 done.
-----Original Message-----
From: = gathering-admin@misera.net=20 [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On Behalf Of = Jester
Sent:=20 21 November 2003 18:57
To: = gathering@misera.net
Subject:=20 [kj] OT: Quitting = smoking...complications????

Ok folks, I recently = quit smoking=20 (almost two weeks ago), and as far as cravings and all that goes, I am = having=20 no issues. What I am wondering, if any of you have quit, is are there = some=20 strange complications, like very thick, bloody, discharge from the = lungs, and=20 a deep cough, normal in the healing process, or should I get myself to = the=20 hospital???? What I have been hacking up today has been pretty fucking = shocking...

Uh...help!?!?!



KEEPING THE FIRE=20 ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER, =
JESTER=20
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------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C3B264.AC67BFA0-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 08:45:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (J.D.Spooner) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:45:08 -0000 Subject: [kj] red or blue? References: Message-ID: <000b01c3b267$4430f2a0$4be90651@firedancutwuc1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3B267.440D3E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable red or blue?Liverpool FC here for my shame=20 so me not happy chappy on footie front. lol ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mike coles=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:25 AM Subject: [kj] red or blue? ok lads show your colours man united here colesy you red or blue??? red and I can probably make the 6th --=20 Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3B267.440D3E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable red or blue?
Liverpool FC here for my = shame=20
so me not happy chappy on footie=20 front.
lol
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mike coles
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 = 8:25=20 AM
Subject: [kj] red or = blue?

ok lads show your colours
man united here
colesy you red or blue???
red and I can probably make the 6th
--=20
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.u= k
...=20 and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3B267.440D3E00-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 09:25:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:25:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] red or blue? In-Reply-To: <000b01c3b267$4430f2a0$4be90651@firedancutwuc1> Message-ID: <20031124092522.97455.qmail@web86102.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-811497404-1069665922=:97106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit qpr... you know it makes sense "J.D.Spooner" wrote: BLOCKQUOTE { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}DL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}UL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}OL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}LI { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px}Liverpool FC here for my shame so me not happy chappy on footie front. lol ----- Original Message ----- From: mike coles To: gathering@misera.net Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:25 AM Subject: [kj] red or blue? ok lads show your colours man united here colesy you red or blue??? red and I can probably make the 6th -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-811497404-1069665922=:97106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
qpr...
 
you know it makes sense

"J.D.Spooner" <spoon66@nildram.co.uk> wrote:
Liverpool FC here for my shame
so me not happy chappy on footie front.
lol
----- Original Message -----
From: mike coles
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:25 AM
Subject: [kj] red or blue?

ok lads show your colours
man united here
colesy you red or blue???
red and I can probably make the 6th
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-811497404-1069665922=:97106-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 09:27:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Hopkins, Richard C) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:27:53 -0000 Subject: [kj] red or blue? Message-ID: <8A5895F2E48FA145A39E569702887983056EA1@exchange02.unv.wlv.ac.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B26D.3CAE2AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You're not happy? I'm Pure Old Gold, how do you think I feel! -----Original Message----- From: J.D.Spooner [mailto:spoon66@nildram.co.uk] Sent: 24 November 2003 08:45 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] red or blue? Liverpool FC here for my shame=20 so me not happy chappy on footie front. lol ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mike coles =20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:25 AM Subject: [kj] red or blue? ok lads show your colours man united here colesy you red or blue??? red and I can probably make the 6th --=20 Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B26D.3CAE2AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable red or blue?
You're=20 not happy? I'm Pure Old Gold, how do you think I = feel!
-----Original Message-----
From: J.D.Spooner=20 [mailto:spoon66@nildram.co.uk]
Sent: 24 November 2003=20 08:45
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] = red or=20 blue?

Liverpool FC here for my = shame=20
so me not happy chappy on footie=20 front.
lol
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mike coles
Sent: Monday, November 24, = 2003 8:25=20 AM
Subject: [kj] red or = blue?

ok lads show your colours
man united here
colesy you red or blue???
red and I can probably make the 6th
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B26D.3CAE2AA0-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 09:45:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:45:58 -0000 Subject: [kj] RE:[OT} English Footballs blues? Message-ID: <7D368CED82B7A44FAB699FBB41CC9212080CDD28@i2km02-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B26F.C37D0A8B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You think thats bad. =20 =20 =20 I havent got the BLUES I am not seeing RED =20 =20 ................but White. =20 =20 =20 At least your team has a manager and isnt Millions in debt, like mine.=20 =20 Loose Gannon=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B26F.C37D0A8B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
You think thats=20 bad.  
 
 
I=20 havent got the BLUES
I am=20 not seeing  RED
 
 
................but White.
 
 
 
At=20 least your team has a manager and isnt Millions in debt, like mine.=20
 
Loose Gannon=20
------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B26F.C37D0A8B-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 10:06:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:06:59 -0600 Subject: [kj] RE:[OT} English Footballs blues? In-Reply-To: <7D368CED82B7A44FAB699FBB41CC9212080CDD28@i2km02-ukbr.domain1.systemhost.net> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152491621_2557470 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit At least none of you have to put up with that thing called aggy! Alexi, do you Sooners hate aggy as much as we do? On 11/24/03 3:45 AM, "lisa.gannon@bt.com" wrote: > You think thats bad. > > > I havent got the BLUES > I am not seeing RED > > > ................but White. > > > > At least your team has a manager and isnt Millions in debt, like mine. >> >> >> >> >> Loose Gannon > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" --B_3152491621_2557470 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable RE:[OT} English Footballs blues? At least none of you ha= ve to put up with that thing called aggy!

Alexi, do you Sooners hate aggy as much as we do?

On 11/24/03 3:45 AM, "lisa.gannon@bt.com" <lisa.gannon@bt.com&= gt; wrote:

You think thats bad.   
 
I havent got the BLUES
I am not seeing  RED
 
................but White.<= BR>
 
 
At least your team has a ma= nager and isnt Millions in debt, like mine.

 
 
 
Loose Gannon  



KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HO= NOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

There is no place like 127.0.0.1

"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows o= r Gates?"
 --B_3152491621_2557470-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 12:12:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:12:07 -0000 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CD6D@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> Sorry Andreas & Antoni - can't make 30/11, as we'll be seeing Therapy? = in Wolves. We'll be in London on 20/12 to see the Damned though, so if anyone's = about, that could be another opportunity for a mini-gathering?? Jane -----Original Message----- From: Antoni Adamiak [mailto:antoni@clara.net] Sent: 22 November 2003 22:27 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Hello folks, Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next Sunday = ? I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea vs = Man United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet but = our list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude not = to. *** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it *** Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Misera" To: "Antoni Adamiak" Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: Re: a gathering ? > ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game in = some > pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-) > > cheers, > -andy > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from 1st-4th = Dec then > > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) - so > > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the 30th, = which of > > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the Chelsea = vs Man > > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, Jamie & = me on > > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ? > > > > Regards, > > > > Antoni > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 12:16:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:16:07 -0000 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CD6E@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> Shit - can't do that weekend either - in Bristol for the Damned (Fri), a = friend's birthday party (Sat), and NMA (Sun). Sorry, Jane -----Original Message----- From: Antoni Adamiak [mailto:antoni@clara.net] Sent: 23 November 2003 15:15 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Agreed. I guess it would be better all round to make it Saturday 6th December 2003, and that gives everyone an extra week to sort out their = own arrangements. I think that the 6th Decemeber is the last evening that Andreas is in the big smoke. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mik Raven" To: Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? > Sunday night is just not possible for a non London gatherer who has to = go to > work on Monday morning. > > Mik > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Antoni Adamiak" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:26 PM > Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? > > > > Hello folks, > > > > Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next = Sunday ? > > I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea = vs > Man > > United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet = but > our > > list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude = not to. > > *** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it *** > > > > Regards, > > > > Antoni > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > > > > > > ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game = in > some > > > pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-) > > > > > > cheers, > > > -andy > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > > > > > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from = 1st-4th Dec > > then > > > > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) = - so > > > > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the = 30th, > which > > of > > > > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the = Chelsea vs > > Man > > > > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, = Jamie & me > > on > > > > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Antoni > > > > > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM > > > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 12:27:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:27:27 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES Message-ID: <200311241228.hAOCS5gt025455@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Oh lordy....that's weird. I was *JUST* going to mention the Stranglers!! Huge favorites of mine My faves... 1. "Five Minutes" 2. "Straighten Out" 3. "Something Better Change" 4. "Just like Nothing on Earth" 5. "the Raven" 6. "Ice Queen" 7. "Haning Around" 8. "No More Heroes" 9. "Toiler on the Sea" 10. "Nuclear Device" Alex in NYC ---------- >From: amyr@jump.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES >Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 11:53 PM > >> After reading this Siouxsie And The Banshees thread, i got to wondering >what it'd be like to have a sort of "Band Of The Week" thread on here.Seems >like there's so many of you out there that know an almost endless amount of >bands.It'd be fun to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that >i might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. > >I think it'd be great. > >Could we get everyone to *agree* on a band? It'd also be nice to >do old and new. Some of the bands y'all bring up as influential >or seminal I've never heard of, or really gotten into. For >example -- The Stranglers. I have a picture of my sweetie aged >14 wearing a Stranglers t-shirt. But what albums and/or songs >are good? Used to be I had time to go to our uni's library and >even back in the 80s they had a music listening library where >you could directly request any album they had be played; you >then plugged into a headphone jack at a carousel, sat down and >listened. Some studied but I can't do both at the same time ;-) >You could look up at a TV monitor which listed out the channels >and what was on which channel, so if something of interest came >on, you could flip over -- of course, you'd land wherever the >album (usually, vinyl) was playing at the time, none of this >digital on-demand repositioning -- but it was a good way to >sample music. > >Oh for the days when I had time to go to the library! :-) >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 12:28:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 07:28:21 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Siouxsie Ad Nauseum Message-ID: <200311241228.hAOCS5gv025455@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Hahaha...neither do I. Didn't think much of "Dizzy" either. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: wittz@btinternet.com >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Siouxsie Ad Nauseum >Date: Mon, Nov 24, 2003, 3:06 AM > >A Siouxsie quote... > >"O Baby, I don't know what we were thinking of with this one" > >> from: Alex Smith >> date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:37:39 >> to: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net >> subject: Re: [kj] OT: Siouxsie Ad Nauseum >> >> >> Worst songs by La Sioux: "Fear (Of the Unknown)", "O Baby" >> >> Alex in NYC >> >> >> ---------- >> From: "Alexi Hamilton" >> To: gathering@misera.net >> Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) >> Date: Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 11:41 AM >> >> >> Okay...you guys are making me do this. My favorites by Sioux are "Israel", >> "Monitor", "Nightshift", "Trust in Me" (Siouxsie does this song much better >> than the Disney snake), "Last Beat of My Heart", and the list can go on >> forever. Pretty much, the only song I don't care too much for is "Fear (Of >> the Unknown)". The rest are awesome, if you ask me. >> >> ~Alexi >> >> >> >> >> ################################## >> "What's the hurry? We're probably >> going the wrong way anyhow." >> -Eeyore >> ################################## >> >From: Idolatary@aol.com >> >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >> >To: gathering@misera.net >> >Subject: [kj] (no subject) >> >Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:40:47 EST >> > >> >I also love the banshees as budgie was a big influence to me as were KJ being >> >a drummer myself. >> >My favourite banshees song would have to be >> >israel >> >cheers Steve in bucks >> >> >> >> >> Enjoy online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices >> start at less than $1 a day average.* >> *Prices may vary by service area. >> _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 16:58:57 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:58:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Clermont '84 bootleg and cover version archive In-Reply-To: <20031123140423.K46870-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <20031124165857.17569.qmail@web80513.mail.yahoo.com> Wow, thanks a lot, Bo!! You're right -- Jaz's blubber is quite fun! -Appreciative freak out there --- Bo Krogsgaard wrote: > > http://despair.curious.be:10875/Clermont/ > > 24 May 1984, the files are BADASS huge (320kbits) > but i couldn't be arsed > to reencode them, take 'em or leave 'em. > > Sound is average, Jaz's blubber is quite fun, not > exactly a recording i > would crank every day but i have never seen it > around elsewhere so i > thought i'd offer it to you freaks out there. > Slightly overtuned but > plenty of Geordie on it after a few songs. > > It will be there for THREE DAYS ONLY since the > server needs an overhaul. > This means that the cover versions archive will be > down for a while too. I > suggest you grab all you can as soon as possible and > help eachother fill > out the blanks, so to speak. The cover versions will > be back up, but i > cannot say when or where just yet. > > OK > > Night Time (track 01 of the Clermont bootleg) is up, > i suggest that if you > grab the files while i upload them, stay away from > the last track until > the last track is 15 - Wardance and it is 9'633'792 > bytes large. If you > have no clue what this means, just wait a day and > then grab 'em all. > > For clarity's (sanity's ?) sake: > > 11'773'952 01 - Night Time.mp3 > 10'586'112 02 - Sun Goes Down.mp3 > 10'360'832 03 - Tabazan.mp3 > 8'906'752 04 - The Wait.mp3 > 11'833'344 05 - Darkness Before Dawn.mp3 > 9'930'752 06 - Kings And Queens.mp3 > 8'505'344 07 - Complications.mp3 > 6'871'040 08 - Requiem.mp3 > 8'325'120 09 - Bloodsport.mp3 > 11'046'912 10 - Love Like Blood.mp3 > 8'966'144 11 - Tension.mp3 > 10'348'544 12 - Change.mp3 > 11'134'976 13 - Pssyche.mp3 > 8'325'120 14 - Eighties.mp3 > 9'633'792 15 - Wardance.mp3 > > Another service proudly (unknowingly) sponsored by > my employer and > friendly people on eDonkey. Don't fucking take the > red one. Optimistic > people have a lack of useful information. Caveat > emptor. Play loud or not > at all. And DON'T FUCKING MENTION FIGHT CLUB! > > > b > drunk as a Finnish moose who just found a back yard > home distillery > "mooooh! this gotta be alcohol!" > > > PS: Cover versions archive at > http://despair.curious.be:10875/ > get 'em while they're hot! > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 17:37:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (jo) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:37:43 -0000 Subject: [kj] en France Message-ID: <00fe01c3b2b1$acda77a0$87ac32d4@ravenscap> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C3B2B1.AA51F800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm going to Brittany, Finistre/Morbihan this week, can any of you = (French gatherers maybe?) recommend any sights/events for an aging rock = chick to see/experience/witness? =20 On or offlist. I'm staying in Quimper the first night and I'll be having a trip to = Carnac but want to see what else is going down. I desperately don't = want the place to look like a retirement home IKYWIM TIA jo ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C3B2B1.AA51F800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm going to Brittany, = Finistre/Morbihan this week,=20 can any of you (French gatherers maybe?) recommend any sights/events for = an=20 aging rock chick to see/experience/witness? 
On or offlist.
I'm staying in Quimper the first night = and I'll be=20 having a trip to Carnac but want to see what else is going = down.  I=20 desperately don't want the place to look like a retirement home=20 IKYWIM
TIA
jo
 
------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C3B2B1.AA51F800-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 17:58:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:58:59 -0000 Subject: [kj] Mrs Whiskey name Message-ID: <006001c3b2b4$a5961640$3d2a8351@mycomputer> anyone else in the UK catch "the adventure of english" on ITV last night? during a piece on early settlers in Australian a VERY familiar (to us) folk tune was played! anyone know any more about that tune? all the best tim From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 19:18:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:18:18 EST Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune Message-ID: <126.3553461c.2cf3b37a@aol.com> --part1_126.3553461c.2cf3b37a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 23/11/03 08:24:40 Pacific Standard Time, t23@mother.brap.dk writes: > Monitor is my fave Damn yeah, forgot about that one Bo, great tune. --part1_126.3553461c.2cf3b37a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 23/11/03 08:24:40 Pacific Standard=20= Time, t23@mother.brap.dk writes:

Monitor is my fave

  Damn yeah, forgot about that one Bo, great tune. --part1_126.3553461c.2cf3b37a_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 19:20:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:20:56 EST Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <1c2.12268213.2cf3b418@aol.com> --part1_1c2.12268213.2cf3b418_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 23/11/03 15:14:53 Pacific Standard Time, akillingjoker@yahoo.co.uk writes: > who's this footie team? not the arse i hope??? > > > > Chelsea my man, the Arse? i think not....no never! --part1_1c2.12268213.2cf3b418_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 23/11/03 15:14:53 Pacific Standard=20= Time, akillingjoker@yahoo.co.uk writes:

who's this footie team? not the= arse i hope???





   Chelsea my man, the Arse? i think not....no never! --part1_1c2.12268213.2cf3b418_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 19:24:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:24:14 EST Subject: [kj] red or blue? Message-ID: <12f.35ef7f46.2cf3b4de@aol.com> --part1_12f.35ef7f46.2cf3b4de_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 24/11/03 00:26:21 Pacific Standard Time, mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk writes: > red and I can probably make the 6th > Right if Colesy is doing it, some am i, i owe him a bluey anyway, plus a ribbing hopefully. Put me down for it. Jelly --part1_12f.35ef7f46.2cf3b4de_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 24/11/03 00:26:21 Pacific Standard=20= Time, mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk writes:

red and I can probably make the= 6th


  Right if Colesy is doing it, some am i, i owe him a bluey anyway, plu= s a ribbing hopefully.

  Put me down for it.

  Jelly --part1_12f.35ef7f46.2cf3b4de_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 19:26:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:26:41 EST Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <1ea.14113e10.2cf3b571@aol.com> --part1_1ea.14113e10.2cf3b571_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 24/11/03 04:18:28 Pacific Standard Time, jane.shadforth@shell.com writes: > Shit - can't do that weekend either - in Bristol for the Damned (Fri), a > friend's birthday party (Sat), and NMA (Sun). > > Party Pooper :oP --part1_1ea.14113e10.2cf3b571_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 24/11/03 04:18:28 Pacific Standard=20= Time, jane.shadforth@shell.com writes:

Shit - can't do that weekend ei= ther - in Bristol for the Damned (Fri), a friend's birthday party (Sat), and= NMA (Sun).



  Party Pooper  :oP --part1_1ea.14113e10.2cf3b571_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 19:28:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:28:29 -0000 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Damned @ xmas References: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CD6D@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> Message-ID: <00d401c3b2c1$2445eae0$f2887ed4@mydomain.com> http://www.officialdamned.com/docs/dates/dates03.html I think I might be going along to the Islington Carling Academy on 20/12. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" To: Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Sorry Andreas & Antoni - can't make 30/11, as we'll be seeing Therapy? in Wolves. We'll be in London on 20/12 to see the Damned though, so if anyone's about, that could be another opportunity for a mini-gathering?? Jane -----Original Message----- From: Antoni Adamiak [mailto:antoni@clara.net] Sent: 22 November 2003 22:27 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Hello folks, Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next Sunday ? I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea vs Man United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet but our list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude not to. *** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it *** Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Misera" To: "Antoni Adamiak" Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: Re: a gathering ? > ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game in some > pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-) > > cheers, > -andy > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from 1st-4th Dec then > > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) - so > > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the 30th, which of > > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the Chelsea vs Man > > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, Jamie & me on > > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ? > > > > Regards, > > > > Antoni > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 19:28:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:28:34 EST Subject: [kj] Mrs Whiskey name Message-ID: <129.35d7af44.2cf3b5e2@aol.com> --part1_129.35d7af44.2cf3b5e2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 24/11/03 10:01:09 Pacific Standard Time, timbucknall@killing-joke.com writes: > anyone know any more about that tune? > Only that i have it on a tape in me motor and me and me daughter sing along to it to great amusement to us both. --part1_129.35d7af44.2cf3b5e2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 24/11/03 10:01:09 Pacific Standard=20= Time, timbucknall@killing-joke.com writes:

anyone know any more about that= tune?


  Only that i have it on a tape in me motor and me and me daughter sing= along to it to great amusement to us both. --part1_129.35d7af44.2cf3b5e2_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 19:29:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:29:25 EST Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Message-ID: <61.38429d5a.2cf3b615@aol.com> --part1_61.38429d5a.2cf3b615_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 23/11/03 07:15:30 Pacific Standard Time, antoni@clara.net writes: > it Saturday 6th > December 2003 Sounds good to me Adam Ant --part1_61.38429d5a.2cf3b615_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 23/11/03 07:15:30 Pacific Standard=20= Time, antoni@clara.net writes:

it Saturday 6th
December 2003


  Sounds good to me Adam Ant --part1_61.38429d5a.2cf3b615_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 20:16:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:16:17 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT - 9-11 Action a Big Success in the Heartland Message-ID: <00cc01c3b2c7$d18e3620$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C3B29D.E84BD7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 9-11 Visibility Launched in Kansas City -- HUGE SUCCESS - OTHER CITIES=20 SHOULD FOLLOW OUR LEAD!! Yesterday, the 9-11 Visibility Project launched in Kansas City. IT WAS = A=20 HUGE SUCCESS. Between the vigil and teach-in we had over 200 PEOPLE!! In 20 degree weather with bits of snow falling, Kansas Citians came out = with=20 dozens of "9-11 Cover Up - Stop Bush", and "Support the 9-11 Families -- Demand Bush Stop Blocking 9-11=20 Investigations". Passing cars honked and waved, at times in herds of support. Barry Zwicker's Great Deception documentary was shown, deception dollars = were passed out, and all attendees signed up on a 9-11 Rapid Action = email=20 list. At the end of the Zwicker video -- THE ROOM ERUPTED IN APPLAUSE = !!! WE WILL HAVE PHOTOS AND VIDEO OF THE EVENT UP ON KCINDYMEDIA.ORG IN = COMING DAYS. Friday, the busiest shopping day of the years, we will be out in mass at = the=20 Plaza Fountains at 47th & Main. we'll spread out from there to cover=20 intersections in the busiest shopping area of KC on the biggest shopping = day=20 in KC. -- THE WEATHER PEOPLE SAY IT WILL BE A GORGEOUS DAY !!! Warm regards, Bill Douglas, 9-11 Visibility Project -- Kansas City [This message sent using the IPPN Announce e-mail list. You can join = this low-traffic email group on alternative politics by sending a blank email = to: ippn-announce-subscribe@topica.com You can unsubscribe by writing = ippn-announce-unsubscribe@topica.com To participate in a more active discussion of independent and third party politics, please send a blank email to: ippn-discuss-subscribe@topica.com --^^--------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: fluwdot@earthlink.net EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1ddtL.b3kFoT.Zmx1d2Rv Or send an email to: ippn-announce-unsubscribe@topica.com TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^^--------------------------------------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C3B29D.E84BD7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 

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= ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C3B29D.E84BD7C0-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 20:34:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phil) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:34:34 +0000 Subject: [kj] O/T Stranglers In-Reply-To: <000901c29394$89076000$0109000a@adsl> References: <5270489.1069661729545.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> <000901c29394$89076000$0109000a@adsl> Message-ID: <71q4svoqq6ac15eihpd3flq4eauj386dcf@4ax.com> something better change, peaches, no more heroes my old band supported the stranglers when they played in milton keynes. this was just after Hugh left and they were touring to break in the new singer. The stage was tiny and I didnt have room to set my amp up so I had to play through JJ's rig! god it sounded awesome! afterwards, our singers girlfriend told me that my bass was so loud, it was making her feel sick! had a chat and shared a spliff with JJ after the gig, which was pretty cool too.=20 t'other phil On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:36:07 +0200, you wrote: >if its the stranglers...its got to be "nice and sleazy " the ultemate = bass >sound > phil > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:15 AM >Subject: [kj] O/T Stranglers > > >> >> If this weeks band is to be the Stranglers, my favourites are .. >> >> Album: Black and White >> Single: 5 Minutes >> >> Brian. >> >> > from: Amy Moseley Rupp >> > date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:53:26 >> > to: gathering@misera.net >> > subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE = BANSHEES >> > >> > > After reading this Siouxsie And The Banshees thread, i got to >wondering what it'd be like to have a sort of "Band Of The Week" thread = on >here.Seems like there's so many of you out there that know an almost = endless >amount of bands.It'd be fun to sit back and get to hear about >something/someone that i might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. >> > >> > I think it'd be great. >> > >> > Could we get everyone to *agree* on a band? It'd also be nice to >> > do old and new. Some of the bands y'all bring up as influential >> > or seminal I've never heard of, or really gotten into. For >> > example -- The Stranglers. I have a picture of my sweetie aged >> > 14 wearing a Stranglers t-shirt. But what albums and/or songs >> > are good? Used to be I had time to go to our uni's library and >> > even back in the 80s they had a music listening library where >> > you could directly request any album they had be played; you >> > then plugged into a headphone jack at a carousel, sat down and >> > listened. Some studied but I can't do both at the same time ;-) >> > You could look up at a TV monitor which listed out the channels >> > and what was on which channel, so if something of interest came >> > on, you could flip over -- of course, you'd land wherever the >> > album (usually, vinyl) was playing at the time, none of this >> > digital on-demand repositioning -- but it was a good way to >> > sample music. >> > >> > Oh for the days when I had time to go to the library! :-) >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gathering mailing list >> > Gathering@misera.net >> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> >########################################################################= #### >######### >> This Mail Was Scanned by 012.net Anti Virus Service - Powered by >TrendMicro Interscan > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003 > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 20:41:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phil) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:41:54 +0000 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? In-Reply-To: <77AD66C7.6DDD69DC.0004DF86@aol.com> References: <77AD66C7.6DDD69DC.0004DF86@aol.com> Message-ID: chelsea aswell On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:40:47 -0500, you wrote: >CHELSEA! > >Last time we asked, it seemed like Chelsea was the top team amongst the = Gathering (Antoni, Jel, Neil, me, plus more that I've forgotten). > >I can't make the 6th, I'm afraid. > >Cheers, > >Jamie > > >> ok lads show your colours >> man united here >> colesy you red or blue??? >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 20:48:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:48:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031124204830.40202.qmail@web86110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1243597808-1069706910=:39625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit vomit! Phil wrote:chelsea aswell On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:40:47 -0500, you wrote: >CHELSEA! > >Last time we asked, it seemed like Chelsea was the top team amongst the Gathering (Antoni, Jel, Neil, me, plus more that I've forgotten). > >I can't make the 6th, I'm afraid. > >Cheers, > >Jamie > > >> ok lads show your colours >> man united here >> colesy you red or blue??? >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1243597808-1069706910=:39625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
vomit!

Phil <tofield@cica.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
chelsea aswell

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:40:47 -0500, you wrote:

>CHELSEA!
>
>Last time we asked, it seemed like Chelsea was the top team amongst the Gathering (Antoni, Jel, Neil, me, plus more that I've forgotten).
>
>I can't make the 6th, I'm afraid.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jamie
>
>
>> ok lads show your colours
>> man united here
>> colesy you red or blue???
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1243597808-1069706910=:39625-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 20:50:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:50:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] OT bigtime... anyone here good with Java? In-Reply-To: <71q4svoqq6ac15eihpd3flq4eauj386dcf@4ax.com> Message-ID: <20031124205001.71231.qmail@web86104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1313503787-1069707001=:70460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit as the topic says... is anyone here any good at programming in Java? if so... I need bigtime help before I quit uni and walk the Earth like Kane in Kung Fu instead. --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1313503787-1069707001=:70460 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
as the topic says...
 
is anyone here any good at programming in Java?
 
if so... I need bigtime help before I quit uni and walk the Earth like Kane in Kung Fu instead.
 
