[kj] interview with a CIA 'vampire'

[Jel]

unless i was in the room with all this people at the time the conversations
were had i would believe 100% any of it. Words missed out? Are these real
conversations and where ? How? did you/people come across them.

 Hindsight and manipulation for propaganda....whatever....whatever....i have
my own beliefs and as much as i feel Bush is a cunt, i dont really believe
he would let over 3,000 people die for a war on Iraq. In fact its more now
isnt it..more American troops and yet more British...still at least ours
were killed by the enemy this time..eh...lol.

I can see a better place.....no Dictators...Or bullies!
----- Original Message -----
From: sade1 <saulomar1@yahoo.com>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] interview with a CIA 'vampire'


> Here's ONE take - - -
>
> --- Jel <jelbod@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >  I honestly dont believe that the American government were aware of a
total information target,
> > nobody could let that happen with all those lives to be lost.
Information
> > about a 'possible' attack yes, but come on, this is the U.S of A
>
>  From Truth Out --- http://truthout.org/docs_03/062603B.shtml
> Interview: 27-Year CIA Veteran by Will Pitt
>             t r u t h o u t | Interview
>             Thursday 26 June 2003
> (highlights)
> "[Will] PITT:      There was the August 6 2001 briefing...
>  [Ray] McGovern**: On August 6[2001], the title of the briefing was, "Bin
Laden Determined to
> Strike in the US," and that briefing had the word "Hijacking" in it.
That's all I know about it,
> but that's quite enough. In September, Bush had to make a decision. Is it
feasible to let go of
> Tenet, whose agency flubbed the dub on this one? And the answer was no,
because Tenet knows too
> much about what Bush knew, and Bush didn't know what to do about it.
That's the bottom line .
> Bush was well-briefed.[OK, he's a briefs guy] .he was told all these
things. He didn't even have
> the presence of mind to convene his National Security Council and say, "OK
guys,.what are we going
> to do about it?" He just went off to chop wood."
>
> "...George Bush had...to keep George Tenet on as [CIA] Director, because
George Tenet had warned
> Bush repeatedly, for months and months before September 11, that something
very bad was about to
> happen."
>
> **Ray McGovern was a CIA analyst for 27 years, serving seven Presidents.
He is on the Steering
> Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity. He is co-director
of the Servant
> Leadership School, an outreach ministry in the inner city of Washington.
>
> "...if we're going to have this war, let's do the al Qaeda-Iraq
connection. That's the traumatic
> one. 9/11 is still a traumatic thing for most Americans. Let's do that."
>
> General Wesley Clark.mentioned that he was called at his home by the White
House on September 11
> and told to make the connection between those terrorist attacks and
Saddam.on the day of the
> attacks, told to say that this was state-sponsored terrorism and there
must be a connection. . he
> said "Where's the evidence?"  there was no evidence, [so] he didn't say
what they wanted him to.
>
>  PITT: So what we have, essentially, is in the run-up to the war the
Secretary of State of the
> United States of America was cramming for a major exam like a freshman in
high school.
>   McG: Yes
> Rice and Cheney convening in CIA headquarters to sit around a table and
help with the
> analysis.give me a break!  That's antithetical to the whole ethic of
analysis.
>
> It's demonstrable that senior officials of this government, including the
Vice President, knew
> that it was a forgery in March of last year. It was used anyway to deceive
our Congressmen and
> Senators into voting for an unprovoked war. .We know he was told in early
March of last year that
> the documents were forgeries.
>
> http://truthout.org/docs_03/062603B.shtml
>
> --- Jel <jelbod@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
>  I honestly dont believe
> > that the American government were aware of a  total information target,
> > nobody could let that happen with all those lives to be lost.
Information
> > about a 'possible' attack yes, but come on, this is the U.S of A
>
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