 

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1313503787-1069707001=:70460-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 21:05:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:05:16 -0500 Subject: [kj] ot - feederz video Message-ID: <000c01c3b2ce$a9bc4180$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B2A4.C03E60C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable for feederz fans, check out the video of a june 2002 performance here: = http://www.eroplay.com/Cave/thefeederz/index.html and if you dare, try "music that smells like sex jam" featuring = "monitors" some of you may like them but if you have eaten recently or = have soup in the pot, i suggest scrolling past the hippy maids dry = humping ol' frank in the chair bits. enter the wilds of east bay hippy = and punk eroplay via frank moore's shaman cave at your own risk.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B2A4.C03E60C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
for feederz fans, check out the video of a june = 2002=20 performance here: http://www.ero= play.com/Cave/thefeederz/index.html
 
and if you dare, try "music that smells = like sex=20 jam" featuring "monitors" some of you may like them but if you = have=20 eaten recently or have soup in the pot, i suggest scrolling = past the=20 hippy maids dry humping ol' frank in the chair bits. enter the = wilds=20 of east bay hippy and punk eroplay via frank moore's = shaman cave=20 at your own risk.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B2A4.C03E60C0-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 21:21:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Christophe Barry) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:21:43 +0100 Subject: [kj] en France References: <00fe01c3b2b1$acda77a0$87ac32d4@ravenscap> Message-ID: <001901c3b2d0$f7881c20$5f02a8c0@SACHA> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C3B2D9.572F4970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ask hans ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jo=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: [kj] en France I'm going to Brittany, Finistre/Morbihan this week, can any of you = (French gatherers maybe?) recommend any sights/events for an aging rock = chick to see/experience/witness? =20 On or offlist. I'm staying in Quimper the first night and I'll be having a trip to = Carnac but want to see what else is going down. I desperately don't = want the place to look like a retirement home IKYWIM TIA jo ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C3B2D9.572F4970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ask hans
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 jo=20
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 = 6:37=20 PM
Subject: [kj] en France

I'm going to Brittany, = Finistre/Morbihan this=20 week, can any of you (French gatherers maybe?) recommend any = sights/events for=20 an aging rock chick to see/experience/witness? 
On or offlist.
I'm staying in Quimper the first = night and I'll=20 be having a trip to Carnac but want to see what else is going = down. =20 I desperately don't want the place to look like a retirement home=20 IKYWIM
TIA
jo
 
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C3B2D9.572F4970-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 21:21:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:21:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES In-Reply-To: <20031124040839.32272.qmail@web20405.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031124212153.31122.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> I've had very good luck by just reading the liner notes to all the KJ discs i have. I don't know if these are to your liking, but that's how i've found out about Juno Reactor, Natacha Atlas, Murder inc., Prong, etc...kinda like a genealogy-tree of kj's musical influence and legacy. saul --- parasikon wrote: It'd be fun > to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i > might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 21:13:44 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:13:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031124211345.56276.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> Yes, which is your preffered version? I much rather like the Live Lolapalooza version, ca.'91, i think. saul --- Alexi Hamilton wrote: "Last Beat of my Heart" still does it for me, ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 21:52:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gabriella_Wing=E5rdh?=) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:52:21 +0100 Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? References: Message-ID: <002901c3b2d5$3d95c6f0$030c43d5@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C3B2DD.9EABED90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jester=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting smoking...complications???? I quit smoking a month ago, and yes, I=B4ve been coughing up some = eh... interesting stuff as well. Not blood though. Yeah, I think you should have a doctor check that, = seriously. Ok folks, I recently quit smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far = as cravings and all that goes, I am having no issues. What I am = wondering, if any of you have quit, is are there some strange = complications, like very thick, bloody, discharge from the lungs, and a = deep cough, normal in the healing process, or should I get myself to the = hospital???? What I have been hacking up today has been pretty fucking = shocking... Uh...help!?!?! KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!=20 OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C3B2DD.9EABED90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Quitting smoking...complications????
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jester
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 7:56=20 PM
Subject: [kj] OT: Quitting=20 smoking...complications????
 
I quit smoking a month ago, and yes, = I=B4ve been=20 coughing up some eh... interesting stuff as well.
Not blood though. Yeah, I think you = should have=20 a doctor check that, seriously.

Ok = folks, I=20 recently quit smoking (almost two weeks ago), and as far as cravings = and all=20 that goes, I am having no issues. What I am wondering, if any of you = have=20 quit, is are there some strange complications, like very thick, = bloody,=20 discharge from the lungs, and a deep cough, normal in the healing = process, or=20 should I get myself to the hospital???? What I have been hacking up = today has=20 been pretty fucking=20 shocking...

Uh...help!?!?!



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------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C3B2DD.9EABED90-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 22:00:55 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gabriella_Wing=E5rdh?=) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:00:55 +0100 Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone in memoriam Message-ID: <006601c3b2d6$6f7fae50$030c43d5@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C3B2DE.D100CBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joey Ramone gets his own streetcorner: http://www.punkmagazine.com/#top /Gabriella ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C3B2DE.D100CBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Joey Ramone gets his own = streetcorner:
http://www.punkmagazine.com/#to= p
 
/Gabriella
------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C3B2DE.D100CBC0-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 08:22:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Pat Tofield) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:22:36 -0800 Subject: [kj] red or blue? In-Reply-To: <12f.35ef7f46.2cf3b4de@aol.com> Message-ID: <000401c3b32d$4cefa5a0$790aa8c0@PATRICK> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3B2EA.3ECC65A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit .......dare I mention the 'Arse" word on this list........and I'm not talking Rob's....!!! ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3B2EA.3ECC65A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

.......dare I = mention the ‘Arse” word on this = list........and I’m not talking Rob’s....!!!

 

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3B2EA.3ECC65A0-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 08:44:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Pat Tofield) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:44:15 -0800 Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone in memoriam In-Reply-To: <006601c3b2d6$6f7fae50$030c43d5@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <000801c3b330$53485fc0$790aa8c0@PATRICK> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B2ED.45251FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was never one to champion The Ramones.............. until I saw them....=92supporting=92... Adem & the Ants at Canterbury in.....well, I have absolutely no idea when it was............=9281 or 82 maybe..........Antoni, help me out here......... =20 =20 Pat =20 Ps.....they were fucking good.......in a Ramones sort of way...!!!! =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Gabriella Wing=E5rdh Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:01 PM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone in memoriam =20 Joey Ramone gets his own streetcorner: http://www.punkmagazine.com/#top =20 /Gabriella ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B2ED.45251FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I was never one to champion The = Ramones.............. until I saw them....’supporting’... Adem & the Ants at = Canterbury in.....well, I have absolutely no idea when it = was............’81 or 82 maybe..........Antoni, help me out = here.........

 

 

Pat

 

Ps.....they were fucking = good.......in a Ramones sort of way...!!!!

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: = gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Gabriella Wing=E5rdh
Sent: Monday, November = 24, 2003 2:01 PM
To: = gathering@misera.net
Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone = in memoriam

 

Joey Ramone gets his own streetcorner:

 

/Gabriella

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B2ED.45251FC0-- From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 23:19:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:19:23 -0000 Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone / Ants Gigs References: <000801c3b330$53485fc0$790aa8c0@PATRICK> Message-ID: <017201c3b2e1$65eb21c0$f2887ed4@mydomain.com> I never saw Adam & The Ants - just a bit too young really - my first gig was late April 1980 so I'd missed the "Dirk Wears White Sox" LP lineup - I did buy the Cartrouble/Kick single though on the same day I got "Bloody Revolutions" by Crass. http://www.antmusic.fsnet.co.uk/line_ups.htm It wasn't too difficult to find the site above - the gigs page is pretty comprehensive but only goes up to 1980, probably cos it's been pretty much cribbed from the CBS catalogue, which had them all listed up to mid 1980. Shame. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Tofield" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: RE: [kj] Joey Ramone in memoriam I was never one to champion The Ramones.............. until I saw them....'supporting'... Adem & the Ants at Canterbury in.....well, I have absolutely no idea when it was............'81 or 82 maybe..........Antoni, help me out here......... Pat Ps.....they were fucking good.......in a Ramones sort of way...!!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Gabriella Wingårdh Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:01 PM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone in memoriam Joey Ramone gets his own streetcorner: http://www.punkmagazine.com/#top /Gabriella From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 23:47:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:47:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] red or blue? In-Reply-To: <000401c3b32d$4cefa5a0$790aa8c0@PATRICK> from "Pat Tofield" at Nov 25, 2003 12:22:36 AM Message-ID: <200311242347.hAONlVlD017343@basil.jkm.net> > .......dare I mention the 'Arse" word on this list........and I'm not > talking Rob's....!!! I was wondering, after watching the movie _Fever Pitch_, how many times ARSEnal fans were the butt of jokes (okay, bad pun ;-)) cause of the first four letters of the name.... From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 24 23:54:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phil) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:54:20 +0000 Subject: [kj] red or blue? In-Reply-To: <200311242347.hAONlVlD017343@basil.jkm.net> References: <000401c3b32d$4cefa5a0$790aa8c0@PATRICK> <200311242347.hAONlVlD017343@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:47:31 -0600 (CST), you wrote: >I was wondering, after watching the movie _Fever Pitch_, how many >times ARSEnal fans were the butt of jokes (okay, bad pun ;-)) cause >of the first four letters of the name.... at every possible opportunity........ From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 00:09:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phil) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:09:15 +0000 Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone in memoriam In-Reply-To: <000801c3b330$53485fc0$790aa8c0@PATRICK> References: <006601c3b2d6$6f7fae50$030c43d5@oemcomputer> <000801c3b330$53485fc0$790aa8c0@PATRICK> Message-ID: saw the ramones supporting.....ahem.......U2.......at the milton keynes bowl in about 84, and they were fucking great. certainly far better than the headline act and the other supports (The Beat (mirror in the bathroom!) and billy cunting bragg). Spear of Destiny were also on, and they were pretty good. On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:44:15 -0800, you wrote: >I was never one to champion The Ramones.............. until I saw >them....=92supporting=92... Adem & the Ants at Canterbury in.....well, I >have absolutely no idea when it was............=9281 or 82 >maybe..........Antoni, help me out here......... >=20 >=20 >Pat >=20 >Ps.....they were fucking good.......in a Ramones sort of way...!!!! >=20 >=20 >-----Original Message----- >From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On >Behalf Of Gabriella Wing=E5rdh >Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:01 PM >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone in memoriam >=20 >Joey Ramone gets his own streetcorner: >http://www.punkmagazine.com/#top >=20 >/Gabriella From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 00:14:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phil) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:14:20 +0000 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? In-Reply-To: <20031124204830.40202.qmail@web86110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20031124204830.40202.qmail@web86110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1l75sv4dsp2fv5q1lfsj8of96meneg1hl3@4ax.com> well its on your shoes, not mine! lol On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:48:30 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: >vomit! > >Phil wrote:chelsea aswell > >On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 20:40:47 -0500, you wrote: > >>CHELSEA! >> >>Last time we asked, it seemed like Chelsea was the top team amongst the= Gathering (Antoni, Jel, Neil, me, plus more that I've forgotten). >> >>I can't make the 6th, I'm afraid. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Jamie >> >> >>> ok lads show your colours >>> man united here >>> colesy you red or blue??? >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering@misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >--------------------------------- >Want to chat instantly with your online friends?=A0Get the FREE = Yahoo!Messenger From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 03:07:25 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:07:25 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Best Ban&$(#&(&$/ juno reactor - matrix References: <20031124212153.31122.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003601c3b301$40f14a00$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C3B2D7.579E22C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable speaking of juno reactor, go see matrix revolutions? ben watkins laid = down some great stuff to that one.=20 the flick wasn't bad either.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: sade1=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE = BANSHEES I've had very good luck by just reading the liner notes to all the KJ discs i have. I don't know if these are to your liking, but that's how i've found out about Juno Reactor, Natacha Atlas, Murder inc., Prong, etc...kinda like a genealogy-tree of kj's musical influence and legacy. saul =20 --- parasikon wrote: It'd be fun > to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i > might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out=20 of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C3B2D7.579E22C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
speaking of juno reactor, go see matrix = revolutions? ben=20 watkins laid down some great stuff to that one.
the flick wasn't bad either.
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 sade1=20
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 = 4:21=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best = Banshees tune=20 AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES

  I've had very good luck by just reading the = liner notes=20 to all
the KJ discs i have. I don't know if these are to your=20 liking,
but that's how i've found out about Juno Reactor, Natacha=20 Atlas,
Murder inc., Prong, etc...kinda like a genealogy-tree of=20 kj's
musical influence and legacy.

saul
 
--- = parasikon=20 <parasikon@yahoo.com> = wrote:
It'd be fun
> to sit back and get to hear about=20 something/someone that i
> might not have otherwise been exposed = to=20 yet.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB?

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  of=20 the here and now
  I want to be
  another here,=20 another..."

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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C3B2D7.579E22C0-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 05:32:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:32:49 -0500 Subject: [kj] slim's pics Message-ID: <000c01c3b315$92f94280$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B2EB.A77C3660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable don't think these were posted previously: = http://www.atakra.com/pictures/killing_joke_web2003/ ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B2EB.A77C3660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
don't think these were posted previously: http://www.= atakra.com/pictures/killing_joke_web2003/
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B2EB.A77C3660-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 15:36:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Pat Tofield) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:36:12 -0800 Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone / Ants Gigs In-Reply-To: <017201c3b2e1$65eb21c0$f2887ed4@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <000201c3b369$dff15920$790aa8c0@PATRICK> Well...I know it was with Kevin Mooney on bass so that puts it at '80 to '81 according to that list Cheers Pat -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Antoni Adamiak Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:19 PM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Joey Ramone / Ants Gigs I never saw Adam & The Ants - just a bit too young really - my first gig was late April 1980 so I'd missed the "Dirk Wears White Sox" LP lineup - I did buy the Cartrouble/Kick single though on the same day I got "Bloody Revolutions" by Crass. http://www.antmusic.fsnet.co.uk/line_ups.htm It wasn't too difficult to find the site above - the gigs page is pretty comprehensive but only goes up to 1980, probably cos it's been pretty much cribbed from the CBS catalogue, which had them all listed up to mid 1980. Shame. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Tofield" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: RE: [kj] Joey Ramone in memoriam I was never one to champion The Ramones.............. until I saw them....'supporting'... Adem & the Ants at Canterbury in.....well, I have absolutely no idea when it was............'81 or 82 maybe..........Antoni, help me out here......... Pat Ps.....they were fucking good.......in a Ramones sort of way...!!!! -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Gabriella Wing=E5rdh Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:01 PM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] Joey Ramone in memoriam Joey Ramone gets his own streetcorner: http://www.punkmagazine.com/#top /Gabriella _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 10:15:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Thomas Kennedy) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:15:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Ban&$(#&(&$/ juno reactor - matrix In-Reply-To: <003601c3b301$40f14a00$338b6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031125101502.86164.qmail@web80402.mail.yahoo.com> --0-413473031-1069755302=:82560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MATRIX 2 and 3 were big piles of shit. I'ts all about RETURN OF THE KING December 17th... MASTER AND COMMANDER was decent also. Tom. p.s. and the last time I saw "JUNO REACTOR" it was a pharse of a sham! (the tribals fucked it all up, IMHO). fluw wrote: speaking of juno reactor, go see matrix revolutions? ben watkins laid down some great stuff to that one. the flick wasn't bad either. ----- Original Message ----- From: sade1 To: gathering@misera.net Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES I've had very good luck by just reading the liner notes to all the KJ discs i have. I don't know if these are to your liking, but that's how i've found out about Juno Reactor, Natacha Atlas, Murder inc., Prong, etc...kinda like a genealogy-tree of kj's musical influence and legacy. saul --- parasikon wrote: It'd be fun > to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i > might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering --0-413473031-1069755302=:82560 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
MATRIX 2 and 3 were big piles of shit.   I'ts all about RETURN OF THE KING December 17th...   MASTER AND COMMANDER was decent also.
 
Tom.
 
 
p.s.  and the last time I saw "JUNO REACTOR" it was a pharse of a sham!  (the tribals fucked it all up, IMHO).
 
 


fluw <fluwdot@earthlink.net> wrote:
speaking of juno reactor, go see matrix revolutions? ben watkins laid down some great stuff to that one.
the flick wasn't bad either.
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: sade1
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES

  I've had very good luck by just reading the liner notes to all
the KJ discs i have. I don't know if these are to your liking,
but that's how i've found out about Juno Reactor, Natacha Atlas,
Murder inc., Prong, etc...kinda like a genealogy-tree of kj's
musical influence and legacy.

saul
 
--- parasikon <parasikon@yahoo.com> wrote:
It'd be fun
> to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i
> might not have otherwise been exposed to yet.

=====
WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB?

"Get me out
  of the here and now
  I want to be
  another here, another..."

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--0-413473031-1069755302=:82560-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 10:37:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:37:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: NMA/gathering In-Reply-To: <20031123033338.60938.qmail@web80407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031125103759.28891.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com> --- Thomas Kennedy wrote: > a > post gig Gathering? > > Tom, you up for it?> > > Absolutely, I'm down..... I might make it to the > show if I can convince myself to not blow all my > cash before then. Not a huge NMA fan, but I suppose > they're worth seeing. I've seen DAVID J. before - > his stuff's weird, but what the hell he was in > BAUHAUS! :) Bauhaus Shred! Next show I'm headed out to is my own: http://www.mobilization.com/destroy1.html Then, it's The Weirdos at Slims on December 13 of course! > Tom. > > p.s. I might be at Deathguild on Monday too... ain't made it out to the new location yet! Yeah that's right! It's a Goth Club! I'm wearing Black Nail polish right now! :P Aleph > > > Djehuti111 wrote: > Greetings Michael, > > --- MIchael wrote: > > Aleph - great choice! I totally forgot about that > > one. > > Fortuately it was re-released on the "Twice upon a > Time" comp, otherwise I might've forgotten about it > too! > > > Anyone seen the > > nocturne video? I used to have that until someone > > decided to record a porno > > over it. (great porn though) > > I remember seeing it some years back and the > tracklisting being different to the ablum. > I don't recall the porn section of it though. > > > I was looking for you > > at the Sf show with Tom > > but never saw anyone that fit your description. > > It's because I'm invisible a good deal of the time. > Which is a pretty good trick if you consider that > I'm > 6'3", redheaded, dressed head to toe in black, and > am > about 85% tattooed, including the ones on the neck > and > hands. ;) > > I spent the bulk of of the evening running between > disparate groups of friends that I hadn't seen in > Millenia. > > > You > > happen to be goin gto > > NMA oon tuerday at the DNA? > > Prolly naught. > Perhaps we (The Bay Area Brethren) should organize a > post gig Gathering? > > Tom, you up for it? > > A L P > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Djehuti111" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune > > > > > > > --- Alex Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > I'd say "Spellbound," myself. > > > > > > I'm voting for the Orchestral version of > > "Overground" > > > from The Thorn E.P. > > > > > > Aleph in SF > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex in NYC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > >From: > > > > >To: gathering@misera.net > > > > >Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject) > > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:29:29 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Cascade" is clearly the best song of > Banshees. > > > > PAVEL > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Gathering mailing list > > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The > > > darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, > > the > > > silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of > > space, > > > studded with secretive and significant stars, > > formed a > > > stupendous setting for the savage noise and > blaze > > of > > > the ceremony." > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > ===== > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The > darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the > silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, > studded with secretive and significant stars, formed > a > stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of > the ceremony." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 11:01:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:01:06 -0000 Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Damned @ xmas Message-ID: <4E1B682DEDC4EB409D522C471E527DCF62CD80@wyt-s-018.europe.shell.com> See you there then Antoni - any other takers, and which pub first? Jane -----Original Message----- From: Antoni Adamiak [mailto:antoni@clara.net] Sent: 24 November 2003 20:28 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: Re: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Damned @ xmas http://www.officialdamned.com/docs/dates/dates03.html I think I might be going along to the Islington Carling Academy on = 20/12. Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shadforth, Jane E SUKOP-UOIT/42" To: Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Sorry Andreas & Antoni - can't make 30/11, as we'll be seeing Therapy? = in Wolves. We'll be in London on 20/12 to see the Damned though, so if anyone's = about, that could be another opportunity for a mini-gathering?? Jane -----Original Message----- From: Antoni Adamiak [mailto:antoni@clara.net] Sent: 22 November 2003 22:27 To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] Fw: a gathering ? Hello folks, Late notice admittedly but any chance of a London gathering next Sunday = ? I'd suggest The Churchill Arms at 7pm next Sunday (after the Chelsea vs = Man United game) - I was personally thinking of mid-December for a meet but = our list-master general is in London for a week or so it would be rude not = to. *** Sunday 30th November 2003 if you can make it *** Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Misera" To: "Antoni Adamiak" Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: Re: a gathering ? > ooooohhhh, the 30th would be absolutely fabulous!!! watch the game in = some > pub and then meet up with everybody and get drunk!!! :-) > > cheers, > -andy > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > > Hmmm, it's gonna be a struggle - I'm away on a course from 1st-4th = Dec then > > I go pick up my daughter from Luton airport on the Friday (5th) - so > > potentially there is the 6th (Saturday), otherwise maybe the 30th, = which of > > course is a Sunday night - that will be straight after the Chelsea = vs Man > > Utd game (ko 4.05pm) so that might be interesting with Jel, Jamie & = me on > > the one side and Colesy on the other ! What do you reckon ? > > > > Regards, > > > > Antoni > > > > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andreas Misera" > > To: "Antoni Adamiak" > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:11 AM > > Subject: Re: a gathering ? > > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 14:21:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tom Foolery) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:21:46 +0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID:

An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand?

The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into finnish, and realised how far the literal translation was from the meaning of the song. "Fall Of Because" was a particular pain in the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense LITERALLY in any language, so I settled for "Järkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The Overthrow of Reasoning).


luv from

Stimro

"Mummy, what's a Killing Joke?"

"A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"


STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 15:16:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stevie "workslave" Robinson) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:16:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID: <3389804.1069773370020.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I translated = the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into finnish, and realise= d how far the literal translation was from the meaning of the song. "Fall O= f Because" was a particular pain in the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense LIT= ERALLY in any language, so I settled for "J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The Ov= erthrow of Reasoning). "Fall of Because" is a quote from Alisatr Crowley,=20 http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/engccxx.htm Well, thinking about, I've always though it was, I've never known that for = a fact... From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 15:17:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stevie "workslave" Robinson) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:17:54 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID: <904914.1069773474768.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> And the quote was from Chapter III, which again I assumed was the basis of the song, there I go again jumping to assumptions... From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 16:25:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Simone Wagner) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:25:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Killing Language In-Reply-To: <3389804.1069773370020.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> Message-ID: <20031125162535.410.qmail@web41211.mail.yahoo.com> >how important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand ... to me the KJ lyrics are important as well and I *TRY* to translate them into german. > "Fall of Because" is a quote from Alisatr Crowley, > > http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/engccxx.htm > > Well, thinking about, I've always though it was, > I've never known that for a fact... ... interesting point, that the "Fall of Because" (Der Niedergang des Weil?), could be a quote from Aleister Crowley. I've found a german translation: http://www.boudicca.de/lavl3-de.htm > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 17:45:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:45:52 EST Subject: [kj] red or blue? Message-ID: --part1_a2.3f8a7c43.2cf4ef50_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 24/11/03 15:50:12 Pacific Standard Time, amyr@jump.net writes: > how many > times ARSEnal fans were the butt of jokes Well ARSEnal are managed by ARSEne Wenger and when the ARSE bought SOL from Tottenham (spit), well, it says it all doesnt it. Jelsea....Inter Milan --part1_a2.3f8a7c43.2cf4ef50_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 24/11/03 15:50:12 Pacific Standard=20= Time, amyr@jump.net writes:

how many
times ARSEnal fans were the butt of jokes


  Well ARSEnal are managed by ARSEne Wenger and when the ARSE bought SO= L from Tottenham (spit), well, it says it all doesnt it.

  Jelsea....Inter Milan --part1_a2.3f8a7c43.2cf4ef50_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 19:16:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:16:15 -0500 Subject: [kj] red or blue? Message-ID: <36268A77.63C1BBCC.398839F0@aol.com> Not the butt of any jokes in the States, because we don't say arse! Ass is the preferred term. From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 19:26:38 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:26:38 -0000 Subject: [kj] Mrs Whiskey name References: <129.35d7af44.2cf3b5e2@aol.com> Message-ID: <005c01c3b38a$0f065d80$77c18351@mycomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C3B38A.0BF1F190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable it sure is brilliant for a singalong Jel i must say=20 i find my self humming it a lot i told raven that it was the best drinking song ever! ! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jelbod@aol.com=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [kj] Mrs Whiskey name In a message dated 24/11/03 10:01:09 Pacific Standard Time, = timbucknall@killing-joke.com writes: anyone know any more about that tune? Only that i have it on a tape in me motor and me and me daughter = sing along to it to great amusement to us both.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C3B38A.0BF1F190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
it sure is brilliant for a singalong=20 Jel
i must say
i find my self humming it a = lot
 
i told raven that it was the best = drinking song=20 ever!
!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jelbod@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 = 7:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Mrs Whiskey = name

In a message dated 24/11/03 10:01:09 Pacific = Standard Time,=20 timbucknall@killing-joke.com= =20 writes:

anyone know any more about that=20 tune?


  Only that i have it on a tape in = me motor=20 and me and me daughter sing along to it to great amusement to us = both.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C3B38A.0BF1F190-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 19:44:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Marie Lecocq) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:44:29 +0100 Subject: [kj] Killing Language References: Message-ID: <004401c3b38c$8b336360$ce5c5fc3@p4u07698> C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C3B394.EBECC400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, my mother tongue is French and I must say that lyrics are very = important to me. It's funny that you should mention "Fall of because", = because it's one of the few songs that have always puzzled me (lyrically = speaking). But now that someone is mentioning Aleister Crowley, I think = it might get a bit clearer for me... Thanks, Stevie. :-) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Foolery=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [kj] Killing Language An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how = important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand?=20 The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I = translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into = finnish, and realised how far the literal translation was from the = meaning of the song. "Fall Of Because" was a particular pain in the arse = 'cos it doesn't make sense LITERALLY in any language, so I settled for = "J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The Overthrow of Reasoning). luv from Stimro "Mummy, what's a Killing Joke?" "A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex" -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* = _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list = Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C3B394.EBECC400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, my mother tongue is French and I = must say=20 that lyrics are very important to me. It's funny that you should mention = "Fall=20 of because", because it's one of the few songs that have always puzzled = me=20 (lyrically speaking). But now that someone is mentioning Aleister = Crowley, I=20 think it might get a bit clearer for me... Thanks, Stevie. = :-)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom = Foolery=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, = 2003 3:21=20 PM
Subject: [kj] Killing = Language

An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how = important=20 are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand?

The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I = translated=20 the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into finnish, and = realised=20 how far the literal translation was from the meaning of the song. = "Fall Of=20 Because" was a particular pain in the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense=20 LITERALLY in any language, so I settled for "J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen" = (The=20 Overthrow of Reasoning).


luv=20 from

Stimro

"Mummy, what's a = Killing=20 Joke?"

"A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"


STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN=20 8 and get 2 months FREE* = _______________________________________________=20 Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net=20 = http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C3B394.EBECC400-- From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 20:03:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:03:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Mrs Whiskey name - Mr. Roger In-Reply-To: <005c01c3b38a$0f065d80$77c18351@mycomputer> Message-ID: <20031125200321.83563.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> For some reason it's always also reminded (remound?) me of StuartGoddard-&-his-fun-loving-Ants' "Jolly Roger". One of my all-time favorites for singing along. So, now..is it, "hoist sail"(prob) or "hoist ale.."(that too)? At song's end, please to add Jaz's maniacal wail from the end of "Struggle". "often men of low degree and often men of steel..." saul --- Tim Bucknall wrote: > i told raven that it was the best drinking song ever! > From: Jelbod@aol.com > To: gathering@misera.net > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 7:28 PM > Subject: Re: [kj] Mrs Whiskey name ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 20:13:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:13:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Best Ban&$(#&(&$/ juno reactor - matrix#*$&%^!*# In-Reply-To: <003601c3b301$40f14a00$338b6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031125201302.55108.qmail@web11510.mail.yahoo.com> Saw it, it was good yes, but i was not overly impressed at this point of the game, after having seen the first two, tho the music was none the worse for it. I think part 3 should have stayed a part of part 2, pt2 would have given it much needed momentum and intensity. I did see BenJuno with Amanpondo at the El Rey here in L.A.(where kj played) for the Shango release. Awesome show. saul --- fluw wrote: > speaking of juno reactor, go see matrix revolutions? ben > watkins laid down some great stuff to that one. > the flick wasn't bad either. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sade1 > To: gathering@misera.net > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:21 PM > I've had very good luck by just reading the liner notes to > all > the KJ discs i have. I don't know if these are to your > liking, > but that's how i've found out about Juno Reactor, Natacha > Atlas, > Murder inc., Prong, etc...kinda like a genealogy-tree of > kj's > musical influence and legacy. > > saul > > --- parasikon wrote: > It'd be fun > > to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i > > might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 20:22:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:22:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Killing Language In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031125202219.58871.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> That's one of my fave-hilarious things to do when there's nothing else to do, sing the lyrics from your favorite songs into an(y)other language. I usu. do it from engl to spanish and in high school to Deutsch also. Try when drunk, add 2-3 friends, and stir vigorously, it's a riot. My faves to do are kj, iron maiden, Dio, the cure, pearl jam and STP. I imagine jane's addiction would be fun too. saul --- Tom Foolery wrote: An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand? The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into finnish, and realised how far the literal translation was from the meaning of the song. "Fall Of Because" was a particular pain in the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense LITERALLY in any language, so I settled for "Järkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The Overthrow of Reasoning). luv from Stimro ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Tue Nov 25 20:42:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Nika) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:42:03 +0100 Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID: <20031125204208Z351355-28708+917561@mail.centrum.cz> I know what you mean. I once translated the whole Fire dances album into Czech for a friend who speaks nearly no English at all. It looked quite nice on paper, but when we actually got to sort of singing it along to the tunes I knew I wouldn't make a career translating. It was funny, but I guess I pretty much ruined the lyrics for my friend. Nika in Prague ______________________________________________________________ > Od: sade1 > Komu: gathering@misera.net > CC: > Datum: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:22:18 -0800 (PST) > Pøedmìt: Re: [kj] Killing Language > > That's one of my fave-hilarious things to do when there's > nothing else to do, sing the lyrics from your favorite songs > into an(y)other language. I usu. do it from engl to spanish and > in high school to Deutsch also. Try when drunk, add 2-3 friends, > and stir vigorously, it's a riot. My faves to do are kj, iron > maiden, Dio, the cure, pearl jam and STP. I imagine jane's > addiction would be fun too. > > saul > > --- Tom Foolery wrote: > > An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how > important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you > understand? > > The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I > translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums > into finnish, and realised how far the literal translation was > from the meaning of the song. "Fall Of Because" was a particular > pain in the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense LITERALLY in any > language, so I settled for "Järkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The > Overthrow of Reasoning). > luv from > Stimro > > > ===== > WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? > > "Get me out > of the here and now > I want to be > another here, another..." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 02:07:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:07:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Killing Language In-Reply-To: <3389804.1069773370020.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> Message-ID: <20031126030501.L78923-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Stevie "workslave" Robinson wrote: > "Fall of Because" is a quote from Alisatr Crowley, > http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/engccxx.htm Amusing enough, my ex's dad did the Danish translation of that one. What a shit job that must have been, came out quite well, but still, it took him two years to get it done, and it's not exactly a big book, hehe. b From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 02:16:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:16:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Killing Language In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031126030759.E78923-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Tom Foolery wrote: > An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you > understand? Quite important, i'd say. With a good English language and a bit of knowledge about the history of different religions and so on, they are pretty easy to understand, language wise as well as what he's actually trying to say. Unlike, say, Wire, but then again i couldn't care less about trying to interpret their songs, to me, their vocals are just another instrument and it works fine that way. b From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 02:21:20 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (MIchael) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:21:20 -0800 Subject: [kj] OT: MNA tonight References: <20031125101502.86164.qmail@web80402.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401c3b3c3$fabbc470$5abf9b0c@dragonflke3gr5> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C3B380.EC787950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, I'll be there with my band about 9pm or shortly thereafter. So you = there.=20 Cheers Michael ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thomas Kennedy=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:15 AM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Ban&$(#&(&$/ juno reactor - matrix MATRIX 2 and 3 were big piles of shit. I'ts all about RETURN OF THE = KING December 17th... MASTER AND COMMANDER was decent also. Tom. p.s. and the last time I saw "JUNO REACTOR" it was a pharse of a = sham! (the tribals fucked it all up, IMHO). fluw wrote: speaking of juno reactor, go see matrix revolutions? ben watkins = laid down some great stuff to that one.=20 the flick wasn't bad either.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: sade1=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best Banshees tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE = BANSHEES I've had very good luck by just reading the liner notes to all the KJ discs i have. I don't know if these are to your liking, but that's how i've found out about Juno Reactor, Natacha Atlas, Murder inc., Prong, etc...kinda like a genealogy-tree of kj's musical influence and legacy. saul =20 --- parasikon wrote: It'd be fun > to sit back and get to hear about something/someone that i > might not have otherwise been exposed to yet. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out=20 of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C3B380.EC787950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom, I'll be there with my band about = 9pm or=20 shortly thereafter. So you there.
 
Cheers
 
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thomas Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, = 2003 2:15=20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best=20 Ban&$(#&(&$/ juno reactor - matrix

MATRIX 2 and 3 were big piles of shit.   I'ts all about = RETURN=20 OF THE KING December 17th...   MASTER AND COMMANDER was = decent=20 also.
 
Tom.
 
 
p.s.  and the last time I saw "JUNO REACTOR" it was a pharse = of a=20 sham!  (the tribals fucked it all up, IMHO).
 
 


fluw <fluwdot@earthlink.net>=20 wrote:
speaking of juno reactor, go see matrix = revolutions?=20 ben watkins laid down some great stuff to that one. =
the flick wasn't bad either.
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 sade1=20
Sent: Monday, November 24, = 2003 4:21=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Best = Banshees=20 tune AND I ROADIED FOR THE BANSHEES

  I've had very good luck by just reading the = liner=20 notes to all
the KJ discs i have. I don't know if these are to = your=20 liking,
but that's how i've found out about Juno Reactor, = Natacha=20 Atlas,
Murder inc., Prong, etc...kinda like a genealogy-tree of = kj's
musical influence and legacy.

saul
 
--- = parasikon <parasikon@yahoo.com>=20 wrote:
It'd be fun
> to sit back and get to hear about=20 something/someone that i
> might not have otherwise been = exposed to=20 yet.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB?

"Get = me out
 =20 of the here and now
  I want to be
  another here, = another..."

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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C3B380.EC787950-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 02:32:26 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:32:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] [OT] Marketing Message-ID: <20031126033037.E78923-100000@mother.brap.dk> Best fucking joke i have read for a long long time: The buzz word in today's business world is MARKETING. However,people often ask for a simple explanation of "Marketing." Well, here it is: You're a woman and you see a handsome guy at a party. You go up to him and say, "I'm fantastic in bed," That's Direct Marketing. You're at a party with a bunch of friends and see a handsome guy. One of your friends goes up to him and pointing at you says, "She's fantastic in bed," That's Advertising. You see a handsome guy at a party. You go up to him and get his telephone number. The next day you call and say, "Hi, I'm fantastic in bed," That's Telemarketing. You see a guy at a party, you straighten your dress. You walk up to him and pour him a drink. You say, "May I," and reach up to straighten his tie, brushing your breast lightly against his arm, and then say, "By the way, I'm fantastic in bed." That's Public Relations. You're at a party and see a handsome guy. He walks up to you and says, I hear you're fantastic in bed," That's Brand Recognition. You're at a party and see a handsome guy. He fancies you, but you talk him into going home with your friend. That's a Sales Rep. Your friend can't satisfy him so he calls you. That's Tech Support. You're on your way to a party when you realize that there could be handsome men in all these houses you're passing. So you climb onto the roof of one situated towards the center and shout at the top of your lungs, "I'm fantastic in bed!" That's Junk Mail. You are at a party, this well-built man walks up to you and gropes your breast and grabs your ass ... That's Arnold Schwarzenegger! You like it, but 20 years later your attorney decides you were offended. That's AMERICA. b From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 02:37:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:37:06 +1100 Subject: [kj] Jaz Interview Message-ID: An interview with Jaz you may not have seen: http://www.undercover.com.au/idol/killingjoke.html By the way, I saw something about a rumoured Joke tour next year - anyone got anything on that? -S ~Analysis, Paralysis~ **************************************************************** NOTICE - This message is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action based upon it. If you received this message in error please notify HIC immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of HIC. **************************************************************** From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 06:25:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Frenchy Frenzy) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:25:45 +0100 Subject: [KJ] Ultimate version of Camden show Message-ID: <000001c3b3e6$271da4d0$1400000a@Nathalie> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3B3EE.88E20CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, =20 Just enjoy with another sound this unforgettable gig. I don=92t know the girl who was talking to me during the intro ( and saying many many thanks for the =93 TIIIIIICKEEEET ) She might be the one who John Paul sold the spared ticket he had for me. She=92s now famous=85thank to her voice ;o) =20 St=E9phane =20 NB; thanks again Ana for putting this on line =20 =20 http://www.joker-place.net/audio/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3B3EE.88E20CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

Just enjoy = with another sound this unforgettable gig.

I = don’t know the girl who was talking to me during the intro ( and saying many many = thanks for the “ TIIIIIICKEEEET )

She might = be the one who John Paul sold the spared ticket he had for = me.

She’s= now famous…thank to her voice ;o)

 

St=E9phane<= /span>

 

NB; thanks = again Ana for putting this on line

 

 

http://www.joker-pla= ce.net/audio/index.html

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3B3EE.88E20CD0-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 06:51:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Geoffrey ODonoghue) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:51:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] KJ live in Brisbane - LONG! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031126065151.32287.qmail@web80710.mail.yahoo.com> --0-841890675-1069829511=:27018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all I have been pretty slack about writing this review considering the show was last Friday but I was waiting to hear more about the reported deaths in the KJ touring party before I jumped in with an unimportant (by comparison) concert review. No further information has been forthcoming about this incident (and I haven't been able to find any mention of it on the news sites) so here goes. When I first heard the Joke were coming to town I asked a couple of mates if they would be interested in going but expected a negative response. They were both fairly keen however and so it was a group of three of us that fronted up around 8:15 at the Arena in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley (the valley is described on Brisbane City Council's website as follows: The Valley is now famous for clubs and restaurants – along Ann and Brunswick Streets you'll find DJs and live music for the fans, the backpacking brigade and the alternative set. This area boasts all-hours bars, coffee shops and restaurants). It's also a bit grubby and, at times, dangerous - just the place to go to and see Killing Joke. After getting a round of over-priced beers in we stood behind the sound desk where a tall blondish guy with a receding hairline and cargo pants asked us for help in opening the CD player. Blimey, I thought, that guy looks like Geordie - he must be a dead keen fan - imitation being the sincerest form of flattery and all that. Needless to say it was, in fact, the maestro himself and, after succeeding in putting on a CDR of some sort of English rap (excuse my ignorance), he proceeded to the far end of the bar where he consumed beer after beer (no vodka as far as I could see - just the VBs) for the next hour or so. No I didn't go up and talk to him - because a) I'm somewhat shy and retiring and b) I had no idea what to say. Geordie seemed to be in a very happy mood, dispensing hugs to various associates - mostly women. My companions expressed the opinion that he looked "half cut" and speculated about his ability to play (or even stand) later on in the evening. The opening act, Headkase, was due to start at 9:00 according to the soundman's schedule (KJ's start time was down as 10:30) and they promptly took the stage at that time. I have to say that I quite enjoyed the performance although their unique style of music took me somewhat by surprise - imagine a band that employs the same song structure as Mr Bungle (i.e. chaotic) with death metal cookie monster vocals. They played a strangely entertaining 45-minute set. 10:30 came and went of course. By this time we had relocated ourselves to the second row right in front of Raven's position. I noticed a likable looking lad purposefully making his way around the band's gear making sure that all was in readiness. Hmmm... there can't be too many blokes in Australia with t-shirts advertising Tattoo Parlours in Anchorage, Alaska (I thought to myself). My conclusion was that this was, in fact, the Gathering's own Cliff - nice to put a face to a name. At 10:55 the lights dimmed and Faith Healer started up. I hadn't realised that they played the whole song beginning to end - the crowd of 400 odd were getting somewhat agitated as it played through. Then as the keyboard introduction to Communion started, I realised one of my fondest dreams was about to come true - I was going to see KJ live! I had had my reservations about the crowd before the show (I thought they looked uninterested - like they were just there because it was something to do) but they immediately proved me wrong when they gave the band a big welcome - the volume increasing when Jaz took the stage. I have to admit that the next hour and 40 minutes was a bit of a blur for me. I remember screaming out the lyrics (or approximate versions) for all the songs, dancing like a lunatic and, at times, just standing there with a big shit-eating grin on my face. It was f**king brilliant. The sound was muddy, you could hardly hear Jaz between numbers - none of it mattered. This was Killing Joke and they were magnificent - everything I expected them to be. Jaz seemed to be having a good time and he responded strongly to the feedback from the crowd. Geordie was a revelation - how the f**k can he get those sounds out of a guitar that he seems to be strumming gently while staring blankly into space with a bemused half smile on his face? Mr Raven was also in fine form - he seems to take his interaction with the audience very seriously - especially with the female members! Keyboards were handled very well by the new guy whose name momentarily escapes me. Mr Parsons treated us to a blistering barrage of drums. He didn't put a foot wrong (or should that be a stick) at any time - my favourite moments of his were during Follow the Leaders - what a thunderous display. That brings me to the set list which was as follows: Communion (not a particular favourite of mine but a great live song) Requiem (great drums by Ted) Total Invasion (a highlight - very well received by the crowd) Wardance (time to mosh) Blood on Your Hands (also a crowd favourite) Change (time to dance) Seeing Red (big crowd response for the chorus) Fall of Because (got a somewhat subdued hearing) The Death and Resurrection Show (and the crowd was at it again) Kings and Queens (some entertaining teasing between Jaz and Geordie) The Wait (we were still trying to dance) Asteroid (Jaz poured scorn on our pathetically hoarse attempts at the chorus) Whiteout (this was f**king brilliant - a longer version would have killed us) Frenzy (another somewhat subdued response) Pssyche (but then we were at it again) (encores) Follow the Leaders (very very good - as mentioned above Ted was blisteringly loud) Pandemonium (another crowd favourite but by this time we were knackered) The set list on the soundboard had Loose Cannon before Follow the Leaders but they must have decided to give it a miss for some reason. That's all folks - sorry to go on so long but this concert was a significant event for me. I only hope it won't be a once in a lifetime thing. Geoff --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-841890675-1069829511=:27018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 

Hi all

I have been pretty slack about writing this review considering the show was last Friday but I was waiting to hear more about the reported deaths in the KJ touring party before I jumped in with an unimportant (by comparison) concert review. No further information has been forthcoming about this incident (and I haven't been able to find any mention of it on the news sites) so here goes.

When I first heard the Joke were coming to town I asked a couple of mates if they would be interested in going but expected a negative response. They were both fairly keen however and so it was a group of three of us that fronted up around 8:15 at the Arena in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley (the valley is described on Brisbane City Council's website as follows: The Valley is now famous for clubs and restaurants – along Ann and Brunswick Streets you'll find DJs and live music for the fans, the backpacking brigade and the alternative set. This area boasts all-hours bars, coffee shops and restaurants). It's also a bit grubby and, at times, dangerous - just the place to go to and see Killing Joke.

After getting a round of over-priced beers in we stood behind the sound desk where a tall blondish guy with a receding hairline and cargo pants asked us for help in opening the CD player. Blimey, I thought, that guy looks like Geordie - he must be a dead keen fan - imitation being the sincerest form of flattery and all that. Needless to say it was, in fact, the maestro himself and, after succeeding in putting on a CDR of some sort of English rap (excuse my ignorance), he proceeded to the far end of the bar where he consumed beer after beer (no vodka as far as I could see - just the VBs) for the next hour or so. No I didn't go up and talk to him - because a) I'm somewhat shy and retiring and b) I had no idea what to say. Geordie seemed to be in a very happy mood, dispensing hugs to various associates - mostly women. My companions expressed the opinion that he looked "half cut" and speculated about his ability to play (or even stand) later on in the evening. 

The opening act, Headkase, was due to start at 9:00 according to the soundman's schedule (KJ's start time was down as 10:30) and they promptly took the stage at that time. I have to say that I quite enjoyed the performance although their unique style of music took me somewhat by surprise - imagine a band that employs the same song structure as Mr Bungle (i.e. chaotic) with death metal cookie monster vocals. They played a strangely entertaining 45-minute set. 

10:30 came and went of course. By this time we had relocated ourselves to the second row right in front of Raven's position. I noticed a likable looking lad purposefully making his way around the band's gear making sure that all was in readiness. Hmmm... there can't be too many blokes in Australia with t-shirts advertising Tattoo Parlours in Anchorage, Alaska (I thought to myself). My conclusion was that this was, in fact, the Gathering's own Cliff - nice to put a face to a name.

At 10:55 the lights dimmed and Faith Healer started up. I hadn't realised that they played the whole song beginning to end - the crowd of 400 odd were getting somewhat agitated as it played through. Then as the keyboard introduction to Communion started, I realised one of my fondest dreams was about to come true - I was going to see KJ live!

I had had my reservations about the crowd before the show (I thought they looked uninterested - like they were just there because it was something to do) but they immediately proved me wrong when they gave the band a big welcome - the volume increasing when Jaz took the stage. I have to admit that the next hour and 40 minutes was a bit of a blur for me. I remember screaming out the lyrics (or approximate versions) for all the songs, dancing like a lunatic and, at times, just standing there with a big shit-eating grin on my face. It was f**king brilliant. The sound was muddy, you could hardly hear Jaz between numbers - none of it mattered. This was Killing Joke and they were magnificent - everything I expected them to be. Jaz seemed to be having a good time and he responded strongly to the feedback from the crowd. Geordie was a revelation - how the f**k can he get those sounds out of a guitar that he seems to be strumming gently while staring blankly into space with a bemused half smile on his face? Mr Raven was also in fine form - he seems to take his interaction with the audience very seriously - especially with the female members! Keyboards were handled very well by the new guy whose name momentarily escapes me. Mr Parsons treated us to a blistering barrage of drums. He didn't put a foot wrong (or should that be a stick) at any time - my favourite moments of his were during Follow the Leaders - what a thunderous display. That brings me to the set list which was as follows:

Communion (not a particular favourite of mine but a great live song) 
Requiem (great drums by Ted)
Total Invasion (a highlight - very well received by the crowd)
Wardance (time to mosh)
Blood on Your Hands (also a crowd favourite)
Change (time to dance)
Seeing Red (big crowd response for the chorus)
Fall of Because (got a somewhat subdued hearing)
The Death and Resurrection Show (and the crowd was at it again)
Kings and Queens (some entertaining teasing between Jaz and Geordie)
The Wait (we were still trying to dance)
Asteroid (Jaz poured scorn on our pathetically hoarse attempts at the chorus)
Whiteout (this was f**king brilliant - a longer version would have killed us)  
Frenzy (another somewhat subdued response) 
Pssyche (but then we were at it again)

(encores)
Follow the Leaders (very very good - as mentioned above Ted was blisteringly loud) 
Pandemonium (another crowd favourite but by this time we were knackered) 

The set list on the soundboard had Loose Cannon before Follow the Leaders but they must have decided to give it a miss for some reason.

That's all folks - sorry to go on so long but this concert was a significant event for me. I only hope it won't be a once in a lifetime thing. 

Geoff  

 
 

 

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Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-841890675-1069829511=:27018-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 07:32:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tom Foolery) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:32:37 +0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Language/TAPPAVA VITSI Message-ID:



Well here they are...

 

TAPPAVA VITSI

SIELUMESSU

SOTATANSSI

HUOMISEN MAAILMA

METSÄSTYS

ODOTUS

SEKAANUKSIA

SO36 [KAAKOINEN KOLMEKYMMENTÄKUUSI]

PRIMITIIVINEN

Mitä TÄMÄ Kannuttaa

JÄRKEILYN KUKISTUMINEN

JÄNNITYS

HIRVEÄÄ

TEURASTAJA

SEURAKAA JOHTAJAT

HUULLUUSTA

KUKA OPETTI...

ULOS



 

luv from

Stimro

"Mummy, what's a Killing Joke?"

"A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"


Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 07:36:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:36:29 -0900 Subject: [kj] Cliff References: Message-ID: <002901c3b3f0$02204ca0$ea9e70d1@antifrz> Hello Gathering , I'm Back in Alaska,thanks for the drinks in Nyc Colsey. What a wild ride it was folks.Great experience and all.Great bunch ... was a pleasure to work for them,and get to all the US and Australia shows.My condolences to the people who missed any of the shows.Really wished i had more time to meet a few of the gathering that were at some shows,had to maintain focus and work was nonstop.Cheers to you all,i'm relaxing and will be back online,and chatting on K-J.com hope to see ya in a few hours and some much need attention from the Mrs and some rest,haha. Sincerly,Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike coles" To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:24 AM Subject: [kj] Cliff > Kara, did the big man go to Oz? > cheers, > colesy > -- > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 07:53:58 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:53:58 -0600 Subject: [kj] Cliff In-Reply-To: <002901c3b3f0$02204ca0$ea9e70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: So, uh, how were the groupies???? Hahaha Cheers to ya Cliff, glad your back safely. Lots of catching up to do in the near future... On 11/26/03 1:36 AM, "Cliff and Kara Livingston" wrote: > Hello Gathering , > I'm Back in Alaska,thanks for the drinks in Nyc Colsey. > What a wild ride it was folks.Great experience and all.Great bunch ... was a > pleasure to work for them,and get to all the US and Australia shows.My > condolences to the people who missed any of the shows.Really wished i had > more time to meet a few of the gathering that were at some shows,had to > maintain focus and work was nonstop.Cheers to you all,i'm relaxing and will > be back online,and chatting on K-J.com hope to see ya in a few hours and > some much need attention from the Mrs and some rest,haha. > Sincerly,Cliff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mike coles" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:24 AM > Subject: [kj] Cliff > > >> Kara, did the big man go to Oz? >> cheers, >> colesy >> -- >> Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk >> ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 08:55:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:55:30 +0000 Subject: [kj] cliff Message-ID: --============_-1142285562==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Cliff writ: Hello Gathering , I'm Back in Alaska,thanks for the drinks in Nyc Colsey. Welcome back Cliff, it was good to meet you in NYC. You can ply me with drink next time I'm in Alaska!! cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142285562==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" cliff
Cliff writ:
Hello Gathering ,
I'm Back in Alaska,thanks for the drinks in Nyc Colsey.
Welcome back Cliff, it was good to meet you in NYC.
You can ply me with drink next time I'm in Alaska!!
cheers,
colesy
--
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk
... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
--============_-1142285562==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 10:40:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:40:27 +0000 Subject: [kj] the face Message-ID: --============_-1142279265==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Phil writed: hi mike who is the face in the center fold of the first album ? every time i see it the same question pops up,its one of my faverite album covers,along with fiction by the comsat angels, i,m sure your tryed of telling the story of this cover but i guess i must have missed it cheers phil It is none other than my mate Arthur Ellis. The photo is a still from the short film he made for his film school graduation. He played a deranged Vietnam vet. So now you know. At the moment I'm trying to persuade him to do a cover version of "they're coming to take me away haha..." to release on malicious damage, so you might well be seeing more of him next year. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142279265==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" the face
Phil writed:
hi mike
      who is the face in the center fold of the first album ? every time i see it the same question pops up,its one of my faverite album covers,along with fiction by the comsat angels, i,m sure your tryed of telling the story of this cover but i guess i must have missed it
           cheers
                    phil
It is none other than my mate Arthur Ellis.
The photo is a still from the short film he made for his film school graduation.
He played a deranged Vietnam vet.
So now you know.
At the moment I'm trying to persuade him to do a cover version of "they're coming to take me away haha..." to release on malicious damage, so you might well be seeing more of him next year.
cheers,
colesy
--
Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk
... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk
--============_-1142279265==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 11:27:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?bluce=20ree?=) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:27:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Pandys remix bluce style In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031126112737.11576.qmail@web86110.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1230896608-1069846057=:9081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Loves, I've uploaded my remix of Pandys to www.bluceree.co.uk just go to music section. I've not taken too many liberties with it, well maybe a few. It's a bit rough right now cos I should be doing coursework and not remixing slabs of KJ tunes but the idea is there. Cheers Rich --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1230896608-1069846057=:9081 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello Loves,

I've uploaded my remix of Pandys to www.bluceree.co.uk just go to music section.  I've not taken too many liberties with it, well maybe a few.  It's a bit rough right now cos I should be doing coursework and not remixing slabs of KJ tunes but the idea is there.

Cheers

Rich

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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3B411.B75572A0-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 11:27:56 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jari Pakarinen) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:27:56 +0200 Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID: <774150775dbb.775dbb774150@utu.fi> Hi=2C They are probably as important as guitar and drums in KJ for me=2E Especi= ally I=27ve felt that best lyrics from Brighter are the best ever written= (Twilight=2C Chessboards etc=2E) ANYWHERE=2E Translating them to finnish is a bit of a task=2C really=2E Meaning of th= e words is different=2C so they don=27t quite add up=2E = Jari (from Finland) ---------------- An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how importan= t are Jaz=27s lyrics to you and how much do you understand=3F = The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I translate= d the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into finnish=2C and r= ealised how far the literal translation was from the meaning of the song=2E= =22Fall Of Because=22 was a particular pain in the arse =27cos it doesn=27= t make sense LITERALLY in any language=2C so I settled for =22J=E4rkeilyn= Kukistuminen=22 (The Overthrow of Reasoning)=2E luv from Stimro =22Mummy=2C what=27s a Killing Joke=3F=22 =22A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex=22 From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 11:29:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jari Pakarinen) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:29:07 +0200 Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID: <772036777a60.777a60772036@utu.fi> You could also think of fall as autumn or =22syksy=22 in finnish=2E ----- Original Message ----- From=3A =22Stevie =5C=22workslave=5C=22 Robinson=22 =3Cheiferboy=40robins= onworld=2Efreeserve=2Eco=2Euk=3E Date=3A Tuesday=2C November 25=2C 2003 5=3A16 pm Subject=3A Re=3A =5Bkj=5D Killing Language =3E = =3E The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I = =3E translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into = =3E finnish=2C and realised how far the literal translation was from the = =3E meaning of the song=2E =22Fall Of Because=22 was a particular pain in= = =3E the arse =27cos it doesn=27t make sense LITERALLY in any language=2C = so = =3E I settled for =22J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen=22 (The Overthrow of Reason= ing)=2E =3E = =3E = =3E =22Fall of Because=22 is a quote from Alisatr Crowley=2C = =3E = =3E http=3A//www=2Esacred-texts=2Ecom/oto/engccxx=2Ehtm =3E = =3E Well=2C thinking about=2C I=27ve always though it was=2C I=27ve never= known = =3E that for a fact=2E=2E=2E =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E Gathering mailing list =3E Gathering=40misera=2Enet =3E http=3A//four=2Epairlist=2Enet/mailman/listinfo/gathering =3E From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 13:31:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Andreas Misera) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:31:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [kj] OT - jacko recommendations Message-ID: go to http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/music/B0000DJE9R/advice/002-4184854-9963268 and look at the recommendations... -a. ******************************************************* Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" ******************************************************* From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 13:34:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (foolscircle9ways) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:34:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031126030501.L78923-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <20031126133427.19623.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-268310559-1069853667=:18156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've recently met a brave soul here in Warsaw who did a Polish translation! Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley? S Bo Krogsgaard wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Stevie "workslave" Robinson wrote: > "Fall of Because" is a quote from Alisatr Crowley, > http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/engccxx.htm Amusing enough, my ex's dad did the Danish translation of that one. What a shit job that must have been, came out quite well, but still, it took him two years to get it done, and it's not exactly a big book, hehe. b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-268310559-1069853667=:18156 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I've recently met a brave soul here in Warsaw who did a Polish translation!
 
Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley?
 
S
 
 
Bo Krogsgaard <t23@mother.brap.dk> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Stevie "workslave" Robinson wrote:

> "Fall of Because" is a quote from Alisatr Crowley,
> http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/engccxx.htm

Amusing enough, my ex's dad did the Danish translation of that one. What a
shit job that must have been, came out quite well, but still, it took him
two years to get it done, and it's not exactly a big book, hehe.


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T. >From: "Frenchy Frenzy" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: >Subject: [KJ] Ultimate version of Camden show >Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:25:45 +0100 > >Hi all, > > > >Just enjoy with another sound this unforgettable gig. > >I don’t know the girl who was talking to me during the intro ( and >saying many many thanks for the “ TIIIIIICKEEEET ) > >She might be the one who John Paul sold the spared ticket he had for me. > >She’s now famous…thank to her voice ;o) > > > >Stéphane > > > >NB; thanks again Ana for putting this on line > > > > > >http://www.joker-place.net/audio/index.html > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 14:00:26 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (peter.west410) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:00:26 -0000 Subject: [kj] Re: We... are... going.. to.. do... an... UPGRADE!! References: Message-ID: <002801c3b425$a5572fd0$d36cff3e@yourby3nr533ht> ----- Original Message ----- From: "death wish" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 1:47 PM Subject: [kj] Re: We... are... going.. to.. do... an... UPGRADE!! > > Even better sound on that fantastic Camden show - thanks! > > T. > > >From: "Frenchy Frenzy" > >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > >To: > >Subject: [KJ] Ultimate version of Camden show > >Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:25:45 +0100 > > > >Hi all, > > > > > > > >Just enjoy with another sound this unforgettable gig. > > > >I don't know the girl who was talking to me during the intro ( and > >saying many many thanks for the " TIIIIIICKEEEET ) > > > >She might be the one who John Paul sold the spared ticket he had for me. > > > >She's now famous.thank to her voice ;o) > > > > > > > >Stéphane > > > > > > > >NB; thanks again Ana for putting this on line > > > >Really good sound,But who asked "oh did you get a ticket then",like ,"no im still outside" .own up who was it? > > > > > > > >http://www.joker-place.net/audio/index.html > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn .com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 14:22:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:22:52 -0500 Subject: [kj] Jaz Interview Message-ID: <200311261423.hAQENRcw004993@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Quoth Jaz: "We've got Ted Parsons who is of Swans and Prawn tradition" Do you think this is an intentional dig? Or is the writer just not familiar with Prong and not comprehending Jaz's pronunciation? Alex in NYC ---------- >From: scott.lambeth@hic.gov.au >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] Jaz Interview >Date: Tue, Nov 25, 2003, 9:37 PM > > >An interview with Jaz you may not have seen: > >http://www.undercover.com.au/idol/killingjoke.html > >By the way, I saw something about a rumoured Joke tour next year - anyone >got anything on that? > >-S > >~Analysis, Paralysis~ > > > > > > >**************************************************************** >NOTICE - This message is intended only for the use of the >addressee named above and may contain privileged and >confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient >of this message you are hereby notified that you must not >disseminate, copy or take any action based upon it. 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Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "Cliff and Kara Livingston" >To: >Subject: Re: [kj] Cliff >Date: Wed, Nov 26, 2003, 2:36 AM > >Hello Gathering , >I'm Back in Alaska,thanks for the drinks in Nyc Colsey. >What a wild ride it was folks.Great experience and all.Great bunch ... was a >pleasure to work for them,and get to all the US and Australia shows.My >condolences to the people who missed any of the shows.Really wished i had >more time to meet a few of the gathering that were at some shows,had to >maintain focus and work was nonstop.Cheers to you all,i'm relaxing and will >be back online,and chatting on K-J.com hope to see ya in a few hours and >some much need attention from the Mrs and some rest,haha. >Sincerly,Cliff > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "mike coles" >To: >Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:24 AM >Subject: [kj] Cliff > > >> Kara, did the big man go to Oz? >> cheers, >> colesy >> -- >> Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk >> ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 14:56:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:56:22 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT - jacko recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Uh, Andy, did you do that? Fucking funny as hell On 11/26/03 7:31 AM, "Andreas Misera" wrote: > go to > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/music/B0000DJE9R/advice/0 > 02-4184854-9963268 > > and look at the recommendations... > > -a. > > ******************************************************* > Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... > ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" > ******************************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 14:58:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (P Bernardi) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:58:22 -0500 Subject: [kj] Killing Language References: <004401c3b38c$8b336360$ce5c5fc3@p4u07698> Message-ID: <3FC4BF8E.1050503@erols.com> --------------040609020504070403040301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In Chicago, before launching into Fall of Because, Jaz said (and Im=20 paraphrasing here): "This is a song about waking up one day and knowing=20 everything around you is wrong. And having to learn to unlearn=20 everything you've been taught." Marie Lecocq wrote: > Well, my mother tongue is French and I must say that lyrics are very=20 > important to me. It's funny that you should mention "Fall of because", = > because it's one of the few songs that have always puzzled me=20 > (lyrically speaking). But now that someone is mentioning Aleister=20 > Crowley, I think it might get a bit clearer for me... Thanks, Stevie. := -) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Foolery > To: gathering@misera.net > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:21 PM > Subject: [kj] Killing Language > > An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how > important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand? > > The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I > translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into > finnish, and realised how far the literal translation was from the > meaning of the song. "Fall Of Because" was a particular pain in > the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense LITERALLY in any language, so > I settled for "J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The Overthrow of Reasonin= g). > > > luv from > > Stimro > > "Mummy, what's a Killing Joke?" > > "A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex" > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 > and get 2 months FREE* > _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing > list Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > --------------040609020504070403040301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In Chicago, before launching into Fall of Because, Jaz said (and Im paraphrasing here): "This is a song about waking up one day and knowing everything around you is wrong. And having  to learn to unlearn everything you've been taught."

Marie Lecocq wrote:
Well, my mother tongue is French and I must say that lyrics are very important to me. It's funny that you should mention "Fall of because", because it's one of the few songs that have always puzzled me (lyrically speaking). But now that someone is mentioning Aleister Crowley, I think it might get a bit clearer for me... Thanks, Stevie. :-)
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:21 PM
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An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand?

The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into finnish, and realised how far the literal translation was from the meaning of the song. "Fall Of Because" was a particular pain in the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense LITERALLY in any language, so I settled for "Järkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The Overthrow of Reasoning).


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--------------040609020504070403040301-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 15:01:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Andreas Misera) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:01:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: [kj] OT - jacko recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: nah, i didn't do it, but it is indeed very amusing! On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Jester wrote: > Uh, Andy, did you do that? Fucking funny as hell > > > On 11/26/03 7:31 AM, "Andreas Misera" wrote: > > > go to > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/music/B0000DJE9R/advice/0 > > 02-4184854-9963268 > > > > and look at the recommendations... > > > > -a. > > > > ******************************************************* > > Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... > > ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" > > ******************************************************* > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > THE WEBMASTER, > JESTER > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > There is no place like 127.0.0.1 > > "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or > Gates?" > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > ******************************************************* Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" ******************************************************* From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 15:06:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:06:48 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT- Even the Queen's Flowers Aren't Safe From the Bushites Message-ID: <003101c3b42e$ec444be0$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C3B405.01138B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BUSH AND CAPOS TRASH BUCKINGHAM PALACE GROUNDS http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/content_objectid=3D13652625 _ THE Queen is furious with President George W. Bush after his state visit caused thousands of pounds of damage to her gardens at Buckingham Palace. Royal officials are now in touch with the Queen's insurers and Prime Minister Tony Blair to find out who will pick up the massive repair bill. Palace staff said they had never seen the Queen so angry as when she saw how her perfectly-maintained lawns had been churned up after being turned into helipads with three giant H landing markings for the Bush visit. The rotors of the President's Marine Force One helicopter and ! two support Black Hawks damaged trees and shrubs that had survived since Queen Victoria's reign. And Bush's army of clod-hopping security service men trampled more precious and exotic plants. The Queen's own flock of flamingoes, which security staff insisted should be moved in case they flew into the helicopter rotors, are thought to be so traumatized after being taken to a "place of safety" that they might never return home. . . The Palace's head gardener, Mark Lane, was reported to be in tears when he saw the scale of the damage. "The Queen has every right to feel insulted at the way she has been treated by Bush," said a Palace insider. . . "The lawns are used for royal garden parties and are beautifully kept. But 30,000 visitors did not do as much damage as the Americans did in three days. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C3B405.01138B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C3B405.01138B00-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 15:05:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:05:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031126133427.19623.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031126160304.A5497-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, foolscircle9ways wrote: > I've recently met a brave soul here in Warsaw who did a Polish translation! > Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley? If i'm not all mistaken, "wines that foam" is from the same book. I bet you there are more, but i can't think of any right away. b From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 15:08:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:08:05 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] OT - jacko recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031126160739.K5497-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Andreas Misera wrote: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/music/B0000DJE9R/advice/002-4184854-9963268 > and look at the recommendations... I bet you Joe wrote a couple of those .. b From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 15:20:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (foolscircle9ways) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:20:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031126160304.A5497-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <20031126152002.6096.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-125087585-1069860002=:5241 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How about Crowley-inspired artwork on the sleeves? Colesy, you got anything to say? Bo Krogsgaard wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, foolscircle9ways wrote: > I've recently met a brave soul here in Warsaw who did a Polish translation! > Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley? If i'm not all mistaken, "wines that foam" is from the same book. I bet you there are more, but i can't think of any right away. b _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-125087585-1069860002=:5241 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
How about Crowley-inspired artwork on the sleeves?
Colesy, you got anything to say?

Bo Krogsgaard <t23@mother.brap.dk> wrote:

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, foolscircle9ways wrote:

> I've recently met a brave soul here in Warsaw who did a Polish translation!
> Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley?

If i'm not all mistaken, "wines that foam" is from the same book. I bet
you there are more, but i can't think of any right away.


b


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Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-125087585-1069860002=:5241-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 15:57:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:57:07 -0500 Subject: [kj] Jaz Interview Message-ID: <20031126155708.KCIQ10930.smtp02.fuse.net@smtp.fuse.net> I'd say the latter, personally speaking. To the writer's great credit, he'd never heard of "Sarah Brighton" either. Lucky man. I never thought any female voice could be more annoying than that one out of the Cocteau Twins, but hers is. I wonder how difficult a karaoke version of Harem would be to come by? > From: "Alex Smith" > Date: 2003/11/26 Wed AM 09:22:52 EST > To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Interview > > > > Quoth Jaz: "We've got Ted Parsons who is of Swans and Prawn tradition" > > Do you think this is an intentional dig? Or is the writer just not familiar > with Prong and not comprehending Jaz's pronunciation? > > Alex in NYC From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 16:03:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:03:27 +0000 Subject: [kj] me? Message-ID: --============_-1142259884==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" How about Crowley-inspired artwork on the sleeves? Colesy, you got anything to say? Yeah, I never shut up... -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk --============_-1142259884==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" me?
How about Crowley-inspired artwork on the sleeves?
Colesy, you got anything to say?
Yeah, I never shut up...
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--============_-1142259884==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 16:32:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (nicholas fitzpatrick) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:32:06 +0000 Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" Message-ID: And on a very similar point, why is the freemason square and compass on the Revelations sleeve, exactly? Does Jaz know the funny handshakes? >From: foolscircle9ways >How about Crowley-inspired artwork on the sleeves? >Colesy, you got anything to say? > >Bo Krogsgaard wrote: > >On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, foolscircle9ways wrote: > > > I've recently met a brave soul here in Warsaw who did a Polish >translation! > > Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley? > >If i'm not all mistaken, "wines that foam" is from the same book. I bet >you there are more, but i can't think of any right away. > > >b > > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room. > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 16:46:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (foolscircle9ways) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:46:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] me? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031126164642.11137.qmail@web10009.mail.yahoo.com> --0-251741698-1069865201=:10728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And pictures speak a thousand words, yes? http://www.rahoorkhuit.net/library/thoth/trumps/magician.html http://www.studio-c.co.uk/killingjoke/kj4.html Curiouser and curiouser... mike coles wrote: How about Crowley-inspired artwork on the sleeves? Colesy, you got anything to say? Yeah, I never shut up... -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-251741698-1069865201=:10728 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
And pictures speak a thousand words, yes?
 
Curiouser and curiouser...

mike coles <mike@maliciousdamage.co.uk> wrote:
How about Crowley-inspired artwork on the sleeves?
Colesy, you got anything to say?
Yeah, I never shut up...
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Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-251741698-1069865201=:10728-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 18:05:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tim Bucknall) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:05:50 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT - jacko recommendations References: Message-ID: <00ed01c3b447$f1148f40$ab7d8351@mycomputer> genius! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Misera" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [kj] OT - jacko recommendations > nah, i didn't do it, but it is indeed very amusing! > > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Jester wrote: > > > Uh, Andy, did you do that? Fucking funny as hell > > > > > > On 11/26/03 7:31 AM, "Andreas Misera" wrote: > > > > > go to > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/music/B0000DJE9R/advice /0 > > > 02-4184854-9963268 > > > > > > and look at the recommendations... > > > > > > -a. > > > > > > ******************************************************* > > > Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... > > > ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" > > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Gathering mailing list > > > Gathering@misera.net > > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! > > OCCISIO LOCATIO > > > > THE WEBMASTER, > > JESTER > > WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM > > WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > > > > There is no place like 127.0.0.1 > > > > "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or > > Gates?" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > ******************************************************* > Andreas Misera - andreas@misera.net ****............... > ................"are you constant to the old covenant?" > ******************************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 18:29:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:29:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031126133427.19623.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031126182900.90842.qmail@web20211.mail.yahoo.com> --- foolscircle9ways wrote: > Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley? KJ were my introduction to Crowley, and without going too deep into the topic onlist (cos I can hear " Ach! here he goes again!" on the lips of many a Gatherer who's been here for awhile. I guess I'm a bit "notorious" when the topic of Uncle Al comes up.) there are a glut of lyrics, song titles, interviews etc. that show Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" up until around the BTATS era. Jaz seems to have broadened his spiritual horizons at that point, although lines from The Book of the Law (which is where the Fall of Because line originates.) are scattered throughout the next few albums and have even surfaced in the film that he did recently ("Drink wines that foam. Take strange drugs they shall not harm ye at all...is a lie") The Year of the Devil I believe it was called? I was looking forward to talking to Jaz about all things Metaphysic at the recent SF show, but Jello Biafra wedged himself between us! Oh well, age before beauty as they say. ;) Feel free to contact me offlist if you'd like more info. Aleph ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 04:39:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Pat Tofield) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:39:03 -0800 Subject: [KJ] Ultimate version of Camden show In-Reply-To: <000001c3b3e6$271da4d0$1400000a@Nathalie> Message-ID: <000001c3b4a0$6486d1b0$790aa8c0@PATRICK> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3B45D.56651850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Deep joy on hearing this........!!!! =20 A great recording of a stunning gig!=20 =20 Cheers to all concerned....... =20 Pat =20 -----Original Message----- From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net] On Behalf Of Frenchy Frenzy Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:26 PM To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [KJ] Ultimate version of Camden show =20 Hi all, =20 Just enjoy with another sound this unforgettable gig. I don=92t know the girl who was talking to me during the intro ( and saying many many thanks for the =93 TIIIIIICKEEEET ) She might be the one who John Paul sold the spared ticket he had for me. She=92s now famous=85thank to her voice ;o) =20 St=E9phane =20 NB; thanks again Ana for putting this on line =20 =20 http://www.joker-place.net/audio/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3B45D.56651850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Deep joy on hearing = this........!!!!

 

A great recording of a stunning = gig!

 

Cheers to all = concerned.......

 

Pat

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November = 25, 2003 10:26 PM
To: = gathering@misera.net
Subject: [KJ] Ultimate = version of Camden show

 

Hi all,

 

Just enjoy with another sound this unforgettable = gig.

I don’t know the girl who was talking to me = during the intro ( and saying many many thanks for the “ TIIIIIICKEEEET = )

She might be the one who John Paul sold the spared = ticket he had for me.

She’s now famous…thank to her voice = ;o)

 

St=E9phane

 

NB; thanks again Ana for putting this on = line

 

 

http://www.joker-pla= ce.net/audio/index.html

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3B45D.56651850-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 19:22:18 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:22:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031126201947.X14288-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, nicholas fitzpatrick wrote: > And on a very similar point, why is the freemason square and compass on the > Revelations sleeve, exactly? Does Jaz know the funny handshakes? Either my brain is finally dead, or it is also Revelations that has the symbol of the Illuminatus, i.e. the eye in the pyramid. b From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 19:36:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jiri) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:36:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Jaz Interview In-Reply-To: <20031126155708.KCIQ10930.smtp02.fuse.net@smtp.fuse.net> Message-ID: <20031126193637.62191.qmail@web80504.mail.yahoo.com> I was thinking the latter, too, as the intro said something about a "bassist, Youth, who only goes by his last name" and then he quoted Jaz as saying "we have two (bass players), Raven and Geordie." (Of course I guess Jaz could've been lit and/or misspoke, but...) --- madani07@fuse.net wrote: > I'd say the latter, personally speaking. > > To the writer's great credit, he'd never heard of > "Sarah Brighton" either. Lucky man. I never > thought any female voice could be more annoying than > that one out of the Cocteau Twins, but hers is. I > wonder how difficult a karaoke version of Harem > would be to come by? > > > > > From: "Alex Smith" > > Date: 2003/11/26 Wed AM 09:22:52 EST > > To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net > > Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Interview > > > > > > > > Quoth Jaz: "We've got Ted Parsons who is of Swans > and Prawn tradition" > > > > Do you think this is an intentional dig? Or is the > writer just not familiar > > with Prong and not comprehending Jaz's > pronunciation? > > > > Alex in NYC > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 20:38:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:38:01 +1100 Subject: [kj] KJ live in Brisbane - LONG! Message-ID: You lucky, lucky bastard! -S ~Analysis, Paralysis~ Geoffrey ODonoghue @misera.net on 26/11/2003 17:51:51 Please respond to gathering@misera.net Sent by: gathering-admin@misera.net To: gathering@misera.net cc: Subject: [kj] KJ live in Brisbane - LONG! Hi all I=A0have been pretty slack about writing this review considering the show w= as last Friday but I was waiting to hear more about the reported deaths in the KJ touring party before I jumped in with=A0an unimportant (by comparison) concert review. No further information has been forthcoming about this incident (and I haven't been able to find any mention of it=A0on the news sites) so here goes. When I first heard the Joke were coming to town I asked a couple of mates if they would be interested in going=A0but expected a negative response. Th= ey were both fairly keen however and so it was a=A0group of three of us that fronted up around 8:15 at the=A0Arena in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley=A0(the valley is described on Brisbane City Council's website as follows: The Valley is now famous for clubs and restaurants ? along Ann and Brunswick Streets you'll find DJs and live music for the fans, the backpacking brigade and the alternative set. This area boasts all-hours bars, coffee shops and restaurants). It's also a bit grubby and, at times, dangerous - just the place to go to and see Killing Joke. After getting a round of over-priced beers in we stood behind the sound desk where a tall blondish guy with a receding hairline and cargo pants asked=A0us for help=A0in opening the CD player. Blimey, I thought, that guy looks like Geordie - he must be a dead keen fan - imitation being the sincerest form of flattery and all that. Needless to say it was, in fact, the maestro himself=A0and, after succeeding in putting on a CDR of some sort of English rap=A0(excuse my ignorance), he proceeded to the far end of the bar where he=A0consumed=A0beer after beer (no vodka as far as I could see - just the VBs) for the next hour or so. No I didn't go up and talk to him - because a) I'm somewhat shy and=A0retiring and=A0b) I=A0had no idea what to say.=A0Geordie seemed to be in a very happy mood,=A0dispensing hugs to various=A0associates - mostly women. My companions expressed the opinio n that he looked "half cut" and speculated about his ability to play (or even stand) later on in the evening. The opening act, Headkase,=A0was due to start at 9:00 according to the soundman's schedule (KJ's start time was down as 10:30) and they promptly took the stage at that time. I have to say that I quite enjoyed the performance although their unique style of music took me somewhat by surprise - imagine a band that=A0employs the same=A0song structure as Mr Bu= ngle (i.e. chaotic)=A0with=A0death metal cookie monster vocals. They played a strangely entertaining 45-minute set. 10:30 came and went of course. By this time we had relocated ourselves to the second row right in front of Raven's position. I noticed a likable looking lad purposefully making his way around the band's gear making sure that all was in readiness. Hmmm...=A0there can't be too many blokes in Australia with t-shirts advertising Tattoo Parlours in Anchorage, Alaska (I thought to myself). My conclusion was that this was, in fact, the Gathering's own Cliff=A0- nice to put a face to a name. At 10:55=A0the lights dimmed and Faith Healer started up. I=A0hadn't realis= ed that they played the whole song=A0beginning to end -=A0the crowd of 400 odd were getting somewhat agitated as it played through. Then=A0as the keyboard introduction to Communion started,=A0I realised one of my fondest dreams was about to come true - I was going to see KJ live! I had had my reservations about the crowd before the show (I thought they looked uninterested - like they were just there=A0because it was something = to do) but they immediately proved me wrong when they gave the band a big welcome=A0-=A0the volume increasing when Jaz=A0took the stage. I have to ad= mit that the next hour and 40 minutes was a bit of a blur for me. I remember screaming out the lyrics (or approximate versions) for all the songs, dancing like a lunatic and, at times, just standing there with a big shit-eating grin on my face. It was f**king brilliant. The sound was muddy,=A0you could hardly hear Jaz between numbers - none of it=A0mattered. This was=A0Killing Joke and they were magnificent - everything I expected them to be. Jaz seemed to be having a good time and he responded=A0strongly to the feedback from the crowd. Geordie was a revelation - how the f**k can he get those sounds out of a guitar that he seems to be strumming gently while staring=A0blankly into space with a bemused half smile on his face? Mr Raven was also in fine form - he seems to take his interaction with the audience very seriously=A0- especially with the female members! Keyboards were handled very well by the new guy whose name momentarily escapes me. Mr Parsons=A0treated us to a blistering barrage of drums. He didn't=A0put a fo= ot wrong=A0(or should that be a stick) at any time - my favourite=A0moments of= his were during Follow the Leaders - what a thunderous display. That brings me to the set list which was as follows: Communion (not a particular favourite of mine but a great live song) Requiem (great drums by Ted) Total Invasion (a highlight - very well received by the crowd) Wardance (time to mosh) Blood on Your Hands (also a crowd favourite) Change (time to dance) Seeing Red (big crowd response for the chorus) Fall of Because (got a somewhat subdued hearing) The Death and Resurrection Show (and the crowd was at it again) Kings and Queens (some entertaining teasing between Jaz and Geordie) The Wait (we were still trying to dance) Asteroid (Jaz poured scorn on our pathetically hoarse=A0attempts at the chorus) Whiteout (this was f**king brilliant=A0-=A0a longer version would have=A0ki= lled us) Frenzy (another somewhat subdued response) Pssyche (but then we were at it again) (encores) Follow the Leaders (very very good - as mentioned above=A0Ted was=A0blisteringly loud) Pandemonium (another crowd favourite but by this time we were knackered) The set list on the soundboard had Loose Cannon=A0before Follow the Leaders but they must have decided to give it a miss for some reason. That's all folks - sorry to go on so long but this concert was a significant event for me. I only hope it won't be a once in a lifetime thing. Geoff Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now **************************************************************** NOTICE - This message is intended only for the use of the=20 addressee named above and may contain privileged and=20 confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not=20 disseminate, copy or take any action based upon it. If you=20 received this message in error please notify HIC immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of HIC. **************************************************************** From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 21:05:01 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (foolscircle9ways) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:05:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031126201947.X14288-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <20031126210501.73475.qmail@web10009.mail.yahoo.com> --0-855334616-1069880701=:71052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You mean the close-up of the dollar bill? Perhaps one of the American brethren can Illuminate us (burn!burn!) if Colesy's still keeping schtumm? Bo Krogsgaard wrote: Either my brain is finally dead, or it is also Revelations that has the symbol of the Illuminatus, i.e. the eye in the pyramid? If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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You mean the close-up of the dollar bill? Perhaps one of the American brethren can Illuminate us (burn!burn!) if Colesy's still keeping schtumm?

Bo Krogsgaard <t23@mother.brap.dk> wrote:

Either my brain is finally dead, or it is also Revelations that has the
symbol of the Illuminatus, i.e. the eye in the pyramid?



If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room.

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Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-855334616-1069880701=:71052-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 21:10:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dammit Bleep) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:10:03 +0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID:

Unlike, say, Wire, but then again i couldn't care less
about trying to interpret their songs, to me, their vocals are just
another instrument and it works fine that way.

Funny you should mention it. I was listening to A Bell Is a Cup... today. Talk about interpretations. "Follow the Locust" anyone? I have to agree with you for the most part.

Saepe ne utile quidem est scire quid futurum sit.
>From: Bo Krogsgaard
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Language
>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:16:46 +0100 (CET)
>
>
>On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Tom Foolery wrote:
>
> > An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you
> > understand?
>
>Quite important, i'd say. With a good English language and a bit of
>knowledge about the history of different religions and so on, they are
>pretty easy to understand, language wise as well as what he's actually
>trying to say. Unlike, say, Wire, but then again i couldn't care less
>about trying to interpret their songs, to me, their vocals are just
>another instrument and it works fine that way.
>
>
>b
>
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Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos, and more here. From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 21:25:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:25:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Killing Language In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031126222007.N18116-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Dammit Bleep wrote: > Funny you should mention it. I was listening to A Bell Is a Cup... today. Talk about interpretations. "Follow the Locust" > anyone? I have to agree with you for the most part. Most of their lyrics are just word plays on phrases and proverbs and so forth. Only reason i know what Kidney Bingos is about is because Colin told it in an interview back when it came out. Still, never mind, great band, love them. b From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 21:28:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:28:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031126210501.73475.qmail@web10009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031126222533.O18116-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, foolscircle9ways wrote: > You mean the close-up of the dollar bill? Yes, used as symbol by the Illuminatus masonic order since their start in 1776. As for all the conspiracy bollocks, forget that for now, but it's a fact they existed and they used that symbol. Funny year, don't you think? b From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 21:31:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:31:53 EST Subject: [kj] me Mothers Birthday Message-ID: <1e3.144fa796.2cf675c9@aol.com> --part1_1e3.144fa796.2cf675c9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit God bless her she is 74 today, and i got her a DVD player, trouble is the Tv is 15 years old so cant handle scart leads, never mind dad has sorted out a tv replacement for Friday. and they have just caught up with new gadgets and got a microwave just in case, the rest of the kitchen is a godsend for any one looking for a 60S cooker, and no washing machine, and before any comments arrive.... no there is no mangle, just a plain old tumble dryer. Any how she is having a nice peacefull day , not used to partying hard like myself with the rest of you great GATHERERS. Keep the faith Dave --part1_1e3.144fa796.2cf675c9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable God bless her she is 74 today, and i got her a DVD pla= yer, trouble is the Tv is 15 years old so cant handle scart leads, never min= d dad has sorted out a tv replacement for Friday.

and they have just caught up with new gadgets and got a microwave just in ca= se, the rest of the kitchen is a godsend for any one looking for a 60S cooke= r, and no washing machine, and before any comments arrive.... no there is no= mangle, just a plain old tumble dryer.

Any how she is having a nice peacefull day , not used to partying hard like=20= myself with the rest of you great GATHERERS.

Keep the faith

Dave

 --part1_1e3.144fa796.2cf675c9_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 21:49:33 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (foolscircle9ways) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:49:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031126182900.90842.qmail@web20211.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031126214933.81819.qmail@web10009.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2034482833-1069883373=:81028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Snap! KJ were also my intro to the old boy (so we're not taking this offlist, it's 'Class A' ON-TOPIC ;). Around 79/80 there was a Sounds or NME listing by Jaz of his top 10 influences - anyone got access/link to this? Only other one I'm sure of from said list is Herbert von Karajan, conductor of Berlin Philharmonic and Most Evil Man in the World (shome mishtake shurely?). Would be interesting to see the original article again (Antoni? Anybody? Jelbody?) to see who the other eight were (though I think he of the Golden Harp got a mention!!!). And Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" were tapping into the Aeon well beyond BTATS: even beyond Outside the Gate, yea, beyond Outside the Gate! Djehuti111 wrote: --- foolscircle9ways wrote: > Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley? KJ were my introduction to Crowley, and without going too deep into the topic onlist (cos I can hear " Ach! here he goes again!" on the lips of many a Gatherer who's been here for awhile. I guess I'm a bit "notorious" when the topic of Uncle Al comes up.) there are a glut of lyrics, song titles, interviews etc. that show Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" up until around the BTATS era. Jaz seems to have broadened his spiritual horizons at that point, although lines from The Book of the Law (which is where the Fall of Because line originates.) are scattered throughout the next few albums and have even surfaced in the film that he did recently ("Drink wines that foam. Take strange drugs they shall not harm ye at all...is a lie") The Year of the Devil I believe it was called? I was looking forward to talking to Jaz about all things Metaphysic at the recent SF show, but Jello Biafra wedged himself between us! Oh well, age before beauty as they say. ;) Feel free to contact me offlist if you'd like more info. Aleph ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-2034482833-1069883373=:81028 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Snap!
KJ were also my intro to the old boy (so we're not taking this offlist, it's 'Class A' ON-TOPIC ;). Around 79/80 there was a Sounds or NME listing by Jaz of his top 10 influences - anyone got access/link to this? Only other one I'm sure of from said list is Herbert von Karajan, conductor of Berlin Philharmonic and Most Evil Man in the World (shome mishtake shurely?). Would be interesting to see the original article again (Antoni? Anybody? Jelbody?) to see who the other eight were (though I think he of the Golden Harp got a mention!!!).
 
And Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" were tapping into the Aeon well beyond BTATS: even beyond Outside the Gate, yea, beyond Outside the Gate!

Djehuti111 <djehuti111@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- foolscircle9ways
wrote:
> Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley?

KJ were my introduction to Crowley, and without going
too deep into the topic onlist (cos I can hear " Ach!
here he goes again!" on the lips of many a Gatherer
who's been here for awhile. I guess I'm a bit
"notorious" when the topic of Uncle Al comes up.)
there are a glut of lyrics, song titles, interviews
etc. that show Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" up until
around the BTATS era.

Jaz seems to have broadened his spiritual horizons at
that point, although lines from The Book of the Law
(which is where the Fall of Because line originates.)
are scattered throughout the next few albums and have
even surfaced in the film that he did recently ("Drink
wines that foam. Take strange drugs they shall not
harm ye at all...is a lie") The Year of the Devil I
believe it was called?

I was looking forward to talking to Jaz about all
things Metaphysic at the recent SF show, but Jello
Biafra wedged himself between us!
Oh well, age before beauty as they say. ;)

Feel free to contact me offlist if you'd like more
info.

Aleph




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darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the
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studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a
stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of
the ceremony."

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Bo Krogsgaard <t23@mother.brap.dk> wrote:
Funny year, don't you think?

Aren't they all? Well, I'm still laughing, even if it does hurt :-)


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I saw 'em in Chicago last June. Walked into the Abbey Pub and there the four were: eating fish 'n' chips. Figures I guess. Still, their stage presence left something to be desired: played EXACTLY one hour...INCLUDING the encore. Sheesh. Whatever you do, fellas, don't push that time frame out any.

All the more still, glad I saw 'em.

 

-jim




Saepe ne utile quidem est scire quid futurum sit.
>From: Bo Krogsgaard
>Reply-To: gathering@misera.net
>To: gathering@misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Language
>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:25:12 +0100 (CET)
>
>
>On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Dammit Bleep wrote:
>
> > Funny you should mention it. I was listening to A Bell Is a Cup... today. Talk about interpretations. "Follow the Locust"
> > anyone? I have to agree with you for the most part.
>
>Most of their lyrics are just word plays on phrases and proverbs and so
>forth. Only reason i know what Kidney Bingos is about is because Colin
>told it in an interview back when it came out.
>
>Still, never mind, great band, love them.
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Wanted: volunteers to test "Orgasmatron" 2 hours, 51 minutes ago http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1516&e=1&u=/afp/20031126/od_afp/health_sex_031126195052 "PARIS (AFP) - US doctors are casting around for female volunteers to test an "Orgasmatron," an implanted device that will trigger instant..." and here's my conspiracy view of things for this coming holiday weekend... 1--The Saudi bin Laden Group's domain name (before being renewed lately) was initiated on 09-11-2k to expire 09-11-2k1, 2--The Taliban/Al-Qaeda blew up, to the whole world's dismay, "twin tower"-ing[REALLY tall] statues of Buddha carved into a mountain wall, only months before the real deal 3--and right before Thanksgiving, supposed AlQaeda crews bomb 4 targets in pairs in of all places...Turkey Happy Turkey Day "Gobble Gobble," --- Bridget, 8 Simple Rules ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 23:24:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:24:12 -0900 Subject: [kj] Cliff References: <200311261436.hAQEaCgt006877@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <008f01c3b474$6755fb40$ea9e70d1@antifrz> Hello Alex, Thanks for showing the ladies a good time in nyc,wished i was more available to visit.Nice pic's,thanks again...Cheers,Cliff p.s. did you get paid for the tickets? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Smith" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [kj] Cliff > > Once again, Cliff, in case you've missed'em in the deluge of e-mails, here > are some pics from the NYC gig. > > http://members.aol.com/motelhell/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/index.htm > > Welcome Home! > > Alex in NYC > > > > > ---------- > >From: "Cliff and Kara Livingston" > >To: > >Subject: Re: [kj] Cliff > >Date: Wed, Nov 26, 2003, 2:36 AM > > > > >Hello Gathering , > >I'm Back in Alaska,thanks for the drinks in Nyc Colsey. > >What a wild ride it was folks.Great experience and all.Great bunch ... was a > >pleasure to work for them,and get to all the US and Australia shows.My > >condolences to the people who missed any of the shows.Really wished i had > >more time to meet a few of the gathering that were at some shows,had to > >maintain focus and work was nonstop.Cheers to you all,i'm relaxing and will > >be back online,and chatting on K-J.com hope to see ya in a few hours and > >some much need attention from the Mrs and some rest,haha. > >Sincerly,Cliff > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "mike coles" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:24 AM > >Subject: [kj] Cliff > > > > > >> Kara, did the big man go to Oz? > >> cheers, > >> colesy > >> -- > >> Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > >> ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gathering mailing list > >> Gathering@misera.net > >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Wed Nov 26 23:38:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Geoffrey ODonoghue) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:38:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Media review of the KJ Brisbane gig In-Reply-To: <008701c3b46d$1df471e0$ea9e70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: <20031126233822.82290.qmail@web80706.mail.yahoo.com> --0-458567252-1069889902=:80907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mistakes aside (they did NOT play Empire Song), this is a very positive review. http://www.timeoff.com.au/archive/1150/reviews/live2.html KILLING JOKE, HEADKASE | ARENA | 20.11.03 Some may think local metal act Headkase are an unlikely choice to support industrial act Killing Joke tonight, but those doubts are put to rest early as the six-piece slam out a fiery and energised set. Their unique fusion of metal and soft-core techno beats gets a nod from even the most cynical industrial enthusiast. They open crowd favourite ‘Murdered And Dumped In The Willow’, usually their closing track. That’s followed by ‘Where The Blood May Lead’ and an older song ‘Alluette And The Lava Lamp’ which is more techno-inspired and features a solo by face-painted drummer Todd. They have a small crowd of loyalists head-banging up the front, and seem suitably stoked to be playing such a large venue, with a well-respected band. Stage theatrics and guttural growls are provided by vocalist Nutty who provides a lot of the band’s stage presence. Then comes the awful rap music between the two bands – it’s highly inappropriate and definitely lessens the vibe of the evening. But this is instantly forgotten when industrial metal pioneers Killing Joke take to the stage and the smaller (and older) than usual crowd let out an almighty roar. Frontman, Jaz Coleman is decked out in a black, hooded poncho sporting a white spider on the front and his face is smeared with warpaint, as is the bass player’s. The five-piece show their professionalism and 25-year experience, playing an impressive two-hour set featuring songs from their entire back catalogue without even breaking sweat. The band visibly enjoys the set, which is understandably full of recent tracks from their self-titled album from this year such as ‘Asteroids’ and ‘Blood On Your Hands’. That said, plenty of old gems still get an airing including ‘Wardance’, ‘Follow the Leaders’ and ‘Empire Song’, all of which remain as relevant today as they were when they were written. Their high-energy drum beats, catchy synthesiser patterns and doom and gloom guitaring, all set to anarchic protest lyrics, sets a strange atmosphere and the political banter between songs adds to this. All in all, we’re treated to a raw and dynamic show from one of the best industrial acts you’re ever likely to see. MAREE BEDFORD Cliff and Kara Livingston wrote: http://www.killing-joke.com Hello, I'm back tired shagged and happy,see ya in chat,Monk-A --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-458567252-1069889902=:80907 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Mistakes aside (they did NOT play Empire Song), this is a very positive review.  
 
 
KILLING JOKE, HEADKASE | ARENA | 20.11.03

Some may think local metal act Headkase are an unlikely choice to support industrial act Killing Joke tonight, but those doubts are put to rest early as the six-piece slam out a fiery and energised set. Their unique fusion of metal and soft-core techno beats gets a nod from even the most cynical industrial enthusiast.

They open crowd favourite ‘Murdered And Dumped In The Willow’, usually their closing track. That’s followed by ‘Where The Blood May Lead’ and an older song ‘Alluette And The Lava Lamp’ which is more techno-inspired and features a solo by face-painted drummer Todd. They have a small crowd of loyalists head-banging up the front, and seem suitably stoked to be playing such a large venue, with a well-respected band. Stage theatrics and guttural growls are provided by vocalist Nutty who provides a lot of the band’s stage presence.

Then comes the awful rap music between the two bands – it’s highly inappropriate and definitely lessens the vibe of the evening. But this is instantly forgotten when industrial metal pioneers Killing Joke take to the stage and the smaller (and older) than usual crowd let out an almighty roar.

Frontman, Jaz Coleman is decked out in a black, hooded poncho sporting a white spider on the front and his face is smeared with warpaint, as is the bass player’s. The five-piece show their professionalism and 25-year experience, playing an impressive two-hour set featuring songs from their entire back catalogue without even breaking sweat. The band visibly enjoys the set, which is understandably full of recent tracks from their self-titled album from this year such as ‘Asteroids’ and ‘Blood On Your Hands’. That said, plenty of old gems still get an airing including ‘Wardance’, ‘Follow the Leaders’ and ‘Empire Song’, all of which remain as relevant today as they were when they were written.

Their high-energy drum beats, catchy synthesiser patterns and doom and gloom guitaring, all set to anarchic protest lyrics, sets a strange atmosphere and the political banter between songs adds to this.

All in all, we’re treated to a raw and dynamic show from one of the best industrial acts you’re ever likely to see.

MAREE BEDFORD



Cliff and Kara Livingston <antifrz@alaska.net> wrote:
 
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Couldn't agree more JP, what the fuck are we singing-along-a-Jaz to?
I am, of course, lovingly laughing, despite the stitches (ouch!)
But come on, a basic reading list of Crowleyan apocrypha wouldn't do you no wrong..."Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt. Love is the law, love under will."
 
Let's GO!
 
I have to say that considering what an influence The Beast was on Killing
Joke I have always been mystified about how little he is discussed round
these parts.

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From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 01:56:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:56:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031127021555.F26187-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, J.Paul Owens wrote: > I have to say that considering what an influence The Beast was on Killing > Joke I have always been mystified about how little he is discussed round > these parts. Again, i might be mistaken, but i SEEM to recall him use a couple of phrases from Liber OZ on some bootleg i have somewhere. Don't ask me which, though. b From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 02:01:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Javier Garcia) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:01:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Message-ID: Being away for a while, that's why I'm just replying to Alex's great news!!, congratulations Alex and the future mom!!!!! One of the things that took me away for a while was the arrival of my little baby girl Jimena, who was born a week ago (november 19th). It;s a wonderful feeling... she's gorgeus!! (what else can I say!?!?!??). Cheeeers Javier mexico city > > >> >> Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at >> the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some >> truly great news today that has significantly lifted >> the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the >> results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today >> (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning >> that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and >> perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 08:20:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:20:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031126214933.81819.qmail@web10009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031127082015.15905.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> --- foolscircle9ways wrote: > Snap! > KJ were also my intro to the old boy (so we're not > taking this offlist, it's 'Class A' ON-TOPIC ;). LOL! > Around 79/80 there was a Sounds or NME listing by > Jaz of his top 10 influences - anyone got > access/link to this? Only other one I'm sure of from > said list is Herbert von Karajan, conductor of > Berlin Philharmonic and Most Evil Man in the World > (shome mishtake shurely?). Would be interesting to > see the original article again (Antoni? Anybody? > Jelbody?) to see who the other eight were (though I > think he of the Golden Harp got a mention!!!). > > And Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" were tapping into the > Aeon well beyond BTATS: even beyond Outside the > Gate, yea, beyond Outside the Gate! I was just mentioning that beyond BTATS, the pro Crowley "leanings" became much less apparent. A L P > > Djehuti111 wrote: > --- foolscircle9ways > wrote: > > Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley? > > KJ were my introduction to Crowley, and without > going > too deep into the topic onlist (cos I can hear " > Ach! > here he goes again!" on the lips of many a Gatherer > who's been here for awhile. I guess I'm a bit > "notorious" when the topic of Uncle Al comes up.) > there are a glut of lyrics, song titles, interviews > etc. that show Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" up until > around the BTATS era. > > Jaz seems to have broadened his spiritual horizons > at > that point, although lines from The Book of the Law > (which is where the Fall of Because line > originates.) > are scattered throughout the next few albums and > have > even surfaced in the film that he did recently > ("Drink > wines that foam. Take strange drugs they shall not > harm ye at all...is a lie") The Year of the Devil I > believe it was called? > > I was looking forward to talking to Jaz about all > things Metaphysic at the recent SF show, but Jello > Biafra wedged himself between us! > Oh well, age before beauty as they say. ;) > > Feel free to contact me offlist if you'd like more > info. > > Aleph > > > > > ===== > "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The > darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the > silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, > studded with secretive and significant stars, formed > a > stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of > the ceremony." > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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You mean the close-up of the dollar bill?
Perhaps one of the American brethren can Illuminate us (burn!burn!) if Colesy's still keeping schtumm?
Bo Krogsgaard <t23@mother.brap.dk> wrote:
Either my brain is finally dead, or it is also Revelations that has the symbol of the Illuminatus,
i.e. the eye in the pyramid?

It's also on the sleeve of the doors concerto...
colesy
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--============_-1142200416==_ma============-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 09:01:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Saxton) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:01:12 -0000 Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" References: <20031126214933.81819.qmail@web10009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009b01c3b4c5$03224380$fc862ad9@musicpc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C3B4C5.01C5E7D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think Colonel Gadaffi was another. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: foolscircle9ways=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [kj] "a very dubious character" Snap! KJ were also my intro to the old boy (so we're not taking this = offlist, it's 'Class A' ON-TOPIC ;). Around 79/80 there was a Sounds or = NME listing by Jaz of his top 10 influences - anyone got access/link to = this? Only other one I'm sure of from said list is Herbert von Karajan, = conductor of Berlin Philharmonic and Most Evil Man in the World (shome = mishtake shurely?). Would be interesting to see the original article = again (Antoni? Anybody? Jelbody?) to see who the other eight were = (though I think he of the Golden Harp got a mention!!!). And Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" were tapping into the Aeon well beyond = BTATS: even beyond Outside the Gate, yea, beyond Outside the Gate! Djehuti111 wrote: --- foolscircle9ways=20 wrote:=20 > Any other KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley? KJ were my introduction to Crowley, and without going too deep into the topic onlist (cos I can hear " Ach! here he goes again!" on the lips of many a Gatherer who's been here for awhile. I guess I'm a bit "notorious" when the topic of Uncle Al comes up.) there are a glut of lyrics, song titles, interviews etc. that show Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" up until around the BTATS era. Jaz seems to have broadened his spiritual horizons at that point, although lines from The Book of the Law (which is where the Fall of Because line originates.) are scattered throughout the next few albums and have=20 even surfaced in the film that he did recently ("Drink wines that foam. Take strange drugs they shall not harm ye at all.. .is a lie") The Year of the Devil I believe it was called? I was looking forward to talking to Jaz about all things Metaphysic at the recent SF show, but Jello Biafra wedged himself between us! Oh well, age before beauty as they say. ;) Feel free to contact me offlist if you'd like more info. Aleph =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering If you' re not living on the edge you're taking up too much room. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C3B4C5.01C5E7D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think Colonel Gadaffi was = another.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 foolscircle9ways
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, = 2003 9:49=20 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] "a very = dubious=20 character"

Snap!
KJ were also my intro to the old boy (so we're not taking this = offlist,=20 it's 'Class A' ON-TOPIC ;). Around 79/80 there was a Sounds or NME = listing by=20 Jaz of his top 10 influences - anyone got access/link to this? = Only other=20 one I'm sure of from said list is Herbert von Karajan, conductor of = Berlin=20 Philharmonic and Most Evil Man in the World (shome mishtake shurely?). = Would=20 be interesting to see the original article again (Antoni? Anybody? = Jelbody?)=20 to see who the other eight were (though I think he of the Golden Harp = got a=20 mention!!!).
 
And Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" were tapping into the Aeon=20 well beyond BTATS: even beyond Outside the Gate, = yea, beyond=20 Outside the Gate!

Djehuti111 <djehuti111@yahoo.com> = wrote:
---=20 foolscircle9ways
wrote:
> Any = other=20 KJ lyrics originally penned by Crowley?

KJ were my = introduction to=20 Crowley, and without going
too deep into the topic onlist (cos I = can hear=20 " Ach!
here he goes again!" on the lips of many a = Gatherer
who's been=20 here for awhile. I guess I'm a bit
"notorious" when the topic of = Uncle Al=20 comes up.)
there are a glut of lyrics, song titles, = interviews
etc.=20 that show Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" up until
around the BTATS=20 era.

Jaz seems to have broadened his spiritual horizons = at
that=20 point, although lines from The Book of the Law
(which is where = the Fall=20 of Because line originates.)
are scattered throughout the next = few albums=20 and have
even surfaced in the film that he did recently = ("Drink
wines=20 that foam. Take strange drugs they shall not
harm ye at all.. .is = a lie")=20 The Year of the Devil I
believe it was called?

I was = looking=20 forward to talking to Jaz about all
things Metaphysic at the = recent SF=20 show, but Jello
Biafra wedged himself between us!
Oh well, age = before=20 beauty as they say. ;)

Feel free to contact me offlist if = you'd like=20 = more
info.

Aleph




=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
"The = scene was wild=20 and somewhat sinister. The
darkness, the palms, the mountainous=20 background, the
silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of=20 space,
studded with secretive and significant stars, formed=20 a
stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of
the=20 ceremony."

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= Free=20 Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C3B4C5.01C5E7D0-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 10:17:14 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gabriella_Wing=E5rdh?=) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:17:14 +0100 Subject: [kj] Killing Language References: Message-ID: <001501c3b4cf$a1889a60$030c43d5@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3B4D8.02CB2830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, if you translate say Beatles songs*, or any other say English text = literally, you do get some hilarious results :-D (* Don=B4t know if you speak any Swedish, but let=B4s say "Twist and = Shout" literally, would be something like "Skruva och skrik", which in = English, translated back, could result in something like "Screw and = Scream") Well, well ;-) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Foolery=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: [kj] Killing Language An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how = important are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand?=20 The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I = translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into = finnish, and realised how far the literal translation was from the = meaning of the song. "Fall Of Because" was a particular pain in the arse = 'cos it doesn't make sense LITERALLY in any language, so I settled for = "J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen" (The Overthrow of Reasoning). luv from Stimro "Mummy, what's a Killing Joke?" "A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex" -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* = _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list = Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3B4D8.02CB2830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, if you translate say = Beatles songs*, or=20 any other say English text literally, you do get some hilarious results=20 :-D
(* Don=B4t know if you speak any = Swedish, but let=B4s=20 say "Twist and Shout" literally, would be something like "Skruva och = skrik",=20 which in English, translated back, could result in something like = "Screw=20 and Scream")
Well, well ;-)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom = Foolery=20
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, = 2003 3:21=20 PM
Subject: [kj] Killing = Language

An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how = important=20 are Jaz's lyrics to you and how much do you understand?

The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I = translated=20 the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into finnish, and = realised=20 how far the literal translation was from the meaning of the song. = "Fall Of=20 Because" was a particular pain in the arse 'cos it doesn't make sense=20 LITERALLY in any language, so I settled for "J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen" = (The=20 Overthrow of Reasoning).


luv=20 from

Stimro

"Mummy, what's a = Killing=20 Joke?"

"A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"


STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN=20 8 and get 2 months FREE* = _______________________________________________=20 Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net=20 = http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3B4D8.02CB2830-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 13:30:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:30:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Killing Language In-Reply-To: <001501c3b4cf$a1889a60$030c43d5@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20031127141807.C50172-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Gabriella Wing=E5rdh wrote: > (* Don=B4t know if you speak any Swedish, but let=B4s say "Twist and Shou= t" literally, would be something like "Skruva och skrik", which in English,= translated back, could result in something like "Screw and Scream") My former roommate and i have this common friend who is French but has lived in Denmark for .. fifteen years maybe. One night we took sentences like "my hovercraft is full of eels" and went to babelfish.altavista.com and translated each of them to French and back like five times, then sent them to said French guy on ICQ. He really TRIED to understand what we were saying, until he figured out that my former roommate and i in the same room would mean we were stinking drunk and taking the piss out of him. Took him a while to figure out though. DAMNED i wish i had the logs of that night. On a WHOLE different note, a few of you maybe used BBS systems back in the old days with dialup modems. There was this quite good BBS software package called RemoteAccess, which was also one of the first BBS systems that shipped with menus in multiple languages. Whatever idiot translated it to Danish should be shot. He had consequently translated the word "thread" with the word for "threat", so it had the most violent message board system in BBS history ("previous message in threat, next threat, search for messages in threat, start new threat" and so on). And the Danish words ("tr=E5d" and "trussel") are so far from eachother that this cannot be a simple mistake, it's a proper fuckup. b From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 13:48:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:48:32 -0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF173@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >One night we took sentences >like "my hovercraft is full of eels" and went to = babelfish.altavista.com >and translated each of them to French and back like five times, then = sent >them to said French guy on ICQ. Someone's taken the trouble out of this now and created Multibabel: http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/ Throw in some KJ lyrics and see what happens ! :o) (doesn't seem to be working too well at the moment though, probably = this DNS thing) Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bo Krogsgaard [SMTP:t23@mother.brap.dk] > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 1:31 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Language >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Gabriella Wing=E5rdh wrote: >=20 > > (* Don=B4t know if you speak any Swedish, but let=B4s say "Twist = and Shout" > literally, would be something like "Skruva och skrik", which in = English, > translated back, could result in something like "Screw and Scream") >=20 > My former roommate and i have this common friend who is French but = has > lived in Denmark for .. fifteen years maybe. One night we took = sentences > like "my hovercraft is full of eels" and went to = babelfish.altavista.com > and translated each of them to French and back like five times, then = sent > them to said French guy on ICQ. >=20 > He really TRIED to understand what we were saying, until he figured = out > that my former roommate and i in the same room would mean we were = stinking > drunk and taking the piss out of him. Took him a while to figure out > though. DAMNED i wish i had the logs of that night. >=20 > On a WHOLE different note, a few of you maybe used BBS systems back = in the > old days with dialup modems. There was this quite good BBS software > package called RemoteAccess, which was also one of the first BBS = systems > that shipped with menus in multiple languages. >=20 > Whatever idiot translated it to Danish should be shot. He had = consequently > translated the word "thread" with the word for "threat", so it had = the > most violent message board system in BBS history ("previous message = in > threat, next threat, search for messages in threat, start new threat" = and > so on). And the Danish words ("tr=E5d" and "trussel") are so far from > eachother that this cannot be a simple mistake, it's a proper fuckup. >=20 >=20 > b >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >=20 >=20 This communication may contain information that is confidential and = legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). = If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information = within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet = Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 15:33:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bob Barathy) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:33:03 -0000 Subject: [kj] flammable liquids only Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3B4FB.BF6BCD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They don't have these on the official web site do they? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2967933285&category=146 8 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3B4FB.BF6BCD50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
They = don't have=20 these on the official web site do they?
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem= &item=3D2967933285&category=3D1468
= ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C3B4FB.BF6BCD50-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 18:10:12 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Rob's Arse) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:10:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Message-ID: <20031127181012.DD7883978@sitemail.everyone.net> Great news Javier! Congratulations! --- "Javier Garcia" wrote: Being away for a while, that's why I'm just replying to Alex's great news!!, congratulations Alex and the future mom!!!!! One of the things that took me away for a while was the arrival of my little baby girl Jimena, who was born a week ago (november 19th). It;s a wonderful feeling... she's gorgeus!! (what else can I say!?!?!??). Cheeeers Javier mexico city > > >> >> Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at >> the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some >> truly great news today that has significantly lifted >> the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the >> results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today >> (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning >> that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and >> perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _____________________________________________________________ Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of worldmap.com) From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 18:42:52 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:42:52 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Message-ID: <6C27CA8C.5BC26F86.0004DF86@aol.com> Excellent news, Javier. All the best to you & your family. Jamie > One of the things that took me away for a while was the arrival of my little baby girl Jimena, who was born a week ago (november 19th). It;s a wonderful feeling... she's gorgeus!! (what else can I say!?!?!??). > > Cheeeers > > Javier > mexico city From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 19:27:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (JOKERS PUB CAFE) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:27:47 -0200 Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! References: Message-ID: <013c01c3b51c$8b149700$6dc8ddc8@o7l3j2> Saludos Javier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! congratulations, nice to hear the news!!!!!!!!!! november 18 is my Mother's birthday (she did 70 years old last week) and mine is this saturday, 29 th november, I'm just about to get to my 34. all the best amigo diaz ----- Original Message ----- From: Javier Garcia To: Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! > Being away for a while, that's why I'm just replying to Alex's great news!!, congratulations Alex and the future mom!!!!! > > One of the things that took me away for a while was the arrival of my little baby girl Jimena, who was born a week ago (november 19th). It;s a wonderful feeling... she's gorgeus!! (what else can I say!?!?!??). > > Cheeeers > > Javier > mexico city > > > > > > >> > >> Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at > >> the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some > >> truly great news today that has significantly lifted > >> the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the > >> results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today > >> (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning > >> that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and > >> perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gathering mailing list > >> Gathering@misera.net > >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gathering mailing list > >Gathering@misera.net > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! > http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 20:40:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:40:46 EST Subject: [kj] me Mothers Birthday Message-ID: <11a.2ba281dc.2cf7bb4e@aol.com> --part1_11a.2ba281dc.2cf7bb4e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 26/11/03 13:36:02 Pacific Standard Time, Wrightdvdw@aol.com writes: > Any how she is having a nice peaceful day Gawd bless her! 100% --part1_11a.2ba281dc.2cf7bb4e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 26/11/03 13:36:02 Pacific Standard=20= Time, Wrightdvdw@aol.com writes:

Any how she is having a nice pe= aceful day


   Gawd bless her! 100% --part1_11a.2ba281dc.2cf7bb4e_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 20:42:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fat potanga) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:42:35 +0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Message-ID: Ha - you kept that one quiet!! Many congratulations! Tis a wonderful feeling is it not? Jamie ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Javier Garcia" Reply-To: gathering@misera.net To: gathering@misera.net Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:01:41 -0500 Being away for a while, that's why I'm just replying to Alex's great news!!, congratulations Alex and the future mom!!!!! One of the things that took me away for a while was the arrival of my little baby girl Jimena, who was born a week ago (november 19th). It;s a wonderful feeling... she's gorgeus!! (what else can I say!?!?!??). Cheeeers Javier mexico city > > >> >> Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at >> the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some >> truly great news today that has significantly lifted >> the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the >> results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today >> (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning >> that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and >> perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 _______________________________________________ Gathering mailing list Gathering@misera.net http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 20:46:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:46:31 EST Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Message-ID: <1d4.156d680e.2cf7bca7@aol.com> --part1_1d4.156d680e.2cf7bca7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 27/11/03 12:45:19 Pacific Standard Time, fatpotanga@hotmail.com writes: > Tis a wonderful feeling is it not? > > Its the best....well done Sir. Jel --part1_1d4.156d680e.2cf7bca7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 27/11/03 12:45:19 Pacific Standard=20= Time, fatpotanga@hotmail.com writes:

Tis a wonderful feeling is it n= ot?



   Its the best....well done Sir.

   Jel --part1_1d4.156d680e.2cf7bca7_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 21:15:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:15:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] OT: Happy Thankgiving In-Reply-To: <11a.2ba281dc.2cf7bb4e@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031127211511.14378.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings Family, I'd just like to wish everybody a Happy Thanksgiving. I hope that we can all be introspective for a moment today to recognize everything in our lives that we have to be truly thankful for. ~Aleph ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 21:17:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:17:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031127211722.53161.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> --- "J.Paul Owens" wrote: > I have to say that considering what an influence The > Beast was on Killing > Joke I have always been mystified about how little > he is discussed round > these parts. I'm just not up to causing much of a ruckus these days. ;) A L P > > john-paul _________________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 21:20:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Pagan) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:20:16 -0000 Subject: [kj] TOTALLY OT: Alice 2004 for the SoM fans on the list Message-ID: <005901c3b52c$4af5b130$9c647ad5@goths> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C3B52C.40CFE220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Remixes by Dirty Funker. http://www.spiritproductions.net/frame.html ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C3B52C.40CFE220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Remixes by Dirty Funker.
 
http://www.spiritpro= ductions.net/frame.html
------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C3B52C.40CFE220-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 21:40:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:40:40 EST Subject: [kj] OT: Happy Thankgiving Message-ID: <132.27f2fdd1.2cf7c958@aol.com> --part1_132.27f2fdd1.2cf7c958_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 27/11/03 13:17:16 Pacific Standard Time, djehuti111@yahoo.com writes: > a Happy Thanksgiving. > > A what? but cheers anyway old chap and the same to you. --part1_132.27f2fdd1.2cf7c958_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 27/11/03 13:17:16 Pacific Standard=20= Time, djehuti111@yahoo.com writes:

a Happy Thanksgiving.





A what? but cheers anyway old chap and the same to you. --part1_132.27f2fdd1.2cf7c958_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 21:41:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:41:45 EST Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" Message-ID: <135.287432d0.2cf7c999@aol.com> --part1_135.287432d0.2cf7c999_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 27/11/03 13:19:31 Pacific Standard Time, djehuti111@yahoo.com writes: > I'm just not up to causing much of a ruckus these > days. ;) > > Right bloody shame that Aleph. I loved it when you used to get started. Jel --part1_135.287432d0.2cf7c999_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 27/11/03 13:19:31 Pacific Standard=20= Time, djehuti111@yahoo.com writes:

I'm just not up to causing much= of a ruckus these
days. ;)



  Right bloody shame that Aleph.
 
    I loved it when you used to get started.

      Jel --part1_135.287432d0.2cf7c999_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 21:49:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Greyson Stoehr) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:49:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031127083855.66284DB89@four.pairlist.net> Message-ID: <20031127214907.25254.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Jaz and I had a full-out discussion of this subject back when he was promoting "Extremeties..." At the point when he had recovered from the nervous breakdown he--and supposedly also Geordie--had suffered after doing the Courtauld Talks and Outside the Gate, Jaz decided it was time to go 'back to his roots' and become a Muslim. He'd more or less renounced Thelema by that point, and when I argued that I saw what he'd done as a regressive move, he couldn't believe it. That said, he's never given up the THEORY, but I don't believe he's as much in the PRACTICE as he was back in the Eighties. There actually is a section for Thelemic discussion on Jester's www.killing-joke.com, but almost no one uses it. Grey > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:20:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Djehuti111 > Subject: > To: gathering@misera.net > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > --- foolscircle9ways > wrote: > > Snap! > > KJ were also my intro to the old boy (so we're not > > taking this offlist, it's 'Class A' ON-TOPIC ;). > > LOL! > > > Around 79/80 there was a Sounds or NME listing by > > Jaz of his top 10 influences - anyone got > > access/link to this? Only other one I'm sure of > from > > said list is Herbert von Karajan, conductor of > > Berlin Philharmonic and Most Evil Man in the World > > (shome mishtake shurely?). Would be interesting to > > see the original article again (Antoni? Anybody? > > Jelbody?) to see who the other eight were (though > I > > think he of the Golden Harp got a mention!!!). > > > > And Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" were tapping into > the > > Aeon well beyond BTATS: even beyond Outside the > > Gate, yea, beyond Outside the Gate! > > I was just mentioning that beyond BTATS, the pro > Crowley "leanings" became much less apparent. > > A L P __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 22:00:11 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:00:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Happy Thankgiving In-Reply-To: <132.27f2fdd1.2cf7c958@aol.com> from "Jelbod@aol.com" at Nov 27, 2003 04:40:40 PM Message-ID: <200311272200.hARM0B1n011696@basil.jkm.net> > > a Happy Thanksgiving. > > A what? but cheers anyway old chap and the same to you. Oh, go have some turkey curry ;-) From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 22:10:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Brian Whitehead) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:10:21 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! References: <013c01c3b51c$8b149700$6dc8ddc8@o7l3j2> Message-ID: <007401c3b533$40d2eb30$dd2d8751@EmmaJane> Congratulations Javier, My little girl is now 3 months old and its hard work but worth it. Brian. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Javier Garcia > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:01 AM > Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! > > > > Being away for a while, that's why I'm just replying to Alex's great > news!!, congratulations Alex and the future mom!!!!! > > > > One of the things that took me away for a while was the arrival of my > little baby girl Jimena, who was born a week ago (november 19th). It;s a > wonderful feeling... she's gorgeus!! (what else can I say!?!?!??). > > > > Cheeeers > > > > Javier > > mexico city > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at > > >> the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some > > >> truly great news today that has significantly lifted > > >> the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the > > >> results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today > > >> (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning > > >> that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and > > >> perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Gathering mailing list > > >> Gathering@misera.net > > >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Gathering mailing list > > >Gathering@misera.net > > >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! > > http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 23:02:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:02:45 EST Subject: [kj] cover versions Message-ID: <34.427d05d4.2cf7dc95@aol.com> --part1_34.427d05d4.2cf7dc95_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 27/11/03 14:51:19 Pacific Standard Time, woody2shooz@yahoo.co.uk writes: > mrs graham hears A-Ha(!) everytime in Love Like Blood and suggests a > version with Morton whtashisface, any chance anybody? > No absolutely not --part1_34.427d05d4.2cf7dc95_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 27/11/03 14:51:19 Pacific Standard=20= Time, woody2shooz@yahoo.co.uk writes:

mrs graham hears A-Ha(!) everytime in Love Like Blood and s= uggests a version with Morton whtashisface, any chance anybody?


   No absolutely not --part1_34.427d05d4.2cf7dc95_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 23:03:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:03:50 EST Subject: [kj] OT: Happy Thankgiving Message-ID: <6d.1d949597.2cf7dcd6@aol.com> --part1_6d.1d949597.2cf7dcd6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 27/11/03 14:03:19 Pacific Standard Time, amyr@jump.net writes: > Oh, go have some turkey curry With all due respect.....BOLLOX --part1_6d.1d949597.2cf7dcd6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 27/11/03 14:03:19 Pacific Standard=20= Time, amyr@jump.net writes:

Oh, go have some turkey curry <= /BLOCKQUOTE>

  With all due respect.....BOLLOX --part1_6d.1d949597.2cf7dcd6_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 23:05:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:05:24 EST Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Message-ID: <1c4.124f42b2.2cf7dd34@aol.com> --part1_1c4.124f42b2.2cf7dd34_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 27/11/03 14:13:24 Pacific Standard Time, wittz@btinternet.com writes: > My little girl is now 3 months old and its hard work but worth it. > > 3 months.......oh......such bliss.....then they grow up....teeeethe.....develope personalities....want things....argue.....fucking annoy the shit out of ya....but you still love em. Jelly happy --part1_1c4.124f42b2.2cf7dd34_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 27/11/03 14:13:24 Pacific Standard=20= Time, wittz@btinternet.com writes:

My little girl is now 3 months=20= old and its hard work but worth it.



     3 months.......oh......such bliss.....then they gro= w up....teeeethe.....develope personalities....want things....argue.....fuck= ing annoy the shit out of ya....but you still love em.


   Jelly happy --part1_1c4.124f42b2.2cf7dd34_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 23:27:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:27:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031127214907.25254.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031127232704.54147.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> 93 Greyson, --- Greyson Stoehr wrote: > Jaz and I had a full-out discussion of this subject > back when he was promoting "Extremeties..." > > At the point when he had recovered from the nervous > breakdown he--and supposedly also Geordie--had > suffered after doing the Courtauld Talks and Outside > the Gate, Jaz decided it was time to go 'back to his > roots' and become a Muslim. He'd more or less > renounced Thelema by that point, and when I argued > that I saw what he'd done as a regressive move, he > couldn't believe it. Personally, I'd have a hard time hearing that from someone too. I feel that I'm the only person qualified to make judgement calls about something as personal as my own spiritual beliefs. In my mind, what that boils down to is someone telling me that they know better than I about how to live my life or which pantheon of God/dess' speak to me. Liber AL has the following to say on such matters: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." "...So with thy all; thou has no right but to do thy will." "Do that, and no other shall say nay" That aside, remember that Crowley himself had both a great respect for Islam and had considered becoming a Muslim at one point himself. > That said, he's never given up the THEORY, but I > don't > believe he's as much in the PRACTICE as he was back > in > the Eighties. > > There actually is a section for Thelemic discussion > on > Jester's www.killing-joke.com, but almost no one > uses > it. Heh, I believe that my last post is the reason that nobody uses it anymore. ;) So much for me keeping a low profile here.... 93 93/93 A L P > > Grey > > > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:20:15 -0800 (PST) > > From: Djehuti111 > > Subject: > > To: gathering@misera.net > > Reply-To: gathering@misera.net > > > > --- foolscircle9ways > > wrote: > > > Snap! > > > KJ were also my intro to the old boy (so we're > not > > > taking this offlist, it's 'Class A' ON-TOPIC ;). > > > > LOL! > > > > > Around 79/80 there was a Sounds or NME listing > by > > > Jaz of his top 10 influences - anyone got > > > access/link to this? Only other one I'm sure of > > from > > > said list is Herbert von Karajan, conductor of > > > Berlin Philharmonic and Most Evil Man in the > World > > > (shome mishtake shurely?). Would be interesting > to > > > see the original article again (Antoni? Anybody? > > > Jelbody?) to see who the other eight were > (though > > I > > > think he of the Golden Harp got a mention!!!). > > > > > > And Jaz's "Thelemic leanings" were tapping into > > the > > > Aeon well beyond BTATS: even beyond Outside the > > > Gate, yea, beyond Outside the Gate! > > > > I was just mentioning that beyond BTATS, the pro > > Crowley "leanings" became much less apparent. > > > > A L P > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 27 23:28:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:28:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <135.287432d0.2cf7c999@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031127232851.26307.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings Jel, --- Jelbod@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 27/11/03 13:19:31 Pacific > Standard Time, > djehuti111@yahoo.com writes: > > > I'm just not up to causing much of a ruckus these > > days. ;) > > > > > > Right bloody shame that Aleph. > > I loved it when you used to get started. LOL! Thanks for the vote of confidence! Looks like it didn't last very long though! ;) A L P > > Jel > ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 00:35:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:35:30 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] TOTALLY OT: Alice 2004 for the SoM fans on the list In-Reply-To: <005901c3b52c$4af5b130$9c647ad5@goths> Message-ID: <20031128013335.H73008-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Pagan wrote: > Remixes by Dirty Funker. There went last nights dinner :( "Alice in her disco dress, to kill she thanks you and raves on" ? b From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 00:38:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:38:43 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] cover versions In-Reply-To: <000a01c3cccb$b06c70b0$6827baac@sn7212787026> Message-ID: <20031128013740.C73008-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, Ford Prefect wrote: > thanks for all those covers, added Parallax 1 's we have joy for padding, removed ms mclaughlin (sorry sarah). s'pose metallica wouldn't allow the wait. I wouldn't allow Selloutica to blemish the collection more than necessary. Parallax1 should actually be there, but maybe i forgot to update the HTML. > mrs graham hears A-Ha(!) everytime in Love Like Blood and suggests a version with Morton whtashisface, any chance anybody? Morten Harket or something, his last name describes my sentiments for him. b From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 01:44:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:44:54 -0500 Subject: [kj] ot - giving thanks Message-ID: <00a901c3b551$394c8380$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C3B527.4FB638C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The first official Thanksgiving wasn't a festive gathering of Indians and Pilgrims, but rather a celebration of the massacre of 700 Pequot men, women and children, an anthropologist says. Due to age and illness his voice cracks as he talks about the holiday, but William B. Newell, 84, talks with force as he discusses Thanksgiving. Newell, a Penobscot, has degrees from two universities, and was the former chairman of the anthropology department at the University of Connecticut. "Thanksgiving Day was first officially proclaimed by the Governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1637 to commemorate the massacre of 700 men, = women and children who were celebrating their annual green corn dance-Thanksgiving Day to them-in their own house," Newell said. "Gathered in this place of meeting they were attacked by mercenaries and Dutch and English. The Indians were ordered from the building and as they came forth they were shot down. The rest were burned alive in the building," he said. Newell based his research on studies of Holland Documents and the 13 volume Colonial Documentary History, both thick sets of letters and reports from colonial officials to their superiors and the king in England, and the private papers of Sir William Johnson, British Indian agent for the New York colony for 30 years in the mid-1600s. "My research is authentic because it is documentary," Newell said. "You can't get anything more accurate than that because it is first hand. It is not hearsay." Newell said the next 100 Thanksgivings commemorated the killing of the Indians at what is now Groton, Ct. [home of a nuclear submarine base] rather than a celebration with them. He said the image of Indians and Pilgrims sitting around a large table to celebrate Thanksgiving Day was "fictitious" although Indians did share food with the first settlers.=20 ------------- as W makes a stop in iraq today, it is good to see the tradition is = reaching new horizons ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C3B527.4FB638C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The first official Thanksgiving = wasn't a festive=20 gathering of Indians
and Pilgrims, but rather a celebration of the = massacre=20 of 700 Pequot
men, women and children, an anthropologist says. Due to = age and=20 illness
his voice cracks as he talks about the holiday, but William = B.=20 Newell,
84, talks with force as he discusses Thanksgiving. Newell, a=20 Penobscot,
has degrees from two universities, and was the former = chairman of=20 the
anthropology department at the University of=20 Connecticut.

"Thanksgiving Day was first officially proclaimed by = the=20 Governor of the
Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1637 to commemorate the = massacre=20 of 700 men,
women and children who were celebrating their annual = green=20 corn
dance-Thanksgiving Day to them-in their own house," Newell=20 said.

"Gathered in this place of meeting they were attacked by=20 mercenaries and
Dutch and English. The Indians were ordered from the = building=20 and as
they came forth they were shot down. The rest were burned = alive in=20 the
building," he said.

Newell based his research on studies = of=20 Holland Documents and the 13
volume Colonial Documentary History, = both thick=20 sets of letters and
reports from colonial officials to their = superiors and=20 the king in
England, and the private papers of Sir William Johnson, = British=20 Indian
agent for the New York colony for 30 years in the=20 mid-1600s.

"My research is authentic because it is documentary," = Newell=20 said. "You
can't get anything more accurate than that because it is = first=20 hand. It
is not hearsay."

Newell said the next 100 = Thanksgivings=20 commemorated the killing of the
Indians at what is now Groton, Ct. = [home of a=20 nuclear submarine base]
rather than a celebration with them. He said = the=20 image of Indians and
Pilgrims sitting around a large table to = celebrate=20 Thanksgiving Day was
"fictitious" although Indians did share food = with the=20 first settlers.
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as W makes a stop in iraq today, it is good to see = the=20 tradition is reaching new horizons
------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C3B527.4FB638C0-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 02:49:43 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:49:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] cover versions In-Reply-To: <20031128013740.C73008-100000@mother.brap.dk> from "Bo Krogsgaard" at Nov 28, 2003 01:38:43 AM Message-ID: <200311280249.hAS2nhA5013430@basil.jkm.net> > Morten Harket or something, his last name describes my sentiments for him. Just curious since I know someone with a surname very similar to Harket, what sort of sentiment does it evoke? ;-) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 02:47:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:47:51 EST Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" Message-ID: <11a.2ba57aae.2cf81157@aol.com> --part1_11a.2ba57aae.2cf81157_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not to sound stupid, but who the hell is Crowley? --part1_11a.2ba57aae.2cf81157_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not to sound stupid, but who the hell is Crowley? --part1_11a.2ba57aae.2cf81157_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 02:56:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:56:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] OT: Happy Thankgiving In-Reply-To: <6d.1d949597.2cf7dcd6@aol.com> from "Jelbod@aol.com" at Nov 27, 2003 06:03:50 PM Message-ID: <200311280256.hAS2u8G8013539@basil.jkm.net> > With all due respect.....BOLLOX Oh, it's that part of the turkey that's done over there?! (LOL) Sorry, couldn't resist. ;-) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 03:45:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 04:45:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] cover versions In-Reply-To: <200311280249.hAS2nhA5013430@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: <20031128044423.Q79865-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > Just curious since I know someone with a surname very similar to > Harket, what sort of sentiment does it evoke? ;-) Hark-it, as in spitting at him or making ure that the rest of the puke comes out after hearing one of their songs. b From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 05:14:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:14:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] cover versions In-Reply-To: <20031128044423.Q79865-100000@mother.brap.dk> from "Bo Krogsgaard" at Nov 28, 2003 04:45:17 AM Message-ID: <200311280514.hAS5EeS4014308@basil.jkm.net> > > Just curious since I know someone with a surname very similar to > > Harket, what sort of sentiment does it evoke? ;-) > > Hark-it, as in spitting at him or making ure that the rest of the puke > comes out after hearing one of their songs. ROTFL! By the way, my friend's surname is Harkness. I don't know if I have the heart to tell him this latest joke on his surname ;-) From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 05:15:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:15:54 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <11a.2ba57aae.2cf81157@aol.com> from "GregSlawson@aol.com" at Nov 27, 2003 09:47:51 PM Message-ID: <200311280515.hAS5FsE1014345@basil.jkm.net> > Not to sound stupid, but who the hell is Crowley? As in Alastair? Jimmy Page was into him before Jaz was, I think..... do a google search -- into the spiritual and occult. From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 07:02:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:02:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <200311280515.hAS5FsE1014345@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: <20031128070231.42421.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com> --- Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > Not to sound stupid, but who the hell is Crowley? > > As in Alastair? As in Aleister even. > Jimmy Page was into him before Jaz was, I think..... Even bought his former residence. > do a google search -- into the spiritual and occult. It's sure to unearth some "nuggets". ;) A L P > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 07:08:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (mike coles) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:08:10 +0000 Subject: [kj] baby Message-ID: Congratulations Javier and mrs J. Our little girl was born on 14th November. Sixteen years ago! They don't stay little for long, so make the most of it. cheers, colesy -- Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 07:16:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:16:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] ot - giving thanks In-Reply-To: <00a901c3b551$394c8380$338b6e41@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20031128071632.67320.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah, that's what I meant, thanks! As an Irish/Cherokee hybrid I'm WELL aware of how Native Americans have been treated by the conquering European hordes! You get 5 gold Stars for your excellent E-research. Perhaps you should be thankful today for your internet connection. I sincerely hope it's not all you have to be thankful for. You want to start on your Christmas research project now? A L P --- fluw wrote: > The first official Thanksgiving wasn't a festive > gathering of Indians > and Pilgrims, but rather a celebration of the > massacre of 700 Pequot > men, women and children, an anthropologist says. Due > to age and illness > his voice cracks as he talks about the holiday, but > William B. Newell, > 84, talks with force as he discusses Thanksgiving. > Newell, a Penobscot, > has degrees from two universities, and was the > former chairman of the > anthropology department at the University of > Connecticut. > > "Thanksgiving Day was first officially proclaimed by > the Governor of the > Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1637 to commemorate the > massacre of 700 men, > women and children who were celebrating their annual > green corn > dance-Thanksgiving Day to them-in their own house," > Newell said. > > "Gathered in this place of meeting they were > attacked by mercenaries and > Dutch and English. The Indians were ordered from the > building and as > they came forth they were shot down. The rest were > burned alive in the > building," he said. > > Newell based his research on studies of Holland > Documents and the 13 > volume Colonial Documentary History, both thick sets > of letters and > reports from colonial officials to their superiors > and the king in > England, and the private papers of Sir William > Johnson, British Indian > agent for the New York colony for 30 years in the > mid-1600s. > > "My research is authentic because it is > documentary," Newell said. "You > can't get anything more accurate than that because > it is first hand. It > is not hearsay." > > Newell said the next 100 Thanksgivings commemorated > the killing of the > Indians at what is now Groton, Ct. [home of a > nuclear submarine base] > rather than a celebration with them. He said the > image of Indians and > Pilgrims sitting around a large table to celebrate > Thanksgiving Day was > "fictitious" although Indians did share food with > the first settlers. > > ------------- > as W makes a stop in iraq today, it is good to see > the tradition is reaching new horizons ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 08:07:19 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:07:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] ot - giving thanks In-Reply-To: <20031128071632.67320.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com> from "Djehuti111" at Nov 27, 2003 11:16:32 PM Message-ID: <200311280807.hAS87J9V015227@basil.jkm.net> > As an Irish/Cherokee hybrid I'm WELL aware of how > Native Americans have been treated by the conquering > European hordes! I'm an English/Scottish/Welsh/Cherokee hybrid (1/16 Cherokee). I think that the way the Native Americans were treated was a sin. My Cherokee ancestors hid out away from the Trail of Tears and managed to stay in their Tennessee mountain homelands, but the Civil War forced them out and temporarily north to Indiana. On the other hand it is a holiday to get together with friends and family and EAT without the pressures of having to go broke buying presents, without religion getting in the way..... It's like the traditional bridal processional and recessional. These being politically correct days, you can't use "Here Comes The Bride" for example, because it comes from a forced wedding during a Wagner opera and Wagner was an atheist or some such.... and this isn't the religious right talking, it's the *Anglicans* for pity's sake. Now if you hadn't told me, precious few would even be aware of where the music came from. So now if you marry in a church you have to ditch traditional music!!! I don't know how far to take political correctness. Should I move "back" somewhere, and if so, where? If we were to repatriate the land to the Native Americans (of which I am partially descended), should I send the other 15/16ths of myself back to .... England? and can you imagine, there'd be no room left! Could the African-Americans stay, given that their ancestors had no choice in coming? From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 08:27:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:27:39 EST Subject: [kj] ot - giving thanks Message-ID: <7e.421f6bae.2cf860fb@aol.com> --part1_7e.421f6bae.2cf860fb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, thanks for the excellent info. on Thanksgiving. I've been looking for something like this, that tells the true origins of the holiday. I forwarded it to lots of people. Unfortunately, the US is still behaving like it will do whatever it takes to conquer others. --part1_7e.421f6bae.2cf860fb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, thanks for the excellent info. on Thanksgiving. I= 've been looking for something like this, that tells the true origins of the= holiday. I forwarded it to lots of people. Unfortunately, the US is still b= ehaving like it will do whatever it takes to conquer others. --part1_7e.421f6bae.2cf860fb_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 09:34:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 04:34:46 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Message-ID: <7AD7C92D.15E28013.0004DF86@aol.com> Jelbod writes: > 3 months.......oh......such bliss.....then they grow up....teeeethe.....develope personalities....want things....argue.....fucking annoy the shit out of ya....but you still love em. Yeah, and that's just 4 months! :) Jamie From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 09:43:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:43:45 +0100 Subject: [kj] ot - giving thanks Message-ID: <53f62253f7da.53f7da53f622@iol.cz> Very interesting=2E ----- P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va ----- Od=3A fluw =3Cfluwdot=40earthlink=2Enet=3E Datum=3A p=E1tek=2C 28=2E listopadu 2003 v 2=3A44 dop P=F8edm=ECt=3A =5Bkj=5D ot - giving thanks =3E The first official Thanksgiving wasn=27t a = =3E festive gathering of Indians =3E and Pilgrims=2C but rather a celebration of = =3E the massacre of 700 Pequot =3E men=2C women and children=2C an anthropologist = =3E says=2E Due to age and illness =3E his voice cracks as he talks about the = =3E holiday=2C but William B=2E Newell=2C =3E 84=2C talks with force as he discusses = =3E Thanksgiving=2E Newell=2C a Penobscot=2C =3E has degrees from two universities=2C and was = =3E the former chairman of the =3E anthropology department at the University of = =3E Connecticut=2E =3E =22Thanksgiving Day was first officially = =3E proclaimed by the Governor of the =3E Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1637 to = =3E commemorate the massacre of 700 men=2C = =3E women and children who were celebrating = =3E their annual green corn =3E dance-Thanksgiving Day to them-in their own = =3E house=2C=22 Newell said=2E =3E = =3E =22Gathered in this place of meeting they were = =3E attacked by mercenaries and =3E Dutch and English=2E The Indians were ordered = =3E from the building and as =3E they came forth they were shot down=2E The = =3E rest were burned alive in the =3E building=2C=22 he said=2E =3E = =3E Newell based his research on studies of = =3E Holland Documents and the 13 =3E volume Colonial Documentary History=2C both = =3E thick sets of letters and =3E reports from colonial officials to their = =3E superiors and the king in =3E England=2C and the private papers of Sir = =3E William Johnson=2C British Indian =3E agent for the New York colony for 30 years = =3E in the mid-1600s=2E =3E = =3E =22My research is authentic because it is = =3E documentary=2C=22 Newell said=2E =22You =3E can=27t get anything more accurate than that = =3E because it is first hand=2E It =3E is not hearsay=2E=22 =3E = =3E Newell said the next 100 Thanksgivings = =3E commemorated the killing of the =3E Indians at what is now Groton=2C Ct=2E =5Bhome of = =3E a nuclear submarine base=5D =3E rather than a celebration with them=2E He said = =3E the image of Indians and =3E Pilgrims sitting around a large table to = =3E celebrate Thanksgiving Day was =3E =22fictitious=22 although Indians did share food = =3E with the first settlers=2E = =3E = =3E ------------- =3E as W makes a stop in iraq today=2C it is good = =3E to see the tradition is reaching new horizons From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 09:37:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 04:37:08 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Message-ID: <4E8BB168.1C856332.0004DF86@aol.com> wittz@btinternet.com writes: > My little girl is now 3 months old and its hard work but worth it. What's always amazed me (and continues to do so) is that I kept thinking "this is incredible, surely it can't get any better" - but it does. Jamie From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 09:51:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:51:48 +0100 Subject: [kj] ot - giving thanks Message-ID: <54a2e4545246.54524654a2e4@iol.cz> I guess the celebartion lost its original character and meaning later on=2E= =2E=2E Just president GW Bush decided to go to the very roots of it and celebrat= ed thanksgiving in Iraq=2E-) Pavel ----- P=F9vodn=ED zpr=E1va ----- Od=3A fluw =3Cfluwdot=40earthlink=2Enet=3E Datum=3A p=E1tek=2C 28=2E listopadu 2003 v 2=3A44 dop P=F8edm=ECt=3A =5Bkj=5D ot - giving thanks =3E The first official Thanksgiving wasn=27t a = =3E festive gathering of Indians =3E and Pilgrims=2C but rather a celebration of = =3E the massacre of 700 Pequot =3E men=2C women and children=2C an anthropologist = =3E says=2E Due to age and illness =3E his voice cracks as he talks about the = =3E holiday=2C but William B=2E Newell=2C =3E 84=2C talks with force as he discusses = =3E Thanksgiving=2E Newell=2C a Penobscot=2C =3E has degrees from two universities=2C and was = =3E the former chairman of the =3E anthropology department at the University of = =3E Connecticut=2E =3E =22Thanksgiving Day was first officially = =3E proclaimed by the Governor of the =3E Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1637 to = =3E commemorate the massacre of 700 men=2C = =3E women and children who were celebrating = =3E their annual green corn =3E dance-Thanksgiving Day to them-in their own = =3E house=2C=22 Newell said=2E =3E = =3E =22Gathered in this place of meeting they were = =3E attacked by mercenaries and =3E Dutch and English=2E The Indians were ordered = =3E from the building and as =3E they came forth they were shot down=2E The = =3E rest were burned alive in the =3E building=2C=22 he said=2E =3E = =3E Newell based his research on studies of = =3E Holland Documents and the 13 =3E volume Colonial Documentary History=2C both = =3E thick sets of letters and =3E reports from colonial officials to their = =3E superiors and the king in =3E England=2C and the private papers of Sir = =3E William Johnson=2C British Indian =3E agent for the New York colony for 30 years = =3E in the mid-1600s=2E =3E = =3E =22My research is authentic because it is = =3E documentary=2C=22 Newell said=2E =22You =3E can=27t get anything more accurate than that = =3E because it is first hand=2E It =3E is not hearsay=2E=22 =3E = =3E Newell said the next 100 Thanksgivings = =3E commemorated the killing of the =3E Indians at what is now Groton=2C Ct=2E =5Bhome of = =3E a nuclear submarine base=5D =3E rather than a celebration with them=2E He said = =3E the image of Indians and =3E Pilgrims sitting around a large table to = =3E celebrate Thanksgiving Day was =3E =22fictitious=22 although Indians did share food = =3E with the first settlers=2E = =3E = =3E ------------- =3E as W makes a stop in iraq today=2C it is good = =3E to see the tradition is reaching new horizons From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 10:45:54 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Astrid Pretterhofer) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:45:54 +0100 (MET) Subject: [kj] ot - giving thanks References: <54a2e4545246.54524654a2e4@iol.cz> Message-ID: <26626.1070016354@www68.gmx.net> > I guess the celebartion lost its original character and meaning later on. > .. > Just president GW Bush decided to go to the very roots of it and celebrat > ed thanksgiving in Iraq.-) yes, and even though he still has no mercy on the human beings, he's pardoning a turkey! Astrid. > Pavel > > > ----- Pùvodní zpráva ----- > Od: fluw > Datum: pátek, 28. listopadu 2003 v 2:44 dop > Pøedmìt: [kj] ot - giving thanks > > > The first official Thanksgiving wasn't a > > > festive gathering of Indians > > and Pilgrims, but rather a celebration of > > > the massacre of 700 Pequot > > men, women and children, an anthropologist > > > says. Due to age and illness > > his voice cracks as he talks about the > > > holiday, but William B. Newell, > > 84, talks with force as he discusses > > > Thanksgiving. Newell, a Penobscot, > > has degrees from two universities, and was > > > the former chairman of the > > anthropology department at the University of > > > Connecticut. > > "Thanksgiving Day was first officially > > > proclaimed by the Governor of the > > Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1637 to > > > commemorate the massacre of 700 men, > > > women and children who were celebrating > > > their annual green corn > > dance-Thanksgiving Day to them-in their own > > > house," Newell said. > > > > > "Gathered in this place of meeting they were > > > attacked by mercenaries and > > Dutch and English. The Indians were ordered > > > from the building and as > > they came forth they were shot down. The > > > rest were burned alive in the > > building," he said. > > > > > Newell based his research on studies of > > > Holland Documents and the 13 > > volume Colonial Documentary History, both > > > thick sets of letters and > > reports from colonial officials to their > > > superiors and the king in > > England, and the private papers of Sir > > > William Johnson, British Indian > > agent for the New York colony for 30 years > > > in the mid-1600s. > > > > > "My research is authentic because it is > > > documentary," Newell said. "You > > can't get anything more accurate than that > > > because it is first hand. It > > is not hearsay." > > > > > Newell said the next 100 Thanksgivings > > > commemorated the killing of the > > Indians at what is now Groton, Ct. [home of > > > a nuclear submarine base] > > rather than a celebration with them. He said > > > the image of Indians and > > Pilgrims sitting around a large table to > > > celebrate Thanksgiving Day was > > "fictitious" although Indians did share food > > > with the first settlers. > > > > > > ------------- > > as W makes a stop in iraq today, it is good > > > to see the tradition is reaching new horizons > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++ From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 11:35:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:35:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] clocking in Message-ID: <4169034.1070019335395.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Sat looking at a rather spectacular Malicious Damage clock going backwards on my wall All together now "The second hand really moves quite fast, ha... I never thought of that!" N -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 14:15:04 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:15:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <200311280515.hAS5FsE1014345@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: <20031128151443.P196-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > Jimmy Page was into him before Jaz was, I think..... Jimmy Page bought Crowley's old house. b From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 14:44:29 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Phillipps Marc) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:44:29 -0000 Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" Message-ID: <07368E48859AB74A9F1BB3EC5E003184015FF17D@beh-exch.beh.nhs.uk> >Jimmy Page bought Crowley's old house. Boleskine house . . http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/7069/bole-2.html Marc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bo Krogsgaard [SMTP:t23@mother.brap.dk] > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 2:15 PM > To: gathering@misera.net > Subject: Re: [kj] "a very dubious character" > > > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > > Jimmy Page was into him before Jaz was, I think..... > > Jimmy Page bought Crowley's old house. > > > b > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. The Health Informatics Service disclaims any liability for action taken reliant on the content of this message. This communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet Enfield & Haringey Health Communities. From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 15:29:06 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:29:06 -0600 Subject: [kj] ot - giving thanks In-Reply-To: <26626.1070016354@www68.gmx.net> Message-ID: On 11/28/03 4:45 AM, "Astrid Pretterhofer" wrote= : > yes, and even though he still has no mercy on the human beings, he's > pardoning a turkey! >=20 > Astrid. That=B9s coz he IS a turkey... KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 15:36:42 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:36:42 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT: Happy Thankgiving In-Reply-To: <20031127211511.14378.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 11/27/03 3:15 PM, "Djehuti111" wrote: > Greetings Family, >=20 > I'd just like to wish everybody a Happy Thanksgiving. >=20 > I hope that we can all be introspective for a moment > today to recognize everything in our lives that we > have to be truly thankful for. >=20 > ~Aleph And a very happy T+1 (sorry, I am a little late..) to you. Even though our European brothers and sisters don=B9t celebrate it, I still a= m wishing everyone on the list well today.... Things to be thankful for? Wife, kids, friends...both sets...ones I have me= t in the flesh, and e-friends, like on the gathering, a roof over our heads, food in the gut. Beyond that, in all seriousness, what else do we really need? As shitty as some years can be, I still count myself lucky. So, I raise my glass of Cabernet to you all....CHEERS! KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 16:14:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jari Pakarinen) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:14:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID: <97489c9728e6.9728e697489c@utu.fi> You could also think of fall as autumn or =22syksy=22 in finnish=2E =3E ----- Original Message ----- =3E From=3A =22Stevie =5C=22workslave=5C=22 Robinson=22 = =3E =3Cheiferboy=40robinsonworld=2Efreeserve=2Eco=2Euk=3EDate=3A Tuesday=2C= November = =3E 25=2C 2003 5=3A16 pm =3E Subject=3A Re=3A =5Bkj=5D Killing Language =3E = =3E =3E = =3E =3E The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I = =3E =3E translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums = =3E into = =3E =3E finnish=2C and realised how far the literal translation was from = =3E the = =3E =3E meaning of the song=2E =22Fall Of Because=22 was a particular pai= n in = =3E =3E the arse =27cos it doesn=27t make sense LITERALLY in any language= =2C = =3E so = =3E =3E I settled for =22J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen=22 (The Overthrow of Re= asoning)=2E =3E =3E = =3E =3E = =3E =3E =22Fall of Because=22 is a quote from Alisatr Crowley=2C = =3E =3E = =3E =3E http=3A//www=2Esacred-texts=2Ecom/oto/engccxx=2Ehtm =3E =3E = =3E =3E Well=2C thinking about=2C I=27ve always though it was=2C I=27ve n= ever = =3E known = =3E =3E that for a fact=2E=2E=2E =3E =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =3E =3E Gathering mailing list =3E =3E Gathering=40misera=2Enet =3E =3E http=3A//four=2Epairlist=2Enet/mailman/listinfo/gathering =3E =3E = =3E From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 16:15:55 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jari Pakarinen) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:15:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Killing Language Message-ID: <97207197242d.97242d972071@utu.fi> Hi=2C They are probably as important as anything else in KJ for me=2E = Especially I=27ve felt that best lyrics from Brighter are the best = ever written (Twilight=2C Chessboards etc=2E) ANYWHERE=2E Translating them to finnish is a bit of a task=2C really=2E Meaning of = the words is different=2C so they don=27t quite add up=2E = Jari (from Finland) =3E An open question for all non-native English speakers onlist- how = =3E important are Jaz=27s lyrics to you and how much do you understand=3F= = =3E = =3E The reason I asked is that during a prolonged attack of ennui I = =3E translated the titles of all the songs on the first 3 albums into = =3E finnish=2C and realised how far the literal translation was from the = =3E meaning of the song=2E =22Fall Of Because=22 was a particular pain in= = =3E the arse =27cos it doesn=27t make sense LITERALLY in any language=2C = so = =3E I settled for =22J=E4rkeilyn Kukistuminen=22 (The Overthrow of Reason= ing)=2E =3E = =3E = =3E = =3E = =3E luv from =3E = =3E Stimro =3E = =3E =22Mummy=2C what=27s a Killing Joke=3F=22 =3E = =3E =22A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex=22 =3E = =3E = =3E From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 16:16:28 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jari Pakarinen) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:16:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] Neon Hearts and 1919 Message-ID: <9710d796df76.96df769710d7@utu.fi> Anyone got 1919 as MP3's ? Jari > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bo Krogsgaard > Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:50 pm > Subject: Re: [kj] Neon Hearts and 1919 > > > > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > > > > A friend of mine claims the band 1919 is much like KJ -- I > don't > > know> of them, so thought I would ask you lot. He also likes > Neon > > Hearts,> and wonders what you think of them. > > > > Half their songs indeed sound so close to Killing Joke that if i > > didn'tknow better, i would think it was a missing album from > > around the Fire > > Dances era. They aren't THAT good but not really bad either. > > > > Never heard Neon Hearts. > > > > > > b > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gathering mailing list > > Gathering@misera.net > > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > > From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 16:28:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Greyson Stoehr) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:28:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031128095445.0A833DC19@four.pairlist.net> Message-ID: <20031128162851.17733.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Aleph: Before anyone beings to think I'm some kind of closed-minded, opinionated idiot, you should know that my comments were based out of knowledge of the Abra Melim and the cautionary story told of the practitioner who changed his basic belief system...and ended up dead. The cautions throughout that book warn against it, and I was specifically pointing that out to Jaz, although my earlier synopsis of our conversation did not tell you that. SL MacGregor-Mathers may have produced that book's translation, but it was very fundamental to Aleister Crowley to use the working of the Abra Melim in the first place. I was only reporting what was told to me by Jaz so that it could be seen where HE, himself, had drawn a line. I wasn't presenting anything I said or did as being anything more than it was. Grey > From: Djehuti111 > > Jaz decided it was time to go 'back to his > > roots' and become a Muslim. He'd more or less > > renounced Thelema by that point, and when I argued > > that I saw what he'd done as a regressive move, he > > couldn't believe it. > > Personally, I'd have a hard time hearing that from > someone too. > > I feel that I'm the only person qualified to make > judgement calls about something as personal as my > own > spiritual beliefs. > In my mind, what that boils down to is someone > telling me that they know better than I about how to > live my life or which pantheon of God/dess' speak to > me. > > Liber AL has the following to say on such matters: > > "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." > > "...So with thy all; thou has no right but to do thy > will." > "Do that, and no other shall say nay" > > That aside, remember that Crowley himself had both > a > great respect for Islam and had considered becoming > a > Muslim at one point himself. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 16:54:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:54:36 -0600 Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031127232704.54147.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 11/27/03 5:27 PM, "Djehuti111" wrote: > Heh, I believe that my last post is the reason that > nobody uses it anymore. ;) > > > So much for me keeping a low profile here.... > > 93 93/93 > A L P I dunno why it has died off. Guess Aleph scared them all away. Or...was it Grey's post...haha Perhaps just the tour, and everyone is on the TD&RS portion, of current news =of the band. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 16:48:37 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:48:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" Message-ID: <390477.1070038117673.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> ...and Killing Joke went on to 'liberate' certain items from said house, if we're to believe an outrageous rumour that we should never repeat in polite company > from: Bo Krogsgaard > date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:15:04 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] "a very dubious character" > > > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Amy Moseley Rupp wrote: > > > Jimmy Page was into him before Jaz was, I think..... > > Jimmy Page bought Crowley's old house. > > > b > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 18:34:17 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Djehuti111) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:34:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031128162851.17733.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031128183417.73701.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings Grey, --- Greyson Stoehr wrote: > Aleph: > > Before anyone beings to think I'm some kind of > closed-minded, opinionated idiot, you should know > that > my comments were based out of knowledge of the Abra > Melim and the cautionary story told of the > practitioner who changed his basic belief > system...and > ended up dead. I promise that this is not my opinion of you, nor was I trying to imply to anyone else that you are either close-minded or an opinionated idiot. Given my history on the Gathering, I'd wager that more people actually think of ME that way. ;) I was merely pointing out that I'd be upset if somebody told me that they viewed my current spiritual beliefs as a regression. I understand now that there was more to your conversation with Jaz that you posted here yesterday. Sorry for any confusion. > The cautions throughout that book > warn > against it, and I was specifically pointing that out > to Jaz, although my earlier synopsis of our > conversation did not tell you that. SL > MacGregor-Mathers may have produced that book's > translation, but it was very fundamental to Aleister > Crowley to use the working of the Abra Melim in the > first place. It's been a long time since I've read Abramelin. I do seem to recall a warning about changing your faith "mid operation", which of course would be detrimental to the working and VERY dangerous to the magician himself. I wasn't aware that Jaz had embarked upon that specific journey though. > I was only reporting what was told to me by Jaz so > that it could be seen where HE, himself, had drawn a > line. I wasn't presenting anything I said or did as > being anything more than it was. I get a little lost here. What I read in your previous email was that you had said that you'd seen his going back to his Muslim roots as a regression. I think that I understand this to mean that this was from the viewpoint of Abramelin and it was not your own opinion? Either way, apologies again for any misunderstandings/miscommunications from my end. A L P > > Grey > > > From: Djehuti111 > > > > Jaz decided it was time to go 'back to his > > > roots' and become a Muslim. He'd more or less > > > renounced Thelema by that point, and when I > argued > > > that I saw what he'd done as a regressive move, > he > > > couldn't believe it. > > > > Personally, I'd have a hard time hearing that > from > > someone too. > > > > I feel that I'm the only person qualified to make > > judgement calls about something as personal as my > > own > > spiritual beliefs. > > In my mind, what that boils down to is someone > > telling me that they know better than I about how > to > > live my life or which pantheon of God/dess' speak > to > > me. > > > > Liber AL has the following to say on such > matters: > > > > "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." > > > > "...So with thy all; thou has no right but to do > thy > > will." > > "Do that, and no other shall say nay" > > > > That aside, remember that Crowley himself had > both > > a > > great respect for Islam and had considered > becoming > > a > > Muslim at one point himself. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering ===== "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms, the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 19:34:47 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Madani) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:34:47 -0500 Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" References: <390477.1070038117673.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <002101c3b5e6$aea17bf0$2a508c0a@Pimpster> Since when was The Gathering polite company? ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [kj] "a very dubious character" > ...and Killing Joke went on to 'liberate' certain items from said house, if we're to believe an outrageous rumour that we should never repeat in polite company From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 20:07:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:07:53 -0000 Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" References: <20031127211722.53161.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <015b01c3b5ec$7c78d9b0$54d787d9@mycomputer> > wrote: > > I have to say that considering what an influence The > > Beast was on Killing > > Joke I have always been mystified about how little > > he is discussed round > > these parts. > > I'm just not up to causing much of a ruckus these > days. ;) > > A L P Not much Crowley influence on the last album was there? And yes, that was a challenge! From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 21:13:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (fluw) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:13:24 -0500 Subject: [kj] ot - F&*^ microsoft!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <000001c3b5f4$913dcce0$338b6e41@earthlink.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3B5CA.8CCEF320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FUCK = microsoft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the cowardly little blongle who broke in, chinga tu = madre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry for yelling dear gatherers... some will be happy to learn that i = am signing off till i can sort this shit. for those who are not, i will = see ya down the trail. till then.. time moves backwards ticky tocky=20 006 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3B5CA.8CCEF320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FUCK=20 microsoft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!= !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and the cowardly little blongle who broke = in, chinga=20 tu madre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
sorry for yelling dear gatherers... some will be = happy to=20 learn that i am signing off till i can sort this shit. for those = who are=20 not, i will see ya down the trail. till then.. time moves backwards = ticky=20 tocky 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3B5CA.8CCEF320-- From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 22:17:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (no joke) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:17:46 +0000 Subject: [kj] Joke Free Message-ID: _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 22:27:34 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (no joke) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:27:34 +0000 Subject: [kj] Joke Free Message-ID: This weeks Kerrang cover disc features Blood On Your Hands. Apart from that and the entertainment value provided by Chimaira and Lamb Of God...and maybe Deftones (hmmm maybe not), all else is a tawdry collection of the sort of bands that start with a half decent chunky riff but quickly decend into pre pubescent boy band whining chorus'....and Kerrang stil insist on trumpeting that laughable caberet act, living on stolen riffs, known as the Darkness. Many more bands like this and I'm of down the mall with an uzi no joke p _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 22:48:44 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:48:44 -0500 Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! Message-ID: <200311282248.hASMmUcw002782@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Cheers, Javier, that's great news!! Yeah, I'm still in a wide-eyed state of shock about it (we're now five months in...Peg is now starting to show it). It's amazing. Glad your little one made the cozy womb/big bad world transition. Give her my welcome. Cheers!! Alex in NYC ---------- >From: "Javier Garcia" >To: gathering@misera.net >Subject: [kj] OT: Healthy -new born- Babies!!! >Date: Wed, Nov 26, 2003, 9:01 PM > >Being away for a while, that's why I'm just replying to Alex's great >news!!, congratulations Alex and the future mom!!!!! > >One of the things that took me away for a while was the arrival of my >little baby girl Jimena, who was born a week ago (november 19th). It;s a >wonderful feeling... she's gorgeus!! (what else can I say!?!?!??). > >Cheeeers > >Javier >mexico city > >> >> >>> >>> Despite being in a bit of a vocational tailspin at >>> the moment and truly sick of my job, I received some >>> truly great news today that has significantly lifted >>> the black, brooding cloud over my head. We got the >>> results back from my wife's Amniocentesis today >>> (three days early) and we got the all clear, meaning >>> that our unborn baby is healthy, normal, fine and >>> perfect. I'm on a cloud as a result! >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gathering mailing list >>> Gathering@misera.net >>> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gathering mailing list >>Gathering@misera.net >>http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> > > > >____________________________________________________________ >Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! >http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Fri Nov 28 23:58:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:58:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Joke Free In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031129005817.V65198-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, no joke wrote: > Many more bands like this and I'm of down the mall with an uzi See ya there at payday, i'm out of ammo. b From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 01:14:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:14:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" Message-ID: <7629121.1070068455693.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> What I meant was, you can repeat this on the Gathering. Just not in polite company... > from: Madani > date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:34:47 > to: gathering@misera.net > subject: Re: [kj] "a very dubious character" > > Since when was The Gathering polite company? ;-) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [kj] "a very dubious character" > > > > ...and Killing Joke went on to 'liberate' certain items from said house, > if we're to believe an outrageous rumour that we should never repeat in > polite company > > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering -- 'Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum' -- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 09:06:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:06:40 -0900 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomarrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.com Chatroom Message-ID: <009e01c3b658$206d09e0$e38d70d1@antifrz> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C3B60C.AA0198C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.killing-joke.com Hello Here's a word from Raven Jaz & Geordie. Be in Killing-Joke.com Chatroom 9:13 New Zealand time ! 04:11:41 depraven enters this room 04:12:49 [depraven] hello bastards,r a v e n,jaz & geordie here, 04:13:42 [depraven] today the 3 ov us have been walking in paradise = collecting the goods ofthe land. freshly hunted wild boar,green lipped = snapper ,muscles & pipis 04:14:28 [depraven] and a veritable feast 2 follow.recharging the = batteries 04:14:47 [depraven] here in EdEn 04:15:08 [depraven] for the 'hidden' kj work ov the next 3 mnths 04:16:04 [depraven] we are prepared to discuss the nature of some ov = this work 24 hours from now at 9:13 NZ time 04:16:56 [depraven] don't b late gatherers 04:17:29 [depraven] did we dream it? respect to cliff-edge/face 04:17:54 depraven exits from this room ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C3B60C.AA0198C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://www.killing-joke.com

Hello Here's a word = from Raven Jaz=20 & Geordie.

Be in Killing-Joke.com = Chatroom 9:13=20 New Zealand time !

 

04:11:41 depraven enters=20 this room

04:12:49 [depraven] hello bastards,r a v e n,jaz = &=20 geordie here,

04:13:42 [depraven] today the 3 ov us have been = walking in=20 paradise collecting the goods ofthe land. freshly hunted wild boar,green = lipped=20 snapper ,muscles & pipis

04:14:28 [depraven] and a veritable feast 2 = follow.recharging=20 the batteries

04:14:47 [depraven] here in EdEn

04:15:08 [depraven] for the 'hidden' kj work ov = the next 3=20 mnths

04:16:04 [depraven] we are prepared to discuss = the nature of=20 some ov this work 24 hours from now at 9:13 NZ time

04:16:56 [depraven] don't b late = gatherers

04:17:29 [depraven] did we dream it? respect to=20 cliff-edge/face

04:17:54 depraven exits=20 from this room

------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C3B60C.AA0198C0-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 09:45:39 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:45:39 -0600 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.com Chatroom In-Reply-To: <009e01c3b658$206d09e0$e38d70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: UGH... that's like 3:13AM here. Will be there...for sure. Cliff, you still have Mod/Admin privilege's on the chat right? URL:: http://killing-joke.com/chat See all of you in 24.... On 11/29/03 3:06 AM, "Cliff and Kara Livingston" wrote: > http://www.killing-joke.com > > Hello Here's a word from Raven Jaz & Geordie. > > Be in Killing-Joke.com Chatroom 9:13 New Zealand time ! > > > > 04:11:41 depraven enters this room > > 04:12:49 [depraven > nglish&Ver=H&U=Monk-A&R=Killing+Joke+Lobby&T=1&D=10&N= > 20&ST=1&NT=1&PWD_Hash=cf79ae6addba60ad018347359bd144d2&First=1 > #> ] hello bastards,r a v e n,jaz & geordie here, > > 04:13:42 [depraven > nglish&Ver=H&U=Monk-A&R=Killing+Joke+Lobby&T=1&D=10&N= > 20&ST=1&NT=1&PWD_Hash=cf79ae6addba60ad018347359bd144d2&First=1 > #> ] today the 3 ov us have been walking in paradise collecting the goods > ofthe land. freshly hunted wild boar,green lipped snapper ,muscles & pipis > > 04:14:28 [depraven > nglish&Ver=H&U=Monk-A&R=Killing+Joke+Lobby&T=1&D=10&N= > 20&ST=1&NT=1&PWD_Hash=cf79ae6addba60ad018347359bd144d2&First=1 > #> ] and a veritable feast 2 follow.recharging the batteries > > 04:14:47 [depraven > nglish&Ver=H&U=Monk-A&R=Killing+Joke+Lobby&T=1&D=10&N= > 20&ST=1&NT=1&PWD_Hash=cf79ae6addba60ad018347359bd144d2&First=1 > #> ] here in EdEn > > 04:15:08 [depraven > nglish&Ver=H&U=Monk-A&R=Killing+Joke+Lobby&T=1&D=10&N= > 20&ST=1&NT=1&PWD_Hash=cf79ae6addba60ad018347359bd144d2&First=1 > #> ] for the 'hidden' kj work ov the next 3 mnths > > 04:16:04 [depraven > nglish&Ver=H&U=Monk-A&R=Killing+Joke+Lobby&T=1&D=10&N= > 20&ST=1&NT=1&PWD_Hash=cf79ae6addba60ad018347359bd144d2&First=1 > #> ] we are prepared to discuss the nature of some ov this work 24 hours from > now at 9:13 NZ time > > 04:16:56 [depraven > nglish&Ver=H&U=Monk-A&R=Killing+Joke+Lobby&T=1&D=10&N= > 20&ST=1&NT=1&PWD_Hash=cf79ae6addba60ad018347359bd144d2&First=1 > #> ] don't b late gatherers > > 04:17:29 [depraven > nglish&Ver=H&U=Monk-A&R=Killing+Joke+Lobby&T=1&D=10&N= > 20&ST=1&NT=1&PWD_Hash=cf79ae6addba60ad018347359bd144d2&First=1 > #> ] did we dream it? respect to cliff-edge/face > > 04:17:54 depraven exits from this room > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 10:54:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mik Raven) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:54:16 -0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomarrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.com Chatroom References: <009e01c3b658$206d09e0$e38d70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: <00a801c3b667$2506df80$0200a8c0@Paulas> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C3B667.21EA5D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is that 9:15pm? If so I make that 8:15am UK time. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cliff and Kara Livingston=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Cc: Jester=20 Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomarrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.com = Chatroom http://www.killing-joke.com Hello Here's a word from Raven Jaz & Geordie. Be in Killing-Joke.com Chatroom 9:13 New Zealand time ! 04:11:41 depraven enters this room 04:12:49 [depraven] hello bastards,r a v e n,jaz & geordie here, 04:13:42 [depraven] today the 3 ov us have been walking in paradise = collecting the goods ofthe land. freshly hunted wild boar,green lipped = snapper ,muscles & pipis 04:14:28 [depraven] and a veritable feast 2 follow.recharging the = batteries 04:14:47 [depraven] here in EdEn 04:15:08 [depraven] for the 'hidden' kj work ov the next 3 mnths 04:16:04 [depraven] we are prepared to discuss the nature of some ov = this work 24 hours from now at 9:13 NZ time 04:16:56 [depraven] don't b late gatherers 04:17:29 [depraven] did we dream it? respect to cliff-edge/face 04:17:54 depraven exits from this room ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C3B667.21EA5D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is that 9:15pm? If so I make that = 8:15am UK=20 time.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Cliff = and Kara=20 Livingston
Cc: Jester
Sent: Saturday, November 29, = 2003 9:06=20 AM
Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat = live=20 tomarrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.com Chatroom

http://www.killing-joke.com

Hello Here's a word = from Raven Jaz=20 & Geordie.

Be in = Killing-Joke.com Chatroom=20 9:13 New Zealand time !

 

04:11:41 depraven=20 enters this room

04:12:49 [depraven] hello bastards,r a v e = n,jaz &=20 geordie here,

04:13:42 [depraven] today the 3 ov us have been = walking in=20 paradise collecting the goods ofthe land. freshly hunted wild = boar,green=20 lipped snapper ,muscles & pipis

04:14:28 [depraven] and a veritable feast 2=20 follow.recharging the batteries

04:14:47 [depraven] here in EdEn

04:15:08 [depraven] for the 'hidden' kj work ov = the next 3=20 mnths

04:16:04 [depraven] we are prepared to discuss = the nature=20 of some ov this work 24 hours from now at 9:13 NZ time

04:16:56 [depraven] don't b late = gatherers

04:17:29 [depraven] did we dream it? respect to = cliff-edge/face

04:17:54 depraven=20 exits from this = room

------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C3B667.21EA5D40-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 11:06:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bob Barathy) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:06:50 -0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OOoooo - better think of some sensible questions..... (doh!) Does that mean it will be 21.13 tonight in the UK? I'm confused. Bob UGH... that's like 3:13AM here. Will be there...for sure. Cliff, you still have Mod/Admin privilege's on the chat right? URL:: http://killing-joke.com/chat See all of you in 24.... On 11/29/03 3:06 AM, "Cliff and Kara Livingston" wrote: > http://www.killing-joke.com > > Hello Here's a word from Raven Jaz & Geordie. > > Be in Killing-Joke.com Chatroom 9:13 New Zealand time ! From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 11:09:40 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:09:40 -0900 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom References: Message-ID: <00d401c3b669$4cd42a20$e38d70d1@antifrz> I believe it will be 8:13 am tomarrow UK time Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Barathy" To: Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 2:06 AM Subject: RE: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom > OOoooo - better think of some sensible questions..... (doh!) > Does that mean it will be 21.13 tonight in the UK? I'm confused. > > Bob > > > > UGH... that's like 3:13AM here. Will be there...for sure. Cliff, you still > have Mod/Admin privilege's on the chat right? > > URL:: http://killing-joke.com/chat > > See all of you in 24.... > > On 11/29/03 3:06 AM, "Cliff and Kara Livingston" wrote: > > > http://www.killing-joke.com > > > > Hello Here's a word from Raven Jaz & Geordie. > > > > Be in Killing-Joke.com Chatroom 9:13 New Zealand time ! > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 13:20:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:20:10 -0600 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It will be 9:13PM NZ time...Get a map...figure the difference...get to chat at the right time....or just stay in there all day... On 11/29/03 5:06 AM, "Bob Barathy" wrote: > OOoooo - better think of some sensible questions..... (doh!) > Does that mean it will be 21.13 tonight in the UK? I'm confused. > > Bob > > > > UGH... that's like 3:13AM here. Will be there...for sure. Cliff, you still > have Mod/Admin privilege's on the chat right? > > URL:: http://killing-joke.com/chat > > See all of you in 24.... > > On 11/29/03 3:06 AM, "Cliff and Kara Livingston" wrote: > >> http://www.killing-joke.com >> >> Hello Here's a word from Raven Jaz & Geordie. >> >> Be in Killing-Joke.com Chatroom 9:13 New Zealand time ! > > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > > KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 14:01:10 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:01:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031129150042.M95763-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Jester wrote: > It will be 9:13PM NZ time...Get a map...figure the difference...get to chat > at the right time....or just stay in there all day... CET + 12 b From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 14:07:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (death wish) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:07:50 +0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomarrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.com Chatroom Message-ID: Right, this will give you the current time in Wellington, NZ. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=264 At the moment, it's 9am in Toronto, and 3am in Wellington the next day, so it looks like us Eastcoasters will be up at 3am... And I'm in transit today! See you all in 18 hours - now what was my password.....? Cliff, Help! T. >From: "Cliff and Kara Livingston" >Reply-To: gathering@misera.net >To: >CC: "Jester" >Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomarrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.com >Chatroom >Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:06:40 -0900 > >http://www.killing-joke.com > >Hello Here's a word from Raven Jaz & Geordie. > >Be in Killing-Joke.com Chatroom 9:13 New Zealand time ! > > > >04:11:41 depraven enters this room > >04:12:49 [depraven] hello bastards,r a v e n,jaz & geordie here, > >04:13:42 [depraven] today the 3 ov us have been walking in paradise >collecting the goods ofthe land. freshly hunted wild boar,green lipped >snapper ,muscles & pipis > >04:14:28 [depraven] and a veritable feast 2 follow.recharging the batteries > >04:14:47 [depraven] here in EdEn > >04:15:08 [depraven] for the 'hidden' kj work ov the next 3 mnths > >04:16:04 [depraven] we are prepared to discuss the nature of some ov this >work 24 hours from now at 9:13 NZ time > >04:16:56 [depraven] don't b late gatherers > >04:17:29 [depraven] did we dream it? respect to cliff-edge/face > >04:17:54 depraven exits from this room _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 14:22:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bob Barathy) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:22:45 -0000 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom In-Reply-To: <00d401c3b669$4cd42a20$e38d70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: Thanks for the clarification Cliff - never been in the chat room before. Is it spooky? Bob I believe it will be 8:13 am tomarrow UK time Cliff http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 14:27:53 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:27:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031129152734.E95763-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Bob Barathy wrote: > Thanks for the clarification Cliff - never been in the chat room before. Is > it spooky? Just be glad it doesn't have video, enough said. b From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 20:06:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Antoni Adamiak) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:06:51 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT Fw: Kill All Hippies November update Message-ID: <007b01c3b6b4$54eb9680$145c08c3@mydomain.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C3B6B4.5409C200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Obviously we are planning to have a London Gathering at The Churchill Arms next Saturday evening so I doubt anyone would be in a position to see Queen Adreena (on at 11pm) but with the associated flyer ( http://home.clara.net/antoni/kill.jpg ) you can see that Jagz Kooner is indeed a real person and not just some Jaz Coleman/Andy Gill alter-ego as someone suggested ... Regards, Antoni * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ * ----- Original Message ----- From: "angel" To: "...queenadreena 9" Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 7:42 AM Subject: FW: Kill All Hippies November update Hello people I thought you might be interested in this if you're in London next weekend...its free and its short notice. I¹ll be sending a Oproper¹ mail-out soon. Love and passion.x Hi Everyone, Hope you are all well and ready for Kill All Hippies Xmas Bash! Please do this now!.....send this eflyer with the FREE guest listing link ; www.leylinepromotions.com/kahxmas to every mother f****r you know personally inviting them down! Those webmasters out there you can use this image, the link and some of the press release. For those wanting physical flyers I have a box at the Fortress Studios that you can help yourself to [those of you not playing why don't you come down tomorrow night?]. Failing that I can post them out on Monday, inshala they'll be with you on Tuesday. Let me know. Running Order 6th December 9pm-10pm Syrinx 10-10.30- Gear 10.30-11pm JA 11pm-11.40-Queenadreena 11.40-1am JA 1am-3am Eddy + Jagz Room 2 No Wave [Milo and Graeme] Queens Of Noize FREE XMAS BASH!! Saturday December 6th at The Fortress Studios 8.30pm-3am [34-38 Provost Street N1 7NG] London's now infamous monthly rock night Kill All Hippies celebrates it's first festive bash with an explosive Xmas cracker all for the price of a train ticket, uh? Because we are inviting all you absolutely FREE! Just log on to guest-listing site www.leylinepromotions.com/kahxmas wait for the confirmation and see you on the night! Rockin up a snow storm for December are the awesome Queenadreena, support from new wonder punk outfit Gear plus rock institutions No Wave and Queens Of Noize hosting Room 2. Resident 'curators' Jagz Kooner and Xfm's Eddy Temple-Morris once again join forces with support from the irrepressible Jeff Automatic and special guest Mavs from Trash. Put that in your stocking! 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<200311292020.hATKKqcw016042@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> I won't be able to swing this, but PLEASE send my regards.....and ask practical questions (i.e. don't waste time asking what their favorite type of fishing lure is). New album? New tour? Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Jester >To: >Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom >Date: Sat, Nov 29, 2003, 8:20 AM > >It will be 9:13PM NZ time...Get a map...figure the difference...get to chat >at the right time....or just stay in there all day... > >On 11/29/03 5:06 AM, "Bob Barathy" wrote: > >> OOoooo - better think of some sensible questions..... (doh!) >> Does that mean it will be 21.13 tonight in the UK? I'm confused. >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> UGH... that's like 3:13AM here. Will be there...for sure. Cliff, you still >> have Mod/Admin privilege's on the chat right? >> >> URL:: http://killing-joke.com/chat >> >> See all of you in 24.... >> >> On 11/29/03 3:06 AM, "Cliff and Kara Livingston" wrote: >> >>> http://www.killing-joke.com >>> >>> Hello Here's a word from Raven Jaz & Geordie. >>> >>> Be in Killing-Joke.com Chatroom 9:13 New Zealand time ! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gathering mailing list >> Gathering@misera.net >> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering >> >> > >KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! >OCCISIO LOCATIO > >THE WEBMASTER, >JESTER >WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM >WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > >There is no place like 127.0.0.1 > >"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or >Gates?" > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 20:42:50 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mark Kolmar) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:42:50 -0600 Subject: [kj] OT Fw: Kill All Hippies November update In-Reply-To: <007b01c3b6b4$54eb9680$145c08c3@mydomain.com> References: <007b01c3b6b4$54eb9680$145c08c3@mydomain.com> Message-ID: <3FC904CA.30306@burningrome.com> BTW, is it just me, or was the "Seeing Red" single pretty useless and a missed opportunity? I like what Jagz Kooner has done with Primal Scream, but oddly those mixes of "Seeing Red" did not work for me. --Mark Antoni Adamiak wrote: > Obviously we are planning to have a London Gathering at The Churchill Arms > next Saturday evening so I doubt anyone would be in a position to see Queen > Adreena (on at 11pm) but with the associated flyer ( > http://home.clara.net/antoni/kill.jpg ) you can see that Jagz Kooner is > indeed a real person and not just some Jaz Coleman/Andy Gill alter-ego as > someone suggested ... From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 21:21:27 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:21:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] "a very dubious character" In-Reply-To: <20031128151443.P196-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: <20031129212127.92336.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bo Krogsgaard wrote: > Jimmy Page bought Crowley's old house. > b And didn't Jaz outbid him at auction over some Crowley writings? saul ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 21:26:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Stephen Robinson) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:26:49 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT Fw: Kill All Hippies November update References: <007b01c3b6b4$54eb9680$145c08c3@mydomain.com> <3FC904CA.30306@burningrome.com> Message-ID: <001301c3b6bf$80ef48c0$44e587d9@mycomputer> Was it released? Missed that one! > BTW, is it just me, or was the "Seeing Red" single pretty useless and a > missed opportunity? I like what Jagz Kooner has done with Primal > Scream, but oddly those mixes of "Seeing Red" did not work for me. > > --Mark > > Antoni Adamiak wrote: > > Obviously we are planning to have a London Gathering at The Churchill Arms > > next Saturday evening so I doubt anyone would be in a position to see Queen > > Adreena (on at 11pm) but with the associated flyer ( > > http://home.clara.net/antoni/kill.jpg ) you can see that Jagz Kooner is > > indeed a real person and not just some Jaz Coleman/Andy Gill alter-ego as > > someone suggested ... > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 21:46:49 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:46:49 -0600 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom In-Reply-To: <200311292020.hATKKqcw016042@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: On 11/29/03 2:20 PM, "Alex Smith" wrote: > > I won't be able to swing this, but PLEASE send my regards.....and ask > practical questions (i.e. don't waste time asking what their favorite type > of fishing lure is). Actually, I was going to ask what method of lure stripping they use, or if they look down upon that sort of thing. Next, I was going to ask about Geordie's upstream nymphing abilities. I was also always curious as to if Geordie uses an otter or madona to dislodge trapped lures, and why. Personally, I use an otter. Fishing is very important to me, the webmaster :-) KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 22:12:00 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:12:00 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031129231129.V12529-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Jester wrote: > Fishing is very important to me, the webmaster :-) Nudge nudge wink wink know what i'm saying? b From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 23:06:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (sade1) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:06:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kj] Ozz pics from Syd Message-ID: <20031129230605.40804.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> I'm sorry i don't remember exactly who posted the Sydney show pictures, but just wanted to say they are really good. I especially like the last two, 9 and 10. It's a different perspective than most other pics, kinda 'dramatic.' Anyway, thankx for those. http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/killing_joke/lst?.dir=/Sydney+-+November+2003&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/ Saul P.S. wouldnt Sunday Zealand Time actually be Saturday US time? ===== WHO WOULD JESUS BOMB? "Get me out of the here and now I want to be another here, another..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 23:19:32 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (peter.west410) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:19:32 -0000 Subject: [kj] what time in England Message-ID: <001301c3b6cf$3fcef880$c76cff3e@yourby3nr533ht> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3B6CF.3EEEF8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Surely its a 13 hour time difference making it 21 13 in UK ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3B6CF.3EEEF8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Surely its a 13 hour time difference = making=20 it 21 13 in UK
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3B6CF.3EEEF8C0-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 23:25:15 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Mik Raven) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:25:15 -0000 Subject: [kj] what time in England References: <001301c3b6cf$3fcef880$c76cff3e@yourby3nr533ht> Message-ID: <015c01c3b6d0$0b6929c0$0200a8c0@Paulas> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C3B6D0.0B047480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe they are 13 hours ahead of us in the UK, making it 8:15am - an = early Sunday morning for the UK gatherers! Someone, please correct me if I am wrong. Mik ----- Original Message -----=20 From: peter.west410=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 11:19 PM Subject: [kj] what time in England Surely its a 13 hour time difference making it 21 13 in UK ------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C3B6D0.0B047480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I believe they are 13 hours ahead of us = in the UK,=20 making it 8:15am - an early Sunday morning for the UK = gatherers!
 
Someone, please correct me if I am=20 wrong.
 
Mik
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 peter.west410
Sent: Saturday, November 29, = 2003 11:19=20 PM
Subject: [kj] what time in = England

Surely its a 13 hour time difference = making=20 it 21 13 in UK
------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C3B6D0.0B047480-- From gathering@misera.net Sat Nov 29 23:39:16 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:39:16 -0600 Subject: [kj] KILLING JOKE CHAT INFO In-Reply-To: <015c01c3b6d0$0b6929c0$0200a8c0@Paulas> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3152972357_6770452 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Ok muggs... For those that have NOT registered for the chat room, do so NOW. About an hour or two before the Joke chat, I will shut that function down to speed up the server. I expect a few people on tonight, and the more using the chat, the slower it gets. I have just gotten confirmation that the chat will begin at about 9:00PM or a little after, and that is New Zealand time. Currently it is about 3:30AM GMT. In Texas it is 5:30PM CST New Zealand is currently 12:30PM UK Time is 11:30PM IF you need to find your time zone to NZ time zone, please see http://www.worldtimeserver.com/ I also would suggest logging on about 30 minutes to an hour prior to the beginning of the chat. This keeps things from bogging down, while the band is trying to log on. As a courtesy to them, log in early. Other than that, have a blast with this... Glad to have the Joke using our site, and feel privileged to host this thing. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" --B_3152972357_6770452 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable KILLING JOKE CHAT INFO Ok muggs...

For those that have NOT registered for the chat room, do so NOW. About an h= our or two before the Joke chat, I will shut that function down to speed up = the server. I expect a few people on tonight, and the more using the chat, t= he slower it gets.

I have just gotten confirmation that the chat will begin at about 9:00PM or= a little after, and that is New Zealand time.

Currently it is about 3:30AM GMT.

In Texas it is 5:30PM CST

New Zealand is currently 12:30PM

UK Time is 11:30PM

IF you need to find your time zone to NZ time zone, please see

http://www.worldtimese= rver.com/

I also would suggest logging on about 30 minutes to an hour prior to the be= ginning of the chat. This keeps things from bogging down, while the band is = trying to log on. As a courtesy to them, log in early.

Other than that, have a blast with this...

Glad to have the Joke using our site, and feel privileged to host this thin= g.



KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

There is no place like 127.0.0.1

"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows o= r Gates?"
 --B_3152972357_6770452-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 00:15:23 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Amy Moseley Rupp) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:15:23 -0600 (CST) Subject: [kj] KILLING JOKE CHAT INFO In-Reply-To: from "Jester" at Nov 29, 2003 05:39:16 PM Message-ID: <200311300015.hAU0FNTP028575@basil.jkm.net> > Currently it is about 3:30AM GMT. The Greenwich Meridian runs through England. Zulu and UTC = GMT. During "standard" time (British Standard Time vs. British Summer Time) British time and GMT are equivalent; during the summer, British time goes one hour ahead, just as it does in most of the US and Canada. 21.13 in NZ is: 03.13 in NYC/Eastern 02.13 in Chicago/Texas/Central 01.13 in Denver/Phoenix/Mountain 00.13 in LA/SF/Pacific 08.13 in the UK 09.13 in Czechoslovakia 10.13 in South Africa 23.13 in Alaska From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 00:30:30 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:30:30 -0900 Subject: [kj] KILLING JOKE CHAT INFO References: <200311300015.hAU0FNTP028575@basil.jkm.net> Message-ID: <00c401c3b6d9$3bf0c860$e98e70d1@antifrz> Hey that's great,thanks Amy.....Raven and Jaz we're in the chat earlier today,and want you all to be there and be counted ! ! ! See ya in the chatroom for a very special word from KJ's Raven,Jaz & Geordie. Cheers Cliff http://www.killing-joke.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Moseley Rupp" To: Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [kj] KILLING JOKE CHAT INFO > > Currently it is about 3:30AM GMT. > > The Greenwich Meridian runs through England. Zulu and UTC = GMT. > During "standard" time (British Standard Time vs. British Summer Time) > British time and GMT are equivalent; during the summer, British time > goes one hour ahead, just as it does in most of the US and Canada. > > 21.13 in NZ is: > > 03.13 in NYC/Eastern > 02.13 in Chicago/Texas/Central > 01.13 in Denver/Phoenix/Mountain > 00.13 in LA/SF/Pacific > > 08.13 in the UK > 09.13 in Czechoslovakia > 10.13 in South Africa > > 23.13 in Alaska > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 04:56:08 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 05:56:08 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] KILLING JOKE CHAT NOW In-Reply-To: <00c401c3b6d9$3bf0c860$e98e70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: <20031130055416.T26184-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Cliff and Kara Livingston wrote: > See ya in the chatroom for a very special word from KJ's Raven,Jaz & > Geordie. Well, some of us late/early folks are there now, how about you get your Right Royal Arses in there and have fun during The Wait? b From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 06:13:13 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:13:13 -0600 Subject: [kj] KILLING JOKE CHAT COUNTDOWN In-Reply-To: <20031130055416.T26184-100000@mother.brap.dk> Message-ID: Just 2 more hours till chat with the Joke... Get yer asses to the room. http://killing-joke.com/chat KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 07:02:46 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:02:46 -0600 Subject: [kj] KILLING JOKE CHAT HAS STARTED!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 11/30/03 12:13 AM, "Jester" wrote: Raven in CHAT NOW!!!! http://killing-joke.com/chat KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 07:22:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Cliff and Kara Livingston) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:22:22 -0900 Subject: [kj] 1 Hour till Jaz Geordie & Raven Chat ! ! ! Message-ID: <003801c3b712$b2e43360$678f70d1@antifrz> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C3B6C7.423320E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.killing-joke.com 1 Hour till Raven,Geordie & Jaz in K-J.Com Chatroom Get yer arse in there now ! ! ! ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C3B6C7.423320E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
http://www.killing-joke.com
 
1 Hour till Raven,Geordie & Jaz in = K-J.Com=20 Chatroom
Get yer arse in there now ! ! = !
 
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C3B6C7.423320E0-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 07:50:03 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:50:03 -0600 Subject: [kj] 1 Hour till Jaz Geordie & Raven Chat ! ! ! In-Reply-To: <003801c3b712$b2e43360$678f70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: On 11/30/03 1:22 AM, "Cliff and Kara Livingston" wrote: http://www.killing-joke.com/chat Get to chat soon. 15 - 30 minutes, and counting. All the questions you ask on the gathering have a chance of getting answered from the horses mouth...so get yer ass there..NOW KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 08:10:05 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:10:05 -0600 Subject: [kj] 1 Hour till Jaz Geordie & Raven Chat ! ! ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 11/30/03 1:50 AM, "Jester" wrote: http://www.killing-joke.com/chat REPENT! The end is fucking nigh KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 11:35:07 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 05:35:07 -0600 Subject: [kj] The Chat In-Reply-To: <003801c3b712$b2e43360$678f70d1@antifrz> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3153015308_9360640 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit We will have the transcript up after I get some sleep. Thanks to all that stayed up late, or got up early for this. Hopefully, we will have many more of these to come. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" --B_3153015308_9360640 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The Chat We will have the transc= ript up after I get some sleep.

Thanks to all that stayed up late, or got up early for this. Hopefully, we = will have many more of these to come.

KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

There is no place like 127.0.0.1

"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows o= r Gates?"
 --B_3153015308_9360640-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 11:43:35 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Dirk Kingerske) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:35 +0100 Subject: [kj] striknien dc - complications Message-ID:



last friday i heard a pretty good cover of complications by striknien dc.... does anyone of you have this track as an mp3????
 
dirt

Was tun bei Spam? Schutz, Maßnahmen und alle Infos bei lästigen E-Mails! Hier klicken From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 12:29:48 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bob Barathy) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:29:48 -0000 Subject: [kj] OT Fw: Kill All Hippies November update In-Reply-To: <001301c3b6bf$80ef48c0$44e587d9@mycomputer> Message-ID: Was it released? Missed that one! CD was released on 6th Oct (same day as Manchester gig) as a limited edition! Still is the air after the storm. Bob From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 17:05:02 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:05:02 -0500 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom Message-ID: <200311301705.hAUH5Vcw029342@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> "Geordie's upstream nymphing abilities" You can go right to jail in some States for this activity. Alex in NYC ---------- >From: Jester >To: >Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke/Chat live tomorrow 9:13 NZ time in K-J.comChatroom >Date: Sat, Nov 29, 2003, 4:46 PM > >On 11/29/03 2:20 PM, "Alex Smith" wrote: > >> >> I won't be able to swing this, but PLEASE send my regards.....and ask >> practical questions (i.e. don't waste time asking what their favorite type >> of fishing lure is). > >Actually, I was going to ask what method of lure stripping they use, or if >they look down upon that sort of thing. Next, I was going to ask about >Geordie's upstream nymphing abilities. I was also always curious as to if >Geordie uses an otter or madona to dislodge trapped lures, and why. >Personally, I use an otter. > >Fishing is very important to me, the webmaster :-) > >KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! >OCCISIO LOCATIO > >THE WEBMASTER, >JESTER >WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM >WWW.PARALLAX1.COM > >There is no place like 127.0.0.1 > >"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or >Gates?" > >_______________________________________________ >Gathering mailing list >Gathering@misera.net >http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 17:07:41 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:07:41 -0500 Subject: [kj] The Chat Message-ID: <200311301707.hAUH5Vd0029342@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3153038861_103986_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit "We will have the transcript up after I get some sleep. " Cheers, thanks, Jester! I do hope there weren't too many fishing questions. Alex in NYC....who almost lost an eye fly-fishing in Montana ---------- From: Jester To: Subject: [kj] The Chat Date: Sun, Nov 30, 2003, 6:35 AM We will have the transcript up after I get some sleep. Thanks to all that stayed up late, or got up early for this. Hopefully, we will have many more of these to come. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" --MS_Mac_OE_3153038861_103986_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] The Chat
"We will have the transcript up after I get some sleep. "

Cheers, thanks, Jester! I do hope there weren't too many fishing questions.=

Alex in NYC....who almost lost an eye fly-fishing in Montana



----------
From: Jester <webmaster@killing-joke.com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: [kj] The Chat
Date: Sun, Nov 30, 2003, 6:35 AM


We will have the transcript up after I get some sleep.

Thanks to all that stayed up late, or got up early for this. Hopefully, we = will have many more of these to come.

KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

There is no place like 127.0.0.1

"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows o= r Gates?"

--MS_Mac_OE_3153038861_103986_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 18:35:36 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:35:36 -0600 Subject: [kj] The Chat In-Reply-To: <200311301707.hAUH5Vd0029342@nycsmtp4out-eri0.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3153040538_10828391 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 11/30/03 11:07 AM, "Alex Smith" wrote: > > "We will have the transcript up after I get some sleep. " > > Cheers, thanks, Jester! I do hope there weren't too many fishing questions. > > Alex in NYC....who almost lost an eye fly-fishing in Montana > > > Well, you know, as usual, Geordie said not a thing..so no fishing. But I did ask Jaz about Thelema, the Muslim faith, and the freemasons...along with some other things. Getting to work on it all in a few minutes...and will post it a bit later today... KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" --B_3153040538_10828391 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] The Chat On 11/30/03 11:07 AM, &= quot;Alex Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:


"We will have the transcript up after I get some sleep. "

Cheers, thanks, Jester! I do hope there weren't too many fishing questions.=

Alex in NYC....who almost lost an eye fly-fishing in Montana



Well, you know, as usual, Geordie said not a thing..so no fishing. But I= did ask Jaz about Thelema, the Muslim faith, and the freemasons...along wit= h some other things. Getting to work on it all in a few minutes...and will p= ost it a bit later today...

KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

There is no place like 127.0.0.1

"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows o= r Gates?"
 --B_3153040538_10828391-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 21:22:31 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Jester) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:22:31 -0600 Subject: [kj] The Chat Transcript In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3153050552_11476369 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Chat Transcript is up. It is edited, to just carry the important stuff, and you get away from the one banishment we had to do...but now my eyes are crossed. I hope nothing is formatted wrong, so that you CANT read it right. Let me know if there is something wrong with formatting, and I will fix it tomorrow. I need a break from all this the rest of the day... Overall, last night went well....but as usual, one fucking ass hole gets mad and kind of fucks the good mood I was in, up...I fucking love hate mail and shit...the ungrateful, manner-less people can suck the shit right out a my corn hole...fuck them!!!! Anyway, got to http://killing-joke.com/index1.html and follow the links. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" --B_3153050552_11476369 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The Chat Transcript Chat Transcript is up. = It is edited, to just carry the important stuff, and you get away from the o= ne banishment we had to do...but now my eyes are crossed. I hope nothing is = formatted wrong, so that you CANT read it right. Let me know if there is som= ething wrong with formatting, and I will fix it tomorrow. I need a break fro= m all this the rest of the day...

Overall, last night went well....but as usual, one fucking ass hole gets ma= d and kind of fucks the good mood I was in, up...I fucking love hate mail an= d shit...the ungrateful, manner-less people can suck the shit right out a my= corn hole...fuck them!!!!


Anyway, got to http://killing= -joke.com/index1.html and follow the links.


KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

There is no place like 127.0.0.1

"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows o= r Gates?" --B_3153050552_11476369-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 21:44:21 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:44:21 EST Subject: [KJ] Ultimate version of Camden show Message-ID: <14c.278846ef.2cfbbeb5@aol.com> --part1_14c.278846ef.2cfbbeb5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What a great concert! I'm shaken! I was able to convert the songs using Winzip and listen to them, but I cannot get them to burn to a cd. Any ideas on how or if this can be done? Thanks for the help! --part1_14c.278846ef.2cfbbeb5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What a great concert! I'm shaken! I was able to conver= t the songs using Winzip and listen to them, but I cannot get them to burn t= o a cd. Any ideas on how or if this can be done? Thanks for the help!= --part1_14c.278846ef.2cfbbeb5_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 22:34:45 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Alex Smith) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:34:45 -0500 Subject: [kj] The Chat Transcript Message-ID: <200311302235.hAUMZEgt022730@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3153058485_47612_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Nicely done, nicely done.....thanks for posting that. Those Galleries are certainly an interesting concept. Anyway, cheers for that. Alex in NYC.... ---------- From: Jester To: Subject: [kj] The Chat Transcript Date: Sun, Nov 30, 2003, 4:22 PM Chat Transcript is up. It is edited, to just carry the important stuff, and you get away from the one banishment we had to do...but now my eyes are crossed. I hope nothing is formatted wrong, so that you CANT read it right. Let me know if there is something wrong with formatting, and I will fix it tomorrow. I need a break from all this the rest of the day... Overall, last night went well....but as usual, one fucking ass hole gets mad and kind of fucks the good mood I was in, up...I fucking love hate mail and shit...the ungrateful, manner-less people can suck the shit right out a my corn hole...fuck them!!!! Anyway, got to http://killing-joke.com/index1.html and follow the links. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR! OCCISIO LOCATIO THE WEBMASTER, JESTER WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows or Gates?" --MS_Mac_OE_3153058485_47612_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [kj] The Chat Transcript
Nicely done, nicely done.....thanks for posting that. Those Galleries are c= ertainly an interesting concept.

Anyway, cheers for that.

Alex in NYC....


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From: Jester <webmaster@killing-joke.com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Subject: [kj] The Chat Transcript
Date: Sun, Nov 30, 2003, 4:22 PM


Chat Transcript is up. It is edited, to just carry the importan= t stuff, and you get away from the one banishment we had to do...but now my = eyes are crossed. I hope nothing is formatted wrong, so that you CANT read i= t right. Let me know if there is something wrong with formatting, and I will= fix it tomorrow. I need a break from all this the rest of the day...

Overall, last night went well....but as usual, one fucking ass hole gets ma= d and kind of fucks the good mood I was in, up...I fucking love hate mail an= d shit...the ungrateful, manner-less people can suck the shit right out a my= corn hole...fuck them!!!!


Anyway, got to http://killing-joke.com/index1.html= <http://killing-joke.com/index1.html= >  and follow the links.


KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER,
JESTER
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM

There is no place like 127.0.0.1

"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows o= r Gates?"
--MS_Mac_OE_3153058485_47612_MIME_Part-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 22:49:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (MIchael) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:49:22 -0800 Subject: [kj] The Chat Transcript References: Message-ID: <000c01c3b794$324a5180$abb19b0c@dragonflke3gr5> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B751.2403F920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Chat TranscriptExcellent work. I could keep awake for the whole chat = so thanks for the hard work.=20 Cheers Michael www.electric-jesus.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jester=20 To: gathering@misera.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: [kj] The Chat Transcript Chat Transcript is up. It is edited, to just carry the important = stuff, and you get away from the one banishment we had to do...but now = my eyes are crossed. I hope nothing is formatted wrong, so that you CANT = read it right. Let me know if there is something wrong with formatting, = and I will fix it tomorrow. I need a break from all this the rest of the = day... Overall, last night went well....but as usual, one fucking ass hole = gets mad and kind of fucks the good mood I was in, up...I fucking love = hate mail and shit...the ungrateful, manner-less people can suck the = shit right out a my corn hole...fuck them!!!! Anyway, got to http://killing-joke.com/index1.html and follow the = links. KEEPING THE FIRE ALIVE WITH HONOUR!=20 OCCISIO LOCATIO=20 THE WEBMASTER,=20 JESTER=20 WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM WWW.PARALLAX1.COM=20 There is no place like 127.0.0.1 "In a world without walls or fences, what use do we have for Windows = or Gates?" ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B751.2403F920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Chat Transcript
Excellent work. I could keep awake for = the whole=20 chat so thanks for the hard work.
 
Cheers
 
Michael
www.electric-jesus.com
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jester
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 = 1:22=20 PM
Subject: [kj] The Chat = Transcript

Chat=20 Transcript is up. It is edited, to just carry the important stuff, and = you get=20 away from the one banishment we had to do...but now my eyes are = crossed. I=20 hope nothing is formatted wrong, so that you CANT read it right. Let = me know=20 if there is something wrong with formatting, and I will fix it = tomorrow. I=20 need a break from all this the rest of the day...

Overall, last = night=20 went well....but as usual, one fucking ass hole gets mad and kind of = fucks the=20 good mood I was in, up...I fucking love hate mail and shit...the = ungrateful,=20 manner-less people can suck the shit right out a my corn hole...fuck=20 them!!!!


Anyway, got to http://killing-joke.com/inde= x1.html=20 and follow the links.


KEEPING THE FIRE=20 ALIVE WITH HONOUR!
OCCISIO LOCATIO

THE WEBMASTER, =
JESTER=20
WWW.KILLING-JOKE.COM
WWW.PARALLAX1.COM =

There is = no place like=20 127.0.0.1

"In a world without walls or fences, what use do we = have for=20 Windows or Gates?"
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3B751.2403F920-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 22:52:59 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (gathering@misera.net) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:52:59 EST Subject: [kj] The Chat Message-ID: <15d.28c78e31.2cfbcecb@aol.com> --part1_15d.28c78e31.2cfbcecb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the transcript , now have it just shame I missed it all , still good to know all the events that are forthcoming in December and 2004. Deadnomad1 --part1_15d.28c78e31.2cfbcecb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the transcript , now have it just shame I m= issed it all , still good to know all the events that are forthcoming in Dec= ember and 2004.

Deadnomad1

 --part1_15d.28c78e31.2cfbcecb_boundary-- From gathering@misera.net Sun Nov 30 23:01:51 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Bo Krogsgaard) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:01:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: [kj] The Chat Transcript In-Reply-To: <200311302235.hAUMZEgt022730@nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20031201000126.R61988-100000@mother.brap.dk> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Alex Smith wrote: > Nicely done, nicely done.....thanks for posting that. Those Galleries are > certainly an interesting concept. Gallery is a fucking sweet piece of software. b From gathering@misera.net Mon Nov 17 18:12:22 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (wehavejoy) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:12:22 -0000 Subject: [kj] final answers References: Message-ID: <000601c3ad36$5899a790$d27d2352@nonedo4ir6vr4l> >When I get the 31 bus tomorrow am I travelling north or south? I'd chuck a vote in for The Enterprise (the North option) . . . personal preferance really . . Marc (at home) ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike coles" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: [kj] final answers > OK gatherers, final answers. > When I get the 31 bus tomorrow am I travelling north or south? > cheers, > colesy > > -- > Check out our merchandise at http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk > ... and you can find more Killing Joke at http://www.studio-c.co.uk > _______________________________________________ > Gathering mailing list > Gathering@misera.net > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering > From gathering@misera.net Thu Nov 20 07:49:24 2003 From: gathering@misera.net (Tom Foolery) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:49:24 +0000 Subject: [kj] Siouxsie & KJ Message-ID:




>Though I thought the reunion show last year was depressing and dire, I'm
>still a massive fan of the Banshees. Not sure what the rest of the Gathering

>feels about them. What say you?

Well I've shelled out for the book as the old trout's christmas prezzie.

Believe it or not I'm quite partial to some of their stuff, particularly The Scream and early singles- "Mirage" is great at 45rpm- and Geordie rated the guitar very highly. They did slip into self-parody quite early on and the obsession with White Album Beatles doesn't exactly endear them either. Always good fun on Top of the Pops though...

luv from

Stimro (who was minding his business when his string snapped)

"Mummy, what's a Killing Joke?"

"A Whoopee cushion packed with Semtex"


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